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Nexstar Media Group, Inc. (NXST)

Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 8, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to Nexstar Media Group’s Third Quarter 2023 Conference Call. Today’s call is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Joe Jaffoni, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Joe Jaffoni

Management

Thank you, Shamali and good morning everyone. I’ll read the Safe Harbor language, and then we’ll get right into the call. All statements and comments made by management during this conference call other than statements of historical facts maybe deemed forward-looking statements for purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Nexstar cautions that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected by the forward-looking statements made during the call. For additional details on these risks and uncertainties, please see Nexstar’s annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2022 as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and Nexstar’s subsequent public filings with the SEC. Nexstar undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. With that, it’s now my pleasure to turn the conference over to your host, Nexstar Chairman and CEO, Perry Sook. Perry, please go ahead.

Perry Sook

Management

Thank you, Joseph, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you all joining us today to discuss Nexstar’s third quarter results. With me today on the call are Mike Biard, our President and Chief Operating Officer as well as Lee Ann Gliha, who is our CFO. Also here listening in and available for questions on what will be his final earnings call, Senior Advisor, Tom Carter. I’ll start with a summary of recent highlights and developments, followed by Mike’s operations review, and then Lee Ann’s financial review. Nextar third quarter financial results primarily reflect the year-over-year decline in cyclical political advertising as well as the net distribution revenue impact related to our successful negotiation with DIRECTV. It was a tough negotiation for both sides, but ultimately, we reached an agreement and are pleased with and which was consistent with our internal expectations. The agreement and all other distribution and network partner agreements reached year-to-date as well as our 2022 renewals were all completed in a manner that was for us, “business as usual” and recognition of the value that Nexstar brings to its partners. We expect favorable terms of those agreements as well as other upcoming renewals to drive continued high-margin distribution revenue growth in the coming periods. As has always been the case during contested negotiations, whether ours or others, there is a lot of noise and a time misinformation that’s put out to the public by those seeking to take advantage themselves by talking their own book. At Nexstar, we would like to deal in the realm of facts. That’s why we published a new investor deck on our website last month, and we hope you’ll have a chance to review it if you have not already. This data-driven report details the importance of broadcast television in the current…

Mike Biard

Management

Thanks Perry and good morning everyone. Given this is my first earnings call here, I thought it would be helpful to start with some brief comments on why I chose to join Nexstar. I have tremendous respect for what Perry and the Nexstar team, including Lee Ann and my inevitable predecessor, Tom Carter, have accomplished here. Over the course of my career, I’ve watched Nexstar’s scale to become a true media powerhouse with a record of exceptional financial performance and shareholder returns. Today, Nexstar’s mix of media assets provides both national reach and local activation at scale greater than anyone in the business. And while I was very happy at Fox and was not looking to leave the opportunity to come to Nexstar and participate in what the team has been building was something I could not pass up. What ultimately motivated me to join the company is the uniqueness of Nexstar’s business and positioning in the industry, which I believe give it the potential to achieve significant growth over the medium and long term, more so than any other player in the sector. And I’ve joined Nexstar in an exciting time. We are in the early stages of the company’s expansion into the network business and unlocking the meaningful upside potential of NewsNation and the CW. This aligns directly with my interests and what I can bring to the table, given my background in many years of executive experience at FOX. The move to convert WG in America, and as I know firsthand, the opportunity in cable news is material. The growth of NewsNation will be bolstered by the strong viewership of the news genre and capturing the audience comprised of the large Centrist majority of Americans who want fact-based journalism and do not feel well served by the…

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Mike gave you most of the details on the revenue side and on the CW, so I will provide a review of expenses, adjusted EBITDA and attributable free cash flow, along with some comments on our guidance given the impacts we saw this quarter. Together, third quarter direct operating and SG&A expenses, excluding depreciation and amortization, increased $47 million, primarily due to the inclusion of the CW. Increases in affiliation fees, increased compensation and healthcare costs, the expansion of local news as well as the expansion of our news programming at NewsNation and write-down of assets were offset in part by reduced variable costs related to lower revenue and promotion costs and even further offset in our adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow calculations by reduced programming costs at NewsNation related to reduced reliance on syndicated content. Q3 2023 total corporate expense was approximately $52 million, including non-cash compensation expense of $16 million compared to $52 million, including non-cash compensation expense of $17 million in the third quarter of 2022. Q3 2023 depreciation and amortization was $220 million versus $142 million in the prior year quarter due primarily to the acquisition of the CW. Please note that the CW’s programming costs, which are included in our definitions of adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow are accounted for in this line item as amortization of broadcast rights. For more information on this amount, please refer to the schedules in our earnings release. We received $8 million in Q3 distributions from equity investments related primarily to our 31% ownership in the TV Food Network, which represents a 27% decrease from the prior year quarter. Our Q3 distribution from TV Food Network is a tax-related distribution. The reduced amount reflects lower income at TV Food Network…

Tom Carter

Operator

Thanks Lee Ann, and good morning, everyone. This is my 57th and last earnings call with Nexstar. I’ll miss Nexstar and its great people and work environment. As I look back on what we’ve built and what is to come, I could not be more optimistic about the future of this business and the team we have put in place to take Nexstar to the next level. As you’ve gotten to know her over the last 2 plus years, you are in great hands with Lee Ann as CFO. As you may not know, but Lee Ann and I worked together at Bank of America prior to my joining Nexstar. So we have a long history together. And over time, she has been in the seat here, we have seen eye to eye on virtually every decision that we’ve made. And the transition to Mike Biard has been seamless. Mike’s DNA is cut from the same cloth as Nexstar and his skill set will be instrumental in leading Nexstar as the scaled industry provider it is going forward. I have poured all I have into this company. And at the end of the day, I’m ready to retire and spend more time with my wife, family and friends and enjoy the parts of life outside of Nexstar that I had missed. Thank you to the investors and analysts and the team at Nexstar for an incredibly positive 14 year plus. And most of all, to my colleague and friend, Perry Sook for this life-changing opportunity. Thank you, and best of luck to you all. And with that, I’ll open it up for calls – open up the call for questions. Operator, can you go to our first question, please?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Dan Kurnos with Benchmark. Please proceed with your questions.

Dan Kurnos

Analyst

Great. Thanks, good morning. And good to hear you on the call, Mike. Obviously, Tom, you will be missed as we said last time. I guess just maybe either for Mike or Perry, just on the deals that you guys have done, you listed them all, Mike, in your prepared remarks. Obviously, we saw the WWE NXT deal last night. I think I asked this question to a different degree last time, but how should we think about the combination, and you can take this in two parts of both incremental local deals as we continue to see those come online and we’ve gotten some diamond news recently as well that could sort of auger more positive news on that front as well as this kind of national network push. Like how do we think about that flowing through? And I know some of the deals don’t start until late ‘24 or ‘25. But just the monetization aspect of raising CPMs across the Board, expanding viewership. I guess, we’d like to get maybe a little bit of color on how impactful you expect those deals to be to the broader portfolio and then, frankly, just the impact to cash flow as you think about kind of the cadence of those deals coming online. Thanks.

Perry Sook

Management

Well, let me start, Dan, and then I’ll turn it over to Mike and Lee Ann to add color if that would be helpful. But obviously, when we when we conceive the acquisition of the CW in our mind’s eye, there were sports in our future. But really, if you look at the cadence of Live, NASCAR, WWE, ACC, these were opportunistic acquisitions of content for us. Each one of them has been modeled out to make money over the life of the agreement. And obviously, if it hadn’t, we wouldn’t have done the deal. But these are also deals that we think are value-creating in that as we go out to the affiliate base and subsequent renewal discussions, we’re providing the things that this distributors want and viewers want, which is obviously live sports, and it’s going to make up a good portion of our schedule. And we’ve also expanded our broadcast schedule to incorporate weekend afternoons now, which is a new daypart for the network to participate in and generate revenue and obviously, eyeballs. And we obviously love what sports does for the entertainment programming that airs that night following the broadcast. People tend to stay around and we’ve had some of our best improvements on night were sports was a lead-in to the entertainment slate. So again, we moved fast on these, and these came at us at a clip we had to be prepared to move very quickly, I think, to get these opportunities under the CW tent. And again, everyone has been modeled to make money and the way the rights fees, they increase over time. And so there’ll be a sliding scale on our way to profitability. But we believe these are important assets and value-creating assets for the network. And for our local stations, I can tell you when we brought LIV Golf, the local stations hit that hard. I mean, and had great success this past summer and fall, monetizing that at the local level. It was, hey, we never had sports before. We now have sports. You want to participate, you want to play and local was able to approach advertisers to buy sports so they had never had the same opportunity on the CW before or at that station. So all good. I think that from a macro level, but let me turn it over to Mike, and he can potentially – and Lee Ann can go a little further into the weaves if you’d like.

Mike Biard

Management

I think I’ll just add that the timing of the company investing in the CW at the national level and also increasing our CW affiliation at the local level is lining up perfectly with the trends that we’re seeing in the industry with rights holders seeking distribution on broadcast. I saw it last night in the news related to the Bally’s bankruptcy and the fact that the NBA has redone their deal through all the teams with Bally’s to carve out a 10-game package for broadcast. That was a telling little tidbit inside that deal. And what we’re seeing is it’s evidence of both at the national level, the deals being done and at the team level, the local deals being done. The search for reach that only broadcast can deliver is really ubiquitous and applies kind of at all levels right now. So we’re finding ourselves at the CW really well positioned, both in terms of ownership of the network and also ownership of the stations at the local level and then with our affiliates being able to leverage that demand for broadcast at a perfect time.

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

And I would just say, as Perry said, we’ve modeled all of this out to be consistent with what we’ve communicated previously. And life is never a straight line, but we’re working on it. And look forward to achieving what we said we could do.

Mike Biard

Management

I’ll just add that if you want to change viewership habits, it’s a difficult thing to do in the current environment, and there is really nothing like sports to do that. And as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, our first game on the CW, a place where college football fans never had a place to go ever did remarkably well, particularly given the fact that we acquired those rights relatively close to the beginning of the season, we didn’t have an opportunity to really market it the way we would like to and certainly not the way we will going into next year. So to develop that kind of muscle memory, both at the network and station level but in the minds of viewers to go there and look for that. There is nothing like sports programming and particularly the kind that you’ve seen us announce with the WWE and with NASCAR, we will have 52 weeks of WWE, 33 weeks of NASCAR to create that kind of habit and just pattern for viewers to go to the CW to look for that kind of programming. We couldn’t be more excited about it.

Dan Kurnos

Analyst

Got it. Super helpful. Lee Ann, can I just ask quickly on the free cash guide. Just on – I think rate curve is probably about half of the delta at the high end, a little less than that. You mentioned some other things. Is there any incremental granularity you can give us just around any of the moving pieces on the remainder of the delta?

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes. I mean, look, Dan, there is a lot of moving pieces in this number. So I can’t get sort of too far down the lead because there is a lot of things. But if you think about it as advertising market, its rate of attrition, it’s the impact of being dark on us being dark and our partners being dark that’s part of the – all that kind of gets together and put in the mix to get to the – in addition to interest expense, obviously, which you pointed out, which gets us to the number on the new range.

Dan Kurnos

Analyst

Got it. Alright, cool, fair enough. Thanks very much. Appreciate it, guys.

Perry Sook

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Barton Crockett with Rosenblatt Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Barton Crockett

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Great. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to, first, ask a little bit more clarity on the CW kind of outlook. So when you guys bought the CW, we’re talking to the cost really being the losses, which were put in the low nine figure or maybe around $100 million. Here, the first time months or free cash flow net is $159 million. It’s already in excess of that you’re talking to some more for next year, but you’re also talking to this being within kind of your previous communication. So I’m just wondering how those two things reconcile? Is it that maybe the initial losses are steeper, but the time to profit is faster and maybe the return on investment is this good or better? If you could give some more color on that that would be great.

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes. So, it sounds like you are on a train. I would say we said that the cumulative losses to the breakeven period of time we are going to be in the low-9 figures. We never said $100 million. That was never part of the guidance. I think that – we also provided some color in terms of our free cash flow guidance in the last period of time. I would say, obviously, since then, we have had an advertising market, especially on the national side that’s gone against us a bit. But we still are on track to continue to improve profitability. You saw what we have done year-to-date. We will improve that profitability next year and with the expectation that we are going to continue to get that benefit over time. The other thing I would mention is that, obviously, we only own 75% of this. So, you have to take those losses and multiply it by 75%. And then we get a tax benefit from those losses that at 26.5%, which also kind of bring down that number. So, when we are talking about our guidance initially, we are always quoting that on a free cash flow basis because that’s where we are focused. So, I would say we are still in that low-9 figures sort of strategy in terms of what we are thinking about. And I think you will continue to see those numbers. We have been very, very transparent about that and what those figures look like in our earnings release.

Perry Sook

Management

I just want to add that look at the things that have happened since we announced the acquisition of the CW, the three separate writer strikes in Hollywood and advertising recession, if you will, or people that pull back on advertising as a result of those writers strikes, Live, NASCAR, WACC are all absolutely value creating, value-building acquisitions of content for this network. None of that was contemplated in the initial view of the CW. So, I couldn’t be more bullish on the CW, where we are and where we are going and what we have been able to do to acquire this portfolio of sports rights literally in the first nine months is pretty extraordinary. I think an extraordinary opportunity that I think we took full advantage of. So – but obviously, a lot of things have moved around. The writers’ strike has Cox. The last purchase obligation we have from the former owners of content that we don’t believe is designed to make money. That now goes into next season because we weren’t able to exercise that this year and because the writers’ strike and aired out. So, there are a lot of moving parts, but I don’t think our view on the CW has changed. In fact, if anything, I am more confident given the content we have been able to put under contract in our ownership.

Mike Biard

Management

Absolutely. And I will just say that these sorts of things take time, right. We make the investment in the content and then you have to sort of work that through the system, not least of which is on the distribution side, both with respect to the affiliated stations and also directly with distributors on our own and operated stations. That sort of thing is being manifested in the deals that we are striking now and in the deals that will be to come, and we won’t see the benefits of that until – at the earliest ‘24.

Perry Sook

Management

And we absolutely see a path to profitability with this network. We are not going to name a month, a day and a quarter necessarily where that’s going to happen. But we said in the next couple of years here, we initially said by 2025, whether that moves a little bit forward or back, depending on these acquisitions, it will depend on how the economy does and how advertisers react and obviously, how the shows perform.

Barton Crockett

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. That’s very helpful. Thank you. Sorry for the background noise. But I appreciate your patience.

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Thank you, Barton.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Benjamin Soff with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Benjamin Soff

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Hey guys. Thanks for the question. One of the consequences of the Disney Charter deal that you guys talked about was that it might help subscriber declines going forward. It’s still early, obviously, to see anything from that deal. But I am just wondering what your views are around the pacing of subscriber declines from here? And if you think churn can moderate in the next year or 2 years at the industry level or if you think it will continue at a similar pace from here? And then secondly, I apologize if I missed this, but can you guys parse out the impact in the quarter from the DIRECTV blackout? Thanks.

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes. So look, I think from an attrition perspective, we believe that the Charter Disney deal will help attrition – the rate of attrition with re-bundling that DTC package into the overall charter offering, we think should help avoid people trading. And then also, we think you are just seeing it, the DTC bundle of services is becoming more and more expensive as subscriber costs or subscriber costs are going up and up and up. So, we think that, that will also be beneficial to the MVPD universe. And that should help over time. I mean we will see how quickly that can sort of come through the ecosystem, as you probably know, these contracts come up only every few years, and so it may take a little bit of time for that to happen. But we are very bullish on the ability for that to come into the future of the company. And then on the DIRECTV impact, we did parse that out on the call. Mike made a comment that said that in the third quarter, excluding the CW impact and basically assuming that we were – we took out from 2022, the same period of time that we were dark in DIRECTV and our partners were dark. We would have had distribution revenue that would have been up at 8.8% in the quarter.

Benjamin Soff

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Thanks for the color.

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Steven Cahall with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Steven Cahall

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you. So, just more on the re-trans and distribution comments. I think you started the year with guidance of up high-single digit to low-double digit. And as you just said, some things happened in the third quarter that were maybe a bit more unexpected and extended by Disney Charter. And if I am doing the math right on the guidance for the fourth quarter, it would seem like that maybe excluding the blackout, you would pretty much be in the guidance range for the year. So, I am curious if that’s correct, and that would imply that you matter exceeded the rate increases that you were looking to achieve. And now that that’s done, I am just wondering if DIRECTV and Cox helped you kind of set the stage heading into, I think another major distribution deal in December. But I am wondering if having two big distributors done kind of take some of the risk out of that. So, that’s the first one. And then, Mike, thank you for all the color on the ad market in the top 10 station ad market. We heard from Warner Bros. this morning that they are really not seeing any improvement. They are not necessarily expecting any in 2024. I am just wondering what your expectations are for the ad market from here. Are you seeing any green shoots, or do you think that those larger markets will remain where they are for the foreseeable future? Thank you very much.

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes. So, I will take that. So, I think on the distribution math that you have done, Steve, that’s spot on with what we are seeing. We feel like the deals that we have been able to achieve year-to-date are consistent with what our own internal expectations were. So, I think your math is good from that perspective. I think going into the remainder of our negotiations, we will just have to see how that plays out. I think we feel good about everything that’s happened to-date. It’s all been business as usual. I know there has been lots of questions about has that really truly been the case. And yes, it has really truly been the case. You can see that in our numbers. So, we expect more business as usual as we go forward, and we will just have to watch how that all plays out. With respect to advertising, I think Warner Bros. doesn’t really have like sort of the local station business that we do. Obviously, that’s the lion’s share of our advertising revenue. I think as we have talked about, we are seeing some, I guess green shoots in the sense that we are – our rate of decline in terms of our overall business is moderating. We saw that sequentially from second quarter to third quarter. And we are seeing it again in a similar fashion in terms of the amount in the third quarter going into the fourth quarter. So, we are feeling somewhat positive about all of that and look forward to that, hopefully, rectifying itself even further in 2024.

Steven Cahall

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Craig Huber with Huber Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Craig Huber

Analyst · Huber Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you. First question, more of a housekeeping question. What was your re-trans sub decline year-over-year? I think in recent quarters, you guys have said it’s down mid-single digits. Wondering if that held again in the latest period or maybe it’s a little bit worse.

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes. So, as Mike said in his commentary, we talked about our sub declines being in the low-single digits. And that is really – and that’s for the current period, and that’s really positively impacted by a few things that we were able to achieve, which was we got carriage for all of our CW, MyNetwork and independent stations on YouTube TV. And we also added a number of new CW affiliates in large markets, which got carriage as well. So, that positively impacted our subscriber attrition figures.

Craig Huber

Analyst · Huber Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Great. And then also on the outlook for advertising, can you maybe touch on what your outlook is for the auto category, please, both at the national level as well as the local best you can?

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes. Look, I mean I think from an auto perspective, we are continuing to see that be a positive year-over-year growth. I think we are getting into the period of time where we are having some tougher comps because we saw some of that improvement starting towards the end of last year, but we continue to see it be a positive factor for us.

Craig Huber

Analyst · Huber Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.

And then in the quarter, Lee Ann, obviously, you had the blackouts. Did you get any reprieve on the network compensation side of the expense side going against that at all with your four – big four network contracts?

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes. There is some impact on that, yes.

Craig Huber

Analyst · Huber Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.

You had – so that dollar number was less than what it would have been if you didn’t have the blackouts, the network comp side. I just want to make sure there is some confusion out there about that, but thank you.

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes. No problem.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Nick Zangler with Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question.

Nick Zangler

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question.

Hey guys. I was wondering if you could provide just any additional commentary on the upfront commitments that you mentioned in the press release. We have kind of just been hearing about weaker demand in general as advertisers have been looking for more flexibility this year. Curious if you are hearing the same thing or anything different? I know you guys have a bulk year offering this year. But – and just if so, if you are hearing that softness of that demand for flexibility, just whether or not that’s a leading indicator for into 2024 period?

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Yes. Look, I would say on the upfront side, we had a successful upfront. We added, I think, 47 new advertisers to the mix. We have the positive impact of News Nation being a very strong growing network from a ratings perspective. So, we had all of that from a benefit perspective. We sort of ended up on our upfront kind of where we thought we would be. Obviously, this is not a great overall upfront environment. You can just see all the reports about that. But that just means there is more of a scatter market, hopefully as the economy…

Perry Sook

Management

Well, I will just add, we were selling growth this year. So we did show growth in – vis-à-vis our plan and probably the most gratifying was the new advertiser relationships we established not only through the upfront, but then on a follow-on basis with sports. But I just want to caution, the CW News Nation and our other ancillary properties are bit players in the upfront. We are not going to move the market one way or the other. But we were one of the few entities out there selling growth and new opportunities. So, we did quite well. We were pleased with where we ended up. And obviously, we had a conscious effort to hold back inventory, taking there will be a more robust scatter market than laying down the majority of our inventory in the upfront.

Nick Zangler

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question.

Understood. That’s helpful. And then just on the virtual MVPD commentary that you guys provided. I think effectively, what you are simply suggesting is that on a net basis going forward, we really shouldn’t look at MVPDs or vMVPDs differently. You guys can extract similar economics regardless of the distribution channel, is that right?

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

I think what – yes, I think what we are saying is, at the end of the day, there is a lot of different components that go into our distribution revenue and our net distribution revenue, and as cash is fungible. So, there is different ways for us to make money. There is different ways for our partners to make money. And looking at these things in a vacuum really doesn’t – isn’t sort of instructive. I think the original commentary about those rates being lower was from one of our peers who was saying more of a positive thing, was like, look, we think there is opportunity to grow that. And what we have said and what will be our last comment on this is that we do expect to continue to be able to grow our net distribution revenue in the coming period as our contracts come up for renewal.

Nick Zangler

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question.

Great. Thanks so much guys. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.

Jim Goss

Analyst · Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you. Mike’s comments earlier on about the CW having similarities to Fox in the development stage, it does seem like a very reasonable comp. And I know sports would be one fetch way to emulate what they are doing. I am wondering if you might lay out other things you see that you might mimic as you go forward? And how important is the core lineup in primetime to anchoring the platform? And are there preemption restrictions to now own affiliates that you would be implementing?

Mike Biard

Management

Sure. I think the strategy overall is to make the CW more like a proper broadcast network, which is to say to anchor the programming with marquee tent-pole programming led by sports that we know from our experience, and we are starting to see actually play out will increase circulation across the network, raise its awareness. And as I said earlier, kind of develop that muscle memory among viewers as a place to come for programming that historically has not been there. I mentioned the pivot away from teen dramas really towards broad appeal of programming. So, I think what you are going to see in our primetime is really just that. We are going to take some swings across the board. We are going to do it in a disciplined way. I think Perry and the team here have used the term Moneyball, and we are going to continue to, I think follow that sort of rule of thumb, but we are going to try and program it with a broad appeal programming and anchored by sports that we think will generate a different level and a broader base of viewership than we have seen historically.

Jim Goss

Analyst · Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.

Is there a plan that you would take the 75% up to 100% at some point, or do the other parties seem interested in maintaining minority stake?

Lee Ann Gliha

Management

Look, as we have disclosed, there is quick call mechanisms for us to acquire that stake for them to put it back to us. So, there is an opportunity for that in the future. We will analyze that at the right time.

Jim Goss

Analyst · Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And the last thing, News Nation now a bonafide major network as you are saying. You built it to some extent on the broad platform you had. Are you thinking in terms of going the other way in terms of perhaps Sunday morning simulcast on either the CW network or on your network Nexstar-owned properties or even some news that you might implement.

Perry Sook

Management

We have had some conversations with affiliates about that. I would say that we are somewhat a victim of our own success there in that KTLA, CW affiliate in Los Angeles has a very successful morning show, early evening news Saturday, Sunday morning, weekends. Those are six-hour and seven-hour long broadcasts that are just ratings and revenue bellwethers. I don’t think that they are going to be necessarily interested in trading national for – or trading local for national. I think some of the less resourced CWs may be interested in some news connection with News Nation, but then it’s a question of what’s your return on that investment if you are missing the top 25 markets or something along those lines. That may be getting in the weeds a little bit. But at this point, I mean there may be opportunities to simulcast some big events like the – well, just I will leave it at that. But big events that to increase the reach and to allow people to sample the CW through a new venue, new kind of programming that might be of interest to them. So, I think I would leave it at that. I am not sure that there are plans that – well, I am sure that there are no plans afoot to put a nightly newscast on the CW using News Nation because, again, of the successful CW affiliates that have their own local. And this network and this company was founded on starting with local and what’s best for local and local stations, local broadcast and then build from there.

Mike Biard

Management

I will just add to that. I think that the pairing of the cable network with the broadcast network whether it’s for sports or news, really does put you in a different league, right. We have seen that historically with different companies, as Perry said, the opportunity to simulcast, whether it’s big events, breaking news, things like that really does put News Nation in a different category now that we have the CW and sample.

Jim Goss

Analyst · Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.

Alright. Thanks very much. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

And we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.

Perry Sook

Management

Alright. Well, thank you very much, operator. Before we wrap up, I would like to leave you with just a couple of final thoughts. As we discussed today, we feel that the Nexstar future is very bright. We have strong conviction in our business model, our growth opportunities and our competitive position in the marketplace. The volatility in Nexstar’s share prices, we do not believe is reflective of what’s going on fundamentally in our business. So, we are just going to keep executing and delivering to the shareholders. Over the last 12 months, we have delivered attributable free cash flow of over $1 billion, of which 95% or over $950 million was returned to shareholders in the forms of dividends or share repurchases. We have a clear set of objectives for creating the greatest long-term value for our shareholders. And obviously, as the top 10 shareholder myself, no one is more aligned with that commitment than I am. So, thank you all for joining with us today. We look forward to speaking to you again when we report our fourth quarter results in the New Year. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today’s conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.