Greg L. Armstrong
Analyst · Darren Horowitz with Raymond James
Yes. Darren, I think it's -- we're trying to get, in a perfect world, 5 to 6 years out, when we're making our decisions, as to not only what's going to take advantage of an opportunity maybe for the next 12 months, but what's going to be a sustainable opportunity for a number of years. I think the fact that we took a larger presence on East Coast with the Yorktown facility, the fact that we've expanded our rail facilities does probably address directionally your question of do we believe that there's new markets that need to be developed for that crude. When you compound that with -- and you got to look at multiple regions at a time because there's -- it's pretty dynamic. I mean, there's a pipeline reversal. Seaway, obviously, it's going to take some crude out of Cushing, take it into the Houston market, just about the same time that a fairly big amount of crude's going to come out of the Eagle Ford into that area. All of that crude or substantially all of it, at least that's been talked about certainly out the Eagle Ford and out of Bakken, is light -- very light crude, and so that limits your ability, quite candidly, to back out some of the foreign imports. I think there's, Harry, 5.3 million barrels of foreign imports into the Gulf of Mexico. But if you total up the light crude -- light sweet crude, the condensate even the medium sweet, that you – our candidates to be backed out then, it's only 1 million barrels a day of that 5.3 million. So unless you cancel long-term contracts for heavy sour and heavy sweet crude or you change the refinery configuration, you could end up with too much light sweet crude in the Gulf of Mexico. And quite candidly, since you can't export crude out of the United States, it's illegal, you may end up having to move that around to the East Coast on barge, and that sets a different bar, if you will, that you need to cover to then make rail competitive going in the back door. So I think when you look at our assets, I think you would see we're very aware of the dynamics you're talking about near term, but I think we're also well positioned to take advantage of it long-term as some of these things settle out.
Darren Horowitz - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division: Yes. I appreciate the color.