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Okta, Inc. (OKTA)

Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Wed, Jun 6, 2018

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Catherine Buan

Management

Good afternoon and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss Okta's Fiscal First Quarter 2019 Financial Results. My name is Catherine Buan, VP of Investor Relations at Okta. With me today on today's call are Todd McKinnon, Okta's Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer; Bill Losch, the Company's Chief Financial Officer; and Frederic Kerrest, the Company's Co-Founder and Chief Operating Officer. Statements made on this call include forward-looking statements pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 including, but not limited to, statements regarding our financial outlook and market positioning. Forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause our actual results, performance or achievements to be materially different from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. You should not rely upon forward-looking statements as predictions of future events. Forward-looking statements represent our management’s beliefs and assumptions only as of the date such statements are made. In addition, during today’s call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP financial measures are in addition to and not a substitute for or superior, to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. There are a number of limitations related to the use of these non-GAAP financial measures versus their closest GAAP equivalents. For example, other companies may calculate non-GAAP financial measures differently or may use other measures to evaluate their performance, all of which could reduce the usefulness of our non-GAAP financial measures as tools for comparison. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings release. Further information on these and other factors that could affect the Company’s financial results is included in filings we make with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the SEC from time to time, including the section titled Risk Factors in the annual report on Form 10-K previously filed with the SEC. You can also find more detailed information in our supplemental financial materials, which includes trended financial statements and key metrics posted on our Investor Relations website. Now, I’d like to turn the call over to Todd McKinnon. Todd?

Todd McKinnon

Management

Thanks, Catherine, and thanks everyone for joining us today. Our Q1 financial results marked a great start to the new fiscal year. Revenue and calculated billings growth continue to be strong both up 60% year-over-year. The economics of our business continue to evolve favorably as we improved our free cash flow margin by 24 percentage points, year-over-year and were operating cash flow positive in the quarter. We’re growing aggressively while prudently managing our cost structure. Our customer metrics reveal a lot about the drivers behind our growth, while our total customer base grew by a robust 40% in Q1 to over 4,700 the number of customers with over $100,000 of annual recurring revenue grew even faster at 52% year-over-year to 747. This is a proxy for our increase in enterprise deals and expanding customer relationships. Beyond our strong customer additions, dollar-based net retention rate continued at a healthy 121% demonstrating our commitment to customer success and our customers continued investment in Okta. What's driving this growth is simple. Organizations are moving to the cloud and they want to transform their customer experience. We can help them do both securely. We have three major areas of focus that align with the needs of our customers; first, the Okta integration network; second, customer identity; and third, security. These areas address significant pain points for CIOs and developers. Here’re a few customer examples that are great illustrations of the diversity and scope of our market opportunity. Mattel an existing Okta customer first adopted the Okta Identity Cloud to support its own cloud adoption strategy for its extended enterprise back in 2015. After continued success, Mattel this quarter expanded its investment in Okta to help strengthen its security posture by adding Okta Adaptive Multi-Factor Authentication as an extra layer of security for its 28,000…

Bill Losch

Management

Thanks Todd, and thanks again to everyone for joining us. Before I go over this quarter's results, I want to remind you that as of this quarter, all of our data will be presented under the new accounting standard ASC 606. Last quarter we provided materials that summarize the estimated impact of ASC 606 for fiscal year '17 and '18. The supplemental financial tables posted today on our investor relations website include updated and finalized historical data. The updates are immaterial, but please make sure you update your historical models. I would also highlight that the supplemental financial tables included an updated description of the components that comprise calculated billings consistent with ASC 606 although there is no change to our previously reported calculated billings numbers. Now moving on to our results for the first quarter of our fiscal year '19, we had a strong first quarter and a great start to the year. Revenue for the first quarter totaled $83.6 million, growing 60% year-over-year. Subscription revenue totaled $76.8 million in the first quarter, an increase of 59% year-over-year and was 92% of our total revenue, consistent with what we saw in Q1 last year. Professional services revenue was $6.8 million, an increase of 68% over the same period last year. In terms of geographic breakdown, approximately 85% of our first quarter revenue came from U.S. and 15% came from outside the U.S. compared to 86% and 14% respectively in Q1 last year. We continue to see most of our business coming from U.S. however; the international market for us is emerging and remains an area of opportunity. Moving on to billings, calculated billings for the first quarter totaled $95.9 million, an increase of 60% over Q1 last year. Current calculated billings growth was consistent with calculated billings at 60%…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And at this time we’ve several callers in the queue. We’d like to take the first question from Heather Bellini from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Heather Bellini

Analyst

Just, I had two quick ones. One I guess for Bill and then I had another one for Todd or Freddy. It is Bill I guess for you first, if I look at your sequential revenue guidance given how well you guys did in Q1, it looks like you’re implying flat up 2% kind of sequential guide. I am just wondering under what circumstances would like what would have to happen to you guys to see kind of flat sequential revenue growth kind of what things would be factored into that just given all the great momentum in your business? And then I guess the second question for Todd or Freddy would be just related to how much of your customer conversations right now are being driven by security first? And I guess if you could just share with us kind of how the momentum might be building there, and just I guess if you can touch on that kind of the key driver of the strong results that you’re posting that’d be great?

Todd McKinnon

Management

It’s really interesting. I’ll take the second question first and then Bill can chime in on the first question. The evolution for us has been -- when we started we were really about enabling things, we were enabling platform right like make it really easy for end users to login, make it easy to rollout apps, and enable technology and it wasn’t until four, five years into building the Company that we really started selling to the CSO, the Chief Security Officer. And it came from identity being just an enabling thing to identity being the key to security. And I would say over the last year and Freddie can chime in on this as well as he talked to some of the customers, what's happening is, the world of identity and security are really merging with concepts like zero trust, which is like this post network perimeter world where you have to really manage the security and identity of every person, every device. That is really becoming one conversation. I think it's a huge driver in our business, not to mention that as we've all seen just watching the news and so forth and every time you have to -- every time you get a notice that you’ve reset your credit card number, we know that breaches and in these kind of things are a board level conversation and big thing in everyone's mind, and I think that is driving our business as well.

Bill Losch

Management

Yes, and Heather I would just add that it’s in both of the big use cases that we think about we see this trend. First of all for the extended enterprise, companies just need to do a better job with their employees, their contractors, making sure that they have secure and easy access to all these applications and this infrastructure on any mobile device. But it’s also -- when it comes to customer identity and access management, the customer Web sites are no longer just resetting a username or password, it’s about ensuring that you have very easy to use two factor authentication with SMS at phones, just making sure that that experience is simple but secure. I think it’s a paramount importance for companies today.

Todd McKinnon

Management

And Heather to address the question you had on the outlook we gave for Q2 revenues, I think there were two dynamics that happened in Q1 that I think are relevant and informed us as we thought about what our Q2 forecast was. First of all, we beat and exceeded our professional services revenue significantly versus what we had anticipated, primarily the reason for that is we had a lot of large enterprise deals closing at the end of Q4, did those deployments in Q1, had a much higher utilization from our professional services. So we saw some real uptick in revenues from what we anticipated from that. The second thing is that during the course of the Q1 quarter, we had a lot more linearity in the business than we had anticipated. And both of those things we took into consideration as we thought about how those dynamics played out in Q1 and factored it into what our Q2 forecast is. We certainly are feeling very strong about the business, the underlying market and the underlying market landscape, and feel like this is a very prudent guidance but we are very bullish on the business.

Operator

Operator

We’ll hear next from Rob Owens from KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Mike Casado

Analyst

This is Mike Casado on for Rob Owens. In terms of the cross sale activity in the quarter, how would you rank order the contribution by product? And I guess relatedly, I’m hoping you can speak to the early reception of ThreatInsight. And in particular, how the promise of pass with this access might be aiding the pipeline for adaptive SSO and adaptive MFA?

Todd McKinnon

Management

So the answer to the ThreatInsight is related to the impact of which products. So the core identity products remain very strong, adaptive MSA had a strong quarter, and we’ve also continued going down the list, we’ve also continued to see the lifecycle management be a differentiator, especially against some of the more narrow traditional access management players in the market. And then, as well as the other big driver in our business is customer identity. So every company figure how they can become more of a technology company and identity helps them with that, and that had a strong quarter as well.

Mike Casado

Analyst

I also know that Okta had been in the UK, Australia and Canada. So can you help us understand the considerations that put Paris and Stockholm next in the list? And more broadly, how you're thinking about the partnership contribution as you eye that international opportunity? Thanks.

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

I think when you think about the expansion that we have across our offices you’ve seen us obviously expand throughout the years as we continue to grow. You saw us at San Jose last year now doubling the footprint there. You see us with the San Francisco headquarters, consolidating on 101st Street later this year, which is a great move. Internationally as well, you can see -- continue to see the business expand. When you think about those office expansions you mentioned, specifically Paris and Stockholm, I think a couple of things there. First of all, they’re markets where we see quick expansion of cloud adoption and mobile applications. So when you think about not only Europe. I think France is one of the fastest growing software-as-a-service adopting countries. And then the Nordics have been good adopters of software-as-a-service applications for a number of years now. But I would think about those office openings as actually lagging indicators, because we've had strong performance in those countries for a number of years. Good examples are global energy company like [NG] [ph] in France. We've been servicing a lot of those large players throughout Europe from our U.K. headquarters, which continues to grow very fast as well. But we think it's a growing sign of solid play with our customers to have more and more folks in territory with offices and really planting the flags over there for the long-term.

Operator

Operator

Sterling Auty from JPMorgan, your line is open.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

I wanted to start with how, if at all, has the mix of products in both your initial deals and then more of your expansion deals change in the last couple of quarters, because it definitely feels like the large deal traction is growing?

Todd McKinnon

Management

So I think as you've seen, we continue to deepen the breadth of the products that we have, meaning there is more and more functionality in all of those products, obviously with a agile development lifecycle, we released software throughout the course of the year and customers benefit from that. I think what that means is each of those products starts becoming more and more feature complete. So we can really start to land with any of our products in both use cases, both internal and external and those landing opportunities, first of all, we’re doing it inside large organization, which is why you see the growth in the over $100,000 a year ARR. Over half of the growth of those logos from this past quarter were net new logos, so that's the first thing. And you see the increased opportunity for us inside these large enterprises. But also you continue to see more and more use cases. As we deepen the products and each of those products can go into both of the use cases, you’ve got more and more use cases where we can help large organization something that I'm personally very, very excited about in the times ahead.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

And then one follow-up. How should we think about how you monetize the new relationship with VMware, and how does that ramp in the coming quarters?

Todd McKinnon

Management

For those of you who were not at Oktane, we announced great partnership with VMware just a couple weeks ago, which we’re very, very right about and something frankly that customer is thrilled about. On day two of the show, we actually have the Chief Technology and Digital Officer at JetBlue on stage. And he said, hey, I love the announcement from yesterday, it's something I'm already going to put into play, which is great. So we see great opportunities to work with our friends at VMware to both improve customer experiences, as well as obviously for Okta to broaden the perspective customer base that we can go after. What you should expect in the coming months is we’re going to continue to build out, not only the product but also the go-to-market partnership on all of those, and you'll continue to see that. We are not planning on any specific revenue uplift for the next quarter, or the next couple of quarters from that partnership. But certainly, I think that overtime it could be a very important partnership. And I think it's also a good indication of larger and larger enterprises and partnerships that we can do to go and address the enterprise market.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

Thank you.

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

And I would just add Sterling, for me, it's just a representation of the presence in the market we've built up, and how we’ve become a really compelling partner with some of the largest software companies in the world to work with. It's important for us as we try to integrate broadly and deeply across the entire ecosystem that leverage in the market that drives the partnership and collaboration and is important for our strategy going forward.

Operator

Operator

We will hear next from Alex Henderson from Needham and Company.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

Just a house keeping onset, could you tell us what the ending share count was if you have been profitable for valuation calculations. And while you’re looking that up, let me ask the broader question, so very impressive conference Oktane19 up 50% a huge turnout there. It seems pretty clear that you guys are really out running any competitor that might want to get into the space with the scale of your integration network, and the attention you're getting. Have you seen any change in the competitive dynamics as your integration network gets larger and larger? Are there any reactions from these competitors? Are they falling out of -- showing up with fewer deals. Can you give any metrics around how you see the competitive landscape as a result of your obvious huge success?

Todd McKinnon

Management

So it’s really -- it's a key question. And we look at -- we definitely track competitive win rates, and think about competitive landscape. The primary focus is on addressing more use cases and broadening the platform and the capabilities. And I think a lot of the -- as you mentioned, a lot of the things that Oktane -- a lot of the announcements are around that, more use cases, more applicability, more value our customers. And I think specifically on competition -- other thing I'll add is that the employee identity has a different set of competitors than customer identity. Customer identity is build versus buy. So the strategy there is make sure we communicate to the world that there is a better alternative in building this themselves that you can use Okta as a component and to all of these identities to create challenges and major customer experience better and make your product or Web site or mobile app better, so that's on the customer at that side. On the internal identity -- the employee identity side, I would say, I would say the numbers and the growth there tell the story of the competitive environment, namely the competitive positioning we’re seeing is strong and consistent with what we’ve seen over the last several years, so we’re very happy about that. And I think you mentioned it in one of your question, like we see the big platform players that folks like Microsoft, they have a different worldview than us, or even Salesforce or Microsoft. They think about their platform -- the sale Salesforce platform. They don't think about a broad ecosystem of technology, all of that can be used by our customers to be successful regardless of whose platform it might run on. So that’s just a different worldview and I think that's why you see strength in competitive win rates against those folks. And the other thing you said was just scale, and I think a bunch of other competitors that are more point providers or identity type providers, were just executing them on a scale and a product perspective and that’s adding up to the success we're seeing.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

So no change in pricing in reacting to your success?

Todd McKinnon

Management

No, we’re not seeing that.

Alex Henderson

Analyst

And the share count?

Bill Losch

Management

Alex, I don’t have that at my fingertips since you were asking that pace on if we were fully profitability. But we’ll get back to you about on that after the call.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll hear next from Terry Tillman from SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

Terry Tillman

Analyst

Can you hear me okay?

Todd McKinnon

Management

Yes, we’re a little static on the line. Hopefully, everyone can hear us as well.

Terry Tillman

Analyst

I'm going to blame it on my phone. This quarter when it’s strong like this, we end up getting relegated to asking like a CapEx question. But I actually still have a couple of questions. I have a couple of questions that hopefully are worthwhile. First I guess Okta API for one app. Is this just a test and learn type dynamic, or do you actually see it up already that this could actually accelerate customer identity business or at least the landings, if you will?

Todd McKinnon

Management

It's definitely the second thing you said. It's a result of learning it isn't a test and learn -- so we've learned to be in this business now for a few years that, traditionally we've entered the customer identity business from the enterprise side, meaning that it was complex, multi-directory, multi-application, high scale, high user load. And then last year at Oktane -- year before this Oktane, we introduced the developer API products for developers. And that was more for developers do a quick proof of concept for PSE. And the learning there was that they needed something in the middle. They needed something that was beyond the developer API products, but not all the way up at the enterprise level, and that’s API products for one app is a result of that. So we're really excited about this, and we think that it's going to give us another landing point for this important part of our business.

Terry Tillman

Analyst

And as a follow up on the customer identity side, this is maybe just selfishly an education question from me in terms of -- are there notable demand differences or trends as it relates to you guys getting customer identity wins where it’s a custom developed type situation as opposed to like an ISV or a packaged app like Adobe? Thank you and nice job.

Todd McKinnon

Management

The customer identity business is -- the majority of it is they're building a Web site or a mobile app versus them being a software vendor themselves. We have many of those, but the majority is that it's a company transforming their customer experience by building the Web site or a mobile app. The example we gave earlier on the call of FICO that FICO modernizing their customer experience using Okta as a component inside something they're building.

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

I will just add that, I do think you touched on the Adobe piece. I mean, that is -- I wouldn't say, it's a trend but we're seeing more and more of that. For example, we have customers like Splunk or Palo Alto Networks, or ServiceNow, where they start using us for the extended enterprise, then they start using us for customer identity and access management and then they just see the value of actually putting us right inside their product. So that is something where we're very excited about the opportunity to work with some of the leading technology providers out there. But yes, customer identity and access management, more broadly, is every company has to become a technology company and provide better interfaces and experiences for their customers and their partners and their vendors, and that's something we're very excited to help them with.

Operator

Operator

We'll move next to Jonathan Holt from William Blair.

Jonathan Holt

Analyst

I just wanted to, I guess go back to one of your comments around more evidence that the Company is now becoming the central identity platform. I guess, I wanted to kind of delve a little bit further and understand maybe what supports that claim and maybe what the implications are in terms of how your customers will then deal with their other partners and suppliers?

Todd McKinnon

Management

It’s a good question, and we think about that a lot. And I think as we’re preparing the comments and the material for the release and call, it really comes down to the different types of identities in their ecosystem that they’re managing through Okta and then use cases that they’re using Okta to solve. And the more types of identity, be it customers, partners, employees and managing through Okta and the more use cases, whether it's customers logging into Web site, or employees, or partners logging into collaborate that -- when that happens, that’s when we say we’re the standard in that organization versus -- a lot of times the journey with Okta begins very flexibly in solving an immediate problem a customer has right, maybe it's one application they’re trying to get rolled out or a new project they’re trying to build. And then over time we become the standard as we take on more and more identities and use cases. I think that we talk a lot about reducing friction and complexity, and allowing our customers to focus on the benefits of technology versus like the pluming. And the challenge to that is complexity, in different ways, things are done, and different protocols and different standards, and different design patterns. And I think to your question about what our growing presence in this market, in this ecosystem allows us to do, is it allows us to help standardize some of that stuff. So it standardizes the approaches of identity and how you get to this world of zero trust parameter of security. How you really create a customer experience without having to reinvent the wheel from identity, and the more prevalence we get and the more partners we can work with and the more things we can connect to, the more we standardize how things are done and the more effective we can be removing that complexity from customers’ environments, and helping them achieve their business goals faster and that's the core of what we’re trying to do.

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

And Jonathan, I would just add, so if you were in Okta and you heard folks like the CIO of Cardinal Health and CISO of Allergan, Fortune 15 and Fortune 500 companies talking about how they seeing Okta after solving specific problems. They really start thinking about Okta as a foundational platform throughout their organization as they’re modernizing IT, both for the extended enterprise and for customer identity management, which is very exciting. But I think what’s more exciting even is that it’s very early innings. Our penetration in the enterprise is just starting, and opportunity in the years ahead is very exciting.

Jonathan Holt

Analyst

And then just as a follow-up on -- just given the strength in the gross margins this quarter. How should we be thinking about that as we think about the margins over the course of the year just given the over-performance on professional services?

Bill Losch

Management

Like I said, we thought Q1 was an exceptional quarter because of the fact that it’s a seasonally strong quarter when you have a lot of business coming in at the end of Q4, and you’ve done those -- and do those deployments in Q1. So we had very, very strong utilization in that quarter. I think that going forward we’re not changing -- making any fundamental changes in our gross margin assumptions. I think to the extent we do continue to over perform on professional services margin, there will be some upside. But I think, overall, we’re keeping the same assumptions going through the rest of the year.

Operator

Operator

Shaul Eyal from Oppenheimer, please go ahead.

Shaul Eyal

Analyst

Todd, can you share with us how GDPR playing into the equation, are you seeing accelerated conversion from just interest over a couple of past few quarters to actual revenues.

Todd McKinnon

Management

It’s definitely on everyone's mind, and the conversations are very prevalent. And it's happening at the same time as all these other trends we’re talking about, companies trying to modernize their technology environments, companies transform their customer experience. So sometime it’s hard to tease apart about what is driving what. But I will tell you this that every company is trying to figure out this inevitable regulatory impact on everything they’re trying to do. And they’re looking for partners that can help them do that. They’re looking for people that know how to be GDPR compliant and other regulations, by the way, compliant themselves. They are looking for people that have expertise and like how that maps to what the customers trying to do, both from an internal perspective and from a customer -- their customers’ perspective. So we've become very conversant in that, both in our own compliance and then the industry we’re in. We’re having productive conversation that are resonating and helping customers. So I think, overall, I think it's a very positive thing for us and for the industry. But I also think there's a lot of work to do as an industry to regulate and to effectively balance all of these competing priorities, personal data security, privacy, compliance. And I think we're happy to work with our customers and with the regulators to push that all forward.

Shaul Eyal

Analyst

And my follow up question could be a little tricky here. I was looking at your new net 350 customers that you booked this quarter. Even just from a qualitative perspective, how many of them -- would define as displacement, how many do you think are pure greenfield?

Todd McKinnon

Management

Yes, I don’t know. I don’t know the number [multiple speakers]. It’s actually like why I don’t know the numbers, because I think it’s like it happens gradually, right. Our motion is we start solving problems and deliver value very quickly. And over time, it might end up into a sizable account even before we displace anything, let alone at global multimillion dollar installation of the legacy identity suite. So I’d say the default motion for us is coexistence and overtime add more and more value with more use cases and more capabilities, and becoming the standard, and then over a number of years it’s a displacement. So yes, I think that's been our motion and that's the trend we continue to see. Obviously, we see more and more displacements, because the product is gotten a lot better than it -- over the last few years, it’s continuously improved. And customers move to the cloud and modern technology as put their architectures in a place where what we do in the identity cloud makes incredible amount of sense and the pattern of using it to displace legacy technologies is more obvious than ever. So those are more prevalent than they have been, and we continue to -- we expect that to continue going forward.

Operator

Operator

We’ll hear next from Gray Powell from Deutsche Bank.

Gray Powell

Analyst

So at the conference couple of weeks ago, you talked about how customers are purchasing more modules on day one. I'd be curious what's a typical increase in a contract if a customer buys MSA in addition to SSO universal directory. And then would it be common for that customer to expand in the phase to all users at the company, or is it really just like a certain subset of high priority users? Thanks.

Todd McKinnon

Management

So I think there is a couple of things there that you talked about, the first one was as customers purchase more for the different products they’re priced on a per product basis. So as you would go up and add more modules, as you call them from single family versus virtually adding in something like multi-factor indication, obviously, you would pay in addition for that specific product. I think what's more exciting when we a take a step back is that each of these different products are now still feature rich that you can land with any of the products. So it might be the case, for example, that you have single family universal directory and layer on multifactor off authentication. We certainly see that in examples like Mattel where they've been a customer for a while using those single family universal directory products and then added multifactor authentication this quarter, which we talked about. But you also start to see a situation where each of the specific products can be purchase as a point solution. For example, we talked on this call a couple quarters ago by the large financial institution, they were looking to enhance their customer facing Web properties and for across high network individuals, they wanted to provide multifactor authentication for that specific piece. So that would be a good opportunity that we would start externally with customer identity management and then be able to go back internally for extended enterprise later on. So I think what you start to see is you can really land with any of these products in either of the use cases.

Operator

Operator

Your final question today will come from Pat Walravens from JMP Securities.

Patrick Walravens

Analyst

Todd or Fredie, I'm not sure who. But can one of you guys comment on what the pipeline and opportunity look like in federal government, so -- and maybe does that centers for Medicare and Medicaid deals, is that help you position or help position you for future things?

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

Yes, it’s strong. I mean, the government is a big part of the world and a big part of the economy. And like everyone else, they are figuring out how to leverage technology and balance the demands of citizens with also the realities of security. And I think the deal you spoke of this center for Medicaid and Medicare services is a good example of that. We've done lot of work in terms of -- we mentioned GDPR earlier, but we've done a ton of work on compliance or federal government regulations. And the more agencies we bring on board the more evidence for other agencies that we can help them solve their problems, it’s definitely important area for us.

Patrick Walravens

Analyst

Also like if I have a login as a citizen for whatever you do for Medicaid is there a path to that later when I need to get my passport renewed, being able to use the same one?

Frederic Kerrest

Analyst

It's potential. I mean there’s lot of different Web sites and different properties involved there. But we’d like to have Okta be behind all of them. And with the success we've had in some parts of government, we can think it's decently possible that we could leverage and eventually have and not be a reality.

Todd McKinnon

Management

I think what you’re seeing -- Pat, I would just add is what you’re seeing in the federal government often state and local but particular in the federal government, I think it's very similar dynamics to the enterprise where we’ve been working with them for some time. For example, we’re moderate certified which we were sponsored by the department of justice. To give you an idea, a couple of years ago, we’re continuing to build on that. CMS which you mentioned is actually an up sell, they’ve been a customer for year now, and this is actually an up sell through the extended enterprise to integrate more services for their partners. But it's early giant market, as you mentioned it's early, and there's a lot of opportunity. And we’re going to continue to make very good progress as we go.

Operator

Operator

And at this time, I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Todd McKinnon for any additional or closing comments.

Todd McKinnon

Management

Thanks everyone. We appreciate the time. And I love this quote and it’s from one of our customers who -- he's Chief Digital -- in fact, I’m going to leave you with this quote as a final thought. So he is a Chief Digital and Technology Officer at JetBlue. And the quote is everything in aviation starts with who you are and what you do. Identity is the key to the success of this airline to keep us safe and secure. So it’s really a manifestation of how identity is becoming so important to JetBlue and to that industry. But it’s not just aviation, it's every industry that is -- every industry in the world as they all strive to connect their people with the important technologies -- and make it easy and make it secure. So the identity cloud is truly a foundational platform, and we’re investing in all these strategic areas we talked about. And we believe that that's going to be the key to our sustained long-term and durable growth. So the market opportunity is immense and we’re still in the early days. So I look forward to bringing some of this excitement and energy that we’ve talked about today and we’re seeing in the marketplace out into when we go on the road and meet with a bunch you one-on-one in the coming months. So until then thanks for your attention, and I look forward to speaking with you soon.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude this evening’s teleconference. We thank you all for your participation.