Sure, Ken. I mean let me talk to your first point, and then I'll address your second. On your first point, you said that you thought maybe better volumes in the first quarter were giving us a little bit better absorption, helping margins. And in fact, our volumes were effectively flat from the first quarter of 2013 to the first quarter of 2012. So all of the margin improvement that we're showing in the first quarter is really the spread between sale prices and input costs, which we think is very, very good news, and largely, that spread or margin derived from the fact that the winter discounts or the winter incentives this year were much more conservative than what we had provided last year. I think last year, we characterized them as being double-digit. This year, we -- I think on the fourth quarter call said, we thought they'd be mid single digits, really the difference between the level of discount last year to level of discount this year is what drove the improved margins in the first quarter. We're real happy to sell shingles in the first quarter, provided we do at good margins. So I think last year, it wasn't so much volume in the first quarter that bothered us, as that we had sold a lot of our annual volume in the first quarter at very, very low margins. I think this year, we sold a good amount of volume in the first quarter. We sold it at representatively good margins. As you look at how pricing works, I think I'll partially agree with your supposition that rising asphalt costs can be a catalyst for improved pricing, but so can demand and end-use market dynamics. So as we came into the second quarter, I think everyone begins to see asphalt costs come up as you come off of winter loads and some opportunity to buy a lower cost asphalt. So even today, in a fairly stable oil price environment, asphalt costs are going to push our economics a bit, and we feel fairly confident that the April 1 price increase that's out there is a good price increase and will help us cover cost inflation and help us continue to manage our margins. I think as you go beyond that, we've had some years where we saw very rapid oil price inflation and asphalt cost inflation, and that in fact, did create an impetus for further pricing actions. We would hope that this year what we would see is stronger reroof demand and stronger end market demand, which just created more pull from customers needing more shingles, which might support further pricing action. So I think this year, unless we see a big change in oil prices, it'll be the demand dynamics, which should help pricing and should help margin rates.