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Optical Cable Corporation (OCC)

Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Mon, Jan 27, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Maria, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Optical Cable Corporation Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2019 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Mr. Palash, you may begin your conference.

Aaron Palash

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Good morning, and thank you all for participating on Optical Cable Corporation’s fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 conference call. By this time, everyone should have a copy of the earnings press release issued earlier today. You can also visit www.occfiber.com for a copy. On the call with us today are Neil Wilkin, President and Chief Executive Officer of OCC; and Tracy Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. The actual future results of Optical Cable Corporation may differ materially due to a number of factors and risks, including, but not limited to, those factors referenced in the forward-looking statements section of this morning's press release. These cautionary statements apply to the content of the Internet webcast on www.occfiber.com as well as today's call. With that, I'll turn the call over to Neil Wilkin. Neil, please begin.

Neil Wilkin

Analyst

Thank you, Aaron, and good morning, everyone. I will begin the call today with a few opening remarks. Tracy will then review the fourth quarter and full-year results for the 3-month and 12-month periods ended October 31, 2019 and some additional detail. After Tracy's remarks, we will answer as many of your questions as we can. As is our normal practice, we will only take questions from analysts and institutional investors during the Q&A session. However, we also offer other shareholders the opportunity to submit questions in advance of our earnings call. Instructions regarding such submissions are included in our press release announcing in time of our call today. Before we get to the results, I want to take this opportunity to reflect on where OCC is as a company and why we believe OCC's future is so bright. Optical Cable Corporation is uniquely positioned in the fiber optic and copper cabling and connectivity industry with core strengths and capabilities which are valuable assets. For decades OCC used its core strengths and capabilities to grow sales and successfully compete against a host of much larger competitors by offering top-tier products and application solutions. Often OCC competes with different larger competitors in OCC's different targeted markets. OCC's core strengths and capabilities include: first, OCC has enviable market positions, brand recognition as well as the loyalty and relationships with customers, decision-makers and end-users across a broad range of targeted markets, include [technical difficulty], industrial, mining, oil and gas, broadcast, military and other harsh environment and specialty markets. Second, we’ve a broad and diverse [geography] [ph]. OCC sells into approximately 50 countries every year. Third, OCC has extensive industry experience and expertise. Our engineering, sales and business development [indiscernible] for their product and application experience and expertise that enables OCC to create its…

Tracy Smith

Analyst

Thank you, Neil. Consolidated net sales for fiscal year 2019 were $71.3 million, a decrease of 18.8% compared to net sales of $87.8 million for fiscal year 2018. Consolidated net sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019 were $18.2 million, a decrease of 10% compared to net sales of $20.3 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2018. The decrease in net sales when comparing the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 year-over-year is a result of a number of large orders from one customer in the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2018 that did not recur at the same level in the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019. Net sales to this customer decreased $2.6 million and $19.9 million respectively in the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019. Consolidated net sales to all other customers increased 3.5% during the fourth quarter and increased 5.7% in fiscal year 2019 compared to the same period last year, excluding net sales from this one customer from all periods. Turning to gross profit. Gross profit was $18.3 million in fiscal year 2019 compared to $27.9 million in fiscal 2018. Gross profit margin or gross profit as a percentage of net sales was 25.7% in fiscal 2019 compared to 31.7% in fiscal 2018. Gross profit was $4.9 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to $6.7 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2018. Gross profit margin was 27.1% in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to 32.9% in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2018. During fiscal year 2019, we experienced significant reduction in gross profit margins primarily as a result of unintended throughput constraints and inefficiencies that experienced in our Roanoke production facility, particularly in the first quarter of the year. These throughput constraints and inefficiencies resulted from the…

Neil Wilkin

Analyst

Thank you, Tracy. Now if you have any questions, we're happy to answer them. Operator, if you could please indicate the instructions for our participants to call in any questions they may have, I would appreciate it. Again, we are only taking live questions from analysts and institutional investors.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And I'm not showing any audio questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Neil Wilkin.

Neil Wilkin

Analyst

Thank you. Aaron, are there any questions that were submitted by individual investors in advance to today's call?

Aaron Palash

Analyst

Yes, Neil. I do have a few questions submitted advance -- in advance of the call by non-institutional shareholders. I would be happy to read them off here.

Neil Wilkin

Analyst

Okay.

Aaron Palash

Analyst

So the first, congratulations on 5.7% growth in total net sales in core targeted markets in FY 2019. Do you expect similar growth in FY 2020?

Neil Wilkin

Analyst

While we are not -- we don’t provide any specific guidance. However, we have said this year and we’ve talked about it earlier on the call that we do expect sales for fiscal year 2020 in total to be higher than net sales for fiscal year 2019.

Aaron Palash

Analyst

Great. The second question, can you disclose your backlog or forward log as of October 31, 2019?

Neil Wilkin

Analyst

While as we've noted on the call already, we do expect that sales in the first quarter to be weaker, partly due to seasonality as we are seeing some delay in some pending projects from customers. And we also expect to see our net sales for the entire year to be higher than last year. I think that covers the question.

Aaron Palash

Analyst

Okay, great. Next question. At this point are the unintended throughput constraints and inefficiencies experienced in the Roanoke production facility largely in the past? Can you quantify the throughput improvements in efficiencies you expect and can you elaborate on the nature of the problems and when they will be fully solved?

Neil Wilkin

Analyst

Okay. There is a number of parts to be addressed there. I think that, first, while we haven't specifically separately quantified the impact, what we can say is that the impacts that we saw were reflected in our gross profit margin largely related to production at our Roanoke facility and those are reflected in our financials, and so you can see as you look from quarter-to-quarter and year-to-year the impact on the gross profit margin. We do believe that we’ve largely addressed the issues, but we do continue to focus on further improving our production efficiency and throughput. However, I think it is important to realize that OCC's operating leverage is significant. And so when sales volumes are lower, gross profit tends to be lower as fixed costs remain a factor. Similarly, when sales volumes are higher, gross profits tend to be higher as fixed costs are spread over higher sales. And so the percentage change in sales disproportionately impacts the percentage change in bottom line profitability.

Aaron Palash

Analyst

Okay. Next we’ve have a series of questions on the Pinnacle credit agreement. Has it been moved to special assets? In the press release, does the phrase refinancing the revolver by March 31, 2020 suggest refinancing with Pinnacle, or at a different financial institution? Similarly, would the borrowing portion of the commitment letter be through Pinnacle or at a different financial institution? And finally, can you talk about the equity commitment and what that means with respect to the issuance of OCC shares?

Tracy Smith

Analyst

I will take that one, Aaron. Pinnacle Bank has indicated their interest in OCC's securing an alternative source of financing to replace the revolving loans that OCC has with Pinnacle Bank, which is set to expire on June 30, 2020. We are in the process of seeking alternative financing sources for our revolving loan, and at this time, we are able to secure alternative financing for our revolving loan on or before June 30, 2020.

Aaron Palash

Analyst

Great. Last question. Do you expect to have an issue with any covenants at the end of Q1 fiscal year 2020?

Tracy Smith

Analyst

In our annual report filing that will be filed by tomorrow, we describe our covenants in more detail. We’ve a constructive relationship with our bank and they have been willing to work with us when we’ve had covenant violations, particularly since some of the violations have been created by the classification of the revolver balance as current as opposed to non-current which is how it was classified originally.

Aaron Palash

Analyst

Got it. That was the last question.

Neil Wilkin

Analyst

Are there any other questions? Then there is no other questions, Aaron?

Aaron Palash

Analyst

No. Good to go.

Neil Wilkin

Analyst

Okay. Well in closing, then I would like to thank -- first thank our team of dedicated employees who've worked tirelessly to overcome the challenges we had experienced this last year. I'm deeply grateful for the hard work and contributions and mindful that their efforts are essential to the success of our customers and to OCC. I would also like to thank everyone for listening to our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 conference call today. As always, we appreciate your time and your interest in Optical Cable Corporation. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.