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Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Wed, Jan 29, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and good afternoon. And welcome to the Novartis Q4 and Full Year 2019 Results Release Conference Call and Live Audio Webcast. Please note that during the presentation, all participants will be in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] A recording of the conference call, including the Q&A session, will be available on our website shortly after the call ends. [Operator Instructions] With that, I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Samir Shah, Global Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Samir Shah

Analyst

Hello, and welcome everybody. Thank you for participating in our full year and quarter four 2019 investor call. Before I start, I’ll read you the Safe Harbor statement. The information presented today contains forward-looking statements that involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors. These may cause actual results to be materially different from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such statements. Please refer to the Company’s Form 20-F on file with the US Securities and Exchange Commission, for a description of some of these factors. If you then turn to Slide 3 in our investor presentation, you will see the list of participants. So in the room we have Vas Narasimhan, the Chief Executive Officer; Harry Kirsch, the CFO; Marie-France Tschudin, the President of Novartis Pharmaceuticals; Susanne Schaffert, President of Novartis Oncology; John Tsai, Head of Global Drug Development and the CMO; Richard Saynor, he is the CEO of Sandoz; and Shannon Klinger, the Group General Counsel. I’m going to hand across to Vas just in a minute or two, but just for your information when we go to the Q&A session at the end of the formal presentation, we’re going to limit each question or questioner just to two questions at maximum. With that, I’ll hand across to Vas.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Great. Thank you, Samir. And thank you all for joining today’s full year results conference call. So if we move to Slide 5, as you saw in 2019, we really delivered outstanding performance across the Company. And I think the big reason for that is, we’ve had a clear strategy and we’re executing against that strategy. Clearly, we want to be a focused medicines Company powered by advanced therapy platforms and data science, we’re focusing the Company and we’re delivering against each of our five priorities, which I’ll take in turn over the course of this presentation. So going to Slide 6, when you look at the last two years, we have executed now over $70 billion of transactions, both to focus the Company and build up our presence in strategic areas, including building a presence in cell and gene therapies and radioligand therapy, now with inclisiran, a presence in RNA therapeutics. Altogether, a broad-based medicines portfolio, which we believe is the largest medicines Company purely focused on the discovery and broad access to medicines in the world. We also continue to execute our M&A strategy to build our deeper therapeutic expertise and therapeutic depth in areas like ophthalmology and cardiovascular disease. So we feel good about this dynamic and look forward to continuing a strategy of bolt-on M&A for the years to come depending on the quality of the assets we identify. Moving to Slide 7. When you look at innovation, one of our key pillars, I think we demonstrated this year that we are on the right track and really have developed the depth of a pipeline that can enable us to grow in the long-term. When you think about the scale of the portfolio that we demonstrated in our R&D Day, we have scale and depth across…

Marie-France Tschudin

Analyst

So good afternoon to all of you. I’ll start with Slide 25. So 2019 was a very strong year for pharmaceuticals with 12% growth. Our key drove growth drivers, Cosentyx and Entresto grew 28% and 71%, respectively. We also laid the foundation for our next phase of growth. We’re off to a great start with Beovu in the US, we’re accelerating Mayzent and Xiidra, and we’ve added inclisiran to the portfolio. Next slide. Cosentyx had a fantastic year with strong growth through multiple competitor entries. The underlying growth is very strong and the demand is strong. Actually in the US, we even accelerated versus prior year, and we’re outperforming the market both in dermatology and rheumatology. With a strong first-line access, we secured and continued news flow for example, our MAXIMISE and PREVENT trials. We really expect to maintain this momentum in 2020 and are confident for the future. In fact, we’re increasing our guidance to beyond $5 billion. Next slide. Entresto also saw impressive growth in 2019, [Technical Difficulty] at an all-time high, and I’m very pleased with the strong execution in the market. We feel that we have all of the components to sustain this momentum. We’ve got a strong evidence base for in hospital initiation, but also ambulatory treatment. We see increasing guideline support for Entresto as a first choice treatment, and of course in 2020, we have very nice expansion opportunities in new markets, particularly in China and Japan. Slide 27 or 28, sorry, excuse me. In Beovu, we’re very pleased with the US launch, particularly the excellent customer feedback. We’ve seen very strong uptake from retina specialists and with the permanent J-Code, there is strong confidence for reimbursement. The feedback has been outstanding. What we hear the most is that physicians are incredibly impressed with…

Susanne Schaffert

Analyst

Thank you, Marie-France. And good morning, good afternoon everybody. So let’s move to Slide 33. Also for oncology, we had a very good year. We reached sales of $14.8 billion and delivered growth of 10%, so I’m really proud of what the oncology team has achieved. The growth was mainly driven by the strong uptake of our recently launched products, including Lutathera, Kymriah, Kisqali and Piqray, but we also saw continued very strong momentum from our growth drivers, Jakavi, Promacta/Revolade and Mekinist Tafinlar. We aggressively shifted investments to our growth drivers to our launches and pre-launches to really invest early and also approved an investment case for China. And the growth really could more than compensate for generic impact we saw in 2019, mainly from Afinitor and Sandostatin LAR in Europe and Exjade/Jadenu in the US. So moving to Slide 34. One of the key growth areas for us was our breast cancer portfolio. We have launched Piqray in June 2019. This is a first-in-class PIK3CA inhibitor indicated for 40% of HR positive HER2 negative metastatic breast cancer patients with a PIK3CA mutation, and these patients usually have a very poor prognosis, so very high medical need. The product had a very strong start delivering $118 million of sales in 2019. And we’re very pleased that testing rate was up to 25% at year-end, starting at 5%, probably in the beginning of the year. We have launched a product with QIAGEN test and now also have approval for the Foundation Medicines tissue test and expect the plasma test of Foundation Medicines to be approved by Q2 2020. In addition, we have launched a very broad development program in five new indications called the EPIK program, with the potential to serve additional 100,000 patients with Piqray. Also Kisqali had a very…

Harry Kirsch

Analyst

Yeah. Thank you, Susanna. Good morning, good afternoon, everybody. My comments refer to the results of our continuing operations and growth rates are in constant currencies unless I would note otherwise. So moving to the next slide. As Vas said, 2019 has been exceptional year overall for the results of the company and the financial results. On Slide 38, we compare our actual results with our latest guidance. As you know, we revised guidance upward throughout the year and delivered as expected. Full year sales growth was 9% and core operating income growth 17%. Slide 39 shows the summary of our quarter four and full year performance. Basically, quarter four follow the same pattern as each quarter of 2019 and the full year. Focusing on the full year, the sales increased high single digit, driving accretive double-digit core operating income and core EPS growth of 17% each. This resulted in also in the strong free cash flow of $12.9 billion, up 15% in US dollars versus prior year. The net income decline you see here is entirely due to the $5.7 billion OTC joint venture one-time net gain that we recorded in 2018 when we divested our stake to GSK. Now you will recall that one of our key financial priorities is to increase free cash flow, and we have delivered another strong result in 2019. On Slide 40, the free cash flow of 2019 is compared with 2018, and our free cash flow increase was mainly driven by operating income adjusted for non-cash items. As you can see, we had a couple of large one-time items, and which we of course also reported, and they are offsetting each other, some divestment gains, but in also 2018, when we still had the OTC joint venture and other milestone from the…

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Harry. So just to close, if we move to Slide 6. Just to reiterate, again, a strong performance - really an exceptional performance in 2019, a big thank you to the entire Novartis organization for a truly outstanding year, delivering on our long-term strategy and our operational performance. In closing, with Slide 47, again, just to highlight the portfolio and the medicines we create are the strength of this company, we believe we have the right profile to deliver growth for the long-term, and we look forward to consistently demonstrating that in 2020. So with that, we can open the lines for questions and answers. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Steve Scala from Cowen. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Steve Scala

Analyst

Thank you. I have a couple of questions. First on Zolgensma, Vas, you mentioned that conversations are going well in the EU and Japan. But I don’t think you stated the tone around the US discussions. I think back to John Tsai’s comments at the R&D meeting last month, which also did not offer optimism. It seems that - things are tough with FDA on the IT study. And I’m just wondering, if you would say that, that’s not the case. And then secondly on Xiidra, Novartis’ rationale for the acquisition was that its marketing force would boost sales, but growth has been slow and it didn’t get mentioned in the prepared remarks other than Harry mentioning that you acquired the asset. When should we expect this inflection in Xiidra? Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Steve. So I’ll take Zolgensma and then I’ll hand it to Marie-France for Xiidra. So I would not agree with your characterization. I think we have - had good discussions with the FDA. We’re clear on the information we need to provide both from a preclinical standpoint, as well as the clinical data, which is the most important element of the story in terms of the - how the patients are doing from the strong study. We plan to provide data package to the FDA in the coming weeks. Then assuming we adequately have answered their questions, I would expect, or at least hope that we would get off of clinical hold. We will then move forward with a pre-BLA proposal for the filing of the strong data for an IT approval, and we continue to guide to a filing of AVXS-101 IT in 2020. Now with respect to Xiidra, Marie-France?

Marie-France Tschudin

Analyst

So we’ve always said that we have to rebuild this brand. So we went through a complete restructuring, which we’ve now completed. The product has great potential, as we know the marketplace is huge, 34 million patients in the US and only 1.6 million of those are currently on a prescription product for their dry eye disease. We also know that the unique - the product has a unique product profile. It’s the only one to treat the signs and symptoms. So we are - through this restructuring, we return to DTC in Q4. We’re going to continue to invest in Q1 and return to growth certainly by the second half of the year with greater share of voice in DTC strength.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Marie-France. Next question, operator. Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Graham Parry from Bank of America. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Graham Parry

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for taking my questions. So firstly on Gilenya on the litigation, we see overnight that you sued on the newly [ph] issued 179 patent, which had some additional language on infection prevention. I was just wondering, should we view this as any signal that you have any concern that you might not win the IPR appeal or any lack of confidence in your 405 patent litigation? And how does seemingly evergreening the patent fit with Novartis’ social trust agenda? I think there’s some reputational risk that you seem to be trying to extend the patent life unfairly here? Secondly on Zolgensma, the timing that you’re giving for the intrathecal filing of the 2020 is obviously somewhat vague. I was just wondering if you could try to tighten that into first half, second half. And I was wondering, just on your comment earlier about, I think you said 100 patients per quarter through 2020. Why no inflection there without intrathecal or you just fully penetrated into incident patients and there’s no more prevalent patients under two left? Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks, Graham. So - there’s two separate things going on right now with respect to Gilenya, we have the 405 patent, which was held up in the IPR and is currently under an IPR appeal in the Federal Circuit. Also that 405 patent is being appealed as well in District Court. And both of those trials are either ongoing or soon to start, and we expect decisions in both trials over the course of 2020 and we’ll of course, keep you all up to date. And we continue to believe this - the strength of that patent - and the strength of their pattern continue to work to defend that fully. Separate from that, yesterday, we received a US patent related to the treatment of RMS by determining Varicella-zoster status and vaccinating in appropriate cases. We actually had filed this patent close to eight to nine years ago. It’s just that the patent was issued only yesterday. And we immediately then filed infringement lawsuits in the US District Court against all generic companies that are still currently involved in the dosing regimen patent litigation. So not necessarily all companies with those companies that have not settled with us on the dosing regimen patent litigation. Again, to your comment on evergreening, we don’t view this as evergreening. We view this as a legitimately defending patents that we filed long ago based on insights on how the mechanism of Gilenya operates in this case with respect to zoster virus in the previous case, with respect to dose, as the dose differed from transplant medications for the use of the drug in the transplant setting. So that’s the situation. We continue to pursue these various lines and we’ll see ultimately how the year unfolds and keep all of you up-to-date as these…

Graham Parry

Analyst

Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Graham. Next question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Baum from Citi. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Andrew Baum

Analyst

Thank you. Couple of questions please. You’ve indicated that you are going to file Entresto for preserved ejection fraction heart failure sometime in Q1 with respect to [indiscernible]. Could you just give us some details on what population you're filing as they're modestly reduced? Is it women? Is it both? Secondly, how much weight do you really put on the 179 patents, surely a carve out in a skinny label would seem to circumvent given the widespread prevalence of Varicella vaccination in the US market. And then finally on the Lutetium-PSMA, is the therapy trial fileable in addition to your Phase 3 trial broadening the initial approvals for this product in refractory prostate cancer? Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Okay. So first on the indication for Entresto and preserved ejection fraction heart failure. John?

John Tsai

Analyst

Yeah. Just - thanks for the question, Andrew. Just in terms of a quick reminder for folks on PARAGON study. The results came out in the third quarter of the year, where we saw a very narrow miss with a p-value of 0.059 in terms of patients with preserved ejection fraction. We’ve had good discussions with the US FDA and the approach that we would take as a broad indication given the benefits that we’ve seen across the population. And we’ll have continued dialog with the regulatory agency on the approach moving forward.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

And so then, on the 179 patent, we - overall, our view is that we have - we’re confident in the strength of both the dosing regimen patent and disaster pattern. We think given the disaster patent relates to the safety of the product, we feel like it is a strong patent and we’ll continue to vigorously defend our IP rights, particularly against those companies that have not yet settled overall with respect to Gilenya. Settlement discussions of course are ongoing, and we’ll see where we land over the course of this year. Now on Lu-PSMA. John?

John Tsai

Analyst

Yeah. I didn’t ask - I didn’t hear the specific question, could you repeat that. Andrew?

Andrew Baum

Analyst

Sure. So you have your Phase 3 trial in patients unwilling or unable or failed chemotherapy, the large Phase 3 - the name escapes me, later this year, but you also have the THERAPY Phase 2 trial versus chemo. My question was whether you could get approval for both indications, therefore, broadening the initial label at the time of first launch?

John Tsai

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks, Andrew. For the VISION Trial, we’re actually looking at the later lines and we would not get both indications, because the second trial would actually come later. So our intent is through the VISION trial.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Yeah. So we - I think we expect to see first VISION get that third, fourth line and then move into earlier lines of therapy as the other readout top. And I don’t think we’d have data available to really enable us to get an even broader population at launch, at least that’s our current expectation. Very good. Thank you, Andrew. Next question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from line of Tim Anderson from Wolfe Research. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Tim Anderson

Analyst

Thank you. I just wanted to go back to Gilenya again. After Q3 management was felt to be on the road as being quite bullish that you would extend LOE and not have generic entry for years to come. And there is a sense now that perhaps you’ve backed away from that maybe related to oral arguments recently. So I’m wondering, just to simplify it as giving guidance to the analyst community. What would be a safe assumption for when we should expect LOE? And second question is Sandoz, you’ve previously talked about that I think is being a three year journey to turn it around to reevaluate what to do with the division, maybe we’re a year into that or slightly less. And I’m wondering if you can update us on long-term plans for that division is performing. We see that, but at the same time, it is a drag on growth, especially as the innovative pharma side of the business picks up and has momentum. Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thanks, Tim. On Gilenya, unfortunately I can’t answer your question, because I think it’s difficult for us to know precisely. What we are confident on is we have a strong set of patents here that we’re vigorously defending. We’re giving guidance, so that you can all assume that no generic entrants in 2020. And I think we’ll know a lot more over the course of this year as we see the results of the IPR appeal, our own effort to strengthen the 405 patent with the IPR office, the District Court litigation that’s ongoing, our 179 patent, which has now been granted, and we have filed infringement lawsuits on it. And then of course, the wildcard with all of that is would someone attempt to launch at risk in various scenarios as well. So I think it’s difficult I think to give a precise answer. But I think what’s really important is that along with the 2020 guidance, we also are committed to delivering the margin expansion that we talk about independent of when this happens. So that should give you - all of you confidence we believe in the overall growth profile momentum and financial profile of the company. Now with respect to Sandoz, yeah, I’m very pleased with where we are in this journey to date. I think we’re on the right track. I think we’re committed to the business and continuing to drive the margins up to the mid 20s, which would put us in the range of our peer set over the coming years, continuing to strengthen the pipeline and portfolio separating it in the companies that, that has the ability to compete very successfully. Richard, you want to just give some comments on where we are on the Sandoz strategy?

Richard Saynor

Analyst

Thank you, Vas. Yeah, I mean, clearly a strong year in 2019. We want to continue that momentum growing in 2020, and as Vas said, improve the margin journey as well. Also part of that is moving supply chain more within the Sandoz framework that gives us greater control of our costs and resource allocation and continuing to build our strength clearly in Europe with the number one position taking market share, building a very strong and dynamic biologics portfolio. The US now re-based much more focused in terms of growing on a much stronger injectable and specialty platform, and then emerging markets closing the Aspen acquisition and integrating that into this quarter and then continue to build strong dynamic growth. So I think there’s a lot of things that we’re focused on that really support that agenda.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Yeah. So we’ll keep you updated as Sandoz continues on the journey, and of course, if any of our perspectives change, we’ll of course let you know. Thank you, Tim. Next question?

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Seamus Fernandez from Guggenheim. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Seamus Fernandez

Analyst

Thanks for the question. So two questions. Number one, can you just - can you guys just update us on the trajectory for Beovu in the market. It looks like we’re off to a good start. What we are hearing from some physicians though is there are some questions being raised about the reimbursement dynamics in the market and whether or not PRN utilization is something where they’re struggling to get reimbursed if a patient is not getting the kind of benefits that they hoped early on. I know it’s early on in the launch. So just trying to get a better sense of if that may be due to the J-Code and lack of that in the early days or just education that Novartis needs to do, if the physician base for reimbursement? And the second question is, can you just help us understand the inclisiran agreement with the UK. I think there’s a lot of confusion around this. So just love to know the input with regard to distribution and really how this agreement is structured and the kind of revenue potential that you might see just from that type of an indication? And if this is something that Novartis is seeking to expand into this type of structure, Novartis would expand into other markets internationally, or even in the US? Thanks.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Seamus. So first on the Beovu overall performance and profile, Marie-France?

Marie-France Tschudin

Analyst

Okay. So I’ll just say that, overall, we’re extremely pleased with our launch of Beovu in the US. There is actually very strong uptake. We’ve got 84% of retina specialists that have Beovu in their fridge. And actually, we got the J-code in record time. So there is a lot of confidence in the marketplace around the reimbursement and the benefits investigation experience. We’re also supporting physicians and providers and payers with a number of different initiatives. So that this will flow quite easily. You have to remember, we’ve had the permanent J-Code since the 1st of January, but so far the benefits investigation and the re-verifications have gone extremely well. What we’re really excited about though is the feedback. So we get outstanding feedback from physicians regarding the efficacy and regarding the drying properties of Beovu. So very encouraged, we feel strongly that there is confidence in the marketplace around not only the clinical experience so far, but also the experience around reimbursement.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

In respect to inclisiran, the UK agreement, Marie-France?

Marie-France Tschudin

Analyst

So the NHS partnership is made up of three memorandums of understanding. The first one is really around a population health agreement in secondary prevention to enable broad access in the UK. The second agreement is around a partnership for a primary prevention trial and that is something that we would be working not only with the UK, but hopefully other - with other countries, obviously with the intention of having a trial beyond just the UK. And here the intent would be much more to look at those patients who would be at high risk of having an event, but have not yet had an event. The third memorandum of understanding is around a collaboration in manufacturing, and this is really around the optimization to scale capacity. So these are three agreements or intent of agreements. They are in preliminary phases and we’re obviously in conversations with the UK government around all three. What is really interesting is this novel approach, and I think that’s what we’re very excited about, because it is an opportunity for us to work with health care systems in a very different way. We know, LDL cholesterol is a huge issue, because of the lack of adherence, and we feel that with inclisiran twice a year injected at a physician office can really have the potential to increase the adherence and make a dent in CV disease and CV mortality over time.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Maybe Seamus just on the modeling side of your question, and if you just think about the secondary prevention market in the - or number of patients actually in the UK, there is about 1.8 million in patients in the UK, who would be eligible from a secondary prevention standpoint. The initial part of this memorandum of understanding which we still have to I think fully get the final agreements around would enable the treatment of multiple hundreds of thousands of patients. And then as data becomes more - from launch I should say. And as data becomes more available, especially the outcome study in 2024, a potential to further - further expand that. So there would be a clear commercial potential right from the start with inclisiran being broadly used in the UK, can’t guide obviously the specific numbers, but we think it’s a highly attractive with respect to that launch. And Marie-France and her team are very actively discussing now with payers in the US as well as other parties around the world to see can we use similar population-based agreements to drive significant volume uptake even ahead of the outcome study. Good. So thank you, Seamus. Next question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Weston from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Matt Weston

Analyst

Thank you very much. The first question Vas, in your introductory comments, you flagged $1.5 billion of incremental efficiency gains, and you had already raised margin guidance to mid to high 30s with the Medicines company deal. So how should we interpret today’s message, is it now a target of even higher 30s? Or this new savings program helps achieve the previous goal? Or are we looking for a large proportion to be reinvested in launches and innovation? And then two other quick ones, if I can Mitsubishi Tanabe, the Gilenya arbitration. Can you just update us on timing, please. And when we should expect an outcome? And one for Susanna, Lutathera, it - previously, it had been flagged as a blockbuster opportunity, but sales now seemed to a very much plateaued. What’s going to drive the inflection and when should we see it? Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Matthew. On the $1.5 billion, we really see this is as a part of the ongoing journey to achieve the mid to high 30s margin. And Harry, do you want to add any other details?

Harry Kirsch

Analyst

Yeah, Matthew. Thank you for the question. So basically, we updated where we stand on the prior $2 billion productivity program that we announced two years ago, which we are completing end of 2020, and that was of course also supporting our short and mid term margin guidance. This is also further supporting our margin expansion toward mid to high 30s. So it’s part of the overall program. Of course, the growth drivers from the sales, from the launches, in-market growth drivers, as well as resource allocation and this ongoing continued efforts mainly and technical operation, supply chain, but also of MBS and procurement.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Great. Thank you, Harry. And then on Mitsubishi Tanabe, we don’t have any updates from where we were - last we’re on this - we’re continuing the dialog and we’ll of course provide you an update, if and when we have one. And then with respect to Lutathera, Susanna?

Susanne Schaffert

Analyst

Yeah. So on Lutathera, actually it is and will be one of the key growth drivers for the oncology business. And overall, we’re very pleased with the performance. We have, however, observed a slight deceleration in the growth in the US, just remember that still more than 80% of sales are coming from the US, and that’s largely due to the reason that the major net centers that we focused on in the first round of our commercial efforts have now worked through the existing prevalence pool of cap net patients. So now we focus on really tapping into earlier lines. We have expanded our US field force, now really targeting community centers and Tier 2 centers and should be very - we are very optimistic actually. We also should see now a more sales coming from Europe, as we got reimbursement in several key markets like France, Italy and Spain. So overall, we remain very confident on Lutathera. We still believe this has blockbuster potential. And as I said, still remain very optimistic about this product.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Great, thank you, Susanna. Thank you, Matthew. Next question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Florent Cespedes from Societe Generale. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Florent Cespedes

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. Florent Cespedes from Societe Generale. Two quick questions. First ofatumumab, could you remind us what are the resources that you will use to push the US launch in terms of sales force, and will you use medicine or Gilenya sales force as well or do you need to build new one ahead of the launch? My second question is more big picture regarding respiratory following significant results. What's your strategy in the US - in the respiratory notably in the US, would you change your, your view on this therapeutical area? Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

So Marie-France on ofatumumab.

Marie-France Tschudin

Analyst

So on ofatumumab, obviously, we are resourcing to win and we’ve got a strong focus on the US also given the fact that we have submitted a PRV. We are looking to work with two separate sales forces. So one dedicated to ofatumumab and then of course, we have a sales force with Mayzent and Gilenya. So we will be - we will be resourcing to win in this marketplace as I said to you before in the presentation, we firmly believe that we have a very unique value proposition with ofatumumab with unsurpassed efficacy and with B-cell depletion. We’ve got an excellent safety profile, and also the ease-of-administration will - can really make this product a first-line choice for not only centers of excellence, but just the general neurologists.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Marie-France. On the respiratory strategy, what I’d say is of course, fevipiprant [ph] was a big setback, but we still have a significant global presence with Xolair, Xolair is a major medicine for the company, obviously, a leading medicines for the treatment of atopic asthma. We’ve had a number of life cycle management opportunities with Xolair both in Japan, the US and in the EU. So Xolair remains a pillar. Ex-US, we will of course have the inhaled range, which now will get expanded with the QVM and QMS approval. And then longer term, we have a pipeline within R&D, within development and research that could address a broad range of more specialty respiratory areas, including idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, PAH sarcoidosis. We have a program, a medicine called QBW, which is an oral medicine for COPD, so a full range of assets in respiratory. So I’d say right now, we’re waiting to see how that pipeline matures. And in the meantime, we focus on Xolair and our inhaled range. Thank you, Florent. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Peter Welford from Jefferies. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Peter Welford

Analyst

Thanks for taking my questions. Just two brief ones, please. Firstly, just I guess Harry on the corporate cost base. Despite obviously, a lot of the cost cutting going through which will be completed this year, we’re still seeing around a mid single-digit increase in corporate SG&A costs year-on-year. Can you sort of provide some guidance perhaps such that, that might develop in the future, whether or not we should see a change in that trend? Secondly then just for Richard, I wonder if you could give us any more visibility on the reasons behind the discontinuation of generic Advair. Was this decision based on regulatory discussions or was this related to some other part of the product characteristics? And perhaps a question [ph] to Harry, I didn’t see it in the release. But do we have the exact numbers in the Sandoz oral US solids business please with [indiscernible] both sales and profits to take out of 2019? Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Great. So thank you, Peter. Corporate cost, Harry?

Harry Kirsch

Analyst

Yeah. On the corporate cost, I mean, first of all, let me - first of all, let me start with all of our guidance of course include always also the corporate sector even though is a small part and you add up of course Innovative Medicines and Sandoz. So there are quite a few moving parts in that. We expect actually for next year, that the corporate cost part comes down. And in the range of $50 million to $80 million, but it’s a bit more volatile, because it’s often - including some pension charges and other things, share-based compensation, all of that would therefore a bit more volatile than maybe other parts of the business. But we do see an overall reduction in the corporate cost line, core corporate cost as we go into 2020. Maybe I should just add to it on Sandoz please...

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Yeah. Please go ahead.

Harry Kirsch

Analyst

To it, so we have footnoted that a $1.1 billion in - $1.2 billion in 2018 and $1.1 billion in 2019 on sales. I can - I just give you the exact numbers then you have it, and we will anyway, once the deal is concluded, we will issue then for a set of pro forma financials. So the net sales of this part of the business was $1.174 billion in 2018 and it’s $1.072 billion in 2019. In terms of core operating income, it was $294 million in ‘18 and now $272 million in 2019. Now that sounds probably very low decline. It’s of course helped that we stopped the depreciation and amortization of course for core the stop of depreciation is important. And basically, the depreciation that didn’t get booked was $9 million in 2018 and $26 million in 2019. So if you add that back, then you have there a decline of 14% on the bottom line. But of course when we compare the numbers and when we give pro forma the $272 million and $294 million for the two years in core operating income will be the ones that now are the public numbers.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Good. Thank you, Harry. And then generic Advair, Richard?

Richard Saynor

Analyst

Thank you. So, as you know, we received a CRL for proposed Advair Gx in 2018 and our latest Q3 guidance that we would not be able to launch before H2 2020. Following a recent review of our data readouts, we no longer see a pathway to launch in the next 18 months. And as a result, we’ve decided to discontinue further development.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Yes. And I think Peter, there is really much -- really data driven, not necessarily from a regulatory feedback standpoint. Okay. Next question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Stephan Schneider from Vontobel. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Stephan Schneider

Analyst

Yes, hi. Thank you. Vas, you showed us on slide 23 that in-line products and pipeline would sustain long-term growth for the company. What do you project for your bolt-ons which were on an annual basis for $10 billion? Do you still need that to drive long-term growth? And the other one is what about share buybacks in that context? Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Yeah, Harry, you want to just go through our capital allocation priorities, and I can comment a little more detail on M&A.

Harry Kirsch

Analyst

Yeah, sure. Stephan, I mean, our capital allocation priorities have not changed, so - and most of you know them, I should repeat them sort of first being investments in attractive organic growth opportunities. The second being to growing dividend and we assuming AGM approval, we will pay out $7 billion early March to all of our shareholders in totality. And then third would be the M&A bolt-on acquisitions where was usually in the range of roughly 5%, that’s not a formula. We go buy it whatever the opportunities are, but I think it’s mainly to indicate, we are not after large M&A. Last but not least, would be share buybacks, and we completed last year 5 billion share buyback that we started in the middle of 2018. Now given also we bought Medicines company for a $9.7 billion, we will finance it. Of course, share buyback at the moment, we do not see an additional one. So we haven’t announced it, therefore, whenever we would do an additional share buyback we would announce it. We have a standing commitment that we always buy back employee participation program. So we never dilute our shareholders with employee programs. And there is of course an ongoing buyback that comes that we do without announcing it. But a specific share buyback program at the moment is not announced. I do expect that share buybacks will be always part of our capital allocation. But it’s also the fourth priority.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thanks, Harry. And I think with respect to bolt-on M&A, I mean, when I look at this chart what I see is the power of Novartis’ internal R&D, and we appropriately supplement that with M&A. But we’re never in a position where we need to do or have to do M&A, we do it based on attractive assets that fit with our M&A strategy. And then if we can have very strong economics beyond the acquisition, then of course, we do them. So we feel very good about our overall profile, and the strength of our internal R&D engine. Next question, operator. Thank you, Stephan.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Richard Parkes from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Richard Parkes

Analyst

Hi. Thanks very much for taking my questions. Firstly on Cosentyx, you obviously raised your peak sales guidance, but if we look at the Q-on-Q volume growth in the US, it’s slowed a bit. And it sounds like you’re talking about maintained rather than improved commercial access for 2020. I know historically, we’ve seen a soft Q1 with an acceleration as you’ve benefited from improved volumes. I wonder, if we should expect that again this year or are we in more of an equilibrium with an acceleration more dependent on new approvals. That’s the first question. Second, I just wondered if, Harry could talk about the swing factors to the upper and lower end of guidance, consensus is already at the - pretty much at the top end of the guidance. So I wondered if there’s anything, maybe that we’re not considering or is your range would you see that as a conservative kind of start for the year? Final question is just a clarification is a few products, where US sales have significantly exceeded the IQVIA volume growth in the quarter, including Entresto, Promacta and Gilenya. I just wondered if you could talk - give us some insight on trends in pricing mix and stocking changes impacting those products? Thanks.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Richard. So first on Cosentyx dynamics, Marie-France?

Marie-France Tschudin

Analyst

So let me try and take parts of your question. So let me maybe address the Q4, Q1 transition. So yes, we do expect the typical Q1 seasonality and we’ll probably see that across the industry. We actually aim to be broadly in line with Q4 potentially with a small deviation, but we wouldn’t see a very large deviation. With your access question, we remain very focused on first and second line access. And obviously, the incremental RDs as usual to make sure that happens. We feel very confident about where we are in access, there have been some changes, but we are in a solid first-and second-line position in the US. I just like to remind that we’ve continued and we sustained growth through multiple competitor entries. And we see Cosentyx relatively untouched by new competitors coming in the marketplace. If I just give you an example, so in the US we’re outperforming both in dermatology and rheumatology, but if I take the dermatology market, we grew 27% this year versus the marketplace at 12%, and if we look at quarter four, it’s 27% with the marketplace growing at 14%. We’re very confident in Cosentyx product profile. But I think what’s more important is that physicians are really confident with Cosentyx product profile. If we look at PSO, we provide complete treatment. Cosentyx is great on skin, but it is a complete treatment, two-thirds of patients will have additional manifestations on nail, scalp and palmoplantar and we do propose a very strong value proposition. What’s also important is that payers want an IL-17 on their formulary. And so we are in a very good position to keep our market position. We’re also leaders in the room space. So that’s why we’ve upped our guidance based on the momentum and also on the additional news flow that we expect in the future.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Marie-France. I always think people should remind themselves Cosentyx has almost 45% of its sales now coming from rheumatology fast growth. And there, of course we faced minimal competition and continue to have an outstanding profile that we expand with additional indications. And Marie-France and her team are doing an outstanding job. So we feel very good with where we are on Cosentyx. On guidance, Harry?

Harry Kirsch

Analyst

Yeah, I think, Richard, you asked about what are the potential swing factors? I mean, I think at the end all, what we discussed here and there was three key elements on the top line. I think our key growth drivers in market are well established and that is not so much of a swing factor in my mind. Of course, the launches, we have some key launches and there is always a range how fast will be if you'll take up. It's a great start and other key launches that are driving onco and pharma. So it’s a bit the range of outcome on the launches. And the second piece of course then the productivity part. There, we are very confident. We are slightly ahead of our $2 billion program to be finalized this year. The next program is there, but that’s completely under our control and that’s going extremely well. The third element is then the potential generic entries. And now we have now in the US basically, Exjades in the world competition entering in November on Afinitor 3 lower strengths not yet the higher strength and then travoprost. Another element of course will be how quickly are by large generic suppliers resubmitting. Some of them are back in the market and we would expect that Diovan and Exforge decline in 2020. Now there are some other smaller products in after pharma. Of course, it could be that these come a bit later. Then we talk about the higher end, and also if our launches overperform, we talk at the higher end of the guidance. So it’s usual, let’s say, a set of swing factors, but overall very confident in the top line growth, a bit more on this uncertainty what generics outside of Gilenya and Sas LAR [ph] which are out of our guidance, on the other smaller products when are they coming in.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Harry. And then I think on the last question on the IQVIA mismatch, probably we can’t comment on why the data mismatch. But in terms of Entresto dynamics, and then in terms of Kisqali and Taf/Mek dynamics, maybe first Marie-France, you want to comment on Entresto momentum in the US and then Susanna, you can comment on the onco portfolio.

Marie-France Tschudin

Analyst

So as you saw before the momentum for Entresto is extremely strong and it’s really based on demand. As I said before, the NBRxs are at an all time high. In the US, we’ve seen an fantastic quarter four, and we expect that momentum to continue through 2020. We’re very encouraged by the fact that we have very strong data both in supporting ambulatory initiations, but also in hospital initiations. We have strong endorsement from the guidelines from ACC, AHA and ESC. And also we’ve got opportunities to grow in the future in China and Japan. So I think we’re poised to do really well with Entresto this year.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Marie-France. And volume dynamic, Susanna?

Susanne Schaffert

Analyst

And I think also on the oncology portfolio in the US, very, very strong accelerated growth on Kisqali. And I think, Richard, you pointed out Promacta actually there, we see continued strong growth in ITP and also very strong uptake in first-line SAA. We also had very favorable guidelines published at ASH putting Promacta favorable versus Revlimid, so continued growth there and very pleased with the momentum.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

So overall, Richard, I’d say it’s not stocking or other effects, this is real demand growth that we’re seeing on our key brands. So next question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Keyur Parekh from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Keyur Parekh

Analyst

Good afternoon, and thank you for taking my questions. The first one is, Vas last year, Novartis started by guiding to operating profit for the Innovative Medicines business to grow at mid to high-single digits, and you ended the year delivering 17%. Can you help us think about what might be the factors that might prevent you from doing similar levels of growth or a similar kind of momentum as we look at 2020? That’s question number one. Question number two, relative to inclisiran. And you spoke about the NHS kind of memorandum of understanding being hundreds of thousands of patients to begin with. The highest selling medicine in the UK prior to inclisiran would have been Humira at about GBP400 million in NHS spend. As one thinks about potential market pricing for inclisiran with the kind of population numbers we are talking about, how likely is it that inclisiran is not the biggest selling medicine in the UK? Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

My first comment Keyur, as your questions are strangely like in entrapment, I feel like. So I will do my best to answer them. On the overall momentum as Harry said, of course, we have tremendous momentum on our growth brands, on our launches. I think the key difference between 2020 and 2019 is we do have the Exjade and Afinitor generics coming in. We also have the ophtha mature portfolio with generic exposure, and there’s just a range of different outcomes for those brands. And on the upside of course, if our launch brands deliver or over deliver our aspirations, they would more than offset them. So and that’s why we gave the range that we’ve given at the start of this year to be prudent, and then, we’ll of course update as we year progresses. And we have a better read on some of these key launches that are currently ongoing. Now on - with respect to inclisiran, it’s certainly our aspiration that we would want to make it one of the largest medicines or if not the largest medicine in the history of the NHS, but we have many steps to get there. We have to get the medicine approved. We have to arrive at the final agreement with the UK and NICE. And then ultimately, we need to drive significant uptake within the NHS system, which will require Marie-France and her team to do a lot of work to ensure that patients are diagnosed and ultimately get the medicine. The good news and what we’re excited about is the commitment of the NHS to work together with us to drive that uptake, which is what we feel like on the first part of this agreement is truly unprecedented for the Head of the NHS and myself to sit together and discuss the introduction of a medicine into the NHS system and the goal of driving large scale utilization together, including the NHS directly working on driving that utilization themselves. I think that shows the potential of this medicine to impact what is the leading cause of death and disability for health care system. So there’s a huge desire. I’ve been genuinely impressed by the partnership that we’ve seen with the UK NHS and relevant UK government agencies on this. And what - hopeful now is that we can replicate it in other geographies and hopefully at other systems in the US as well. Okay. And now we have - we still have seven to eight questions left. And so I would ask now that we do our best to limit yourself to one question and that one question should have no more than two sub-parts to it. So, next question.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Laura Sutcliffe from UBS. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Laura Sutcliffe

Analyst

Hello. Thanks for taking my question. It is one question with two sub-parts. And for the assets going to Aurobindo, do you see any further risks to the execution timeline? And have there been any changes to what you are actually going to be able to dispose of there? Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Richard?

Richard Saynor

Analyst

Thank you, Laura. We are confident we’ll close this quarter, we’re moving in the direction we would expect to. We’re working closely with Aurobindo on the FTC to close that off and there shouldn’t be any surprises.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Great. Thank you, Richard. Thank you, Laura. Next question?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Richard Vosser from JPMorgan. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Richard Vosser

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. So just one about the tax rate. So just, I think we had an idea that the tax rate might go up to in between a range of 16% to 17% because of some of the tax reform in Switzerland and maybe the US. So just thoughts on what’s going on there to bring it in line for 2020 sort of 16% and how we should think about it going forward? Thanks very much.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Harry?

Harry Kirsch

Analyst

All right. Thank you, Richard. So it’s of course, always the core tax rates and the tax rates move around with a bit of different split of profits in the different geographies we are differently taxed. So again, I was pleased that for 2020. We have an outlook that the tax rate of - core tax of 16% is a realistic basically in the range of last year. And as an ongoing, there could be an increase in the range of the 16% to 17%, - 17.5%. But we ill update really here year-by-year, and there’s a lot going on -- in the overall tax - field of taxes. On the other hand, we feel that we have a very attractive tax rate and that we will continue to have very attractive tax rate. And of course the Swiss tax reform being embedded and approved last year, is super helpful for that. But it’s very hard to give exact long term outlooks on it, but I’m confident we’ll continue to have a very attractive tax rate in a range of 16% to 17.5% in the long-term.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Great. Thank you, Richard. Thank you, Harry. Next question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Eric Le Berrigaud from Bryan Garnier. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Eric Le Berrigaud

Analyst

Yes, good afternoon. So one question as well. We understand clearly what is beyond your assumption that Gilenya, there won’t be any generic in 2020. Maybe a word on when you also take the assumption that there won’t be any Sandostatin generic in the US, it seems that Teva is quite hopeful to get positively out of the CRL answer they got last year and to be in the market by the end of the first half. So could you give maybe some sensitivity of, if that happens, does that change anything to your guidance? Thanks very much.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Yeah. Thank you, Eric. On Sandostatin, we can -- as you know, there has been an ongoing effort to launch a generic on Sandostatin LAR given its unique formulations since I believe 2006 or 2007. It is a very complex formulation and a complex manufacturing process. We - to our understanding have not seen any activity in the channels to indicate an entrance. And so if and when that changes we’ll of course let you know and update our guidance appropriately. I don’t know, Harry, if you want to comment on the level of the fact.

Harry Kirsch

Analyst

The US sales of Sas LAR, right, if you assume a mid-year, this would not be so material. Of course on both, there would be next Gilenya and Sas LAR then we would have to update, but with Sas LAR alone assuming a mid-year US entry would not change our guidance. It’s a big enough range.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

And I would also say, it’s important to note, given the production challenges with Sandostatin LAR, I think this -- we expect this to more look like a biosimilar type erosion as we’ve seen in Europe, where we’ve been able to hold very well our Sandostatin LAR share even in the face of entrants in Germany and the few other countries. Okay. Next question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is from the line of Naresh Chouhan from Intron Health. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Naresh Chouhan

Analyst

Hi, there. Sorry, my questions just been answered. Thank you.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you, Naresh. We appreciate your interest. Next question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from line of Mark Purcell from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Mark Purcell

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks for squeezing me in, Vas. Cosentyx, two parts. On the first part for non-radiographic axSpA and the use of PRV, clearly you have confidence the opportunity here for the product as partly raised against how it's built. Is this a reflection of patient cycling dynamics or subgroup data from the prevent study or just as a portfolio play you have from an transformative position because in-market seems you has incredibly strong data in this setting on the face of superior. So just trying to understand the payers and physicians want both the TNF and IL-17 approach. And then the related question in terms of the IL-17A and IL-17F head-to-head trials is expected this year versus Cosentyx from UCB’s Bimekizumab. If you see superiority, do you feel that have any impact given of the IL-23, IL-17 as you said, physicians and payers want an example of both, but if it’s a head-to-head and IL 17A for -- IL-17A, IL-17F head-to-head study would that have any impact on the psoriasis indication for Cosentyx as you expand into new compensating indications?

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Yeah, thanks for the question. On Cosentyx non-radiographic axial SpA, the reason we’re excited is again, the mechanism here by IL-17A versus TNF molecules allows you to really target emphasize this or of the MTC’s insertion points. And we believe in the long run leads to slower progression of the disease and physicians, the reason, you’ve had such a strong uptake in PSA and AS with IL-17A and particularly Cosentyx is because of that mechanism and the data we’ve been able to show across a range of different indications. So we think versus a TNF option patients will prefer IL-17A, also there is an impressive safety profile non-radiographic, you’re moving into earlier lines of -- really in earlier line of therapy, so safety also matters. So we think we’ll have the right profile. We think given Cosentyx overall strength in rheumatology, we want to expand the full indication range quickly, we have non-radiographic that we have - as we’ve loaded in the R&D Day, a broad range of eight additional indications we’re pursuing primarily in rheumatology to really build out the base. So that’s very much the goal. And IL-17AF look, we believe Cosentyx now has six, seven years of real world data, has a broad label, has proven itself for physicians. And so we are not particularly concerned about other IL-17 inhibitors now coming in five, six years after with a single trial. I think as Marie-France noted, we have been able to head off every single one of the entrants that have come in to say and let - leading all of you to say that the end of Cosentyx is near and we’ve been able to keep growing. I think that speaks to the power of the medicine. And that’s what we’ll keep driving. And then the last -- one last question, operator?

Operator

Operator

Your last question comes from the line of Simon Baker from Redburn. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Simon Baker

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, for hanging around for my question. France, you began the presentation with a very persuasive presentation on your commitment to Novartis’ ESG philosophy and target. The question is how and when will you be able to persuade sustain analytics to let the red flag that they currently have on Novartis which we know from talking from clients is preventing some investors from holding your stock. Thanks so much.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

I appreciate the questions. And we are very committed to demonstrating to MSCI Sustainalytics and the relevant other firms, the depth and breadth of our commitment to these topics. You will see in the appendix of our Novartis in Society report, the most comprehensive review of our position in all of these areas that we’ve ever done. We’re doing an online system as well to provide these agencies with all the relevant facts. We’re working very hard to resolve the remaining late -- topics we have from the past with respect to some of our legacy issues. And I’m optimistic we’ll be able to get to a better place with the reports coming out later this year. It’s certainly a top focus for me and our management team. So hopefully, we’ll be able to do that and those investors then would be able to invest in our - we believe great company.

Simon Baker

Analyst

Got it.

Vasant Narasimhan

Analyst

Thank you all very much, and appreciate you stick - sticking around a little longer. And we’ll look forward to providing you another update in a few months. I wish you a great 2020, great start to the next decade. And thank you for your interest in Novartis.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. We will now disconnect.