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Oil-Dri Corporation of America (ODC)

Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Dec 13, 2023

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Leslie Garber

Management

Good morning and welcome to Oil-Dri Corporation of America's 2023 Annual Meeting of Stockholders. My name is Leslie Garber and I am the Director of Investor Relations at Oil Dri. We're conducting this meeting virtually, a format which enables greater stockholder attendance and participation, improved efficiency, and increases our ability to communicate with stockholders and reduces costs. On your screen under meeting materials, you will find the meeting agenda, rules of contact, list of stockholders of record, and Oil-Dri's proxy statement and annual report. During the meeting today, we will be covering the election of directors and four other proposals. Next will be the business presentations and financial review followed by time for Q&A. We ask that you submit your questions online under the Ask a Question field on your screen. Only stockholders of record are able to ask questions during the meeting. Stockholders will also be able to vote online by clicking the Vote Here button on your screen. Now it is my pleasure to introduce Laura Scheland, our Chief Legal Officer and the Vice President and General Manager of the Consumer Products Division. She will conduct a formal portion of today's meeting.

Laura Scheland

Management

Good morning ladies and gentlemen. I now call the order of the 2023 Annual Meeting of Stockholders of Oil-Dri Corporation of America to conduct the formal business set forth in the notice of meeting and proxy statement. Commencing on October 30, 2023, a notice regarding the availability of proxy materials or a copy of the proxy materials was mailed to all Oil-Dri stockholders of record as of the close of business on October 16th, 2023, which is the record date fixed by Oil-Dri's board of directors for the determination of stockholders entitled to notice of and to vote at this meeting. Broadridge Financial Solutions Inc. has delivered an affidavit confirming the foregone. Oil-Dri has appointed Peter Sablich of CT Hagberg LLC to serve as the Inspector of Election for this meeting. He is present on the webcast and has taken the oath of office. As of October 16, 2023 the record date for this meeting, there were 5,108,734 shares of Oil-Dri's common stock and 2,170,415 shares of Oil-Dri's Class B stock outstanding. Holders of our common stock are entitled to one vote per share and holders of our Class B stock are entitled to 10 votes per share and generally vote together without regard to Class. A quorum is present at this meeting if holders of a majority of our common stock and Class B stock outstanding are present in person or represented by proxy. Thus, the number of votes necessary to constitute a quorum at this meeting is 13,416,505 votes. Mr. Sablich has informed me that there are more than such numbers of votes represented at this meeting. Therefore, I declare there is a quorum present for purposes of transacting business. Now, I will present the matters to be voted upon. If any stockholder who would like to make…

Dan Jaffee

Management

Thank you Laura, and welcome everyone to the business section. We've got a great line of presentations for you today. Fiscal 2023 was our 83rd year in business, and it was our best. And fiscal 2024 will be our 84th, and we're off to a great start, and you'll hear all about that coming up. And investment in Oil-Dri is truly an investment in our people and I cannot over emphasize how great our team is and how appreciative I am for their work. I mean, it's the most talented, most cohesive, most positive team I've ever seen in business. And I think most of our teammates feel the exact same way and that's a direct correlation to the results you're seeing. It's not a coincidence. So I would like to highlight a few of the teammates who made the biggest contribution. No, I'm kidding. It's really people that were promoted during the year. Everybody made a big contribution, which is why we call everyone a teammate, because we're all on the same team. But this just highlights some of the people that during the year were promoted, took on new challenges, and are adding value in a new area. First and foremost, Laura Scheland, who, as you saw, has the longest title in Corporate America, Chief Legal Officer, Vice President and General Manager of the Consumer Products Division, an all-around great person. Currently at Oil-Dri, she oversees our legal affairs, but also is grabbing the reins of our largest division, which is the cat litter business, the consumer products division. You can see, she comes to us with a wealth of background and experience, but aside from being a lawyer, she was actually an accounting major back at Notre Dame, and so it clearly has a strong business background.…

Susan Kreh

Management

Thank you, Dan. It's not open mic night to today.

Dan Jaffee

Management

It is not. I'm not bummed.

Susan Kreh

Management

It's truly a privilege to be here today to share some highlights of our fiscal year 2023, which was an all-time record year for Oil-Dri, as well as to share some highlights for the first quarter of fiscal 2024, where we continue to see momentum as the team, and Dan mentioned, it's a really strong team, delivers double-digit net sales growth across the board and doubles net income over the first quarter of fiscal 2023. As I proceed through the slides, I will be sharing a look back at the past five years of performance trends, as well as focusing on our first quarter results. As you're reviewing the trends, you will note that the global pandemic had a significant impact not on our top line or on our sales, but on Oil-Dri’s earnings as the costs associated with the disruptions in the global supply chain gets faster than we were able to pass on in pricing. You will see that not only have we recovered, but we emerged stronger than ever, spurred by a tailwind of growth in high-value products, such as lightweight cat litter, specialty products which include edible oils and renewable diesel, and animal health and nutrition products. That recovery in growth resulted from our team's focus on our growth strategies even during tough economic times that were incurred during the pandemic. Under Dan's guidance, our team stayed focused on our long-term goals, while successfully navigating the short-term challenges presented by the supply chain. And we are benefiting from that long-term focus today. Now, I don't want to steal the thunder, even though I'm going to just a little, but I will share the highlights. In a few minutes, Chris Lampson will discuss the successful launch of our Cat’s Pride Antibacterial Clumping Litter. Dr. Wade Robey will…

Aaron Christiansen

Management

Thank you, Susan. I'm really excited to have a chance again this year to talk to our shareholders for a brief minute. Much like last year, I'm going to speak exclusively to the multi-year continued commitment in capital reinvestment in our business. A reminder, and I shared a similar message a year ago, Oil-Dri is continually looking for ways to invest in business continuity through the reestablishment of our aging asset base, looking for savings opportunities and growth opportunities. We also are continually looking for unique ways to invest in working conditions for our teammates, our mineral reserves, which is the lifeblood of our business and our facilities themselves. Shown here is the past five-year trend for capital reinvestment. Susan alluded to this earlier. Fiscal 2023 was the highest year of capital expenditure in Oil-Dri's history, investing approximately $24 million in capital. Fiscal 2024 and beyond are anticipated being at or above these levels. Oil-Dri is committed in the years ahead, as Susan alluded to, to reinvesting in our business, for our consumers and our shareholders. I'm going to talk through three specific investments that have been made and completed or will be made in the year ahead to give our shareholders some insight into the array of things Oil-Dri is spending capital into. Susan just alluded to this one. We have invested in a series of alternative energy technologies in our Taft, California plant. I've had a chance to talk with this multiple times over the past quarterly and annual meetings. It has been a long journey to get to the point we are now. It is now fully operational. It's a combination of LED lighting, some power monitoring technology, and the two primary solutions, which are a combination of PV solar and natural gas-fired turbine generators that use…

Chris Lamson

Management

Thanks, Aaron, and good morning, everyone. Good to be back with you again this year and talking about exactly what we talked about last year, relative to the lightweight business. And hopefully you feel good about that. Hopefully that demonstrates strategic consistency. Last year, I think we were talking, it was more of a tell than a show. We were really talking about some shifts in strategic plans to further accelerate our growth in lightweight. This year will be more show than tell. We've activated a number of those plans and we're excited to give you a better feel for you today by showing them. We've started, I think, over the last several years with a few slides to just ground you in what's been very solid growth across our litter business. So this gives you a picture of our domestic cat litter business as a whole with strong growth just over 10% approach at 11%. And I think the consistency of the growth is worth calling your attention to. Then shifting to our lightweight litter business, you saw an 11% compounded growth on the previous slide. Here you see 17% growth and if you pay particular attention to this last year. First, I'm wondering why some of our long-term shareholders didn't go out and buy $100,000 more in litter, so we could have hit triple digits there and gotten to $100 million. Help a guy out. But in all seriousness, about 30% growth year-over-year on the lightweight business, which speaks to, I think, some of that strategic consistency. Now, it should come as no surprise given that kind of growth, given that 30% growth, that we're growing share within the lightweight segment. We actually grew share overall within cat litter over the past year. So the first two bars really -- first two charts really represent that. So growth in overall share of lightweight and then significant growth in private label light weight approaching about 80%. But we always need something to work on, which is, we really do believe, and in fact, these are dollar shares, but we're the unit share leader in lightweight litter. It's incumbent upon us to grow the lightweight segment. It's Really what most of the presentation is about. And I know my boss is pretty passionate about this topic because, Dan, you want to?

Dan Jaffee

Management

Yes, because what the market is saying is that, 15% of the category has moved-ish to lightweight. Now, we know that over half the category in Canada has moved to lightweight, and we actually don't believe that Canadian cats or Canadian consumers are that much different from their U.S. counterparts. So there's some disconnect there and we can talk about that and Chris has talked about it. But if you just look mathematically and say, okay, so 15% like lightweight, does that mean that 85% of consumers, all things being equal? And we know the consumer in cat litter tends to be women 25 to 54 years of age. So you're saying women in general prefer a product that's two to times times heavier. And I think the operative word is, all things being equal. The fact is, it's not equal. They're either able to get a better value. We have competitors that have decided to charge 30% to 40% more for lightweight. Well, that's a big hit on an annual budget. So there are consumers that says, for that delta, I'm taking home the heavier product. We have competitors who have launched somewhat inferior products, or they're good products, but they're really not that light. So there really isn't all things being equal. The consumer doesn't have that. And so we have launched Project Utopia and that's our goal. Our goal is to give the consumer what they want, what the efficacy they want, at a price point that they believe there's real value at. And at that point, we believe they'll choose lightweight. So I'll turn it back to you, because we can tell I'm very passionate about this, because I don't believe that all things being equal, consumers prefer three times the weight. And by the way, the carbon footprint is three times worse because we weigh out trucks. So if we can get the consumer what they want, it'll actually help the environment in a big way.

Chris Lamson

Management

So really a perfect setup. The rest of the presentation is really how do we further stimulate growth and it's like 60 plus up in Canada. So how do we transform the US category? [Multiple Speakers] I shouldn't have told you. So how do we get there? It is clearly a journey. It's one that I think, really the top box there is the top box for a reason. It's going to take significant innovation. Dan gave you our internal project name, which is Project Utopia. And it is sort of what it implies. It is all about removing the barriers that Dan spoke to. Be them value barriers that we control. Be them quality and performance barriers. But we have exemplified that we, as a smaller player in the category, can bring breakthrough innovation. We did it in 2011 with lightweight litter. We believe this year we launched just within the last quarter, in the last fiscal year, significant innovation. Our customers are telling us a significant innovation in the first and only EPA approved antibacterial cat litter. We'll talk more about that. The second piece of the platform, if you will, is really making sure lightweight and the benefits of lightweight are at the center of our consumer message. We'll show you some of that here in a minute. And then finally, and with I think a lot of consistency, a lot of the same benefits that Dan just spoke of around the carbon footprint, the ability to handle, the ability to fill trucks in a more effective way, and growing consumer need for lightweight are all at the center of our message, by our retailers and they're listening and candidly driving the lightweight business with us. So those are really the three platforms. All three of those…

Unidentified Company Representative

Management

Back to you, Chris.

Chris Lamson

Management

Thanks, Nick. Finally, we'll wrap up. And a little bit difficult to depict for you our sales folks in selling with fires. We did think we'd talk about what has been really extraordinary results here in terms of distribution, in particular. So as you look across our lightweight business and that 80 share on the private label side, we can now say that over 50% of all outlets, individual doors that sell cat litters, sell Oil-Dri private label light weight cat litters. Which is fairly remarkable. Some of the doors and probably the majority of the doors that don't are actually doors that just don't sell private label [indiscernible] or at least lightweight cat litter period. We've also really experienced over the last couple of years. I think, as we've talked before on calls about great progress relative to getting our price value relationship right. We've done that particularly well in e-comm, and you can see that since 2021, we've actually just a little more than doubled our share on Amazon. And then finally, really solid new distribution gains, particularly around private label new doors. So brand new outlets. And then, as it relates to the brand, what we've seen, and actually saw this question pop up, go ahead and practically address it. Really on the branded side, it's been a story more of expanded distribution, where we already have distribution, particularly behind the antibacterial innovation where almost all of those new doors were incremental distribution. Said differently. We didn't lose anything. We just gained. So really, just to wrap it up, this story begins with us innovating in this category back in 2011. Retailers responded to gain distribution. We level up on consumer messaging that hits the mark and is driving strong ROI's. That drives further distribution, fuels further innovation that Dan alluded to. Where -- yes, we did drive true innovation around antibacterial, but we're focused over the long term on removing any and all barriers to lightweighting. And they're chasing that market. So with that, I will turn it over to Bruce Patsey, who we love to call Bruce almighty.

Bruce Patsey

Management

Yeah. Very funny. Chris, thanks very much. I appreciate it. It's exciting to see all the growth in your market. I'm Bruce Patsey, the Vice President of Fluids Purification Group, and one of the items I'll be talking about, a new market opportunity, as you've heard about, renewable diesel in this presentation. Our filtration unit, we sell the three main categories of business. So we sell into vegetable oil business, and we sell into jet fuel processing, where we're adding a small granule to clean up jet fuel before it goes to the yard to be put in the plane. And then lastly, we sell into biofuels market, which is both renewable and biodiesel market. And we sell a couple of new absorbents, metal X and metal Z, into this marketplace. And it's where we're seeing a lot of growth in our business. If you take a look over the last five years of our business, you'll find that in fiscal 2022 and 2023 we've seen significant growth in our business, and a lot of that is tied to the renewable diesel business. And also we've picked up some new vegetable oil customers in that timeline as well, which has been very exciting for our business. What is renewable diesel? Well, renewable diesel is an advanced biofuel that's derived from vegetable oils, natural fats and greases. It burns cleaner than diesel, regular oil diesel fuel from the ground and emits less carbon dioxide than petroleum diesel, which is a big driver in why this industry is really starting to grow so fast. How is it different from biodiesel? Biodiesel has been around for a while. A renewable diesel is chemically the same as petroleum diesel, and you can blend it in at 100% right into diesel fuel. So that's driving…

Bruce Patsey

Management

Yeah, thank you, Bruce, and good morning, everyone. It's my privilege this morning to talk to you about our Amlan International business. Amlan is the Animal Nutrition and Health Business of Oil-Dri Corporation of America. I'm going to start this morning with an overview of our portfolio just to level set everyone and help everyone understand how we go to market around the world. We have a unique set of branded items that we sell in North America. We launched these just a couple of years ago, which I'll show you on a subsequent graph. But we address this market with a number of different products that are designed to improve the productivity of animals to help them reach their potential, and really help the economics of production. When we look internationally, we have an opportunity to target very specific segments of the market, so we organize our products a little bit differently, and we brand them differently, and promote them differently in the market. So under our disease prevention sector, we have a couple of new products we've launched, a product called [NutriPath] (ph) that we'll discuss a little bit later in a product spotlight. And also a product called [indiscernible] or [indiscernible] Fusion, which is a natural anticoxidial product that can work either individually or synergistically in a bio shuttle program with other anticoxidials, whether they be chemicals or antibiotics or even anticoxidial vaccines. We also have products that target just general productivity or feed efficiency in animals. That's our varium and our neoprime products. And then lastly, our Cadillac products for biotoxin control, Calibran Z and Calibran A. As you look at our performance over the last five years from 2019, obviously moving through the pandemic, we've seen nice growth in the Amelin business with a compounded…

A - Leslie Garber

Operator

Great. Thanks, Wade. Thank you all for listening to our presentation. I will now open up the floor to questions. [Operator Instructions] I will now read the first question. It comes from Ethan Starr, an individual investor. And he asks, what are the prospects for significant revenue growth for Amlan's products, and when might that happen?

Dan Jaffee

Management

Thank you, Ethan. I appreciate the question. And I would argue that it's already happening. We're seeing tremendous growth in this business. There are markets like North America that we are really have only been in for about a year and a half now. So we obviously expect North America to continue to grow very rapidly and at the highest CAGR of any of our business. We also are seeing pretty significant rebound now in Asia as those economies recover and again a continually strong performance in LATAM. So we expect the next couple of years to be reflective of what we've seen over the last year with strong growth in this business and continued use of our products by all species within these industries.

Leslie Garber

Management

Thank you. Our next question comes from John Bear from Ascend Wealth and Advisors, and he asks, do you plan to increase advertising spending at a comparable rate as was seen in fiscal 2023 and in first quarter of 2024? Is your primary focus on retail consumer or B2B, and what product lines are you primarily focusing on? Chris?

Chris Lamson

Management

Thanks, Leslie, and thanks, John. The strong majority of the advertising spending that you see goes against the consumer business. That's not to say that the B2B business doesn't really kind of scale their sales platforms through some really good marketing as well. But the majority within consumer and I think we've spoken to this in the past. We spent pretty heavily in Q4. We hadn't been spending prior to that for a couple of good reasons. Primarily, we were in kind of a bit of a global supply malaise. We came out of that and started spending in Q4 against the new platforms that you just saw. I was a little happy as we were playing some catch-up. Q1 this year is pretty predictive of what you'll see going forward and at the level as we look at our ROIs we like.

Leslie Garber

Management

Great, thank you. The next question comes from Robert Smith [indiscernible] Performance Investing. And he asks, since R&D is the lifeblood of future long-term growth, do you plan a commensurate increase in this area to reflect your new earnings level? Also, in this respect, how do you measure its productivity?

Dan Jaffee

Management

Thank you, Bob, for your question. And yes, I mean, R&D is the lifeblood of our future and our past and our present growth. So our mission statement, as you long-time investors know, is creating value from sorbent minerals. And layered on top of that is a real commitment to playing what we call [miny] (ph) ball, which is our version of money ball, which is getting the data and trying to make fact-based decisions on where do we have a competitive advantage and where do our customers value us the most and trying to lean into there and likewise then walking away from things where we just don't provide the value and frankly there could be another supplier somewhere who could better serve that customer. And the only way to then hang on to those customers is through low margins, which isn't healthy for the long term. So how do we measure it is ultimately through the value that we're deriving from the minerals we're selling. So you've heard me talk about this before, but it's really startling and well worth repeating. Back in 2001 when the company was not doing very well, we maxed out with over a million tons sold, but our average selling price was just $156 a ton, so we generated $161 million in sales, and our gross profit was only $28 a ton, so we had $29 million of gross profit. This last full fiscal year in 2023 we grew from that $161 million to $413 million. Our gross profit per ton jumped from $28 to $127 a ton. So almost 6 times -- well, 5 times the growth. And remember, we did a million tons back in 2001. We only did 811,000 tons 20 something years later. And that's this commitment to value based selling. So a lot of times you guys see less -- I mean our top line is growing anyway, but a lot of times you see it as maybe not as good as it could be, but it's really a conscious decision to walk away from unprofitable business. And to put this momentum in perspective, so while that was a record for us in F 2023, average selling price of $509 a ton up from $156 20 years ago, it was $562 in the first quarter. And again, that GP per ton from $28 a ton up to $127 was $156 in the first quarter. So that's how we measure it. I mean, we are clearly creating value. Yes, we believe, and we believe there's many different ways to achieve that value. It is through products, pricing, and performance, but it's also very much with the service that we provide. So we know that all close to a thousand teammates globally are helping contribute towards delivering value to our customers every day, and we're very appreciative of that, and our customers are too. So thanks for a great question and we take this very, very seriously.

Leslie Garber

Management

Okay, the next question is from John Bear. He says Amlan International's top line growth was attributed to the sale of existing inventory to the company's master distributor in China. How does this affect current and projected near-term sales to this master distributor as they sell down the inquired inventory? Wade?

Wade Robey

Analyst

Yeah, thank you, Leslie, and thank you, John. Yeah, This was an activity that happened specifically in China with the establishment of our master distributor. Obviously, this was a big part of the restructuring of the business, and important for us to conclude to be able to move that product from Amlan ownership in China to that distributor for sale in the market. As you might imagine, in those warehouses that we maintained, we had a mix of products, and we also had some products to some of our largest customers that were in fairly low inventory. So that master distributor, while selling down the products currently, is also already ordering various of the products that are replenishing what they need to service the market. And we're seeing some of our key customers there, especially in the dairy sector, grow so significantly that is exceeding our expectations. So we expect all that volume to be consumed this year, fairly early in the year, and we're seeing orders already to replace that transfer of inventory.

Leslie Garber

Management

Thank you. The next question is from Ethan Starr. Last quarter there was mention of two new Amlan products. Are you able to tell us more about those at present?

Wade Robey

Analyst

Yes, Ethan, thank you. And as we've talked about in other sessions, the sale cycle can be fairly long in this industry. Those two products were launched this past year. They are both in trials currently. The first one I'll mention is the [indiscernible] product, which we sell internationally as a natural anti-coxidial. It's actually been in direct field trials now for about seven months with one of the largest integrators in the world. That trial is performing well. We hope for it to conclude sometime in the spring. They're going to basically run a full year trial utilizing the product. So while that's a little bit lengthier than sometimes happened, it is indicative of a long sale cycle. The second product in Neutropet, we sell a similar product in the United States called [Amsher] (ph). That product is entering trials right now. We expect a little bit shorter cycle with that, and we hope to have sales sometime in the springtime of that product to some of the largest U.S. Integrators. So excited about those products, but we are still working through field trials on both of them. That will conclude shortly.

Leslie Garber

Management

Okay. Thank you. We have another question from John Baer. Any comments on the company's pursuit of an outlook on the M&A landscape?

Dan Jaffee

Management

Thanks, John, for your question. And look, capital allocation is a major focus for the management team and the board of directors. And as we continue to repair our margins, we are generating cash, which is great. And then how are we going to use that cash? First and foremost, it's investing in our people, in our plants, in our processes. As we're delivering more value and as our customers are demanding more value, it puts more pressure on our processes. So what was acceptable five years ago from a quality standpoint will not be acceptable in five years, and we have to stay ahead of that curve. So clearly reinvesting in our plants and our people is number one. Obviously maintaining and growing the dividend is a major use of our capital. We've raised the dividend 20 years in a row. And as I somewhat facetiously, but not totally always joke, my sisters, I like to be invited to family picnics and so forth, so keeping that dividend healthy and growing is important to me and my sisters and all shareholders, seriously. And so, very proud of our record there and want to keep that up. Stock buybacks could be a piece of the equation, and certainly we have an authorization to do that if and when we feel it's opportunistic and the use of cash is right for that. And then finally is our M&A activity, and that one will be very narrowly focused on our mission, creating value from sorbent minerals. So you will not be seeing us get into semiconductors or anything like that any time soon. So when opportunities come up within that mission, we will be very aggressive, and we have been. We have made numerous acquisitions over the years, and we will continue to vet them as they come forward and fortunately have a lot of debt capacity if we needed it and are generating cash. So yes, M&A will definitely be a part of our growth strategy, but it's not like we're going to make deals just to make deals. So we will be very opportunistic and they will be bolt-ons. They will not be tangential jumps into different areas that we're not familiar with.

Leslie Garber

Management

Okay. One more from John Baer. He asks, what gives you confidence that the B2B sales trend seen in quarter one of fiscal 2024 can or will continue throughout fiscal 2024? Bruce, do you want to take that?

Bruce Patsey

Management

Sure. And very good question. Thank you for the question. As I talked about the renewable diesel business, these plants are very large. And they're pulling in a lot of different type of oils and different feedstock oils. Vegetable oil being one of them and soybeans is a big crop that is going to continue to grow to feed this industry and just to feed the general growth of the vegetable oil industry. As they produce oil from soybeans they produce a lot of protein that gets sold into the different applications for feeding animals. So all of our B2B businesses relate to the ag industry. And with all this growth that's going on in the marketplace, it's clear that there's going to be continued growth in our businesses through this fiscal year and beyond based on what's happening right now and the growth of this business.

Dan Jaffee

Management

Great. Thank you, Bruce. And before we conclude, just general comments on the economy and how it relates to our ability to compete. I'm reading the articles, and inflation, while it is toning down, is still well north of where the Fed wants it to be. Most recent CPI was up for a little over 4%. They're always targeting for 2%. And so while it's slowing down and the slope is getting less, it still is here. And so we will have to continue to be focused and diligent on making sure that we pass along the cost increases as we incur them that are outside of our control. We are doing very well with our own efficiency. But there are plenty of things that are outside of our control that would impair our ability to give our customers the value and the quality and the service that they demand and that they deserve. So just mindful of that. And we'll see how it goes going forward. I am very happy that I don't see a recession. I would have predicted one and I would have been wrong, but I'm glad to be wrong on that front. So thank you very much. As you can see, the fiscal 2023 was literally our best fiscal year ever, and we're off to a great start in fiscal 2024 and while this is a forward-looking statement I will just say I hope fiscal 2024 turns out to be even better than fiscal 2023. Let's keep our fingers crossed, but hope isn't a strategy and what is a strategy is everyone pulling together all thousand of us to make it happen and I'm very supportive and confident of the team. So thank you for your support as a loyal shareholder. And we'll look forward to talking to you again after the second quarter.

Operator

Operator

The meeting has now concluded. The meeting has now concluded. Thank you for joining and have a pleasant day.