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Oil-Dri Corporation of America (ODC)

Q4 2013 Earnings Call· Tue, Oct 15, 2013

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Executives

Management

Daniel S. Jaffee - Chief Executive Officer, President, Director and Member of Executive Committee Reagan Culbertson Daniel T. Smith - Chief Financial Officer and Vice President Douglas A. Graham - Vice President, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary

Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the fourth quarter Oil-Dri conference call. My name is Esteban, and I will be your operator for today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host for today, Dan Jaffee, President and Chief Executive Officer. Please proceed, sir.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Thank you, Esteban, and welcome, everyone, to the fiscal year end fiscal 2013 teleconference. With me here in Chicago is Dan Smith, our CFO; Doug Graham, our Vice President and General Counsel; and Reagan Culbertson. I always forget if it's her maiden name or married name, Reagan Culbertson, who handles all of our IR, and she will do the Safe Harbor.

Reagan Culbertson

Analyst

Thank you, Dan. Welcome, everyone. On today's call, comments may contain forward-looking statements regarding the company's performance in future periods. Actual results in those periods may materially differ. In our press release and our SEC filings, we highlight a number of important risk factors, trends and uncertainties that may affect our future performance. We ask that you review and consider those factors in evaluating the company's comments and in evaluating any investment in Oil-Dri stock. Thank you for joining us.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Thank you, and Dan, why don't you walk us through the quarter and year end?

Daniel T. Smith

Analyst

I will do that. Thanks, and good morning to everyone. Oil-Dri ended fiscal 2013 with record sales and record earnings. For the second year in a row, our annual sales established a new record for the company. We reported full year sales of about $251 million, which were up about 4% from fiscal '12. Our fourth quarter sales were also up about 4%. International sales, which seems to be a hot topic on the online message boards, were up slightly in fiscal '13 to about 22% of our total sales from approximately 20% in fiscal '12. Our EPS of $2.07 per fully diluted share shattered our previous high of $1.33 reported in fiscal 2009. Earnings for the full year were significantly impacted by the utilization of approximately $1.4 million of domestic AMT tax attributes. Utilization of these attributes drove our tax rate down to 16.6% versus the 27.1% in fiscal '12. However it's our current expectation that our tax rate for fiscal '14 will return to more historical levels. Our earnings for the quarter were $0.67, compared favorably to the small loss reported in fiscal -- fourth quarter fiscal '12. If you all remember, we recorded a pretax capacity rationalization charge of $1.6 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal '12. Our gross profit margin increased 26.5% from 24.5% for the full year despite increased prices in natural gas we use in our manufacturing processes and increased freight costs. Our gross profit margin of 25.2% for the quarter was down slightly from the fourth quarter gross profit in fiscal '12. In the B2B area, our B2B team had solid sales and contribution growth for both the quarter and the full year. Sales increased 17% for the quarter and about 9% for the full year. Our animal health and Fluids Purification…

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Dan. Thanks for a very positive report. And Esteban, at this time, I'd like to open up the Q&A line. And I'd like to encourage everyone to prioritize your questions. Ask your most important question first, and then pause a little bit and let's let everyone have a chance to ask 1 unique question. And then once we're done with that, then we'll go for repeats from callers. So, Esteban, let's open it up.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] It looks like our first question comes from Ethan Starr [ph].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I'm just hoping you could please add more color to the statement that you expect a strong topline growth in fiscal 2014 in the Retail and Wholesale segment and most of all can you please discuss the new leadership in the consumer division, as well as the new competition from Tidy Cats LightWeight litter.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

That sounds like 3 questions but, okay, we'll put it all under the umbrella of the Consumer Products division. We've been investing heavily. We've launched new products. We're continuing to market. We've hired an additional sales team. We've revamped our broker network. For all these reasons, we've got to delivery. We expect to deliver incremental sales growth in the consumer area. So talk is cheap. We got to deliver. Let's see what happens. But that was the driving force behind those comments in the quarterly release. And talked about new leadership, very happy to have Paul Ziemnisky on board. I encourage you to read the release we put out covering his career, but he's got a long time consumer packaged background, marketing, general administration. So he's hit the ground sprinting, which is great, and leading our team and our new fiscal year. And did you ask about the new lightweight litter? I think you did.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

No, the competition from Tidy Cats LightWeight?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes. From our vantage point, that's great news. We've been trying to get the ball rolling for years on getting cat litter denominated by volume, not by weight. We all know consumers use it by volume. They don't weight in 8, 9, 10 pounds. But by selling it by weight and putting price per pound on the shelf, really the Department of Weights and Measures unwittingly has encouraged manufacturer deception. They've sort of encouraged manufacturers to densify their litter, put heavy, heavy, heavy stuff in there so that 25 pounds can be look like 25 pounds even though it's much smaller anecdotally. Anecdotally, we were the exclusive supplier to one of the major warehouse clubs. You can go back in our OR [ph] and figure out who for years. We sold them a 22-pound pail of Lasting Pride. And it was in a 5-gallon pail. So the consumer was getting 5-gallon volume of litter. They threw us out 15 years ago because they got a much cheaper price for a 28-pound pail. And so they were pissed because here they were getting 6 more pounds and at a lower price. So they were angry at us. What they -- we tried to explain to them, which they frankly didn't seem to care too much about, was that the volume plummeted from 5 gallons to 3.5. So the consumer was getting 30% less litter, and they were only getting a little bit of a discount on price. They were just doing it on a per-pound basis. So frankly, they weren't doing anything good. And the consumer was absolutely getting hammered. So as you know, we launched Fresh & Light a couple of years ago because from everything we can see, calcium bentonite is absolutely the best raw material for cat litter.…

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And I would guess the -- also, their litter sounds so light, it probably tracks a lot, too, I'm guessing.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

We believe there's such a thing as too light. And if you get below 30 pounds a cubic foot, 32 pounds a cubit foot, you start encroaching on the too light. And there's is well south of that. So we agree with you that the tracking over time is going to be a real problem for that litter.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Robert Smith [ph].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

So I figured that you have got about a $0.23 -- not to work with, to get back to the starting point based on the more traditional tax rates for the new fiscal year, anyway, but that's how I figured it from $1.84 to $2.07. My question focuses on Amlin's Calibrin-Z. And I think you mentioned -- we've discussed in the past this point that you have possibilities of expanding the market greatly, and that the results, whether this happens or not, will be palpable, so to speak, and maybe 18 months or so. My question is, can you give me a little more color as to what this involves? I mean, what essentially are you going for? Is it regulatory? And what's -- how do I get my arms around this? I'd appreciate anything you could tell me, Dan.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes, and I think we put out news releases, so I encourage you to check the web. But we're opening an office in China. This will be our really first foreign solely committed to the animal health business entity. We're in the process right now. We've leased our space. We're now getting all the paperwork registration done. That's going to take a while. We're -- management is physically going to relocate there. And the goal is to hire and do business directly as an entity in China. And so that's, to us, a very exciting turn of events. And it's the largest animal health market and growing. So it's where you want to be.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

But is that what you were speaking of?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

I mean...

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I mean it's a broad spectrum, so I thought it had something to do with regulatory whatever, but it's a geographical question?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

In the immediate, yes. That's what you're talking about. Over the next 18 months, that's where the growth is coming from.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And you actually spoke of sort of multiples where the product is at the moment.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

We're hoping it continues, absolutely. I mean, as you know, I'm not going to give you any specific specifics. I know you'd be...

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

No. I just wanted to nail this, that this is what we've been talking about.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes. The continued expansion and investment and growth of our Amlin animal health business.

Operator

Operator

It looks like, currently, there are no other questions. I apologize there is 1 question -- 1 more question from Ethan Star [ph].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. I guess despite the great results can't get other people to join the call, but I have several other questions. Can you give us the average price per ton, revenue per ton for the year?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes. We've disclosed that, haven't we?

Douglas A. Graham

Analyst

I have it.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Doug, thumbs up on price per ton.

Douglas A. Graham

Analyst

We typically disclose it as part of the annual shareholder's meeting in your performance package.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

So do you have any problem with me talking about it today? Okay. So to give you a little trend line, just because it's fun to look at the trend line. So what I have with me, here, about 6 years of data. So in fiscal '08, it's 2 26, then 2 44. It held at 2 44, that was, as you'll recall, when we went through a project comeback. Then 2 61 fiscal '11, 2 85 in fiscal '12, and we were at 3 05 for fiscal '13.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Wow, quite impressive. Okay. And I'm curious, why do you have 2 different figures in your -- in the press release for 2013 CapEx?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

I knew you'd find that. It's because Dan wanted to make sure you're reading it.

Daniel T. Smith

Analyst

The $9.8 million value is correct. The other 1 is the difference between accrual in cash, and the cash number is correct, it's the $9.8 million.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And in -- the 10-K it says the 2014 CapEx spending will be higher than 2013, do you have a number for the budget that you can disclose or not?

Daniel T. Smith

Analyst

We typically don't give that kind of expectation. We usually indicate it's going to be higher or lower. And that's usually as far as we go.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Well, in the past 10-K I do recall seeing a number but, well, I can wait until next year on that. So which of the cat litter products are being cannibalized by the strong growth in Fresh & Light sales?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Looking at the IRI, our traditional Cat's Pride Scoopable clearly has suffered some cannibalization. It's positive cannibalization in that we're growing by more on Fresh & Light and the sales price and margins for us are better. It allows us to better support that brand through marketing. So it's a good switch from our standpoint. But I would say that was the item. We budgeted for that, and it's probably been about what we expected. So yes, Cat's Pride Scoopable, probably the big one.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And last quarter I think you mentioned like 5 areas, 5 channels which you weren't in yet and you got -- you sold one of them with Dollar General, and 2 of them are clearly Target and the club stores. Can you tell us, what are the other 2 you're looking to fill with cat litter products?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

I don't think so. I think we'll pass on that one just because we don't need to tip the competition as to where we're going. Those ones you mentioned are obvious, and I'd rather leave it at that.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Sure. Okay, that's fine. What's new in R&D? And your R&D spending increased about 30% last year.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes. I mean, that's the beauty. And that's how we're getting the incremental sales per ton as we've been plowing money more and more and more in R&D. The only conversations I ever have with them is hire more and spend more. And that's what they've been doing. So part of that incremental spending was on pure exploratory science, where we for the first time hired scientists who aren't even assigned to a division. They're just doing basic research on our minerals to try and figure out other things they might be able to do. And it's been exciting. They're findings stuff, nothing commercializing any time in the near future or short term anyway, but all helping us for the long term. So as you know, our mission is creating value from sorbent minerals and the better we understand our mineral, the better chance we have of creating that value.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Sure. So they're finding things that are totally unknown before?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes, yes, kind of really cool stuff.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay, sounds good. Which products accounted for the increased dollars in foreign sales in the last year?

Daniel T. Smith

Analyst

Our foreign sales are derived basically in 3 areas. There are foreign operations, which we disclosed in footnote #3. That's the Canadian office and the U.K. office. And then we also sell quite a bit of both animal health and Fluids Purification business overseas, so...

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes. And the latter 2 really drove the growth.

Operator

Operator

We do have questions from Robert Smith [ph].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

So just circling back, Dan, to this question of Calibrin. So I recall that you said something to the effect that the Holy Grail really is, down the road, the possibility of this replacing antibiotics. I mean isn't -- didn't you make such a statement?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Sure. I am and that still is.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. So that would essentially be more than just a question of geography. It's a question of how the product is used as far as this penetration goes?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. So that's still out there, so to speak?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Absolutely.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And if that's so, what has to happen, so to speak, to make that come -- become a reality?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Well, I think it's...

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Is it the return of the use of antibiotics in the food supply?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Sure. I mean, so if you draw -- if you plot today and go out in time, do you believe that the pressure to get away from antibiotics in the food chain is going to stay the same, decline, or go up?

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I think it's going to go up.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

I do, too. So okay, over time, then you're going to have more and more pressure to get out of it. And as we're launching and continuing to expand acceptance of our products, and a large part, the selling proposition is this: It's a nonantibiotic solution to a currently, in many areas, antibiotics solution. And so that -- our continued launch is going to go up and up and up. So it's just time and effort. I mean...

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

So let me ask you this, in the natural foods sector, essentially, is all that being produced with either your product or something else instead of antibiotics? I mean, what kind of a read can you can give me on that?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes. I'm not qualified to answer that question. So I'd have to get our animal health guys...

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. But it's a valid observation, I mean?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes. It is, I'm just not -- I mean, I can make something...

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. So then, you could say in a way that you may be the direct -- a direct beneficiary of the trend to eating healthy and natural foods.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Yes, I mean because ours is a natural solution, but it's -- that's a stretch in a sense of it...

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Well, why would it be a stretch, I mean?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

I don't know.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Anyway, let's think about it.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

I'm not qualified. Bob, I'm not qualified to answer the question.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay, all right. So maybe you can, I guess, lean on someone and get back to me as to what an answer might be. What can you tell me about unit labor costs?

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

I'm afraid I can't tell you anything about unit labor costs. I don't know. Doug or Dan, you want to tell him anything about unit labor costs? I don't think we disclose any information.

Daniel T. Smith

Analyst

No. We don't disclose anything like that.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

So nothing. I'm not telling you anything about unit labor costs.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I'm interested just in trend.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Well, what do you mean? What are you interested in?

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I'm interested in productivity.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

I mean, I track stuff like net sales and gross profit and net income per employee, but I don't know that we ever disclose that stuff. But generally, it moves in line with the profitability of the company. So you can generally assume we're more productive today than we were 5 years ago.

Daniel T. Smith

Analyst

Yes, I mean, Robert, you got the sales number. I think we disclosed the number of employees. You can take A divided by B.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Right. That's pretty much what to do.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. The stock buyback program, where is that?

Daniel T. Smith

Analyst

No buybacks this year.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

Right there's authorized shares but no activity.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. How many shares left? About...

Daniel T. Smith

Analyst

I believe it's disclosed in the 10-K. Over 250,000 authorized buyback.

Daniel S. Jaffee

Analyst

All right, Esteban, I think we're pretty much out of time, so I'm going to thank everybody for your interest and support. And we'll talk to you again in 90 days-ish. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.