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Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 12, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Elvis, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to NexGen Energy's Q3 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session at the end. [Operator Instructions Mr. Leigh Curyer, CEO and Director of NexGen Energy, you may begin your conference.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Thank you, Elvis. Welcome, and thank you all for joining NexGen Energy's Q3 2024 update and financial call. I'm Leigh Curyer, Chief Executive Officer of NexGen. I'm joined on today's call by Travis McPherson, Chief Commercial Officer; and Benjamin Salter, Chief Financial Officer. During this call, I will review our key achievements this quarter, including the latest updates from the nuclear industry as NexGen is witnessing tremendous broad-based support on the demand side with respect to the offtake of our future production. Further, we will provide updates on the regulatory approval process for the Rook 1 Project, which is advancing well and nearing conclusion, financial highlights and our ongoing exploration success at Patterson Corridor East announced this morning. Additionally, I'll provide an update on our sustainability and community initiatives, which remain at the core of our operations as well as the progress made on project development and project construction financing. Following this, we encourage questions and provide open lines for all participants on today's call. We will make forward-looking statements throughout the call. So please visit our website for the relevant disclaimers. This quarter marked a transformative shift in how technology leaders view nuclear energy, particularly c AI's unprecedented and insatiable power demands. The industry reached a pivotal moment this quarter with major tech leaders, including Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Meta and Oracle publicly recognizing nuclear energy as critical to their future operations and initiating significant financial deals at a premium to secure long-term power supply. Nvidia's CEO, Jensen Huang, whose company is at the forefront of AI development, has been especially vocal about the energy challenges ahead. He emphasized that AI workloads are now demanding power equivalents to that of small nations, creating unprecedented strain on traditional power grids and requiring nuclear energy to supply this growth. This new and…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Alex Pearce from BMO UK. Please go ahead.

Alex Pearce

Analyst

Great. Morning, Leigh. I was just hoping you could give us a little bit more detail on which areas within the review process is still under scrutiny. And then let's say, assuming the EIS is approved on the 19th, which I think is the next deadline, what's your current estimate of when you could get shovels in the ground for the main project? Thanks.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yeah, sure. So and Alex, good morning. We had an update as recently as late last week. There are no issues presented to us as we are currently made aware. We understand also that there's very few aspects left to conclude and that the CNSC is working very diligently on the conclusion of those aspects. Now as I've often stated, we are incredibly respectful of the process. And that's one of the reasons why we chose Canada because it's highly regulated and as uranium mining should be. But we are nearing the final conclusion of that. The 49 aspects that they required additional information on has been publicly released by the CNSC. But we are very, very confident based on that meeting last week that the process is nearing conclusion. And they'll be the first to notify the company when that occurs. From there, a commission hearing date will be set. And then the process is that it's 60 days for final signing by the Federal Minister, at which point after that, shovels will be able to go on the ground.

Alex Pearce

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, Leigh. And then maybe I can ask a second question, which is you flagged in your remarks, obviously, discussions with utilities are ongoing about future offtakes. We're seeing, at least from some of the reporting agencies, there's been a bit of a slowdown since, let's say, the WNA. I just wondered whether you can just talk about how you've seen discussions change over the last month. Are you also seeing a slowdown in terms of a need for future contracts?

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yeah. Look, Alex, I can only speak to what we're experiencing. We've - it's been quite the opposite. We're actively engaged on a number of offtake agreements with multiple utilities globally. So no, we personally haven't experienced that at all.

Alex Pearce

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Leigh.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Thanks, Alex.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Orest Wowkodaw from Scotiabank Toronto, Canada. Please go ahead.

Orest Wowkodaw

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. My questions are sort of more of the same as Alex's. Leigh, of the 49 sort of outstanding questions that were - that you mentioned earlier, how many of those are still outstanding as of today?

Leigh Curyer

Management

As of today, well, I can't tell you specifically which ones are outstanding, except to say that the CNSC have indicated that they're nearing conclusion of the process, and we have not been notified of any outstanding issues or seeking additional information as I speak. So look, it's a process where the CNSC and the company will share information and look to conclude and close out certain aspects. What I can say overall is that it's been indicated to us that the process is nearing conclusion. And we're very confident based on the responses that we have given that it will be concluded in the very near future. So I can't give a date and or a specific number of where that process is out of respect to the CNSC in conducting their process. But I take it on face value that the process is very close to conclusion in terms of those 49 aspects being closed out. And we very much look forward to that and then the commission hearing date being set. Look, the community in the project area are obviously closely involved in the whole process and the meaning of that for them as a community. And it was conveyed to me by one of the community chiefs late last week that they are very interested in having this process concluded in the very near future. So there's a number of stakeholders, including the province of Saskatchewan, who are of the same view. But ultimately, all of us are very respectful of the federal CNSC process concluding in the appropriate manner, and we understand that to be in the very near future.

Orest Wowkodaw

Analyst

And Leigh, just on the timing, like assuming you do get the final sign-off on the EIS, say, at the end of the year, are we talking like 60 to 90 days to set a hearing date and then 60 days post that hearing date? Like is that sort of are we talking more like mid-'25 now for kind of realistic timing of construction ready?

Leigh Curyer

Management

Well, it's totally at the discretion of the CNSC, and I respect that. I don't have a time line on it. I understand everyone's and our own. We would like it to be as soon as it can be, respecting everything that needs to occur prior to that commission hearing date. We're not looking for a shortcut or anything in that respect. So - we respect the CNSC's discretion in setting that date. I think the CNSC is well aware of all the stakeholders' desire to have that as soon as it practically can be respecting the CNSC's processes. And we are ready for it as a company, as a community, as a province to have that commission hearing and then have it finalized in order to commence construction.

Orest Wowkodaw

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Wong from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Andrew Wong

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for having me on the call. Just given the increased level of interest from utilities, I was just wondering, does that give you more line of sight on signing an offtake contract this year? And does that process hinge on the approvals process moving forward?

Leigh Curyer

Management

No, it doesn't - it doesn't hinge on the Travis?

Travis McPherson

Analyst

It doesn't.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yeah. It doesn't hinge on the permitting approvals necessarily, but we are negotiating them and in final negotiations on a number of them. Obviously, it's always hard to pin down an exact timing of signing anything you're negotiating, frankly. But obviously, extremely motivated parties on their side and on our side. So - and there's no issues or anything and it's very advanced. So yes, it seems completely reasonable that we will execute and announce potentially a number of contracts before the end of the year.

Andrew Wong

Analyst

Okay. And do you have enough physical uranium available to backstop those contracts? And just given that uranium prices have come down recently, do you see that as an opportunity to maybe add to your current inventory?

Leigh Curyer

Management

It's a good question, Andrew. I would say answering your question in order. No, we're satisfied with the amount that we have. We don't see a need to buy it. Again, when we bought it originally, there wasn't - we're not like timing the market and trying to trade the market. So uranium prices coming down, going up, frankly, doesn't really change the rationale for doing that transaction nor any future transactions with that uranium. The uranium has proven to be very useful in these discussions that we're having, particularly with a few counterparties that aren't as used to supporting a new mine because, frankly, there hasn't been a new mine in uranium in a couple of decades, at least one that's material. So it's proven to be very helpful in those negotiations. And so yes, we're satisfied with how much uranium we have and aren't looking to purchase any more.

Andrew Wong

Analyst

That's great. Thank you very much.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yeah. And Alex - sorry, Andrew, I think it's two factors. One, the market and the way it's evolving, but also the recognition by the utilities of where NexGen is in the permitting process and that it is nearing finalization. So I think it's a number of factors which has increased that activity with respect to those negotiations, specifically with NexGen.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Puneet Singh from Eight Capital. Please go ahead.

Puneet Singh

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. I saw that tidbit in the UFC Weekly where WMC was touting being brought on as your exclusive partner, and you had mentioned in the opening remarks as well. I know they do some work with the Sprott Trust, but maybe touch on that decision to bring them on and talk about how that could be a strategic advantage for you guys. Thanks.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yeah. I might start and then let Travis take over. But look, WMC are highly qualified and experienced in the uranium marketing industry worldwide. They approached us, wanted to become our exclusive marketing arm for the offtake of NexGen Rook I project. I think that reflects a couple of things. One, that they identify with our position and approach to the marketing of offtake. They have fantastic long-standing relationships with all the major utilities. And I just think that it's an excellent reflection on where we are as a company and where we're heading. Also, with - yes, they have purchased uranium for Sprott Uranium Trust. There's no relationship between NexGen or the Sprott Uranium Trust. So I just want to be clear on that. The arrangement is to exclusively market offtake on behalf of NexGen from the Rook I project. We're very excited about it for obvious reasons. As I said, I think it reflects our position in the market, but also our approach to the future marketing of the uranium.

Puneet Singh

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Craig Hutchison from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Craig Hutchison

Analyst

Hi. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Just one follow-up on the permitting front. Do you guys know at this point whether the hearings, the commission hearings will be a 1-part hearing or a 2-part hearing? Have they given you any sense on that at this stage? Or is it too early?

Leigh Curyer

Management

No, they've indicated that it will be both the permitting and the licensing concurrently.

Craig Hutchison

Analyst

Concurrently. Okay. Great. And then just on the exploration front, can you just give us a sense of what the turnaround time is on assay results? I think you guys mentioned you'll expect some assays in the fourth quarter and next year. And what's sort of the plan in terms of meterage [ph] for drilling next year? Thanks.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yeah, sure. So look, we batch the assays and considering that it's occurring in parallel to the development activities at Rook I Arrow with the confirmation of the geotechnical setting. We have been batching the assays. So we're not sending in one hole to the lab after each hole. We're doing batches. And so it will be a bit lumpy with respect to the way those assays come back. The other aspect, too, is, look, the scintillometer gives us a very good feel, and we're at the stage of just identifying the area of mineralization and looking for the interior high-grade domains. Now we still haven't defined the outer limits of the mineralization nor the high-grade subdomains within that. So the - we want to understand that first, and then we have batched and sent the core to the lab, and those will be coming in during Q4. But yeah, I just want to make the point that we're - it's not one hole, send the hole to the lab. We're batching them and we'll report them in batches as they come in. So that's happening. I think you'll see a very similar size program. The 34,000 meters at PCE was the largest in the entire Athabasca Basin for 2024. Based on what we see today, I would say that at a minimum, it will be around that many meters, plus probably some more dependent on other results. But look, this is an incredible discovery only 3.5 kilometers from the Arrow deposit entirely contained within the basement rock and at the same time, exhibiting greater off scale than what we saw at Arrow. So we are incredibly excited about it, but we are running - we haven't been distracted with it in terms of we are very focused on the permitting and development of Arrow. And this running in parallel and in the background is incredibly exciting for everyone involved, not just the people at the company, but also the community, the province as well. So it's an incredible development that has presented itself only earlier this year. So it's very early stages, but looking incredibly exciting.

Craig Hutchison

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Katie Lachapelle from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Katie Lachapelle

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, guys. It's nice to see another positive update on the drilling. I do want to go back to sort of the offtake negotiations that are underway in the WMC Energy agreement. What has been the sort of response that you've received from utilities on the back of that? And have you seen some of the contract negotiations, I would say, improve or evolve since bringing in WMC? And then maybe one follow-up as well. I'm not sure if you can answer this, but if there were to be some sort of change of control or something at the company level, is WMC guaranteed that agreement going forward? Or is there something in place where that could potentially fall out?

Travis McPherson

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks...

Leigh Curyer

Management

Sorry, Travis. Go ahead.

Travis McPherson

Analyst

Yeah. I was just going to say, yes, no, everything was progressing very well prior to WMC coming on. WMC obviously has the infrastructure in place as well as expanded long-standing relationships across the whole globe, frankly, with respect to that. I would say that, yes, NexGen was progressing these offtakes on a stand-alone basis. This has added to it. So I think natural progression, hard to say on these first few contracts. I don't think anything would have materially changed as a result of bringing WMC on. But for sure, as we look ahead and as we expand, the reception to us announcing bringing them on unanimously positive, which I think speaks to both WMC's reputation in the industry as well as NexGen and then that combination of alignment. And then with respect to the change of control provisions, I would say, without getting into the specifics, I would say they're fairly standard for this type of contract and would not necessarily live on through in perpetuity.

Katie Lachapelle

Analyst

Got it. Maybe one more question for me and it's sort of pivoting. On the Shaft award, you said that it's still progressing. I felt like a couple of months ago, that felt like it was imminent. So I'm wondering, I don't want to say there's a delay, but what's been leading to sort of the awarding of the Shaft taking a little bit longer than maybe previously expected.

Travis McPherson

Analyst

It's nothing. Nothing..

Leigh Curyer

Management

Sorry, Travis.

Travis McPherson

Analyst

No, no, go ahead. Sorry.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yeah. Look, nothing other than it's taken time. Look, it's a massive contract. And we - it's taking many review hours, et cetera. And that's just a function of how material that contract is to the overall construction schedule. The other aspect, too, is that we are awaiting final approval. So we can't really launch into any major construction until final approvals and ministerial sign-off. So yeah, nothing other than that. And I'll just say also just to add to the thing about WMC. We are very focused on executing this project. And by virtue of the volume of inbound calls we were getting, it just made sense to work with WMC to do that in a manner in which it deserves. And as Travis said, they've got exposure across the entire globe, and we are incredibly pleased to be working with them.

Travis McPherson

Analyst

And Katie, I may just add on the Shaft side of it as well. Like these large contracts like this, there'll be like phases. And so we have advanced through a limited notice to proceed on those critical path detailed engineering and procurement phase of that contract. So notwithstanding the fact that the whole contract is not executed, you do advance under the early phases of what will become those contracts. So everything on the critical path with respect to the Shafts is maintained despite this contract not being fully executed as of yet.

Katie Lachapelle

Analyst

Okay. Got it. Awesome. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Mohamed Sidibé from the National Bank of Canada. Please go ahead. Mohamed Sidibé: Hi, everybody. And thanks for taking my question. So just on the uptake front, I think you mentioned interest from utilities globally, but I just wanted to understand, given various announcement of maybe contracting being slower than expected this year, are you seeing particular interest from a specific jurisdiction? And from your point of view, are you really more focused on supplying a specific jurisdiction like North America or really open to uptakes from anywhere in the world? Thank you.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yeah. Thanks, Mohammed. I would say there's three primary jurisdictions that have been the early focus anyways, which has been North America, so Canada and the U.S. and then as well as Western Europe and Japan. We are speaking to effectively everyone around the world, but I would say that those are the most advanced. And so we're kind of just going with that. I think, yeah, from a - if we could choose how it gets split up in terms of - yeah, I think, obviously, times on wise and where the asset is, of course, North America should and likely will have a heavy focus. But yeah, we'll sell to anyone that's aligned with us and we're legally allowed to sell to. But those would be the primary three jurisdictions that have shown tremendous interest over the last couple of years. Mohamed Sidibé: Thank you. And just my second and final question here, just on the financing portion and the express of interest that you had and maybe timing. I think last time we chatted, you said that it would be post permitting approval that we could see an announcement on the financing front. Is that still the case? Or could we see something prior to maybe a commission hearing date being finalized? Thank you.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yeah. We're targeting - obviously, it's a bit of a moving target because we don't know exactly when the commission hearing date will be. Obviously, lots has been spoken to about that. But we don't know exactly where that is. Obviously, every focus and energy is on making sure that that's as expedient as it can possibly be. But we don't know when that is. So we're advancing this debt and overall project financing options, of which there are many altogether. And so yeah, there's a chance that, that can get finalized ahead of that. But again, it just depends on when that commission hearing date exactly is relative to how these things progress in advance. But we want to be at a decision point for sure, kind of around the point of that commission hearing with our own internal estimates of kind of potentially when that hearing could be.

Travis McPherson

Analyst

Yeah. A lot -- obviously, the conclusion of the federal permitting process is the main gate to be it offtake, be it construction financing finalized. All of these things are getting run in parallel, but are effectively dependent on that final federal approval process concluding. The fact that we haven't concluded the debt to date, even though we have been in a position to, has resulted in more avenues of financing. And as this market continues to evolve, we are ensuring that we will be taking the most optimal package available that maintains leverage to the future prices of uranium. We have a very, very simple story. We have a very large, very high-grade project in the best jurisdiction to develop and operate a uranium mine in Saskatchewan, Canada right next door to the biggest nuclear fuel market in the world in the U.S. and we're incorporating elite environmental standards and community participation and engagement. So we have a very simple story. And hence, we're attracting a lot of interest, be it from offtake or debt or financing providers. And the big gate to that is concluding this federal permitting process. And we are confident that, that is imminent whilst respecting the CNSC process to conclude. Mohamed Sidibé: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Comes from Aaron Chang. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, thank you. Thank you for this comprehensive summary of all the recent - aspects really of NexGen. With these exciting prospects of future projects in development and what sounds like really limitless potential and demand. There are a lot of questions I'd actually love to explore in more depth, but I'm going to hone in on a pretty functional logistics. Given the unprecedented pioneering nature of your projects, I wonder about the workforce driving the execution of these projects, the adequate supply of skilled labor workforce, does that present a risk to project progress and time line? Is this a real obstacle? I've seen how it is in other significant projects in the energy sector. And considering the complexity and scope of projects and end-to-end time lines from shovels in the ground to product in the marketplace, how robust is this skilled workforce pipeline? And the other challenge I hear a lot about in project execution in the energy sector is in supply chain delay for parts and components related to the engineering and infrastructure projects. So I'm really just wondering about these logistics and to what extent are these projects exposed to those risks as well? Thank you.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Yes. And that's an incredibly relevant question. Those two aspects, you've got to look at two things. One, the technical nature of the asset. We have a very, very - in a mining sense, very simple mine. We're in competent basement rock, it's shallow, and we'll be moving ore of 1,300 tonnes a day. It's actually one of the world's tiniest hard rock underground mines. So we're in a very technical - simple technical setting and environmental setting. The other aspect with respect to labor forces and delays is the way the company manages the execution of the project. Now we have been elite in our project execution since inception. And when it comes to the labor, we have a community 150 kilometers from the project of 4,500 people. We've been there since 2011. And we've ran a number of programs starting back in 2022 with a very enthusiastic community and working with the various technical colleges in Saskatchewan in a number of job skill programs to ensure that, that community has the access to the jobs at Rook 1 and appropriately qualified. Now a lot of those people who have gone through our programs are now currently working in other parts of Canada, but can't wait to come back once the project is approved and construction commences. So we've recognized this many years out, and we've been working towards it since we made the decision to develop this mine back in 2017. And so as we speak, we're very, very pleased with where we are with respect to that training and the availability of the appropriately qualified labor, which really - which does exist in the local community. And as a philosophy, our company, we want our workers living as close to the project in the local community as possible. And it's going to be another example of successful partnership collaboration between a company and the community in the successful execution of a resources project. So your question is incredibly valid, one which we have been aware of and planning for since 2017. And the success of those programs, which I touched on in our - earlier in our call, are having an excellent impact as we speak. So on top of that, the nature of the project and the culture of the company has been attracting elite talent from around the world. We have a very strong perspective on this mine being the most environmentally well-managed mine globally, and that's a function of its natural technical setting, but also the design aspects that we have chosen to incorporate the underground tailings management facility is one of them. And so we're really pleased with where we stand currently for our level of activity, and we're prepared for the next stages once they are approved to move forward in a sustainable and sensible manner.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you for that. And you also touched on my second question, which is going to be about the initiatives that you're already implementing in the community. So thank you for segueing naturally into that.

Leigh Curyer

Management

Pleasure.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.