Craig Packer
Analyst · Truist Mark Hughes. We will move on to the next question. The next question comes from Kevin Fultz with JMP Securities.
Sure. We said this last quarter. I'd say, again, I think it's probably the best environment we've seen since we were a public company for new investments. Spreads remain elevated. Base rates are obviously high. In addition, we're getting very attractive OID upfront and higher-than-typical call premiums. So what does that mean? We're getting 12% to 13% on unitranche versus 7%, 7.5% a year ago. I don't want to throw this word around lightly, but I think that's pretty extraordinary to be able to earn 12% to 13% on first lien unitranche debt at 45% loan-to-value. I think it's extremely good value and the deals we're doing are of high quality as well. The businesses are of high quality. They're large and they're leaders in their fields. So -- and we're getting good documentation. So it's just across the board. The deals that we're doing, I think, are really, really attractive for the portfolio. And the funds that we manage that have more capital, we're doing as much as we can in those funds. So a great environment for direct lending, the trends, public to private is one driver of deal flow. Add-ons for existing portfolio companies is another. So when we see things that we like, we like them a lot. In terms of opportunities from the banking sector, I'm pretty balanced about this. I've been asked it a lot. I think that we do upper middle market, private equity-backed deals. That's generally not where we're competing with regional banks. We're generally competing with other direct lenders, and we're competing with the syndicated markets and the large banks that are arranging but not holding loans. That's what we compete with. So when the regional banks are pulling back, that's not really in our bread and butter. It stands to reason that these regional banks, if they're pulling back, that there may be companies who are non-sponsored companies that just have a harder time getting financing. And if there's any of them out there that are listening, you should give us a call and we'd love to talk to you. But I would say I don't expect a tremendous amount of that because regional banks are generally not doing non-investment-grade loans for the most part, those pockets. And the reason I say I'm balanced about it and cautious about it is because as regional banks pull back, it does impact the economy overall, and it impacts conditions for our portfolio of companies on who their customers are getting financing from regional banks. So there may be opportunities. I've seen others say this could be good for direct lenders. I'm going to take more of a wait-and-see approach on that and just see what is it going to do to the economy, but there may be select opportunities as well. We'll just have to see how it plays. Overall, I prefer a functioning banking system and a strong economy, and I hope we get to that.