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NetScout Systems, Inc. (NTCT)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Jan 30, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to NETSCOUT's Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all parties are in a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer portion of the call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. Tony Piazza, NETSCOUT's Deputy CFO, and his colleagues at NETSCOUT are on the line with us today. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Tony Piazza to begin the company's prepared remarks.

Tony Piazza

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to NETSCOUT's Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 Conference Call for the period ended December 31st, 2024. Joining me today are Anil Singhal, NETSCOUT's President and Chief Executive Officer; Michael Szabados, NETSCOUT's Chief Operating Officer; and Jean Bua, NETSCOUT's Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. There is a slide presentation that accompanies our prepared remarks. You can advance the slides in the webcast in order to follow our commentary. Both the slides and the prepared remarks can be accessed in multiple areas within the Investor Relations section of our website at www.netscout.com, including the IR landing page under financial results, the webcast itself, and under financial information on the quarterly results page. Moving on to Slide number 3, today's conference call will include forward-looking statements. Examples of forward-looking statements include statements regarding our future financial performance or position, results of operations, business strategy, plans and objectives of management for future operations, and other statements that are not historical facts. Actual results could differ materially from any forward-looking statements. These statements speak only as of today's date and involve risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to those described on this slide and in today's financial results press release, which are available on the Investor Relations section of our website as well as in the company's most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K and subsequent SEC filings on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. NETSCOUT assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking information except as required by law. Let's now turn to Slide number 4, which involves non-GAAP metrics. While this slide presentation includes both GAAP and non-GAAP results, unless otherwise stated, the financial information discussed on today's conference call will be on a non-GAAP basis only. The rationale for providing non-GAAP measures along with the limitations of relying solely on those measures is detailed on this slide and in today's press release. These measures should not be considered in isolation from or as a substitute for financial information prepared in accordance with the GAAP. Reconciliations of all non-GAAP metrics with the applicable GAAP measures are provided in the appendix of the slide presentation in today's earnings press release and on our website. I will now turn the call over to Anil for his prepared remarks. Anil?

Anil Singhal

Analyst

Thank you, Tony, and good morning, everyone. Welcome and thank you all for joining us today. We delivered Q3 fiscal year 2025 revenue and earnings results that exceeded our expectations with strong performance across both our Cybersecurity and Service Assurance product lines. These results reflect solid execution and the strength of our differentiated solutions in addressing the evolving needs of our customers. It's important to note that certain customer orders initially anticipated in the fourth quarter were instead received in the third quarter as customers leveraged the calendar year end budgets. While the timing accelerated certain revenues into Q3, the contribution of these early orders have reinforced our confidence in achieving our full fiscal year 2025 goals and expectations. As we capitalize on opportunity to address the complexity of today's market, we remain confident in our ability to deliver value and meet our customer cybersecurity and service assurance needs now and into the future. Let's turn to Slide 6 for a brief recap of our non-GAAP financial results for the third quarter and first nine months of fiscal year 2025. For the third quarter, revenue was approximately $252 million, up approximately 16% compared to the prior year period. This performance was driven by strong results in both our Cybersecurity and Service Assurance product lines. Diluted earnings per share was $0.94 for the third quarter, which was up approximately 29% from previous year. For the first nine months of the fiscal year 2025 or the period ended December 31, 2024, revenue was approximately $618 million, down approximately 1% year-over-year, reflecting the impact of previously disclosed headwinds. This included unusually high levels of backlog-related revenue and the test optimization business divestiture that both benefited the prior year's results and affected the comparison. The corresponding diluted earnings per share for the first nine…

Michael Szabados

Analyst

Thank you, Anil, and good morning, everyone. Slide 10 outlines the area I will be covering today, starting with Q3 customer win highlights. Starting with our Service Assurance offerings, one notable win this quarter in the service provider customer segment was a hi-tech -- high-teen eight-figure order from a longstanding Tier 1 North American carrier customer for 5G related solutions as they further expand their network capacity. As Anil pointed out, this order was received earlier than anticipated in our fiscal year. We remain focused on supporting our carrier customers as they further advance their 5G network solutions. In the enterprise customer vertical of our service assurance offering, we are seeing a growing need for network visibility at the edges of our customers' networks. One notable deal was a multi-year enterprise license agreement order, ELA, it's called, with an aggregate value in the mid-teen eight figure range with additional amount in the -- amounts in the low seven-figure range. This win was from a leading domestic healthcare provider customer who had grown through acquisition and attempted with limited success to address user experience challenges at its remote clinics and physician offices using competitor and homegrown solutions. The customer plans to roll out our visibility solutions to thousands of locations over multiple years and phases during the ELA period. Shifting to our cybersecurity offering, we won a mid-seven figure order from a longstanding North American cable operator. This customer purchased our new Arbor Distributed Threat Mitigation System or DTMS solution that allows them to dynamically allocate their DDOS mitigation capacity to protect the emerging new edges of the network. In terms of go-to-market activities, we continue to actively promote our offerings to both existing and prospective customers at key industry events. In early December, we participated in the AWS Reinvent Conference…

Jean Bua

Analyst

Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. I will review key metrics for our third quarter and first nine months of fiscal year 2025 and provide some additional commentary on our fiscal year 2025 outlook. As a reminder, this review focuses on our non-GAAP results unless otherwise stated and all reconciliations with our GAAP results appear in the presentation appendix. Regardless, I will note the nature of any such comparisons. Additionally, all comparisons are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. Slide number 12 details the results for the third quarter and first nine months of fiscal year 2025. Focusing on our quarterly performance, total revenue for the third quarter of fiscal year 2025 was $252 million, up 15.6%. Product revenue was $128.2 million, an increase of 33.8%, while service revenue was $123.8 million, an increase of 1.3%. Gross profit margin was 82.8% in the third quarter, up 1 percentage point. Quarterly operating expenses increased 3.2%. Accordingly, we reported an operating profit margin of 35.6% compared with 29% in the same quarter last year. Diluted earnings per share was $0.94, which included an unrealized loss on a foreign investment of approximately $0.07. This was up 28.8% from $0.73 in the same quarter last year. Turning to Slide 13, I will review key revenue trends by product lines and customer verticals. Please note that all comparisons here are on a year-over-year basis, consistent with our other remarks. For the first nine months of fiscal year 2025, our Service Assurance revenue decreased by 5.5%, while our Cybersecurity revenues grew by 7.4%. As a reminder, we entered the prior fiscal year with approximately $50 million of backlog, which we did not get the benefit of this fiscal year. During the same period, our Service Assurance product line accounted for approximately 65% of our…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we will take our first question from Matthew Hedberg with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Mike Richards

Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. This is Mike Richards on for Matt. Thanks for taking the questions. Yeah, it was great to see the strength in the quarter. I think coming into the quarter, we kind of expected a muted budget flush from service provider, and you called out that high-teens eight-figure pull-in. But it kind of looks like guidance implies another $10 million or so pulled in. So maybe you could provide us some more detail on what changed here? Is there a bigger shift in trends and what service provider is looking to spend on? And then just like a broader update on your views in the IT spending environment?

Anil Singhal

Analyst

Yeah. I think the overall the business has stabilized, but I think on the service provider side, it was many of the service provider customers, their fiscal year starts in January. And so we always have this battle sometimes. Sometimes we get the -- our Q4 business in Q3. So that big order we're talking about was basically, think of it instead of getting X plus Y in two quarters, we got both X plus Y and so that's basically no big -- strategic reason is just that they had more confidence and they had more budget available this year and that was mainly the reason, but there is lot of activity in the -- spend is not -- it's not backed by spend right now, but there's a lot of activity in the 5G cloud area and slicing and other things, which NETSCOUT has invested a lot, but has not hit the revenue stream right now, so we expect that will be a the reason for spend in the next fiscal year.

Mike Richards

Analyst

Great. And then, you guys seemed excited about an emerging opportunity in fixed wireless, so I was just wondering if you could provide an update there, you know, maybe where we are in that journey?

Anil Singhal

Analyst

I think it's still early. We have evaluation going on with three or four customers right now and our solution is ready, but the amount of money spent on this is -- it could be huge because of the amount of traffic, so we are looking at some other creative way of looking at VIP traffic as a way to manage the situation. And --so at this point, we don't have any success to report in that area, but there continue to be interest in all top three or four customers of NETSCOUT.

Mike Richards

Analyst

Awesome. Thanks, guys, and congrats again.

Anil Singhal

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And we will take our next question from Kevin Liu with K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

Kevin Liu

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning, guys, and congrats as well on the strong performance here in the third quarter. Maybe just to go back to the service provider side of things, it certainly sounds like budgets have stabilized and we might be at the start of kind of a new upswing in spending there. As you look out for the rest of this calendar year, is that something that you guys are seeing and hearing from your customers as well? And then maybe just touch on some of these newer areas you're spending on, in particular, this large order, is that more tied to some of the legacy projects they've had going on, or are you actually seeing them invest in kind of new areas of monetization?

Anil Singhal

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

Yeah. So, I should look at, Kevin, is that I think business has sort of stabilized and you will see some swings because of large order from quarter-to-quarter. But next year, I mean, we are counting on our existing customers, but not necessarily growing in the traditional mobile service assurance area, but there are opportunities in cybersecurity. We have a product in the AI area, which we have talked about in the previous calls, and as earlier question indicated, there could be a spend in the fixed wireless area and slicing and other areas of 5G. There is some interest in utilities on the private 5G area. So, we look at our investment in the Service Provider area in 4G and 5G, not necessarily delivering in the growth in the traditional area, but in other areas as I just talked about.

Kevin Liu

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

Got it. And maybe just on your Cybersecurity products, very strong growth here in the third quarter. How did that split out between kind of enterprise versus Service Provider for Q3 specifically? And then as you look at your pipelines moving forward, do you think you can continue to accelerate your overall growth rate relative to what you've shown over the past nine months?

Anil Singhal

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

Yeah. So, Tony is checking us. I don't have the breakdown right now on this, but overall -- go ahead, Jean.

Jean Bua

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

So, Kevin, your question is in Service Provider and Security Service Provider and Enterprise for the quarter, how did they grow? On a quarter-over-quarter basis, Service Provider grew in close to the mid-20s and Enterprise grew close to the mid-30s percentage-wise.

Anil Singhal

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

So -- yeah, go ahead.

Kevin Liu

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

I'm sorry, I was going to just have you elaborate on that and kind of the future outlook there, whether you can sustain growth rates anywhere near these levels or how you're thinking about that.

Anil Singhal

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

Well, that was the quarterly one. As you know, the year-to-date is in the 7% or so range overall aggregate and -- but we hope that we can do much better in this area. A lot of the growth is in the DDoS area. As you know, we announced a new product in this area, Omnis Cybersecurity and there's lot of interest. We have a lot of valuation going on, but that is not a big contributor to this year's growth. So next year, we expect growth from that area, and as we share our guidance in the next quarter, for the next fiscal year, I will highlight that.

Kevin Liu

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

All right. Sounds great. Really appreciate you taking the questions.

Anil Singhal

Analyst · K. Liu & Company. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And it appears that we have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the program back to Tony for any additional or closing remarks.

Tony Piazza

Analyst

Excellent. Thank you, operator. This will conclude our call for today. Thank you for joining us and enjoy the rest of the day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's presentation. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.