Good day. And welcome to the Okta Second Quarter Fiscal 2020 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Dave Gennarelli. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon. And thank you for joining us for today's conference call to discuss the financial results of Okta's second quarter of fiscal 2020. With me on today's call are Todd McKinnon, Okta's Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer; Bill Losch, the Company’s Chief Financial Officer; and Frederic Kerrest, the Company's Co-Founder and Chief Operating Officer. Today’s call will include forward-looking statements pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including but not limited to, statements regarding our financial outlook and market position. Forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results, performance or achievements to be materially different from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements represent our management's beliefs and assumptions only as of the date made. Information on factors that could affect the Company’s financial results is included in its filing with the SEC from time-to-time, including the section titled Risk Factors in its previously filed Form 10-Q. In addition, during today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP financial measures are in addition to and not a substitute for or superior to, measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures and discussions of the limitations of using non-GAAP measures versus their closest GAAP equivalents is available on our earnings release. You can also find more detailed information in our supplemental financial materials, which include trended financial statements and key metrics posted on our Investor Relations website. On today’s call, we’ll quote a number of numeric or growth changes as we discuss our financial performance. And unless otherwise noted, each such reference represents a year-on-year comparison. And now, I’d like to turn the call over to Todd McKinnon. Todd?

Thanks, Dave, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today. Our results mark another exceptional quarter of execution and financial performance. Total revenue grew 49%, subscription revenue grew 51%, calculated billings grew 42%, and remaining performance obligations or RPO grew 68%. We added 450 new customers in the quarter, bringing our total customer count to 7,000. Once again, we made broad additions across our enterprise customer base with 46% growth in customers with annual contract value greater than $100,000. And once again, over half of these additions were from new customers. We now have over 1,200 of these $100,000-plus customers, which demonstrates our enterprise momentum and the increasingly strategic role that Okta plays in our customers’ environment. Our momentum is powered by the massive and inevitable shifts that are enveloping companies today, the rapid growth of cloud and hybrid IT, digital transformation and security. Identity plays a critical role in each of these megatrends, and organizations are trying to Okta because we're uniquely able to address the broader set of use cases across even the most complex technology environment. Now, I will share a few customer wins from the quarter. The first is a Fortune 50 company that wanted to replace its existing identity system with a cloud-based identity solution that would support its hybrid environment, while also deploying a Zero Trust security strategy. It was one of our largest contracts ever, and covers Okta workforce products for over 400,000 global employees and contractors with secure access to hundreds of cloud, and on-prem application, as well as Okta customer identity to improve access to its partner portal. Deploying Okta will also provide visibility of application usage and reduce IT friction by automating the provisioning of cloud applications. Next, American Century Investments, a leading global asset manager was a new customer identity…

Thanks, Todd, and thanks again to everyone, for joining us. I’ll go through our results for the second quarter and then discuss our business outlook for Q3 and the full-year. As Todd mentioned, we maintained strong momentum we had exiting Q1 and experienced strength across the board with better than expected growth in many areas, including revenue, calculated billings and RPO. Total revenue was $140 million, an increase of 49%, driven by 51% growth in subscription revenue. Subscription revenue now represents 94% of our total revenue, up from 93% in Q2 last year. Revenue from outside of the U.S. grew 45% and represented 16% of revenue, which is consistent with Q2 last year. We continue to view our international business as a long-term opportunity and are investing strategically to expand our international footprint. Total calculated billings grew 42% and current calculated billings increased 44%. The strength in billings continues to be driven by both new and existing customers across enterprise and commercial. Billings also benefited from stronger-than-expected bookings within the quarter. Total RPO or backlog, which for us is contracted subscription revenue, both billed and unbilled that has not yet been recognized, was $914 million, representing a growth of 68%. As Todd mentioned, the exceptional growth in total RPO reflects the success we’ve been experiencing with large enterprise customers where the contracts tend to be much larger in total contract value and longer in length, up to five years in some cases. As we continue to see success with winning the world's largest organizations, we expect the average contract size and term length to trend upwards over time. Current RPO, which represents subscription revenue we expect to recognize over the next 12 months, also experienced strong growth of 52% to $461 million. As I mentioned last quarter, RPO should be…

[Operator instructions] And we will go first to Heather Bellini with Goldman Sachs.

I wanted to ask if you could talk about a little bit about just the competitive environment and maybe share a little bit, given the cloud native heritage, if you could share a little about how customers are starting to react to your products that also can be deployed on-premise, and kind of how you see that playing out and how you see if that changes any of the competitive dynamics that are out there today. Thank you. And then, I have a follow-up.

Yes. This is a good question. It’s really important part of how we think about the world. The major competitive dynamic really for the last several years has been, is a company moving to the cloud or are they not. And when a company is moving to the cloud, we do very, very well. And the good news for us is that, every organization, everything industry is moving to the cloud. And we are very differentiated between -- we're very, very, very differentiated between most solutions because they weren’t built in the cloud, they weren’t pre-integrated to thousands of services, they can’t be upgraded, they can’t be continuously connected to everything in the Company's environment. So, that's something we’ve benefited tremendously from. We added product that you’re referring to I think Heather, called Okta Access Gateway. We announced that at our conference back at Oktane. And really what that does it’s a bridge to help those customers move a little bit faster over to the cloud. So, it connects Okta back into their on-premise environment, gets more of their on-premise environment and connect it Okta more easily and really accelerates that journey into the cloud. And it’s still early for that product but it's off to a very strong start. And we're seeing early success with it, and we’re expecting big things over the next months and years.

Great. Thank you. And then, just a follow-up for Bill. Bill, if you would share with us, I mean, your very strong RPO growth this quarter, just wondering from a demand perspective, there's been some concern of late just about slowdown in the overall macro environment. And obviously, you guys are still in hyper growth mode. But, have you guys noticed any change in sales cycles or anything that might make you think that the environment is a little bit more challenging than it was say three months ago?

Yes. Heather, we're not seeing any of those type of things. We’re seeing very strong macro demand for our product. We're feeling like because these tailwinds that we have been enjoying for a while now, moving to the cloud, companies digitally transforming themselves, focusing on security, these tailwinds, we will -- we think are going to continue to remain C-level priorities. And as a result of that, we’re feeling that from a demand standpoint, demand is very strong for us.

One thing about the quarter two -- I'd just add to that, Heather. One thing about the quarter two is very balanced in terms like success across the board, whether it was geographically or segments of our business or the federal business, it was very balanced. So, if there was an underperformance in one area, it was covered by another area, all the performance was very balanced across the board success.

We’ll go next to Jonathan Ho with William Blair.

Hi. Good afternoon. And congrats on the strong results. I just wanted to start out, it was -- maybe getting a little bit more color, when you talked about some of the outperformance on the larger deals, can you give us a sense of what that's being driven by? Is this mainly cross-sell or upsell, further penetration, multi-product deals? I just think, it'd be helpful to just understand a little bit what maybe some of the stronger drivers were?

Hey, Jonathan. This is Frederic. Thanks for the kind words. As you mentioned, we're very excited about the traction that we're seeing with the world's largest organizations and that overall strength in the RPO indicates our progress there. The deal sizes are getting larger, and those contract lengths are getting longer. In fact, if we look at -- to give you a piece of data, the top 25 contracts booked in Q2 by TCB, as Todd mentioned, compared to last year, and that average size of contracts doubled. And so, what you're really starting to see is more and more large organizations that are either adopting the cloud and thinking about how they're going to do that internally for workforce, or for their customer identity management, good example of that Fortune 50 new customer of ours, that was entirely a workforce deployment. They think about Zero Trust and how they put that strategy in, you see a lot of upsell. So, the example that we talked about with ENGIE where they've been a strong workforce customer for a long time and are now seeing opportunities to use Customer Identity and Access Management. But, what has really happened over the last couple of years is with so much innovation, not only in the platform, but in the different products and introduction of new products, you're also seeing that we can continue to land in new places across these large organizations. So, for example, our new Fortune 500 win for the quarter was with Pacific Life, brand new customer for us. And that started in customer identity management, where they wanted to do some new portals for a new type of customer. That was a new place where they're looking for innovation in a certain way. And with the breadth and depth of the Okta Integration Network and the Identity Cloud, we can really address a lot of those complex use cases now.

Yes. And I'll just add to that. The largest organizations are -- first of all, they have a lot of things, we can help them with. There's a lot of complex technology, it's a very -- there is a lot of friction in adopting technology there. And we can help smooth that and speed their time to value across the board. But, not only are their initial deals large, but there's a lot of white space too over time, because they have so much need. So, we're not only just excited about the size of the deals initially, but we're excited about the potential to grow in these accounts over time.

Got it. And then, just as a quick follow-up on -- you guys have talked a little bit about the server access product. I'm just wondering, particularly as it pertains to the public cloud, has some of the recent breaches maybe led to more inbound interest, or is there any potential to benefit from some of the concerns out there?

There's a lot of interest in the products. And it's particularly strong in more modern development shops where they're doing DevOps, processes, and they're being really agile in how they iterate and get code out. And that's where you're seeing some of these breaches happen. And people are moving so fast and trying to innovate that sometimes they don't lock down the servers or lock down the S3 buckets like they should. So, Advanced Server Access is a great fit for that. It fits into these modern software development processes and it can help close down some of this -- these security risks, whether it's shared, administration credentials, servers, using weak passwords, user accounts not created and maintained on the servers, we can help shore that up, and it's a great fit in this modern software development world.

Thank you.

And we’ll go next to Alex Henderson with Needham.

Great, thank you very much. Just one quick question on the deal lengths. So, when you sign a five-year deal, I assume that you’re not providing any incentive for longer term deals that you’re in fact basically just extending because their desire as opposed to incenting that. Is that correct?

Yes. That is correct. I mean, what we’re finding is the larger enterprises, because they are looking to Okta to really be the secure and scalable identity standard for them across their complex hybrid environments, are really looking for that long-term partnership with us, where we can address use cases now, we can address used cases as they evolve for them. So, they’re really the ones driving the lengths of the contracts from the standpoint that it really for them is a deep partnership over time.

Great. I just wanted to make sure that was accurate. The primary question I wanted to ask is around the Oktane pipeline. I continue to be incredibly impressed by how many people show up for that conference. And my sense is that it’s delivered a substantial pipeline of leads that you’re now running down. Could you give us some sense of what your lead book looks like at this point? How long it takes to close the leads that we’re generating from that tradeshow?

I don’t have those numbers. I do know that the Oktane is tremendously influential, both for existing customers that are learning about the breadth of the platform. One of the big things we try to do and keep in mind of Oktane is that our products in our platform are very broad, and we will need to make sure we spend a lot of efforts there telling our customers about the breadth of it, so they know the value we can provide. So, that’s an important part of it, and then, as well, the new prospects there too that are just learning about the story for the first time, and we try to -- we make sure that we convey the message of the value, the core product and provide in addition to explaining the breadth of the product. We do see every year -- we see a lot of impact on the marketing funnel and on the sales results from Oktane, which is one of the reasons why we continue to grow and invest in that event. It is a very strategic event for us. So, we’re happy with -- we’re happy with how it wins the share, and we’re happy with -- we’re confident that it’s going to have a positive impact again.

One last quick question if I could. The Ping filing -- they’re obviously setting to go public. How often do you run into Ping, how do you see them competing, can you give us any color around what they might say or how you might position against them? Thanks.

So, I talked earlier about, the world is really separated into legacy and the cloud future, and the best thing that’s happened to us over the last five or so years is that everyone in the world now, they know they want to -- they’re either in the cloud or they want to get to the cloud. That’s the future strategic direction. And I think that the competitors we see are mostly in the legacy bucket. They’re software companies, they’re part of the major suite of products, like the IBM identity products or the Computer Associates or maybe there are standalone niche vendor like Ping. But they are all legacy o-premise software. And I think, the market has basically decided that cloud is the future. And that’s why you see our results twice the size growing, twice as fast as someone like Ping.

Perfect. Thank you very much. Great quarter.

Thank you.

We will go next to Sterling Auty with JP Morgan.

Yes. Thanks. Hi, guys. So, Todd, you mentioned kind of the change to the packaging and of products and the componentized nature of it. What does that do to pricing and how the procurement process actually works relative to how you had it structured previously?

Turning the products into a componentizable platform is really about addressing more use cases. So, it’s giving the customers a flexibility to use Okta very seamlessly for use cases that may have been difficult before or maybe not possible before. And so, it’s not like a repricing, it’s making sure that the platform and the products can be used for every use case the customer has. Whether it’s -- maybe they just want to use a very small part of our multi-factor authentication infrastructure to get started, right, or maybe they want to do our scenario where we do the authentication, but they rely on third-party to do the address and identity verification and proofing, right? It's all of those use cases that are addressed by what we will call, the identity engine that make it really powerful. So, it's basically more flexibility, more power to address more use cases, which means more users and more products sold.

Excellent. And then, one follow-up. I missed if you said it on the competitive landscape, but that server access solution, what do you see in terms of head-to-head competition, if there is an RFP or what is the other alternative that customers are considering before they actually purchase your solutions?

Yes. It's a great question. Really, it’s -- we're competing with bad security. So, we go into an environment and if they have shared admin credentials or not, they're using one admin account across all their operators or all their engineers, we can go in there and put fine-grained access control, very easy, very flexible, works in all of the DevOps workflows that that company has. So, it's really that evolving modern development in DevOps environment is really Greenfield. We're not competing with people like CyberArk or some of the other PAM products. Those are more for the traditional IT, PAM workloads, and we partner on those. We're really focused on more of a modern development DevOps type workflows.

And we’ll go next to Melissa Franchi with Morgan Stanley.

Hi, guys. This is Hamza Fodderwala in for Melissa Franchi. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to follow up on the macro question. Obviously, that's top of mind for companies and investors. I know it’s still early days, outside the U.S. but did notice that the international revenue growth decelerated quite a bit, versus 50% year-on-year in Q1. Anything to read into there, whether it's the currency or underinvestment? Yes. Then, I have a follow-up.

Yes. I mean, the international growth remains strong. One of the things you have to think about is the outperformance of the U.S. So, as a percentage of the business, it remained consistent. So, it is still very strong. I think that the comments I made earlier on the macro environment, that's worldwide as far as demand for us. We still believe that given the key things that we’re benefiting from these key tailwinds that we’re having of companies moving to cloud, transforming themselves digitally and focused on security is true both here in the U.S. and outside the U.S., and they're going to be we believe high C-level priorities. In addition to that when we talk about the success we're having in the world's largest organizations, we are talking about world's largest organizations. So, we are seeing success outside of the U.S. Todd mentioned one of those companies being ENGIE in Europe. So, we’re seeing very strong demand across the board.

Got it. And just a follow-up. Could you help us square maybe, billings growth came in around 42%, current RPO and subscription were above 50% year-on-year. Is that just duration? I know that there was some early renewals in Q1 as well, if you could help us sort of understand the puts and takes there?

Yes, sure. So, we do think that -- and we said this in the last couple of quarters that current RPO is a very meaningful metric when you do it with billings growth. Our current RPO did grow 52%. And the reason we think it's a meaningful metric in conjunction with looking at billings is for really the reasons you just said, which is RPO, current RPO really eliminates some of that timing that you’ll see with invoices, invoice timing and invoice direction, and actually is a good metric to look in conjunction with billings because it eliminates that type of timing that we did see over the Q1, Q2 period.

And we will go next to Francois Yoshida-Are with Berenberg Capital Markets.

Hi. I’m on for Josh -- Joshua Tilton. I believe until now the large enterprise businesses have mostly been direct. Can you just comment on what contribution from partners and specifically system integrators was driving enterprise business this quarter?

Yes, happy to do that. So, I mean, we're seeing that the investments we’ve been making in the partner channel, continue to pay off. We’re investing those both domestically and internationally, especially as we find more global reach, and scale is going to be an important part of our strategy. You talked specifically about the system integrators like Deloitte, Accenture and PwC as examples continue to be very strong partners of ours. The reality is, when we talk about the world's largest organizations, they always have relationships with at least one if not all of those in different parts of the organization. All of those large system integrators are thinking about how they can both enhance their identify practices and enhance the security posture of their customers, but they’re also thinking about how they can help them build digital transformation practices too. That's what Accenture, Deloitte, PwC think about. Conveniently, the Okta Identity Cloud becomes so strategic that we can help them with both of those things. Both helping their customers become more secure, adopt the cloud more easily, but also as they think about enhancing their relationships with customers and partners and vendors. So, those partnerships are going very well. We’ve had strong continued support from them at our conferences and events that we go to as well as the number of employees of theirs that are getting trained and certified on the Okta service, continues to grow very fast. We're very excited about those partnerships. And I think there are very bright days ahead.

Thank you for that. And just one more follow-up. As you move into the enterprise, how do we think about the competitive positioning of the product suite with single sign-on and multifactor authentication? We think that it's going to be highly disruptive, but in regards to lifecycle management, what is the demand like there, and do enterprises view that product as enough from a functionality perspective?

The competitive position in the world's largest organizations is very solid. I mean, if you see -- if you just take a look at the new Gartner Magic Quadrant, we're very happy with how that comes out. And that feedback and our position there is largely influenced by Gartner talking to the world's largest organizations, some of which are our customers already. So, they're having success, they're willing to talk about it with Gartner, and it's a really good testament to the value we're delivering. Specific -- on specific use cases, large organizations have -- they have many, many use cases, it makes sense, right? And they have single sign-on use cases, multifactor use cases, lifecycle management use cases. And we're working across the board to make the products continue to enhance the products and make sure that they're more flexible, more ability to address every use case. And that goes across the board, all the products, whether it’s single sign-on, multifactor, lifecycle management. And I talked earlier about the Okta Access Gateway, which really is a way to -- it's a gateway to help these large organizations move from on-premise to where they all want to go, which is the cloud. It's like their bridge to the cloud and it's a way for them to connect Okta back into that legacy infrastructure and keep it integrated as they move it. So, we're focused on making the product -- even though they are by far the leaders in industry, we're focused on making them even better because there's a lot of value we can deliver across the board.

Two things I would add to that are the first as we mentioned in the prepared remarks that Fortune 50 new customer of ours, one of the big things they were looking for specifically was around reducing IT friction by automating the provisioning of applications. So, that speaks specifically to their lifecycle management interest. And then, in addition to that, as we’ve discussed our new workflows, capabilities are going to continue to strengthen the end-to-end use cases we can provide for large organizations for automating multi-application, multi-step workflows, HR as a master, employee on-boarding and off-boarding. There is just a lot of opportunity there. And we're very excited to provide that value for large organizations.

We’ll go next to Andrew Nowinski with Piper Jaffray.

Great. Thank you and congrats on a great quarter. You talked about getting into more large enterprise deals which contributed to your RPO growth. Can you just give us any color on the large enterprise customers and how they're using the product relative to internal workforce versus external customers? Really just wondering if that mix is different in those large deals versus your historical customer base.

Thanks Andrew for the comments. Yes, absolutely happy to talk about that. I think, what you're seeing is that there are more and more opportunities for us to help large organizations. Think about, again these three macro trends they are addressing. So, whether it's trying to reduce costs and accelerate with the cloud, whether it's enhancing security, whether it's trying to accelerate their revenue streams and think about growing their business, using customer identity and access management, you're really seeing them use more and more components of the platform in both of those use cases, both the workflow -- sorry, workforce and customer identity management. So, there's nothing significantly different than what's happened in the past. We have had large organizations as customers for some time. I think, what is exciting is all the new ways that they are able to find value quickly with specific parts of the organization and the application suite, and then grow from there. A good example is, we put out a commentary today about Cengage, large customer of ours, one of the largest providers of learning, digital learning for university students. I mean, they have been a customer of ours just a couple of quarters, and within six months we were able to deploy our customer identity and access management to tens of millions of students for the new fall quarters and fall semesters in college that are just starting right now. So, I think that time to value and that speed to market is something that is very attractive. And the fact that we can help them get started quickly, find success, find value and then grow with us, I think pertains well for the times ahead.

That’s great. Thank you. And then, maybe just one follow-up. Your new customer adds of 450 were very strong again, but it is surprisingly consistent over the last five quarters, regardless of the seasonality in the quarter. I'm just wondering why is your new customer growth perhaps not increasing or accelerating, considering you’re getting into these more of these large enterprise customers in a relatively new segment now. Thanks.

Yes. I mean, you’re right. The 450 customers, it is a fairly consistent growth we have every quarter between 400 and 500, and that has remained in line with that historical trend. What I’d point to is really the larger enterprise, the significant growth that we continue to have in the large enterprise, we grew 46% year-over-year in the greater than a 100,000, but even more than that is the fact that with these new customers, the larger enterprise customers, we’re doing bigger deals, and we’re doing longer term lengths. That’s reflected in the 68% growth rate on the RPO that we talked about, it’s also reflected in the metric we’ve been talking about where the 25 largest contracts we booked this quarter were double what we booked last quarter. And so, as we think about the business, obviously where we’re focused on is adding new customers but we’re also focusing on adding those large enterprise customers as we talked about, winning the world’s largest organizations. And we’re seeing a lot of success with that, with larger deal sizes, longer contract lengths, and overall value.

And we’ll go next to Gray Powell with Deutsche Bank.

Great, thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple. So, I know, there are a lot of metrics to focus on, and maybe I'm oversimplifying things. But, if I look at the absolutely dollar growth in subscription revenue in Q2, it almost doubled off the pace of Q1. So, can you talk about the main driver there, how much of that is normal seasonality versus interim sales productivity and execution in the quarter?

Yes. I mean, I think, that what we’re seeing really is all being -- not all being, but primarily being driven by again the business that we continue to traction, we continue to see with the large enterprise. And the fact that when you see the metrics that we’ve been talking about specific to RPO, where the long-term RPO, the total RPO, that’s from a growth that actually accelerated the growth of the current RPO, accelerated quarter-over-quarter. All of those things because of the larger contract lengths -- or longer contract lengths, much larger value, is really what’s driving what you’re seeing.

Got it. That’s helpful. And then just on the product side, really quickly, how should we think about the opportunity with the advanced server access products? And I know it’s but the customers that have signed up so far, what kind of uplift are you seeing on the overall build of Okta?

It's a good area to judge and understand. It’s something we think about a lot. The product was made generally available just a few months ago at Oktane. And early success is very positive. It's both selling it to new customers, so a new way to land and also expansion of existing customers. We’ve had a lot of success with -- as I mentioned before and to -- answer to previous question, the companies that are really doing modern agile development and most often with using infrastructures or services where they deploy the software. And I think long term, what we get very excited about is that is the future of software development. And the early indications are strong, but over time we're hooked onto another major macro trend there. And as we see in our other businesses, building a product that is in the right place at the right time on a big macro trend like cloud or digital transformation or security is a powerful place to be. So, we're very excited about that one.

And we will go next to Gregg Moskowitz with Mizuho.

Okay. Thank you very much and congratulations on a good quarter. Most of my questions have been asked. But Bill, I was wondering if it were possible to provide a little more color around how much your average contract duration changed this quarter on a year-over-year basis as well as what your expectations are around duration over the next two quarters or so?

Yes. Gregg, so, we’ve -- our average contract duration has been in the 2 to 3-year range. Because of what I said earlier, as far as these large enterprise customers and what was driving the RPO, was longer contract lengths that you know is picking up within that range. I think, we believe that as long as we continue, which we do believe we will continue, to win more and more world's largest organizations that that average contract length will pick up over time.

Okay. That's helpful. And then, just as a follow-up, if you look at headcount, it again grew about 40% year-over-year. Do you continue to expect the higher end growth rate to accelerate in the back half?

So, when you -- as we talked about or as I said in my prepared remarks, we saw upside in Q2, primarily driven by revenue upside. We're going to make -- take that aside and invest it later in the second half of year, primarily in Q3. Those additional investments will primarily be in customer-facing headcount and innovation and headcount related innovation. So, our expectation is, the growth in headcount will accelerate in the second half of the year.

And we’ll go next to Keith Bachman with Bank of Montreal.

Hi. Thank you very much. I was wondering if I could ask about the market segments. In particular, if you think about employee versus customer, could you give us any dimensions on growth rates between the two segments? How you really see this unfolding over the next couple years in terms of which being a larger TAM in terms of incremental opportunities? And then, how you see the pricing variances between the employee and the customer segments? Thanks very much.

So, the workforce market or what we call workforce identity is still and continues to be our largest piece of our business, and continues to be very strong. The customer identity also contributes to incremental upside growth and is also growing well. We think that the addressable market on both those markets is very big, which is what's exciting for us in many ways because we’re one platform which services those two markets. And so, there's a lot of synergies between those two that allows us to do a lot of upsell and cross-sell with our existing customers and with potentially new customers when it comes to workforce, moving them then to customer identity and vice versa. So, we feel really positive about that. I think from the standpoint of pricing. Just from an overall pricing structure, workforce is based on a named user pricing structure and customer identity is based on an active user pricing structure just because the different nature of the users. But like I said, we think they are both big opportunities for us and feel good about our ability to grab those opportunities.

One thing…

Okay. Just as a follow-up -- sorry, go ahead.

I was just going to say real quickly, one thing is missed in the competitive conversations a lot of times is that we’re the only company that has scale in both of those businesses. So, we are very differentiated, if you -- coming back to the Gartner report. One of the things they found is that customers really value a vendor that can provide both of those. So, we're very excited about both and really works about the ability to offer both, because it means we can land in a more variety of ways, we have more upsell avenues, and it’s an important part of our strategy.

Okay. Well, that actually was my follow-up in terms of the competitive dynamic because Ping in the registration statement talks about a fairly meaningful size of revenues from the customer side. And I just want to tease out a little bit. I think you answered the question. Do you see any different competitive landscape between the employee and the customer side? It sounds like you don’t really see a difference from your competitive landscape, if you look at ForgeRock or Pint or yourselves or some of the legacy players?

I do think that there is like -- you see ForgeRock more on the customer side. So, there is a slight difference in the competitive -- set of competitors you see. The bigger difference I think on customer identity, it’s more of a build versus buy. We're educated people and the fact that there is a scalable proven solution that can solve this problem for them, they don’t have to build it themselves. On the workforce side, no one built it themselves. It’s -- there is leading vendors like Okta that can do it for them. That’s pretty well understood.

We’ll go next to Rishi Jaluria with D.A. Davidson.

Hi, guys. This is Hannah on for Rishi. Thank you for taking my questions. First, just following up on an earlier question. I was wondering if you could talk about how long it takes to ramp new hires to full productivity. And if you are facing any challenges with the tightening labor market?

Yes, happy to talk about that. In terms of ramping new customer-facing employees, we continue to see very strong learning and development internally in the organization. Obviously with the success that we're having in the market, customer-facing, our account executives talk to each other. And so, we’re getting better and better quality of talent every day. So, that’s the first thing is just when you think about who's coming to Okta and their interest level, we are certainly attracting the quality of salesperson that we were not able to do 24 months ago. Secondly, in terms of the tightening labor market. When you think about what we're trying to do, we're trying to hire the best people across the entire organization whether it’s customer-facing, R&D, engineering or otherwise. Those people are always well-employed. And so, we are always looking for the best folks. We haven't seen any significant change in our approach or in the results. You see the very strong 40% headcount growth in the first half and we expect that to continue strong throughout the rest of the year. And we're very excited about that.

And then, a second question. I know that there's a slight decel in the dollar-based net retention rate, and that was impacted by larger initial deal sizes. Is there anything you could talk about how we should think about that going forward, especially as you continue to land larger and larger customers?

Yes. I mean, I think as we talked about -- you're right, this was impacted by larger initial deal sizes. I think, as we talked with RPO growing 68% and we're learning not only longer term deals but bigger deals referring back to the metric we talked about earlier, where the top 25 contracts we booked in Q2 at the average contract size, doubled when compared to Q2 of last year, a significant portion of those contracts were net new business and therefore, net new business meaning large, initial lands. So, those larger initial deals are going to have an impact. And we think that the net retention rate will continue to remain healthy like it did this past quarter at 118%, but it may fluctuate a bit further, remaining at this very healthy level, fluctuating in a range of up or down a few points.

And we will take our last question from Shaul Eyal with Oppenheimer.

Thank you for taking my question, gents. And congrats on the quarter. This is Yi in for Shaul. Just two quick questions. The first one is, in terms of the larger size deals, what is the duration in terms of the sales cycle between the large ones as compared to the small SMB ones?

Yes. That’s a good question, as we talked about the overall strength that we're seeing with large organizations, those deal sizes are obviously getting larger and the contract lengths are getting longer. If you think about how strategic identity is becoming in large organizations, when they make these kinds of decisions, they're obviously making it for three to five years. And so, that's what we're starting to see. And when, it comes to small and medium business, these are still very important decisions. We see -- we do at least annual contracts build upfront, but we see more and more multiyear contracts across all the different segments of the business.

In terms of like sales cycle, do you have an estimate of like the duration, how long it takes for sales team to close the SMB deal versus a, I guess larger enterprise deal?

Yes. I mean, obviously, larger enterprise deals do take longer. Typically, there are more folks involved; it's more strategic; you have to touch more parts of the organization, whereas in smaller organizations, frankly, there's just less folks that are involved in that decision. So, it's pretty typical what you'd see in enterprise Software-as-a-Service companies like us.

Okay, fair enough. And the last question is, you mentioned about the displacement opportunity on legacy on-premise vendors like IBM as well as CA, do you have an estimate of how many customers this opportunity can be in the magnitude of it that I guess Okta could take advantage of?

When I think about our opportunity, I think of every company. And the problem with some of the legacy technologies, it wasn't sold very broadly. It was only some of the largest organizations in the world that could spend tens of millions of dollars on identity implementation. So, I wouldn't -- I think our opportunity is much, much broader than just the largest organizations in the world. Those are strategically important for us, but it’s much broader than that. And I think that in terms of the desire to move away from that legacy technology in the world’s largest organizations, the desire is really high. And now it’s up for -- it’s up to us, to keep executing and keep delivering a robust industry-leading platform that can help those customers get there and that’s what we’re focused on doing.

At this time, I would like to hand the call back over to Dave Gennarelli, for any additional or closing remarks.

Thanks, operator. As Todd mentioned in his opening commentary, we’re going to be hosting a customer event called Showcase at our headquarters in San Francisco on October 10th, and you can look for more information on that next week. We’ll also be hosting a number of bus tours source and we’ll be marketing in Boston, New York and Los Angeles this quarter, as well as attending the Berenberg, U.S. Stockpicker Conference in New York on October 3rd. So, we hope to see you at one of those events. Thanks.

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