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Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, May 3, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Olin Corporation's First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Larry Kromidas. Please go ahead.

Larry P. Kromidas - Olin Corp.

Management

Thank you, Keith. Good morning, everyone. Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that this presentation along with the associated slides and the question-and-answer session following our prepared remarks will include statements regarding estimates of future performance. Please note that these are forward-looking statements and that actual results could differ materially from those projected. Some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ are described without limitations in our Risk Factors section of our most recent Form 10-K and in our first quarter earnings press release. A copy of today's transcript and slides will be available on our website in the Investors section under Calendar of Events. The earnings press release and other financial data and information are available under Press Releases. With me this morning are John Fischer, Olin's Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; Pat Dawson, Executive Vice President and President Epoxy and International; John McIntosh, Executive Vice President, Synergies and Systems; Jim Varilek, Executive Vice President and President, Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls and Services; and Todd Slater, Vice President and Chief Executive (sic) [Financial] Officer. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to John Fischer. John?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. Last night, we reiterated our annual adjusted EBITDA forecast of $1 billion plus or minus 5%. However, with our current outlook for volumes and pricing, we believe our full year 2017 results will more likely be in the plus 5% range. During this call, we will review our outlook for the second quarter and second half of the year. Our first quarter 2017 results were in line with our expectations. The Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls segment earnings improved sequentially reflecting improved caustic soda and ethylene dichloride prices and increased volumes. These were partially offset by planned maintenance, turnaround activities at our McIntosh, Alabama and Plaquemine, Louisiana facilities and higher ethylene and electricity costs primarily due to increased natural gas prices. The planned maintenance turnarounds idled approximately 7% of our Chlor Alkali capacity during the quarter. The Epoxy segment results were negatively impacted by higher raw material costs associated with benzene and propylene pricing, which increased 36% and 64% respectively from year-end levels. The impact of Epoxy raw material cost increases were partially offset by increased product prices and higher volumes. Winchester's first quarter 2017 segment earnings declined year-over-year due to lower commercial volumes partially offset by lower operating costs. Lower customer demand, which we expect to continue through the second quarter of 2017, have negatively affected commercial ammunition volumes. Our first quarter 2017 results were impacted by $4.7 million of additional stock-based compensation expense, which includes mark-to-market adjustments compared to first quarter 2016. During March, Olin completed the refinancing of the term loan debt incurred as part of the Dow acquisition and expanded our revolving credit facility. The new senior credit facility will mature in March 2022. In conjunction with this refinancing, we issued $500 million of 5.125% senior notes…

Todd A. Slater - Olin Corp.

Management

Thanks, John. Let's turn to our 2017 cash flow forecast which is on slide 11. We expect to generate $500 million of free cash flow before dividend payments and the $209 million ethylene investment that we expect to make mid-year 2017. Our expectation is that by the end of 2017, the combination of debt reduction and EBITDA growth will reduce net debt to EBITDA leverage ratio to the range of 3.1 to 3.3 times. Starting with the midpoint of our full year adjusted EBITDA forecast of $1 billion on the far left of the waterfall chart, we add back $10 million in taxes reflecting a result of an income tax refund in 2017. In 2017, we currently believe that the book tax – the book effective tax rate to be in the 25% to 30% range. We do not expect to be a cash tax payer in 2017. This reflects the utilization of net operating loss carryforwards created over the last two years. We expect net operating loss carryforwards to provide a cash tax shield of approximately $70 million in 2017. Additionally, we currently expect to exit 2017 with net operating loss carryforwards to provide a cash tax shield in future years of approximately $60 million to $70 million. Column 3 shows the capital spending we expect in 2017. The $325 million is the midpoint of our current forecast for capital spending. The annual maintenance capital spending is expected to be between $225 million and $275 million. Last year, Olin entered into a program to accelerate the collection of receivables, which created a permanent working capital reduction of $126 million in 2016. We expect that we can expand this program in 2017 and realize an additional $50 million reduction in receivables. This, when combined with the inventory reduction in Winchester, will generate $75 million of cash flow from working capital reductions in 2017. The next column, one-time items, include integration and cash restructuring costs of approximately $50 million. The next column represents an estimate of interest expense. We have approximately 30% of our debt at variable interest rates, and we are forecasting 2017 interest rates will be higher than those we experienced in 2016. In the far right column, we are forecasting $159 million of free cash flow after paying our normal quarterly dividends totaling $132 million for the year and the $209 million investment for 20 years of additional ethylene at producer economics that will be paid when the Dow Chemical Company's Texas-9 cracker is completed. We are forecasting this payment will be made at the beginning of the third quarter. Finally, last Thursday, April 27, Olin's Board of Directors declared a dividend of $0.20 on each share of Olin common stock. The dividend is payable on June 9, 2017 to shareholders of record at the close of business on May 10, 2017. This is the 362nd consecutive quarterly dividend to be paid by the company. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. And the first question comes from Frank Mitsch with Wells Fargo.

Aziza Gazieva - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Hey, guys. It's Aziza on for Frank. Question, so it sounds like the $25 million expected headwind is all attributable to Freeport, but how does the rest of your turnaround schedule look for the year and should we be counting 2Q as a high watermark?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Q2 will definitely be the high watermark. You can look at Q3 and expect minimal turnarounds and there will be some smaller turnarounds in Q4 associated with seasonally weaker demand.

Aziza Gazieva - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Okay. And then going to your ethylene investment, should we still be thinking of that as a $40 million savings annually, which translates for 2017 to roughly $20 million for the segment?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Yeah, we said – the annual benefit is $40 million to $50 million, depending on ethane prices and market-based ethylene cost.

Aziza Gazieva - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Got it. Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Alex Yefremov from Nomura Instinet.

Aleksey Yefremov - Nomura Instinet

Analyst · Nomura Instinet

After 10% to 20% of caustic is exported from your system, it sounds like you're the top of that range now. Do you foresee yourself kind of increasing that as a percent of sales?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

We didn't get the first part of your question, could you repeat it? I'm sorry.

Aleksey Yefremov - Nomura Instinet

Analyst · Nomura Instinet

All right. Just caustic exports, typically you're seeing 10% to 20%, at least that's what you've mentioned in the past of caustic is exported. Do you foresee yourself wanting to kind of up that percentage?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst · Nomura Instinet

This is Jim Varilek. You're correct in the 10% to 20% range, we continue to operate in that. And what we're doing right now, the market is tight. And so, what we're doing domestically is we're fulfilling all of our contracts and then we're replacing our product in the export market where we can make the most money. But we've got to live up to our domestic markets as we have contracts.

Aleksey Yefremov - Nomura Instinet

Analyst · Nomura Instinet

Okay. All right. And then on Epoxy, could you just talk about the lagged pricing impact, given raw material fluctuation? And how much of this business is kind of indexed to raw materials?

Pat D. Dawson - Olin Corp.

Analyst · Nomura Instinet

Yeah, this is Pat Dawson. And on Epoxy, when you have this kind of run-up in hydrocarbon costs, there is going to be a lag on the way up, you just can't get ahead of those kind of increases. If hydrocarbons stabilize and start to come down, then we can lag it on the way down, and that will be a positive thing. The index is primarily in our upstream products, in epichlorohydrin, in our Bisphenol A. And so, a majority of that is formula-based tied right to benzene and propylene, so that moves accordingly, and we have very stable margins there. We have very little, very little indexed formula based price in our midstream, in the Epoxy resin, liquid Epoxy resin space or our downstream.

Aleksey Yefremov - Nomura Instinet

Analyst · Nomura Instinet

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from Arun Viswanathan from RBC Capital Markets.

Unknown Speaker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Hi, this is (25:27) on for Arun. Thank you for taking my question. I've seen in recent consultant reports that buyers are looking to do more contracts relative to looking to the spot market to ensure supply given tight conditions and have you guys seen this at all, does this benefit you guys with higher domestic prices?

James A. Varilek - Olin Corp.

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

This is Jim Varilek. Yes, we have seen that, that security of supply is taking precedence over pricing, so contracts are being sought on the export market as well as they are traditionally on domestic.

Unknown Speaker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Okay, thanks. And then just back on the ethylene charge, how long will it take for you guys to receive that benefit after the Dow's Freeport cracker starts? That's likely to start-up in June or are you going to see that in July or what kind of lag is there?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

From my standpoint, when we pay we'll be getting ethylene.

Unknown Speaker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Don Carson of Susquehanna Financial Group.

Emily Wagner - Susquehanna Financial Group LLLP

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Good morning. This is Emily Wagner on for Don. In your caustic soda business, what percentage of your contracts are tied to the index? And as a portion of contracts reset at the beginning of the year, did you get that discount down from the 30% to 70% range?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

The – from a contractual standpoint, we're seeking to improve every one of our contracts all the time. And so, as those contracts come up, we're still in the 30% to 70% range. But we're continuing to improve every contract in a variety of different fashions as those contracts become available. And most of our contracts run in the two to five-year range, so we'll be expecting to improve them over that time period.

Emily Wagner - Susquehanna Financial Group LLLP

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Okay. And are most tied to the index?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

We have the majority of our contracts still tied to index, yes.

Emily Wagner - Susquehanna Financial Group LLLP

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Okay. And then on chlorine, there is about a $25 price increase on the table. Can you discuss how that's being received by the market? And then on the bleach expansion in Freeport, what percent of the chlorine is now going to bleach?

Todd A. Slater - Olin Corp.

Management

The chlorine increase is being well received and we continue to believe that the fundamentals worked towards both sides of the ECU, so that's moving positively. And from a bleach standpoint, we don't give out specific chlorine usages for the variety of derivatives that we have.

Emily Wagner - Susquehanna Financial Group LLLP

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Jason Freuchtel with SunTrust.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst · SunTrust

Hey, good morning.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Good morning, Jason.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst · SunTrust

As a follow-up to an earlier question, does volatility in raw material costs within your Epoxy business typically have an impact on demand?

Pat D. Dawson - Olin Corp.

Analyst · SunTrust

Yeah. This is Pat Dawson. The short answer is no. We feel this volatility that we articulated in the first quarter and you saw that our demand was very strong, it was up 11% over the same quarter last year and we expect demand to continue to be on plan.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst · SunTrust

Okay. And I apologize if missed this, but what was the amount of synergies you realized in 1Q? And how should we think about the pace of synergies throughout 2017?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

We didn't give you a specific number for Q1. We said $50 million to $75 million of cost synergies in 2017, and then we talked about the bleach plant coming on stream in March. So, and that represents revenue synergy that would obviously translate into bottom line synergy.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst · SunTrust

Okay. And I guess, in terms of the cost synergies, should we think that, I mean, I guess, you had realized more over the course of the year, is that...

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Yeah. I would advise that if you're trying to model it, just model it as being level, up over the course of the year.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst · SunTrust

Okay. Thanks. And then on your corporate and unallocated costs, what drove the sequential increase and how should I think about those over the course of 2017?

Todd A. Slater - Olin Corp.

Management

Jason, this is Todd. The biggest thing that happened in the first quarter was stock-based compensation was up $4.7 million year-over-year. That was really driven by mark-to-market on stock as the stock price was up about $7 from the end of the year to the end of March. And we've also commented that pension was going to be a – was going to have – pension income would be lower $10 million for the year and the first quarter was about $2 million of that.

Jason A. Freuchtel - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Analyst · SunTrust

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from John Roberts with UBS.

John Roberts - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS

Thank you. Where are you in the process of negotiating renewal in Dow's contract with Shintech versus finding some other option there?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

John, we had in our 10-K the comment that we had exercised the option on that ethylene – third tranche of ethylene. It's obviously not going to be received until 2020, but I would take that as an indication that we reached an agreement to extend that contract and we have a need for the ethylene.

John Roberts - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS

Okay. So there're no further negotiations with Shintech required?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

That's correct.

John Roberts - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS

Okay. And then in your guidance for the step-up in second half earnings relative to the first half, is it roughly half Chlor Alkali Vinyls and half the seasonal Winchester and lower benzene, lower propylene et cetera. Just trying to think about the size of the big buckets for the second half step-up over first half?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

We gave you one big bucket, which was 65% to 85%, which is all Chlor Alkali Vinyls and Products associated with lower turnaround costs and better ethylene pricing. On top of that, there's an element of higher caustic soda and chlorine prices offset by EDC prices. So I would say, in round numbers, it's probably 75% Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls (sic) [Chlor Alkali Products and Vinyls] and 25% Winchester and Epoxy.

John Roberts - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research.

Kevin McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Vertical Research

Yes. Good morning. With regard to Winchester, I think you had commented you expect higher Military sales in the back half of the year. Could you shed some light on the magnitude of that as well as the pressure volumetrically you're experiencing on the commercial side of the business?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Well, I'd say on the Military contract that we have an opportunity in the back half of the year to have sales that are up in the 30% to 40% range. I think, on a volume basis, we probably seeing 15% to 20% decline in Winchester's commercial sales in the first quarter. I don't – we don't necessarily believe that's going to sustain itself all year. I mean, in the fourth quarter of last year, we saw a pretty significant decline year-over-year. So as we get further out into the year, the comparables get much easier for Winchester on the commercial side. What we did say, we expect commercial demand to continue to be weak in Q2.

Kevin McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Vertical Research

Okay. Thank you for that. And then second question, if I may. Did your hedge positions have any material impact on your earnings in the first quarter and what would your outlook be in that regard for the second quarter?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

They did not have a material impact, and as we look at where natural gas is today or where our copper and lead are today, I think, I would answer the same thing for the second quarter.

Kevin McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Vertical Research

Excellent. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Dmitry Silversteyn with Longbow.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst · Longbow

Good morning. A couple of questions to follow-up. First of all on the expectations, which you provided for the second half of the year of lower propylene and benzene pricing. What is that based on in terms of contracts that you're signing already or visibility that you have on second half pricing or is it just a matter of the year-over-year headwind dying down in the second half of the year and not necessarily pricing being down?

Pat D. Dawson - Olin Corp.

Analyst · Longbow

Yeah. I think, Dmitry, this is Pat Dawson. First of all, this is all based on what we see coming out of IHS on propylene, benzene. We have very – we have a lot of freedom on pricing in our midstream and downstream part of the business. As I mentioned earlier, we are – we have the majority of our product indexed to propylene and benzene in the upstream part of the business that mitigates any of that risk.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst · Longbow

Okay. I guess, I'm trying to understand your comment on the second half of the year price declines that I thought I heard, but maybe not. Okay. Just a quick follow-up on the dividend policy. You've been paying a $0.20 dividend for much of those 300 odd quarters in a row. Any thought being given to either increasing the payout ratio or in some other way driving dividend increases or is this – does this have to wait until your – get your balance sheet in better shape?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

I was going to answer it that way by saying, our priority right at the moment is to pay down debt.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst · Longbow

Okay. And what level of debt do we need to get to as a multiple of EBITDA to, for you to consider a different dividend policy?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Well, we've talked about that our targeted debt to EBITDA mid-cycle needs to be in the 1.5 times to 2 times range.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst · Longbow

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Richard O'Reilly with Revere Associates.

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst · Revere Associates

Oh, good morning. Thank you, gentlemen. Two quick questions, the first one, I might be asking you to repeat this, but the Freeport maintenance expense, is that a incremental $25 million versus the first quarter or is that just the absolute number for Freeport?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

It is an incremental number that covers both incremental maintenance expense and the impact of lost production.

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst · Revere Associates

Okay. What was the expense then in the first quarter, if you had given that?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

We did not give that.

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst · Revere Associates

Okay. So, but at $25 million incremental to what it was in the first quarter, okay.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

That's correct.

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst · Revere Associates

Okay. Fine. Second question is, you kind of said it quickly at the beginning, but you said your full year guidance now you think it's on the plus 5% side versus plus-minus. You might have done this, but is there anything that you're pointing to that gets you to the plus side versus plus-minus?

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Well, we went through our view of the second half and the comparability to the first half...

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst · Revere Associates

Okay.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

...and we talked about the difference in turnaround costs, the difference in ethylene and we talked about the favorable pricing. We talked about, we think both Epoxy and Winchester are going to be stronger in the second half than the first half and the only real negative we had was we expect EDC pricing to be lower in the second half than the first half.

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst · Revere Associates

But we're speaking in general, all those are just adding up to be on the plus side now versus – versus what are they...

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

That's correct.

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst · Revere Associates

...versus what you were seeing in January. Okay. Fine. Okay. Because I don't know that you gave first quarter guidance in January or not, so I don't know the first quarter....

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

We have not given any quarterly guidance for the year. Our guidance was a $1 billion plus or minus.

Richard O'Reilly - Revere Associates

Analyst · Revere Associates

Well, you're right. Okay. Fine. Now what you've given us for the second quarter and here. Okay. Thanks a lot, guys.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And as we have no more questions, I would like to return the call to John Fischer for any closing remarks.

John E. Fischer - Olin Corp.

Management

Yes, thank you for joining us today and we look forward to talking to you in the 90 days about our second quarter results. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.