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Orion Energy Systems, Inc. (OESX)

Q2 2026 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 5, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Orion Energy Systems Fiscal 2026 Second Quarter Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] In this call, Sally Washlow, Orion's CEO; and Per Brodin, its CFO, will review the company's second quarter results and its fiscal 2026 outlook. Then we will open the call to investor questions. Today's conference is being recorded. A replay will be posted in the Investors section of the company's website, orionlighting.com. I will now turn the call over to Per Brodin, Orion's CFO.

John Brodin

Analyst

Thank you, Rica. First, as a reminder, prepared remarks and answers to questions include statements that are forward-looking under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements generally include words such as anticipate, believe, expect, project or similar words. Also, any statements describing future objectives or goals, company plans and outlook are also forward-looking. These forward-looking statements are subject to various risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations. Risks include, among other matters, those that Orion has described in its press release issued this morning and in its SEC filings. Except as described therein, Orion disclaims any obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements made as of today. In addition, reconciliations of certain non-GAAP financial metrics to their nearest GAAP measures are also provided in today's press release. Now I will turn the call over to Orion's CEO, Sally Washlow.

Sally Washlow

Analyst

Thank you, Per. Good morning, and thank you for being with us today. I am extremely pleased to report our Q2 results, highlighting a year-over-year increase of more than 1/3 in gross profit. This is also our fourth straight quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. We recorded incremental growth in total revenue and significantly more than that in maintenance services, even as we unburdened ourselves of an unprofitable contract. And we saw a welcome bounce back in EV charging as the sector-wide uncertainty of the earlier part of the year began to dissipate. When we last convened, I said that we are on track to achieve 3 milestones in fiscal 2026. Milestone 1, by the end of the second quarter, a positive resolution that enables a publicly traded Orion to maximize its opportunity for growth in shareholder value. We achieved that by maintaining our NASDAQ listing. Milestone 2, by the end of the third quarter, the enactment of a growth, profitability and cost containment initiative that enables Orion to become a recognized long-term market leader in its core businesses. This is already contributing in the second quarter as we reported 34% higher gross profit and the fourth straight quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. Milestone 3, by the end of the fourth quarter, $84 million in revenue at or near a positive adjusted EBITDA for the full fiscal year. We are on plan and our expectation for the fiscal year is unchanged. We have only just begun, and we are demonstrating building towards sustainable and profitable growth beginning in the second half of this year. Even in these early innings, it is gratifying to see that our work is being increasingly recognized and not just by our shareholders. Our partners and customers have long recognized Orion as their go-to partner for installation,…

John Brodin

Analyst

Thank you, Sally. Today, we reported fiscal Q2 '26 revenue of $19.9 million as compared to $19.4 million in Q2 '25, with 2 of Orion's 3 segments growing year-over-year. LED lighting segment revenue decreased 2% to $10.7 million compared to $10.8 million in Q2 '25, reflecting increased project activity and distribution channel sales, offset by lower ESCO channel sales. Orion's expanded LED lighting project pipeline and efforts to drive growth in the distribution channel are expected to contribute to higher revenues in the back half of fiscal '26 versus fiscal '25. Lighting achieved a Q2 '26 gross margin of 27.5% versus 25.4% in Q2 '25, with pricing increases, cost reductions and sourcing initiatives being amplified by a more favorable Q2 '26 project and revenue mix. Maintenance segment revenue increased 18% to $4.5 million in Q2 '26 from $3.8 million in Q2 '25, reflecting the benefit of new customer contracts and the expansion of some existing relationships. We achieved a maintenance segment gross margin of 23.7% in Q2 '26 versus 15.3% in Q2 '25, as there was a significant inventory charge recorded in Q2 '25 as part of the segment restructuring. EV charging solutions revenue was $4.8 million in Q2 '26 compared to $4.7 million in Q2 '25, reflecting the expected completion of a significant project within the quarter. EV achieved a strong gross margin of 45.8% in Q2 '26 versus 23.7% in Q2 '25 due to a strong improvement in sales mix. Our overall gross margin increased 790 basis points to 31% versus 23.1% in Q2 '25, reflecting pricing and cost improvements in all segments, particularly LED lighting and maintenance. We expect overall gross margin to remain strong in fiscal '26, though it will likely vary on a quarter-by-quarter basis due to revenue mix and volume. Total operating expenses declined…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Eric Stine of Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Eric Stine

Analyst

So maybe just starting on the EV business. I mean, clearly, a positive development with clarity from the government. And I know that a lot of your business there has been through utility programs. But I guess I'm curious what you are seeing with some of your customers. And I think this maybe goes hand-in-hand with the energy infrastructure initiatives and a bundled offering. But I do know that part of the reason that you made this acquisition a while back is because your customers were requesting these capabilities. So just curious what you're seeing from your enterprise customers.

Sally Washlow

Analyst

Eric, yes, we're absolutely seeing some of that from our enterprise customers, bringing whether it's an LED lighting project that would have started out as that, but bringing then EV charging into their parking lots as well. So that is some of the things that we're seeing in that. Our business was -- had a lot of utility programs, but I think you've seen in recent announcements, further expansion of the work with Boston Public Schools, MassDOT, as well as the state continues to build out its infrastructure and then hiring additional salespeople. We hired gentlemen based in our Florida office to help further expand our geographic reach as well. And we have a couple of other areas targeted that we're investigating right now and more to come on that.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Okay. And then, I mean, I guess, segue to energy infrastructure, is this something where you feel like you can accelerate some of that traction if you are going to the market with more of a bundled offering? Or maybe that's -- I'm not sure if that's how you think about it or not, but a bundled offering where, again, a customer just has one point of contact for everything that they want to do.

Sally Washlow

Analyst

Yes. We're certainly looking at that, and a lot of it has been developed through customer requests. We're on site. They see the work that we do. An example of this would be it started as an LED lighting project, but maybe they need help bringing their facilities up to code. And then they turn to us to say, "Can you do that and manage that project for us as well?" So those are where the work in electrical infrastructure is expanding, and we're at the very beginning of this as well, but even energy storage so that they look to offload the peak time, so working to develop relationships to bring energy storage into their facilities as well.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Maybe last one. Just you had the maintenance agreement renewal. I think we can all kind of guess who that customer is. But just curious, maybe not to that size, given who that customer is, but what are you seeing on that front? Clearly, you are sounding more positive, although modest growth this year, certainly long term on the maintenance side. What are you seeing in terms of demand there from other enterprise customers?

Sally Washlow

Analyst

So we have some other customers as well. It's a little bit of a slower build as we work with them. But month-over-month, that revenue is growing with them as well and the trust that they have in us. So we think that, that will continue to expand.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Sameer Joshi of H.C. Wainwright.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst

Just a little bit more on the EV outlook. I know you are expecting flat or slightly lower year-over-year growth there. But in terms of the strategy going forward, given that these funds are now -- the $5 billion are being made available, do you expect or are you planning to have some kind of a geographic expansion or maybe a roll-up with some other similar businesses that might increase the size of your EV offering?

Sally Washlow

Analyst

Sameer, we are certainly looking at a geographic expansion. And of note, hiring a sales gentleman to lead our Jacksonville office and then other areas of the country as well. The teams are working on mapping out where we best have personnel and then also where there's a lot of EV infrastructure work going on. So we certainly expect further geographic expansion.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst

Understood. Switching to lighting. I think one of the things I may have misheard, but just making sure the $42 million to $45 million recurring revenue potential, is that over the life of the contract? Or what do those numbers represent?

Sally Washlow

Analyst

Yes. It's a 3-year contract renewal. So that's over the life of the 3-year contract.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst

Okay. And then, of course, I should have started with congratulations on the cost control efforts and the results. But I also heard during the commentary from both of you, the word ongoing. Should we expect further improvements in gross margins to like mid-30s or near that level? And on the operating expense front, I have noticed in the last couple of quarters, your sales and marketing expense as a percent of revenues have reduced. Are there some synergies you are seeing there that we may have missed?

John Brodin

Analyst

Yes, Sameer, I think a couple of thoughts on those questions. I'll try to catch all of them. On the expense line, I think what I tried to convey is that the Q2, the most recent quarter that we completed from an OpEx standpoint is the level that I think we expect for the next 2 quarters. We are -- I think some of the other comments are aimed at saying that we will continue to look for savings opportunities that are out there. But at the same time, we'll also look for opportunities that we may need to invest a little bit of money as we did with the salesperson in EV because we think that will have a good payback for us as we expand sales in the EV segment. From a margin standpoint, I don't think in the near term, we have an expectation of getting into the mid-30s. I think being in the neighborhood of the high 20s to 30% is probably more realistic. As I mentioned, there will definitely be some fluctuation there depending on mix as well as sales volumes that cover fixed costs within our COGS structure. So hopefully, that clarifies those two.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst

Yes, understood. Just last one maybe and just a clarification. The $875,000 paid during the quarter, were they part of -- on a GAAP accounting basis from a previous quarter? Or are these $875,000 included in the OpEx that are for the September ending quarter?

John Brodin

Analyst

The $875,000 that was paid had been accrued as of March 31, as was the $1 million that was paid in equity. So we had the larger accrual at March 31, we made those two payments. And then there's still a remaining balance that as we've disclosed separately, is subject to arbitration. So we expect that to play out over the next quarter or so.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst

And has that been accrued or is that pending the settlement?

John Brodin

Analyst

We've accrued what we believe is the appropriate amount, and that was accrued as of March 31.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Bill Dezellem of Tieton Capital Management.

William Dezellem

Analyst

I have a group of questions. I'd like to start with the Lighting business. You brought in some talent to reignite ESCO distribution revenues. Would you please discuss whether there's been any tangible benefit yet? And I recognize it's very early to ask the question or whether that pipeline is still developing.

John Brodin

Analyst

Bill, it's Per. Yes, I think in my remarks, I mentioned that in the quarter, our distribution channel revenues increased, and that's where the, I'll say, the main talent addition that we discussed back in the June time frame was mentioned. I think that he has landed on solid ground and with a running start of some sort because of his connections within the industry. And we think that he will continue to build that. That was consistent with another comment I made in my commentary. So I think the ESCO channel, we've not made recent investments from a sales standpoint in that channel, but that is a channel that we will also press on to ensure that we can maximize the opportunities on all 3 of the lighting channels.

William Dezellem

Analyst

So in spite of his short tenure, there already has been a benefit. So if that's the case, presumably one doesn't hit their full stride and at maximum performance in just a few months. So presumably, that business builds and that's part of what your comments were alluding to relative to the remainder of the year?

John Brodin

Analyst

That's correct. And we have high expectations as we move forward into the next 2 years.

William Dezellem

Analyst

Great. And Per, did I hear you in response to my question, also say that you will be adding additional sales talent in the distribution arena? And if that is the case, are you essentially waiting for a little higher revenue so that you can pay for that individual who will then generate the next level and start layering on top of layers?

John Brodin

Analyst

No, I did not say that. I'd say that it's something that would certainly be considered as the current executive continues to perform and as we evaluate other opportunities to grow that channel. But no firm plans at this time.

William Dezellem

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then I'd like to shift to maintenance real quick. The quarter you said had a headwind because you had unprofitable maintenance contract that you walked away from. How much of a revenue headwind was that in the quarter?

Sally Washlow

Analyst

So we -- I don't have the exact number right now at my fingertips, but it was from last quarter. So quarter-over-quarter as that -- or last year, I apologize. As those contracts lapse, then we're growing the business in other areas was the intent of that.

John Brodin

Analyst

Last year, we essentially were wrapping up that contract in Q2 of fiscal '25. So there was headwind of a tough comp, but it was not -- I'd just say round numbers, it would have been less than $0.5 million.

William Dezellem

Analyst

Okay. And then did you add any notable business beyond your largest customer in the maintenance arena this quarter specifically?

Sally Washlow

Analyst

We have continued to add some customers or growth within customers beyond the large customer. The large customer does take up a significant portion of it. So they're of note to us because they are growing every month, and we'll continue to watch their growth and further partner with them and gain more customers in that area.

John Brodin

Analyst

Maybe another way to think about it, Bill, is we've gained new customers over the past year, and the business we're doing with them has expanded as we've moved forward in that relationship.

William Dezellem

Analyst

Per, I'm going to build off of that. Do you see an opportunity with those customers to continue to build further as you execute? Or are you now reaching kind of a steady-state run rate with them and you'll be needing to add additional -- not that you don't want to already, but you'll need to add additional customers to build revenue further?

John Brodin

Analyst

I think it will be a little bit of both. The -- we don't believe we're at run rate with some of these newer customers. So we think that will continue to expand, and we think we will continue to attract new customers as we move forward.

William Dezellem

Analyst

Right. Okay. That is helpful. And then at a high level, do you see the maintenance business as a lead generator for product sales, whether it be lighting or EV?

Sally Washlow

Analyst

I mean we are seeing some of that with the maintenance products. Product sales within that segment are increasing. So certainly, we look to all customer touch points as potential lead generators into other areas.

William Dezellem

Analyst

I guess, Sally, where I was going with that is, does it give you a special insight that you may not otherwise have if you weren't inside the customers' 4 walls doing the work?

Sally Washlow

Analyst

Yes. So I guess to answer that part of it, absolutely, we see some of that with the expansion of some of the services that we're doing. Had we not been within the 4 walls of the customer and maybe doing work in other areas, and they're asking, "Can you project manage this part of bringing some of our systems up to code as well?" We wouldn't have gotten that business had we not been there working side-by-side with them.

William Dezellem

Analyst

That's helpful. And then I know I'm taking up a lot of time, but one additional question or clarification relative to the EV business. I heard I thought 2 different things in terms of your commentary. One is some level of caution for the remainder of the year for sales there, but that there's also more clarity on the EV rules and that bodes well for the future. So let me try to put a fine point on it here that the Q1 EV revenue was $2.7 million. Here in Q2, it was $4.8 million. Are you anticipating approximately holding at this $4.8 million for the next couple of quarters? Or do you continue to see some level of growth from the $4.8 million?

Sally Washlow

Analyst

Yes. I think we're cautious on our guidance for the year because we ultimately lost a couple of months there with all the uncertainty at the beginning of the year. But our expectation is to be flat to a little bit down in EV for the year. But I think your numbers are right in the realm of what we expect to do for the next couple of quarters to deliver on that and start to regain some momentum from what was basically lost or at a standstill in the first quarter.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Steve Rudd of Blackwall.

Steve Rudd

Analyst

Very encouraging results. Can you talk about the cost containment? I mean, obviously, we're seeing top line trend of growth from a cost containment and cost leveraging point of view or infrastructure leveraging point of view, how much more room do we have to go?

John Brodin

Analyst

If I interpret your question properly. We think we have -- I'll step back. Earlier in the year, we think we rightsized the business so that we could be at or above breakeven in the $80 million to $83 million of revenue standpoint. And that's on an adjusted EBITDA basis. I think now that we have 4 consecutive quarters of positive adjusted EBITDA and $80 million of trailing 12 revenues, I think that's holding true. So -- and then if you look at our guidance, we obviously are expecting a little bit stronger performance in the second half compared to the first half to get to the $84 million. In terms of what we can deliver with the infrastructure that we have, we think that we can leverage this infrastructure quite a bit. There certainly are some variable costs such as commissions on sales. We always are happy to pay increases in commissions because that means our sales are increasing. So there'll be some things like that, that will come to us. But we think on an overall basis, we'll be able to leverage this infrastructure with a fair amount of revenue growth.

Steve Rudd

Analyst

So it's your assessment at this point that you have your baseline costs exactly where you'd like them to be and not much more to be done there?

John Brodin

Analyst

I'd say in general, yes. But to my -- one of my previous comments, you're always looking for opportunities for savings. And some of that you may need to try to find money to invest in growth opportunities, and that's the balance that we'll continue to work on as we move forward.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our Q&A session. I'll now turn the conference back to Sally Washlow for concluding remarks.

Sally Washlow

Analyst

I want to thank everyone again for taking time to join us today. We look forward to updating investors on our third quarter call in early February. In the interim, we hope to have an opportunity to meet with many of you either in person or virtually. We will be presenting at a number of conferences, including the Craig-Hallum Alpha Select Conference on November 18. Details will be coming out tomorrow and the Singular "Best of the Undercovered" (sic) [ Uncovered ] conference on December 11. We will announce details via press releases. Please also reach out to our Investor Relations team with any questions or to set up a meeting. Their contact information is at the bottom of today's press release. Thank you again for your interest in Orion. I look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.