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Nortech Systems Incorporated (NSYS)

Q4 2014 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 12, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Nortech’s Fourth Quarter 2014 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Paula Graff, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Thank you, Miss Graf, you may now begin.

Paula Graff

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Nortech Systems fourth quarter and fiscal 2014 conference call. I’m Paula Graff, Vice President and CFO, and with me is Rich Wasielewski, Nortech’s President and CEO. Following my introduction, Rich will offer comments on our fourth quarter results and fiscal year and some developments in the markets we serve and our industry. Then we’ll open up the call for your questions. Before we begin, please be advised that statements made during this call may be forward-looking and are subject to risk factors and uncertainties. Please see the Safe Harbor statements in our press release and SEC filings. Now, I will turn the call over to Rich Wasielewski. Rich?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Thank you, Paula, and good morning everyone. Yesterday we reported the fourth quarter and 2014 fiscal audit results and our 10-K filings with the SEC. Revenue topped a $112 million in sales for 2014 up slightly from the $111 million in fiscal 2013. Fourth quarter sales were $30.4 million up 4% year-over-year. Our 90 backlog at December 31, 2014 was $17.3 million that was up 7% over the prior year but down 18% from September 30, levels of $20.9 million. The majority of the backlog reduction in the quarter comes from two customers, one, our largest medical customer and the other a medical device company start up that took their first substantial order into the quarter that we ship the first substantial order in the quarter. We are now seeing signs that they will be working down their inventory over the first half of 2015 and it will impact their order patterns going forward. Our gross margins for 2014 were 11.9% a slight improvement of 10 basis points over prior year. The fourth quarter margin was lower by 60 basis points due to the heavy mix of industrial sales and working down that backlog. Operating income was down for the fourth quarter and in the year. The slight increase in gross margin was not enough to offset higher selling and G&A expenses in place to support the anticipated revenue increases in the business development activities. Although we increased nicely from the first quarter 16% in the fourth quarter, the mix and impact of the reduced backlog manufacturing didn’t allow for sufficient leveraging in the quarter. Net income for the year was $880,000 or $0.32 per share up 11% and was positively impacted by a favorable tax rate generated from a state tax audit settlement earlier in the year and a…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Sheldon [Indiscernible]. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning everybody.

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Good morning Sheldon.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

You may have covered it, but since we’re going very quickly for the presentation, why was the operating profit weaker in the fourth quarter, what was the principle clauses?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

There were, I would believe three issues. Number one is the industrial mix. The industrial mix is generally 50% of our business and with its growth it was 55% in the quarter. So that margin is just generally a little light. The next issue was the rundown of the backlog; it went from $20 million to $17 million. That came out of operations leveraging of our locations. And I think, the third is just the selling and expenses that we built up throughout the year, because we – I'm trying to mention that the first quarter was about $26 million and the fourth quarter was $30 million, so that was 16% increase and that was due to our investments in business development. I think I've been mentioning that throughout the conference calls over probably last two years that this is a growth in a cost strategy that we have in place. And we're investing in that area. And that cost is up. And we did not see it in the total revenue growth, going from 11 to 112 was not enough to offset the investment. I think it was in the $300,000 to $400,000 range. So, we were anticipating higher sales than we got. Is that that correct, Sheldon.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes. Thank you.

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

All right thank you. Thanks for your question.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question is coming from the line Vincent Rogato [ph] a Private investor. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning, everybody.

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Good morning, Vincent.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

How are you?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

All right.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good. Could you shed any light on the new contract that was announced I believe a month or so ago?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Yes. That was – you're taking about the Medovex?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes.

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Medical device, yes, that was a very nice deal for us as we've been in now the medical device business since 2010. And we've been working hard. I think I mentioned to you guys the processes and quality improvements and visiting with our supplier quality in that area, because that takes a whole, whole different quality management system than our industrial and defense business working with the FDA. So, we're real proud of that accomplishments and that were the combination of working with the design staff and also working with the end customer, Medovex. They are up and coming company. They're starting up a division. Their expertise is in the spine treatment area, and they have some ex-management from Medtronic's which is another feather in our hat that they knew us from the past and looked us up. So, all along that entire project is going to pay dividends thus all the way through. So, that dollar wise it's in its early stages. I can throw some numbers out, but those are proformas, but there's not a lot of dollars as we said. We did pick up from engineering a couple of $100,000 in engineering fees and now we're doing a prototypes and taking it into the engineering samples to move into their clinical testing and then in the years – it generally takes between 12 and 18 months go-to-market for these products. So, we probably won't see any majority production until the end of the year here third to fourth quarter and then the full production in 2016.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. In your opinion what would be your strongest segment?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Well, our…

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Your bonds revenue growth little potential, I'm sorry…?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Our company has tradition over 60% to 65% industrials that now are about 50% industrial. We were heavy in defense during the wars, up from like 35% to 40% and then in the medical was in the 15% to 20%. So medical now will be 38% this year, industrial will be 50% and I believe aerospace going be 12% -- 12% to 13%. And that's an ideal situation be a third to third to third, but the growth in medical is by design and by strategy. The industrial, its – we do not – when you talk about industrial commercial for us, we don't deal with consumer automotive, communications, we deal with heavy capital equipment on, that's why emphasizing in our call, the capital equipment markets, and they were – they really took a hit and have been lagging since the financial recession here. But we're seeing that come back. I mean, there are 30% from just the – we’re just happy with that return and as long as we can keep growing the medical area, that will serve us well. The last piece of that is that we are to in our – we call it the aerospace and defense segment, but there's only about 10% of that business is aerospace, pure aerospace. We spend way too much time in the defense business during the wars and did migrate enough to the aerospace. So, we're little bit behind the times there and that's going to take some strategic investment.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And I’m from…

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

I'm sorry.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I assume the medical has the highest margins or am I'm not correct on that?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Yes. They're by far the higher margins and that how depending on the product, but they are definitely in the higher margins. I think if you found companies just in the medical area, you can see between 20% and 35% to 40% depending on the product in the competition. Our industrials can go from 10% to 20% depending on the amount of the quantity, the delivery, the complexity, the box builds they got a lot of material content. We're still in the contract manufacturing business where our value added is engineering and labor, not – although we need to be competitive material wise it's still in those two areas and that's a very competitive market. Defense used to be, it's getting very competitive with lot of capacity out there and lot of pressure from the budget. So, there's no question that we have put our eye on in the investments in medical, first because the segment by itself is growing, the market is growing, and that's where the money is and that's where the gross margin is.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes. I mean, and that's what you can control, I mean, I saw the control budgets, government budgets, let me -- last question I'm sorry that I’ve taken so much time, but let me…

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

No, that’s fine, I'm sure the other callers are interested as well.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

The reason I ask, let me get your opinion on your stock like I said, I am an individual investor, so I own about 7,000 shares in total, [indiscernible] for almost two years now. It seems like every time you guys get a spike in price, it gets sold right back down. Last, I believe last quarter November we had nice spike into the [Indiscernible] it comes right back down, what are your thoughts on that? And what you think that is?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Our float is definitely low, that's number one. And we just talked about it for the last few minutes and how 400 shares turned almost 7% in a matter of 400 shares. So, we are lightly traded and that's a big part of it. So, the long term in the fundamentals when I'm selling to investors and talking to investors, I'm selling the long-term and that functionality of us, the foundation that we have. Again, we return $1.22 million roughly 3.5% to 4% return and that's been consistent what we've done. We're trying to add shareholders value for the long-term talking about 8.5 to 8.75 equity market capital, capital value stock versus the 5.50, 5.60 we are today. So, we're under our book value and that is pretty realistic for most of the EMS markets, the public companies.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

You consider stock under value?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

Of course I would say it's undervalued, but I think we're in for a long haul, I think the fundamentals are very strong. Our balance sheet is relatively strong, it could be stronger, we are carrying a little bit too much inventory, but that's to service our customers. We're not – we're probably average in the industry as far as inventory returns. We've got a great record on receivables in collections, so we're not mainly distressed. We're investing in the right things. I think the investment we've made this year in automation, 3D printers, medical device areas and processes are all building long term shareholders value and that’s what we do here at Nortech.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. I'm just – I'm trying justify reason to holding up 3% growth stock and like I said I got 7,000 shares and sitting in quite a while at this morning's price, I'm probably even now. So alright, I really appreciate your opinion and your feedback?

Richard Wasielewski

Analyst

All right. Well, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. There are no additional questions at this time. We will now turn back to Mr. Rich Wasielewski for closing comments.