Okay. So I think, you’ve to look at it two ways. Number one, if you put the corona thing out of it, right? That's one way of looking at. And if you add it then, it's another way. I mean fundamentally there's not that many ships. The supply demand situation was pretty healthy, okay. And now we have this disruption and we are not quite seeing it reflected, except because we're not cape operators, right? If you're in a cape size business and the raw material business, steel mills, et cetera, you are in a world that [hurt]. That's not our business.So beyond that, it’s been fairly resilient. We do see a lot of interesting things on the ground happening, that this whirlwind of the corona has just stopped the economies. And so I think unfortunately, we are going to see some fallout from that in the general marketplace. And it's okay, because in the end, it's going to create all sorts of opportunities for us, because we're solid and we have good relationships and contracts. And a lot of the things we're doing, a lot of project bases that we hope will come to fruition in the next few months.But fundamentally, our contracts support our ships that we have on the water. We were fortuitously able to sell four ships before this mess happened. And we have reduced the age of our fleet and we ordered those ships in 2019 against contracts. And I think in this stage, what you have to end up looking at is not just your client, but their clients. So you have to understand how everything all fits together. For example, our backend clients. I think their cost of production with our new project will get down toward $20 a ton. So -- and they're selling at $90 a ton in China, and they get a premium of 20% for their quality on top of that. So I think that's safe in that example. The aluminum business, which we do with Noranda, we took over their stevedoring operation. We invested into cranes there. It’s a small capital for us, a very good business. And the aluminum business is actually pretty resilient.So, I think that when we get through this situation, which we will get through, right, whether it's two weeks or six months, it will happen, we're going to get an explosion of demand. That's my opinion.And so where we’re right now, we would like to sell one more ship, an older ship, and we would like to pick up a couple of ships, taking advantage of people who need to sell. So, I think fundamentally, we have our cash. We have a good operating business, continue to make money. So, we're in the best situation that I can imagine across -- certainly across our competitors.