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OptimizeRx Corporation (OPRX)

Q3 2013 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 20, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good day everyone and welcome to the OptimizeRx Corporation Third Quarter 2013 Earnings Conference Call. Just as a reminder, today’s conference is being recorded. This will be a 30 minute call with a potential for questions after the discussions. A transcript will be available for 90 days for those interested parties who want a copy. Please contact Ms. Gabrielle Sabatini in our Rochester, Michigan headquarters. Now, for opening remarks and introduction, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. David Lester, Chief Operating Officer of OptimizeRx.

David Lester

Management

Thank you, operator and welcome everybody, good morning, good afternoon from wherever you may be calling in hope you are having a great day. To start our OptimizeRx Q3 2013 earnings call are as required I’m going to read the Safe Harbor language to begin with. This conference may contain certain forward-looking statements within the definition of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended in subsection 20(1)(e) of the Securities Act of 1934, amended. These forward-looking statements should not be used to make any investment decisions, the words potentially estimate possible and seeking and similar expressions identified forward-looking statements which speak only as of the date the statement was made. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements only because of new information, future events or otherwise. Forward-looking statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which cannot be predicted or quantified. Further events and natural results could differ materially from set forth and contemplated buy or underlying the forward-looking statements, the risks and uncertainties to which forward-looking statements are subject to include but are not limited to the effective government regulation, competition and other material risk. With that being said, let me just take a moment to share with you the financial highlights of our third quarter of 2013. OptimizeRx Corporation finished the third quarter of 2013 with revenues of $1,373,029 brining revenue for the first nine months of 2013 to $3,146,406. Additionally we achieved net income during the second quarter – during the third quarter of 10,776,000 in net income of $260,109 for the first nine months of 2013. During the same period of 2012 revenue was $453,154 from the third quarter while the company had a net loss of 106,174 a great improvement year-over-year. Our record revenues…

David A. Harrell

Management

Hello everybody, David, outlined here business is continuing to scale very nicely and we certainly anticipate these trends continuing through 2014 and beyond. I think Dave talked about our strength in terms of working with pharmaceutical companies and I think our drug inventory really looks strong for certainly our core base of eCoupon as well as moving into more patient education, which reside a long of the coupon and then finally getting into more even messaging technology to alert pharmaceutical clients or excuse me healthcare providers of new information from the drug company about their drug. Additionally, last week I was out and I met with the Pfizer teams both their medical/legal review as well as the whole digital strategy team and we’ve been approved now by their medical/legal review team for all brands, which is very exciting, not just a matter of securing the finalized budget et cetera, but its a huge victory, its speaks to our expertise in resolving any issues that they had and again puts us continually in the leadership position with one of the largest pharmaceutical companies. Additionally, our direct outreach to physicians and healthcare providers continues to be not only strong, but we are very excited that its going to be stronger in first quarter of 2014, as you know we are rolling out with our partnership with PDR the NextGen, which is a 55,000 physician practices that’s going to have our eCouponing solution as the platform. But I also have good news to share that after further meetings and discussion with Allscripts, they have elected based on our ability to demonstrate the value to both physicians and patients to expand Allscripts’ PRO to be an opt-out versus opt-in basis by physician emphasis. And one of the challenges with some of our financial partners…

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. (Operator Instructions). Your first question comes from the line of Neil Cataldi from Blueprint Capital. Neil Nicholas Cataldi – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC : Hi.

David A. Harrell

Management

Hi Neil. Neil Nicholas Cataldi – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC : I think when the call started you stated a number of distributions for October. I missed that could you repeat it?

David Lester

Management

Yes, for October we had generated 139,027. Neil Nicholas Cataldi – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Okay great. It’s a great number. A couple of other questions, it sounded like there is a – there might be a third pilot in the mix on the EHR opportunity, can you confirm that or did I hear that wrong?

David Lester

Management

No, you’re heard that correctly. There is a third-party that we are at in the early phases of that EHR consulting practice. Neil Nicholas Cataldi – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Okay. Okay, great. To backtrack for a second the 139,000 in October could you tell us what part of that were legacy distributions?

David Lester

Management

I don’t have that information available right now, no. Neil Nicholas Cataldi – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Okay. And then as for as Allscripts is concerned that’s great news has it been turned on already and if not when do you expect it to be turned on and finally how many doctors did that sort of bring into the system, is it 25,000 or so?

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes. I think it’s going to be 25,000. It’s a difficult question, it could start as earlier December, but they are going to do it in phases they have different versioning. So I would like to say and most likely to be completed in January. Neil Nicholas Cataldi – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Okay, great. Okay, and then my last question. Just to clarify the strategy we are taking out Vicis, I hear this a lot, so just to make it clear my interpretation is that one, is that you are not doing it now, but one you might if something where to hit in the near-term before year-end and if it doesn’t you think that you can extend it at favorable terms which will allow you time to increase valuation of the company next year before maybe pursing other means of capital?

David A. Harrell

Management

That’s exactly correct. Neil Nicholas Cataldi – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Okay. Okay, great. Thanks guys. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jason Revland from Blueprint Capital. Jason your line is open. Jason Revland – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Good day, gentlemen. Thanks for taking the call.

David A. Harrell

Management

Hi, Jason. Jason Revland – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Question regarding the 30% increase in distribution rates can you clarify that is this just with Allscripts or was that sort of the companywide comments about overall distribution rates?

David Lester

Management

It’s really about overall distributions through all of our channels. Jason Revland – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Would be able to quantify that, I guess I can – maybe you can just go back and do the math on, are you guys to quantify that cost further or should we do that math ourselves?

David Lester

Management

Yes. I don’t think we have the actual numbers right now but again we’re continuing to scale up quarter-after-quarter it looks like certainly a very favorable diagonal and escalating line. So significantly it’s a record quarter – month certainly. Jason Revland – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Excellent, excellent. Next question relates to the Investor Relations strategy as for as being more visible with conferences or engaging with somebody who could maybe do some of the work, can you comment on that generally?

David Lester

Management

Sure. I think as you know, we’ve been working with predominantly with Taglich Brothers and so we’ve been – Chris has head us on multiple calls and I think we’ve done a – have had some great discussion with many new investors who are very excited about the story. We are planning on being at the HEG [ph] Conference and further more Chris and his team is going to be actively pursing our current investors to make sure that they have a clear understanding that of our story and the fact that management continues to be on a daily basis, very stable and in terms of our growth – the business continuing to grow. So I think that’s going to be much more accelerated and we anticipate that upon people understanding our story and the continued growth that we’re having that that will be very effective in terms of updating each individual investor. Jason Revland – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: That’s great. And one of my takeaways from your comments about the CEO replacement search being somewhat contingent, potentially on our strategic investor, is that something that you expect to have resolved in the next three months, you might be able to announce a new CEO in combination with the strategic partner. Can you not put timeline on that as far the new leadership?

David Lester

Management

In case of timeline, I can tell you we are having discussions, but the key is that we want – we think that our company is one of the hardest companies in the industry and we really want to spend the right time in leveraging, understanding who can play the best role, I think there’s a lot of interest in the position, it’s just a matter of making sure that we get the right person and I think the input of some of our strategic partners that have expressed a strong interest in partnership could be very, very helpful for us running the business.

David A. Harrell

Management

I think that’s an interesting confluence of strategic partners who could potentially give you good guidance and if not potential bench strength as far as how to guide their own investment with somebody who they know and trust. So, I think that presents an opportunity for you to bring in a CEO of a caliber that will be much higher than somebody, if you worked in this situation. So I think that’s the way I read it.

David Lester

Management

We agree. Jason Revland – Blueprint Capital Management, LLC: Thanks, guys, best of luck. Appreciate the time you’re making for the call.

David Lester

Management

Thank you, with pleasure.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Rosen [ph] from OptimizeRx.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Congratulations on doing a great job of doing the business.

David A. Harrell

Management

Thank you, Mark.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

As a longtime shareholder, I’m just wondering if there’s any thought to enhancing shareholder value either through a stock buyback or Directors buying stock, which would show confidence and as usually met with a accretion to the stock price?

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes. I mean let me just put it this way, 90% of my equity portfolio was currently OptimizeRx. So clearly, this is my life, this is my focus, and for me to buy another X amount of shares. Again, I don’t know what message that would send, I can tell you that like I said, my network is extremely tied to OptimizeRx most likely 90% and I’ll state that. and I think we’re watching our salaries and bonus to be quite frank with you very – like we’re all under market valuation in terms of our compensation. And so that’s kind of our position on it and it certainly doesn’t mean that we don’t see this as very attractive current valuation at just kind of personal level that’s where I stand, in terms of buyback that is something that is of interest and all options are being pursued.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Well, just that if you are trying to drive more favorable terms on – in other situation, there was just actually – there was just study done that came out the financial press release today showing that insider buying is in – none of favorable dispositions of the stock. So I appreciate your other remarks and I think that’s all well and good, but for all shareholders concerns whether its your or another Director I’m just making the observation that…

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Upright is not where it should be given the progress of the companies.

David A. Harrell

Management

Right.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And I’m just trying to sort of as just catalyst…

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

For getting to stock price to where it should be in view of the excellent work management has done in promoting the...

David A. Harrell

Management

Sure, sure and again, I do certainly recognize that is one catalyst, we think that the groups that were talking to certainly recognize the scalability of this, the fact that we’re already spinning off cash and I see that being one catalyst, but I see multiple catalysts just on the strength to your point of the business the scalability the current partnerships that we’ve been able to leverage the 22 pharmaceutical companies that we’re in and so we certainly think the stock decline has not reflective of certainly what were doing on a day-to-day business, but again I think that as we tell the story and likely look at the options to take Vicis out, I see that that’s a much stronger catalyst, but again do appreciate and will do further reflection on your recommendation.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you very much.

David A. Harrell

Management

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Randy [indiscernible] of Private Investor.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, good morning gentlemen.

David A. Harrell

Management

Good morning.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So I saw on the10-Q there was a one-time settlement to Shad Stastney the former CEO. Can you tell us how much that was?

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes, we have entered an agreement with him that as previously mentioned on our last call that in little of his stock options and his continued services that we would be issuing in 500,000 shares. First the 2 million stock options that we had given up.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes. And so, did that affect the quarterly earnings?

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes, yes it certainly did in and it’s interesting if we looked at a – do you have any comments that would have affected in terms of the cash, non-cash impact?

David Lester

Management

Yes, certainly if you would take non-cash portion out of the P&L if you will, for how we structured the pay out with Shad; net income at the end of the quarter if you would have taken the – again removed those non-cash it would have been well $360,376. So obviously from that aspect it did have a pretty significant impact on the net income for the quarter.

David A. Harrell

Management

Right.

David Lester

Management

I think it’s important to takeaway though that as we’ve talked about this and we’ve kind of talked about the management discussion of the K or the Q. Understand that Shad’s departure and although we’ve had some hurdles to overcome relative to stock prices and some things, it didn’t inhibit the company from performing, it didn’t inhibit us from extending our partnerships with our partners as we’ve alluded to. We still – it really didn’t inhibit us to do bringing on more clients and getting client commitment into 2014, so we have a strong pipeline.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Let me just interrupt. So I totally agree with you. So X items you would have – the company made about what $0.03 a share?

David A. Harrell

Management

You know what, we…

David Lester

Management

Whatever the…

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes, whatever, but I’m glad you asked that point, because I think it’s a very good point though.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Well I think that’s how you should think about announcing the earnings is that hey we had a one-time thing, companies do that all the time right? They have extraordinary item X items, we still made X amount of dollars.

David A. Harrell

Management

Fair point.

David Lester

Management

Good point.

David A. Harrell

Management

And good point.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes. The second question I had is so 2013 revenues are going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of what $4.5 million, $5 million?

David Lester

Management

I think that we see if we did $1.3 million and we see a more successful quarter next. It’s all we can say, so yes, if that’s the case it’s in that range certainly.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Can you say anything about projected 2014?

David A. Harrell

Management

At this point, we don’t, but we see the scale continuing and the trend continuing. We see nothing to stop that. We see our expansion of our distribution, expansion of our offerings and we think 2014 is going to a great year for us.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes, so really the critical thing at the company today it’s seems like is this Vicis getting their stock bought back and getting the CEO in place, those are really the things that are kind of holding the stock price down probably?

David A. Harrell

Management

Well. I can’t comment. I would assume that’s having a big impact, but the realty is I just want everybody to know that we see this is an opportunity and we don’t want – we want to leverage as to clean up the cap structure and make sure that the dilution is at minimal opportunity. So we are very aware that the easy thing would be just it take and raise stock at a reduced price currently just to kind of resolve and say we move down. But we see this as a significant opportunity to either bring in a key strategic or do a little bit higher valuation so that we don’t have to give up as much common stock to buy them out. So the fact is, we have a good relationship with Vicis, again we can’t formally state they will extend our time, but I think that we are working together and that – there is – as one investors stated again it sound like this is an opportunity versus a negative situation and I would absolutely tend to agree with them. I don’t want anybody to think that we don’t see the benefits of cleaning that up, we absolutely do, but we don’t see it at any price right now. So…

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So, I appreciate that and I think that’s – I appreciate you looking out for the investors on that front. And I like you say being the largest investors you are looking out for yourself too, so I think it all goes together. So good work, I think at the end of the day the core business is by far kind of the most important that’s going well, so hopefully in due time it will take care of itself.

David A. Harrell

Management

Thank you.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brian Marckx from Zack’s Investment. Brian Marckx – Zack’s Investment: Hi guys, I just wanted to clarify the previous caller’s question about the one-time expense related to Shad, is it all of the stock-based compensation in the quarter? Does that all relate to Shad’s departure?

Research

Analyst

Hi guys, I just wanted to clarify the previous caller’s question about the one-time expense related to Shad, is it all of the stock-based compensation in the quarter? Does that all relate to Shad’s departure?

David A. Harrell

Management

Dave is it all of the $250,000? Yes.

David Lester

Management

Yes. Brian Marckx – Zack’s Investment: So $250,000 is basically the one-time charge in the quarter?

Research

Analyst

So $250,000 is basically the one-time charge in the quarter?

David A. Harrell

Management

For the quarter, yes. Brian Marckx – Zack’s Investment: Okay.

Research

Analyst

Okay.

David Lester

Management

There is also salary and some others...

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes, we also paid a salary as deferred salary that’s another interesting point.

David Lester

Management

Yes I mean to your point Brian, we also paid a deferred salary and some expenses.

David A. Harrell

Management

That was accrued over the year.

David Lester

Management

Yes, yes that was accrued but the pay out was in the third quarter.

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes. Brian Marckx – Zack’s Investment: So, totally it was about $360,000, is that what you said?

Research

Analyst

So, totally it was about $360,000, is that what you said?

David Lester

Management

On something like that. Brian Marckx – Zack’s Investment: Okay $360,000, okay. And another one, kind of income statement related has to do with the revenue share expense that looks pretty variable kind of quarter-to-quarter. In fact it looked like it was about 2% through the first nine-months of last year and now it's running about 20% through the same period this year. Can you kind to provide a little insight into what’s kind of causing the variability?

Research

Analyst

Okay $360,000, okay. And another one, kind of income statement related has to do with the revenue share expense that looks pretty variable kind of quarter-to-quarter. In fact it looked like it was about 2% through the first nine-months of last year and now it's running about 20% through the same period this year. Can you kind to provide a little insight into what’s kind of causing the variability?

David Lester

Management

Well remember on revenue share there is a couple of things that going to the equation right. It's always based upon when we receive payment from our clients that we then pay the channel partners on the particular programs that we got the agreement placed for. There are some programs that were grandfathers that again we have no charge for; there are some programs that as apposed to paying a distribution, we pay a redemption. And so that is a little bit of variability in that way as well. But as we continue to see activities ramping up obviously very rapidly, we'll see greater revenue shares being paid out quarter-to-quarter for our channel partners. Brian Marckx – Zack’s Investment: I understand on an absolute basis. But kind of on a percentage of a revenue basis can we kind of ballpark on where we should expect that to be going forward?

Research

Analyst

I understand on an absolute basis. But kind of on a percentage of a revenue basis can we kind of ballpark on where we should expect that to be going forward?

David A. Harrell

Management

I mean, I think, you should expect that in the future getting to roughly a 50%, 40%... Brian Marckx – Zack’s Investment: 50%?

Research

Analyst

50%?

David A. Harrell

Management

40%.

David Lester

Management

I would say 40%.

David A. Harrell

Management

Yes 40% to 50%. Brian Marckx – Zack’s Investment: Okay. And one on the Pfizer business, any kind of estimate on when you think their products will come into the pipeline?

Research

Analyst

Okay. And one on the Pfizer business, any kind of estimate on when you think their products will come into the pipeline?

David A. Harrell

Management

Well we already have key products like Lipitor; Viagra is going to approval, CHANTIX, for smoking cessation. But they have upwards of 15 to 20 promoted brands. So that was a huge victory every brand Director was made aware that they can now participate SampleMD and it’s just a matter of us going out there and meeting with them on individual brand level. So very excited about it, I can’t give you exact amounts of number of brands right now, but it looks very favorable. These organizations like to work much more in an enterprise wide level. So, I think it’s going to be a significant great opportunity for us to work much more closer with Pfizer and much more inclusive of all their portfolio. Brian Marckx – Zack’s Investment: Okay. All right thank you guys.

Research

Analyst

Okay. All right thank you guys.

David A. Harrell

Management

Thank you.

David Lester

Management

So at this time, it looks we’ve concluded all questions. I do appreciate everybody’s continued support and strong interest in the company and hopefully the message you got here was that our business is thriving and that we remain very, very committed not only the management team but all of our hardworking staff and are very thankful for our shareholders and the opportunity to speak to you. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call.