Marc Lautenbach
Management
Sure. Let me take both of those if I might. So, within SendTech there were a couple of different factors that drove equipment sales. First of all, in the fourth quarter, there was a large government deal which we realized some of the revenue from in the fourth quarter. We'll realize more of the revenue from that deal in 2021. But that being said as Joe pointed out, the low and middle-end devices grew fairly substantially last year and that's because we had new value principally shipping that was embodied in those devices. So, the product was relatively new. So, you always get a little bit of an initial surcharge on revenue as you introduce new products. But I'm fairly confident that we've tapped into something that's a pretty important revenue source for us going forward. So, whether or not every quarter looks like the fourth quarter we'll see. But as Joe pointed out and I would reiterate, the decline of the core Mail market is now substantially being offset by shipping revenue in SendTech and I expect that dynamic to continue. As our rates to Wheeler we still think that's an important opportunity for the company. We have -- I'll defer to Joe or Adam, but $300 million or $400 million of deposits that we would like to put to work, we think those deposits are economically advantaged in terms of costs. And we think there's great opportunities to put that money to work in a way that drives incremental earnings. If you look at how our thinking has evolved, however, when this business started, we had envisioned it as principally a lease-based business. I would say, as our thinking has evolved, we've moved more to working capital loans for shipping, somewhat analogous to what we've done for the Mail market over the last several decades. The advantage of that is those loans, if you will, that working capital has a higher velocity to it, it is relatively reliable from a credit perspective. And it's accretive to our shipping businesses. The other advantage of it is, unlike when you're making loans where you take residual value risk, you don't take any residual value risk when you're providing working capital loans. So our rate and pace of putting those deposits to work will depend on economic conditions. But I'm as convinced now, as I was several years ago, it's a great economic opportunity. Just again to repeat, there's a customer base that we understand well from a credit perspective. We have economic advantage in terms of the funding source. And we've already gone through the expense of acquiring those clients. So as long as you stay in your installed base, as long as you stay within kind of capital that you can control, we bring structural advantages to the marketplace which I continue to think are very compelling.