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PAVmed Inc. (PAVM)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 13, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the PAVmed's Third Quarter 2025 Business Update Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press 0 for the operator. This call is being recorded on Thursday, November 13, 2025. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Matt Riley, PAVmed Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Matt Riley

Management

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for participating in today's business update call. Joining me today on the call are Dr. Lishan Aklog, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of PAVmed, along with Dennis McGrath, Chief Financial Officer of PAVmed. The press release announcing our business update and financial results is available on PAVmed's website. Please take a moment to read the disclaimers about forward-looking statements in the press release. The business update, press release, and the conference call all include forward-looking statements, and these forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from statements made. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are described in this disclaimer and our filings with the SEC. For a list and a description of these and other important risks and uncertainties that may affect future operations, see Part 1, Item 1A, entitled Risk Factors in PAVmed's Most Recent Annual Report Forms 10-Ks filed with the SEC, and any subsequent updates filed in the quarterly reports on Forms 10-Q and subsequent Forms 8-K. Except as required by law, PAVmed disclaims any intentions or obligations to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect changes in expectations or in events, conditions, or circumstances on which the expectations may be based, or that may affect the likelihood that actual results will differ from those contained in the forward-looking statement. I would now like to turn the call over to Dr. Lishan Aklog, Chairman and CEO of PAVmed.

Lishan Aklog

Management

Thank you, Matt, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our quarterly update call. I would like to thank our long-term shareholders for your ongoing support and commitment. Before we delve into our recent operational highlights, as I have in the last couple of calls, I want to just remind you that over the past now eighteen months, we've been taking some really critical steps to stabilize PAVmed's corporate structure and balance sheet. We did a restructuring of debt in the early part of this year. And we've been working on that. But there's still work to be done on that front. We have a couple of additional steps we think we're going to be able to consummate in the very near future, whereby following that, we think PAVmed will be fixed and we'll be back to the original proposition where PAVmed will be really well positioned to operate per our vision as a diversified commercial life sciences company. With multiple independently financed subsidiaries operating under a shared services model, it'll give us the opportunity to start building that portfolio beyond our two major main commercial subsidiaries right now. So, let me just talk about that briefly. I'll provide a brief overview of PAVmed's portfolio. PAVmed is a vehicle to deliver innovative medical technologies, and we continue to operate under a shared services model. And as our subsidiaries succeed, particularly Lucid, PAVmed should also succeed. So let me just start with Lucid. Lucid's obviously our main asset. It's a publicly traded diagnostic company. And it's on the cusp of a transformative milestone, particularly Medicare coverage. It continues to succeed at raising its own capital, including this past quarter. And in that, it has sufficient runway to accelerate its commercialization once Medicare coverage is secured. I'll talk more about Veris…

Dennis McGrath

Management

Thanks, Lishan, and good morning, everyone. Our summary financial results for the third quarter were reported in our press release that has been distributed. On the next three slides, I'll emphasize a few key highlights from the third quarter. But I encourage you to consider those remarks in the context of full disclosures covered in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q as filed with the SEC. As a couple of reminders, as our financials, particularly the income statement with year-over-year comparisons, will, this last quarter, illustrate periods before September 10, 2024, with Lucid's operating results being consolidated into the PAVmed results. Versus the presentation of the 2025 periods they are without Lucid's operating results being consolidated into the PAVmed financials. We do present some supplementary information in footnote four of the 10-Q that will help with some of those comparisons. So with regard to the balance sheet, you'll recall from our investor update call since this time last year that the company was engaged in a multistep to regain compliance with Nasdaq listing standard for minimum equity, which it did in February. And also position the company for longer-term financial stability. The two key components were deconsolidating Lucid from PAVmed consolidated finance statements and restructuring our debt whereby we exchanged about 80% of our outstanding debt for a new series C preferred equity. The slide reflects the balance sheets where the third quarter and second quarter of this year, both after deconsolidation which again occurred in 2024. So a couple of key things to point out each of these balance sheets. First, the cash burn rate of $900,000 for the third quarter reflects the various operating costs, including approximately $500,000 outside contractor development costs associated with the implantable device, which had been funded by the two Veris-related financings, namely $2.4…

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star followed by the one on your touchtone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the following process, please press the star followed by the two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any key. At this time, there are no questions. I will now turn the call over to Dr. Lishan Aklog. Please go ahead.

Lishan Aklog

Management

Great. Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining today. Let me just restate something that I stated earlier that PAVmed was founded to be an engine of innovation that's capable of ingesting groundbreaking technologies and advancing them. And although Lucid is really in a great position and Veris is progressing well, our ability to consummate this broader vision has been constrained by capital markets and structural challenges. It's taken a series of steps which Dennis has outlined over a period of time to address these. And we really feel like we are now poised to complete that work, we can reignite the broader vision and continue to pursue the next Lucid, the next Veris. And we really have some excellent prospects, some of which we've talked about, the Duke technology and others waiting in the wings for us to finally transition back to the original vision of PAVmed. We look forward to that, and we look forward to continually continuing to address those opportunities and finalize this restructuring that has put us in a position to expand those horizons. So with that, oh, actually, it looks like we have somebody back in the Q&A. Should we bring him in? Yeah. Let's go back to the operator. I believe we have one question around the Q&A that we'd like to address.

Operator

Operator

We do have one question. It does come from Anthony Vendetti from Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Anthony Vendetti

Management

Great. Thank you. Hi, Anthony. Good morning.

Dennis McGrath

Management

Hi, Dennis. Lishan, I was wondering if you could just talk about where you exactly are with the implantable monitor. Are there any other clinical steps necessary other than, you know, completing the OSU trials and so forth? Or...

Lishan Aklog

Management

Yeah. Yeah. Let me just jump in if that's okay, Anthony. So the development of the implantable, remember, the implantable is an implantable device that allows the physician to implant an intracardiac cardiac implantable cardiac monitor in conjunction with a port at the time of the beginning of therapy. Although we have part of our strategic partnership with OSU involves them being the first site and them doing the initial pilot work once the implantable is cleared. The development work actually is unrelated to our relationship with OSU. So we, with the financing that we secured earlier this year, we have relaunched the development that had been on pause when we were awaiting access to capital to do so. And that relaunch actually included us transitioning to a new development and manufacturing partner who has extensive experience with making such implantable devices such as stimulators and others. And so, we've transitioned. We've launched that product development work with this new partner, going extremely well. And, you know, there's a variety of just bread and butter engineering work that's required to get us to a final to complete that part of the development work and get us into a position to submit to FDA. You had mentioned, you had asked about the, I think, clinical trials. So one of the things that we have been doing was we've had an ongoing engagement with FDA over many, many meetings to establish first our preclinical requirements of animal studies that have been ongoing and will continue to be ongoing as part of this work. And that was already previously locked down. The final step, which I think we talked about in our last call, was to get a final sign-off from FDA on any clinical work we would need to do. Since the predicate, this is a 510(k). Since the predicate here is an existing implantable cardiac monitor, the clinical requirements were actually quite modest. And we did eventually work with the FDA to establish that the only clinical data we'd need is what we refer to as a skin study. So instead of having to implant the device to perform this study, we can actually just stick it on the skin and measure its ability to detect primarily the cardiac rhythm. And show that it's equivalent to the predicate. So it's a pretty straightforward simple, small study that'll be required as part of that. That's not the rate-limiting factor. Frankly, the rate-limiting factor between us and a submission is all of the development work, the traditional biocompatibility, packaging, things like that, that are things that typically use up the clock.

Anthony Vendetti

Management

Okay. Great. So this should, it sounds like with the predicate, it should be, I'm not saying anything with the FDA's routine, but should be relatively routine versus if you were using a version device.

Lishan Aklog

Management

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it would, I think it's fair to say that the path is very clear. The requirements are clear. It's just we just need to execute on it. I think there's very little uncertainty as to what's required. There's really good guidance from FDA on what they expect for these kinds of devices. So we have a very carefully tuned regulatory strategy that's designed to really leverage this predicate carefully. And there's always opportunities in the future to seek additional indications, expanded language, and things like that. So we're pretty happy, we're extremely frankly with the path that we have ahead of us and expect it to be straightforward.

Anthony Vendetti

Management

And I know the focus is on that and OSU, but is it too early to start having commercialization conversations with other cancer centers, or are you going to wait a little bit longer until even though, like you said, it should be relatively straightforward with the FDA? Are you going to start having those conversations?

Lishan Aklog

Management

So that was what I was trying to... Yeah. That was, sorry. I interrupted, Anthony. That was what I was hinting at earlier. So let me just kind of restate it a little bit more directly. So the answer to your question is yes. When earlier in this year, you know, as we were able to finally secure some capital to develop this, our strategy had been one of just sort of sticking to the OSU partnership, you know, getting a bunch of commercial experience there and waiting until the implantable to broaden our commercial activity. We've shifted that strategy. So that's no longer, we really do believe given how well things have gone with OSU, that we are in a position starting in the first quarter after we've had some volume at OSU to start looking to expand at other centers. And the key factor there, you know, it's not like we haven't had ongoing conversations and solicited other centers. We just didn't do it very aggressively because we knew that we had limited capital for commercial expansion over the last couple of years. But one of the things that we learned will be key in that is one of the things I mentioned, is to offer not just the software platform, ultimately, not just the implantable, which is economically a very attractive thing for them. But to offer some additional value-added, have a bit of an expanded vision for the offering from Veris. And one of those things includes offering clinical support services. As I mentioned earlier, to really streamline and make more efficient the process of using our platform. Hospitals, cancer centers, including cancer centers, are pretty overwhelmed. The clinicians are pretty overwhelmed. They're understaffed. And although there's clear clinical value in the data and having those…

Anthony Vendetti

Management

Okay. Great. Great. Great. No. That's great clarity. I appreciate that. And then lastly, is the letter of intent for the endoscopic imaging technology. And I know LOI sometimes, you know, doesn't result in a definitive agreement. But do you have some exclusivity with this LOI? And what's the timing do you believe that it could lead to a definitive agreement? And then would you first take that in, it sounds like because it's, you know, in the PAVmed press release, would that first go into the PAVmed portfolio and then would there be a plan to eventually shift that to Lucid Diagnostics?

Lishan Aklog

Management

Great. Lot to unpack there. So just let me know if I missed anything. So the first answer to your question is that now this LOI will translate into a licensing agreement. And it's forthcoming very, very soon. We're in the final stages of ironing out that language. So we expect to sign the definitive license agreement for this technology very, very, very shortly. That will be within a subsidiary, a separate subsidiary of PAVmed to advance the technology through some additional development work and then ultimately through an FDA submission and clearance. That work will begin immediately upon us signing the license agreement. There's development work to be done that will be done at the laboratory where this technology is being developed at Duke. To try to make some adjustments to sizing. Just maybe a little bit of background, we haven't spent a lot of time on this. This is technology that has actually been used in humans. One of our longtime colleagues and partners, Dr. Nick Shaheen, is a PI in our studies and the head of Lucid AB. Is the clinical gastroenterologist who's been working with Duke on this. So they've used this in humans and have demonstrated its efficacy in being able to detect dysplasia at the time of a diagnostic endoscopy. There's additional design work to kind of, so from a form factor point of view and how it sort of snaps together with the endoscope and so forth, that will be supporting at Duke. And once that has been completed, we'll transition it into a commercial product development pathway and then ultimately submit. We do have a regulatory. We've finalized our regulatory strategy around how to pursue this. We are convinced this is also a 510(k). It'll likely require a small clinical study. But nothing, you know, nothing too large or resource-intensive. So that's the plan. So it's coming. We're going to get this thing done. It's just, yeah, dotting i's and crossing t's on the documents.

Anthony Vendetti

Management

Understood. Perfect. You sorry. You had mentioned the relationship with Lucid. Sorry. I forgot.

Lishan Aklog

Management

Yeah. So look, the, you know, obviously, Lucid is in the space. These are patients that EsoGuard will be finding, right, who will be undergoing a confirmatory endoscopy based on a positive EsoGuard test that will require an endoscopy to determine whether they're a true positive and if they're true positive, where they are along the spectrum for further follow-up, right? So clearly, the work of Lucid is linked to the application of this technology. We've decided for the time being to keep it separate. Lucid has plenty on its plate. It's super late kind of positioned as a molecular diagnostic company. Lucid, there's an agreement with between Lucid and PAVmed for a modest equity position in the subsidiary. So Lucid will have upside on that. And then when it's near commercialization, we'll decide, you know, sort of what the right pathway for it. If there's synergies that make sense at the time with Lucid, we'll pursue that. If it's a distraction to Lucid, we'll pursue it separately.

Anthony Vendetti

Management

Okay. Great. Thanks for all that color. Appreciate it.

Lishan Aklog

Management

Great. Thanks, Anthony. So with that said, let's wrap things up. Just would like to again encourage you to remain connected to us and our progress. So follow our press releases and these quarterly update calls. Subscribe to our email alerts and just contact us by phone if necessary. So thank you very much, and everybody have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude your conference call for today. We thank you very much for your participation and you may now disconnect. Have a great day.