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NVE Corporation (NVEC)

Q3 2010 Earnings Call· Fri, Jan 22, 2010

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to today's NVE 2010 third quarter results conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Daniel Baker, President and CEO of NVE.

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Thanks, Jason. Good afternoon and welcome to our conference call for the third quarter of fiscal 2010. As always I'm joined by Curt Reynders our Chief Financial Officer. This call is being webcast live and being recorded. A replay will be available through our website nve.com. After my opening comments Curt will present a financial review of the quarter, I'll highlight some business items, and then we'll open the call to questions. We filed our press release with quarterly results and our quarterly report on Form 10-Q with the SEC in the past hour following the close of market. Both filings are available through our website. Comments we may make that relate to future plans, events, financial results, or performance are forward looking statements that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties including among others such factors as risks and continued growth in revenue and profitability, risks associated with our reliance on several large customers, uncertainties related to research and development contract funding, risks related to developing marketable product, uncertainties and the possible issue in sub patents, uncertainties related to seasonal patterns to our business, uncertainties related to economic environment, and risks related to buying our stock as well as the risk factors listed from time to time and our filings with the SEC including our most recent annual report on Form 10-K as updated on our just filed quarterly report on Form 10-Q. The company undertakes no obligation to update forward looking statements we may make. We're pleased to report revenue, product sales, and earnings that were records for the seasonally weak third fiscal quarter. Revenue increased 13% driven by a 15% increase in product sales and net income increased 12% to $0.57 per diluted share. Before I turn the call over to Curt I want to congratulate him again on being named one of the hardest CFOs in the past quarter by the Minneapolis St. Paul Business Journal. This was Curt's third consecutive year on the list. Congratulations, Curt, and now we'll let you get to work discussing the details of our financial results.

Curt A. Reynders

Management

Thanks, Dan, and good afternoon. As Dan mentioned, total revenue for the quarter increased 13% to $6.62 million. The increase was primarily due to a 15% increase in product sales to $5.29 million. Sales appear to have benefited from an improving economy, especially for the industrial control markets late in the calendar year, although economists are saying it may take awhile for the economy to return to historical levels. 2009 has been reported to be one of the worst years in the semiconductor industry in 25 years. In a year when semiconductor industry revenues declined more than 11% according to preliminary estimates and many companies in the industry have reported sharp declines, we are pleased to have delivered increases in product sales each of the three quarters of the fiscal year and a 14% increase for the first nine months. The December quarter, our third fiscal quarter, has historically been the weakest quarter of the fiscal year. Until this year our product sales have been less in the third quarter than the second quarter every year since fiscal 2005, but this year there was actually a sequential increase of approximately $115,000 or 2%. The departure from seasonal weakness this year may be due to the improving economic environment overcoming adverse seasonal patterns such as distributor ordering or customer shutdowns late in the calendar year. Industry inventory data can be tricky, but some channel inventories appeared to decrease in recent months which would be positive because distributors and others might order more parts to replenish inventories they reduced in response to the economic downturn. Some semiconductor manufacturers reduced capacity and capital expenditures during the downturn. We even saw signs of shortages and allocations of certain types of parts. We did not reduce capacity and used the downturn as an opportunity to…

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Thanks, Curt. I'll cover product sales, R&D, patents, and review 2009. Starting with product sales, as we've said before, our near-term growth strategy has been new products and broader distribution and longer-term to expand into larger markets such as consumer or automotive electronics. We sell standard products primarily through catalog Internet distributors supplemented by specialized face-to-face distributors in select territories. Our primary market for custom products are medical devices. We were pleased to renew our St. Jude Medical supplier partnering agreement in the past quarter. An amendment extended our agreement to supply Spintronic GMR Sensors through the end of 2010. We summarized our product advantages in the medical market with four Bs; boxes or miniaturization, bits or precision, bulletproof meaning inherent reliability, and batteries for low-power consumption. Validating our product advantages are our latest generation of sensors for implantable medical devices. These are the sensors that fit on the head of a pin. We're honored as one of the top products of 2009 by Medical Product Manufacturing News. We believe we've earned St. Jude's continuing business with excellent products, superb reliability, and a great track record for dependability as a supplier. We have filed our St. Jude agreements and amendments and they're available on the SEC's website or via our website. NVE products are available in more than 75 countries and our distributors speak countless languages. We recently added a Chinese language isolated website in cooperation with Shanghai Channel, our new distributor in China. The Chinese website is at nve-china.com.cn. Like our English site, the Chinese site has extensive product information, selector guides, and applications information. Shanghai Channel also provides hotline application support by native Mandarin Chinese speakers. As we've said before, the continuation of much of our contract R&D is contingent on us meeting project goals. Our R&D staff…

Operator

Operator

(Operator's Instructions) And we'll go first to Steven F. Crowley from Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Good afternoon, gentlemen. Congratulations on another really good performance. A couple of intriguing things I want to pick up on your prepared comments. I'm going to jump to the most intriguing disclosure which is that you made some notable progress it sounds like with the biosensor new product initiative. You mentioned target customer has some rather definitive plans to go to market with a system where you play a role in the consumable component. Can you tell us a little bit about the general nature of that customer? Are they a major established diagnostic company or a brand new entrant to the industry? I know you're going to be guarded there, but please paint us whatever picture you can in at least a general sense.

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Sure, Steve. They are a company with some experience in this industry that they do make clinical instruments now and they're looking at making a next generation of clinical instruments. So a clinical instrument would be used for a test that would be ordered by a medical professional. If we went into a clinic and needed to run a battery of tests, this would be an instrument that would be probably in an outside lab or perhaps in house in a large center. So it's geared for relatively high volume of testing. It's geared to do as many tests as quickly as possible. The better the information the better the diagnostic results. It's also possibly a step along the way to a laboratory on a chip although we envision this as a large instrument so it would be a tabletop instrument much as the analytical equipment is now. The advantages that we would provide we believe are faster analysis and an analysis of more possible conditions or more possible disease processes in a limited period of time so we see it as important. I did mention though that they're talking about within two years and there's development that remains to be done, but we're very encouraged by it and we believe it's a good validation of the technology, the biosensor technology that we have and that we've developed over the years.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Thank you for that additional detail and it does sound like from that detail they have a meaningful established presence in the business with existing customers and that this is a next generation system, is that correct for me to infer from your commentary?

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Yes, that's my understanding. I wouldn't be able to say exactly how large a presence they bring to the market, but they do have experience designing these types of instruments and they know they have a feeling of what would be best for a next generation product in the market so we feel they were an excellent customer to partner with.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Excellent. Now in terms of the other two higher-profile initiatives you've been talking to us about on a regular basis, I'm trying to figure out from your commentary kind of the order, the timeline for these, with all the caveats that that could change given any number of factors. It sound like you've made meaningful progress on both the magnetic compassing front and the MRAM front, but is it fair for me to infer that maybe the magnetic compassing front you're a little farther along the path to a truly commercial product and maybe MRAM out of three initiatives is the last or is that not very fair at all?

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Well, it really is hard to say. We have made good progress. Our R&D team we think has made excellent progress on both fronts, but they are different markets and they both have challenges remaining. We do view the anti-tamper market was a relatively specialized market. Primarily its military applications right now and I mentioned an example I think that highlights the importance of safeguarding critical technology so that's a market that we'll develop over the longer term. We believe that longer term of course that MRAM could be applicable to large-scale memory and that MRAM has tremendous potential there, but this is an intermediate step. It's an important step and it's an important product area, but it's a smaller density device that would be used for an encryption and anti-tamper. And compassing is a market that I think we sited in iSuppli. In our prepared remarks we cited an iSuppli study which said that the market would accelerate to 2013, but there is a market now, a smaller market, for GPS equipped handsets that need compasses. So some of this is driven by the market, some of it is driven by our own technical success, and so we're just not in a very good position to say when these will actually provide meaningful revenue.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

And in terms of that iSuppli data, in terms of the current modest market size and its expansion to 2013, could you give us a ballpark for the kind of market sizes that they're throwing out there?

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Well, they were forecasting a significant market at least towards the 2013 period, but they were talking about a product — I don't know if they gave specific numbers. They did say that it was a major new category and I don't know if that was quantified by dollars. And a lot of that depends on how it's positioned by the handset makers and what kind of software and applications that use GPS equipped handsets are out there. So it's a difficult thing to project. Our goal is to provide a better sensor and we're working with a customer who is an expert in this area and we're going to try to develop the best in class sensor. And if it does indeed turn into a significant market we hope to be there with the best part.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Great. One more question on the R&D front and then I'll hop back in the queue. As you mentioned in your prepared comments, your robust contract R&D line is a way for you to develop products and capabilities in areas of interest to your own product development efforts. It does have the favorable impact of reducing your income statement expenditures on R&D. So it create a picture where you're not spending a whole lot more on R&D and the Q3 this year versus Q3 last year, and I'm wondering if that's a little bit of a distorted picture. Is there a way for you to reference whether or not you're doing more projects this year than a year ago or you have more people working on development-type stuff versus a year ago, or is that a relatively accurate picture that you're working on about the same amount of stuff as a year ago?

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Well, that's a good question. Let me take a crack at it qualitatively and then maybe Curt might have something to add, but in general we have a pretty high level of R&D activity for a company our size and we'll report the specific numbers of company sponsored and customer sponsored R&D in our 10-K in our next SEC filing, but qualitatively I can just say it bounces around, but we've got an awful lot going on here and we are fortunate that a lot of it is that are our customers have been willing to sponsor our R&D which I think is a credit to the quality of our R&D and a credit to the capabilities of our staff. Curt, did you have something to add?

Curt A. Reynders

Management

Yeah. I think as Dan said that it's important that most of our R&D is supported by customers and doesn't hit our expense line. For example, total company sponsored and customer sponsored R&D spending increased 21% in the most recent fiscal year and was 17% of revenue.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Is that for the nine-month period year to date or was that for 2009?

Curt A. Reynders

Management

That was for fiscal 2009.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Okay. And you said it was up 21% year over year and was 17% of revenue in contrast to the 5.2% that you reported on the income statement?

Curt A. Reynders

Management

Right.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Okay, that's very helpful. Well, I'm going to hop back in the queue, but I do have some more questions so you'll probably hear from me again.

Operator

Operator

(Operator's Instructions) And we'll now take the followup questions from Steven Crowley with Craig Hallum.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

All right, guys. As I said I do have a couple more based on or more focused on your industrial business. You mention in your prepared comments that you saw a — I don't want to put words in your mouth, but the strength on the factory automation industrial control side of your industrial business. Were there some other areas, semiconductor manufacturing or electronic test or some other areas you might be able to mention that also seemed to demonstrate some strength on the industrial side?

Daniel A. Baker

Management

This is Dan. That's a good question, Steve, and it's difficult to cut it too high and I think we saw customers and we saw new customers and industrial control, things like fluid handling and things like that so these would be subcomponents that might go into a variety of factory systems so we don't always know exactly what they're going into. They tend to go into things for — they go into controls for factories to make durable goods. That could be automobiles, that could be durable consumer goods such as light goods. We also saw, and this is just qualitative, we saw some activity in medical instrumentation. Now that's different from medical devices. These would be medical instruments which are large instruments as opposed to implantable devices and we saw some activity there. So we are seeing some pockets of strength. Our perception is that there are also areas that continue to be weak and might take awhile to recover and things that fall into that category include automotive manufacturing and things like semiconductor capital equipment which has been fairly depressed. But I think the good news is that we are starting to see some signs of general economic recovery and it will probably be a little bit uneven and there'll be pockets of strength and weakness, but we're seeing some positive signs and we're seeing a pickup in industrial activity.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Great. In terms of another comment you made earlier in the call about having been able to keep in good stead in terms of your inventory on hand and meet the markets requirements for your coupler products in particular and referencing the fact that there may be or may have been some coupler shortages out there on the part of your competition that isn't selling Spintronic couplers, but other types of couplers. Do you think you've been able to pick up some customers at the margin from that situation one, and maybe more importantly, once you've opened the door to a customer using a Spintronic based coupler, has your experience been that you're pretty effective in keeping them using the Spintronic coupler versus going back to the other stuff?

Daniel A. Baker

Management

The second part of the question's easier to answer and that's that we do feel that we have a very good customer retention rate. These are devices that are smaller than competing couplers, they have less signal distortion which just makes the design easier and so we hear from engineers that once they use our couplers that they're very happy with them, they extend them into other designs, and they wonder why they've put up with things like optical couplers previously. So that's a little bit anecdotal, but I think we have a pretty good retention rate in our customers and we have some customers who've expanded their use of our couplers and other products over many years that they develop them into one design and move them into other designs and so we get the opportunity to grow them both in terms of their own organic growth and expanding into more products. And in terms of benefitting from our competitors' shortages, that's a little bit more qualitative, but we have heard stories of competitors who didn't have parts in stock or they had long lead times or even allocation meaning that they didn't have enough parts to go around to fulfil their orders. That's a situation which we never like to be in and I don't think we've ever really been in. So we've invested in keeping our capacity up, we've invested in inventories both finished goods and work in process so that we can respond to the recovery that we've seen so far and recovery that might be coming down the road, and I think many in the industry have been slow to respond and they've cut back their capital expenditures which has led to decreases in capacity. So it's hard to put a number on it and it's hard to say how important an effect it is, but we certainly have anecdotal evidence just from customers calling us who might not have talked to us unless there were shortages other places and we do our best to provide them with a great product to provide great application support if they need it, and our hope is that they're going to be customers for a very long time. That's been our experience in the past.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Great. Now switching gears, I just have two more questions and then I'll let you guys go. On the medical side of your business what can you tell us about the general complexion of that business and customer base now and anything on kind of its evolution or growth of the customer base?

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Well as you probably know, Steve, it's been a little bit of a challenging environment for implantable medical devices and there have been reports of softness in the procedures, the numbers of procedures for implantable medical devices in the past year or so, but that market does appear to be improving. And as far as our efforts as we've talked about before, we've targeted other areas of non life support medical where the design cycles are shorter than life support medical and where we believe we have convincing benefits in terms of having well, the four Bs that I mentioned where we've got smaller parts, more precise parts, inherent reliability, and lower power. So we've been targeting things like neurostimulators and that's a very broad category. We believe we've made some progress on that front. I don't have any specifics to report, and also we're finding that the long-term medical market seems to be very positive. The demographics are positive and there are many new therapies that are being developed that really have some amazing potential and we feel that we can help make those products better, help make them smaller, help make them more reliable, and so we see it as an excellent long-term market although perhaps in the relative past year or so it's been a little bit challenging.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

I appreciate that color. And then the final question I have relates to your contract R&D revenue line which has continued to be robust and you made some encouraging comments about the performance of your team on the work that you've had that's typically — I don't know if it's a precursor, but allows you to continue on many of those projects. So try to interpret that as to what it might mean financially, can we expect some modest growth in that category or it continuing to be around — it's been $1.3 million roughly for the last three quarters, how should we think about that business or that revenue line item I should say?

Curt A. Reynders

Management

Well, Steve, contract R&D revenue can fluctuate based on timing of awards, follow-on contracts — we have performed well and we have been able to get follow-on awards. Additional awards are difficult to predict because we got to perform to get the follow-on awards and also they're difficult to predict due to customer budgets. So it's real difficult to say whether our current R&D revenue may or may not be indicative of the future.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

I certainly understand those caveats, at the same time though should I interpret your earlier in the call comments about your performance in that business as a pretty positive report card right here and now on how you're doing and how it looks?

Daniel A. Baker

Management

We were certainly encouraged and we're getting good report cards from our customers which is the most important thing as to how we're performing, how we're meeting design objectives, how we're meeting schedules and budgets. So we are encouraged, but as Curt said we don't have a lot of visibility long term because these contracts tend to have specific milestones on them and we need to meet specific milestones or performance criteria in order for them to continue or be extended, but so far our R&D staff has really done a great job on developing things on tight schedules and some really remarkable technology.

Steven F. Crowley - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Management

Great. Well thanks again for taking my questions.

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Thank you, Steve.

Operator

Operator

And at this time we have no further questions in the question queue so I'll turn the call back over to management for any additional or closing remarks.

Daniel A. Baker

Management

Well thank you. We were pleased to report our best third quarter ever with a 12% increase in net income for the quarter driven by a 15% increase in product sales and we look forward to our next call tentatively in early May to report results for the full fiscal year. Thank you for participating in the call.

Operator

Operator

This does conclude today's conference. Thank you for your participation.