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Neptune Insurance Holdings Inc. (NP)

Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Sat, Nov 11, 2017

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Bill McCarthy

Management

[Call Starts Abruptly] We released earnings yesterday afternoon and reported our best ever third quarter sales and operating income. This was led by record results in our Technical Product segment, but also benefited from net proceeds of just over $3 million from an insurance settlement. This settlement was for reps and warranties related to the loss of a customer back in 2015 when we acquired FiberMark. These items combined more than offset costs for start-up of our North American filtration business and higher costs this quarter in Fine Paper & Packaging. Earnings per share were $1.10, up 16% from $0.95 last year. The increase was due to the higher operating income and a lower tax rate following our decision last quarter not to repatriate overseas earnings. On an adjusted basis, earnings per share of $1.02 increased 3% from $0.99 last year. Adjusted earnings this year excluded $0.12 per share for the insurance settlement and $0.04 per share in both years for acquisition and restructuring costs. As a reminder, adjusted earnings are intended to improve comparability between periods and a detailed reconciliation of GAAP and non-GAAP measures is included in our press release. Also, I’ll note that our comments today may include forward-looking statements and that actual results could differ from these statements due to uncertainties and risks that we’ve outlined in our SEC filings and on our website. With that, I’ll turn things over to John O’Donnell. John O’Donnell: Thanks, Bill, and good morning, everyone. I said on our last call that it’s been a busy year at Neenah, but let me assure you that hasn’t changed. In addition to delivering good financial results in the quarter aided by strong growth in targeted product categories, our teams completed a number of important strategic initiatives. I’ll start with our financial results.…

Bonnie Lind

Management

Thanks, John. Good morning, everyone. As usual, I’ll go through results in each of our segments and then cover a few corporate items. Let me start today with Technical Products. As you heard earlier, we had a great quarter with record results in this segment. Sales of $126 million increased 10% from a year ago. While aided by favorable currency translation from a stronger euro, the biggest driver was volume which increased 7%. We continue to see strong market demand for our performance materials with the growth of new abrasive backings in Asia, increases in tape and specialties and continued market success with our harsh environment labels. Filtration also performed very well growing topline by double digits. In addition to volume and currency, higher average prices added 100 basis points to our growth rate. This was due to increased sales of higher value transportation filters as well as improved selling prices in performance materials as price adjusters and actions taken earlier in the year took effect. Operating income of $16 million was a third quarter record and up 11% from last year. The increased income resulted from higher volumes and better manufacturing costs. While part of the manufacturing improvement was due to the German filtration down moving to the fourth quarter, the largest part of the increase resulted from better operations and improved productivity. These items more than offset the anticipated loss in our North American filtration business as well as $1 million of higher input costs. As we’ve discussed, cost for latex and resins were a significant headwind in the first half of this year. In the third quarter while costs were still elevated, we started to see some moderation as well as benefits from our pricing activity. Turning to Fine Paper & Packaging, revenues of $113 million were…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. O’Donnell. [Operator Instructions] Your first question will come from Jon Tanwanteng of CJS Securities.

Pete Lucas

Analyst

It’s Pete Lucas for John. You touched on a lot at the end here on the Coldenhove acquisition with regards to sales and synergies and appreciate that. Just wanted to know from a strategic perspective, can this be a platform for future bolt-on acquisitions? John O’Donnell: Yes. I think as we broaden the number of potential products and materials that we have in Technical Products, they all can be extended. We view the dye sublimation market, which is predominantly what the acquisition for Coldenhove has, as a fairly defined market with significant growth. So, we’ll see with printing technologies if they help that category explode. From our standpoint, we had developed a dye sublimation product in our own system and with any time that we’re going to deploy capital, we look and see if there’s an alternative in the marketplace that we can more capital efficiently acquire and that’s what we did with Coldenhove. So I think what we see is that it’s a $200 million category, we’re sitting at about a 30% share and can drive good growth there in the future. It does give us another position in Europe for other products in Europe as well. So from that standpoint, I don’t know if the technology that they have would really be incredibly extendable, but it’s definitely a profitable niche that we’ve got a strong leading position in.

Pete Lucas

Analyst

And then a follow-on there. You talk about the financial capacity to pursue more M&A and that is part of one of the goals. Just give us a general idea of what the pipeline looks like going forward if you could? John O’Donnell: This is always one and I went back and looked at what I say every time for this question. This is always one of the hardest things for me to answer in that sense. But we have dedicated resources, they continue to use M&A and the pipeline to drive and change the growth trajectory of the business. From our perspective, we still see it as a very viable. When I stop talking about M&A, the pipeline’s dried up, right. So if I’m still talking about it’s a viable part for changing the growth trajectory, it means I’m looking at companies that I think would be a meaningful and profit adding addition to Neenah.

Pete Lucas

Analyst

Had a bunch of others, but you did a great job and answering them all already. So, I’ll jump back in the queue. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Steve Chercover of DA Davidson.

SteveChercover

Analyst

So, my first question is on paper where I mean you still sound quite bullish and clearly there’s some neat opportunities with the cards and the packaging, but the margins were the weakest in several years and I guess pulp is part of it and transportation is part of it. Normally you pass this through. Are these -- the margins that you saw in Q3 the new normal or will that go back higher? John O’Donnell: They’re not the new normal. This is a business, I know you’ve seen the trends. But we’ve been -- 5 years ago we were in that 14% and we were as high as 16%. So, that 14% to 16% is really where these EBIT margins have a tendency to hover and where we’d expect that business. I think there was a trifecta of ugliness that happened in the quarter. I talked about the operating so we had the downs, we had some of the challenges with some of the issues. We also highlighted the distribution costs and this was really the first quarter where we really felt those and believed those are going to be an important piece overall. We do have pricing. So the input costs that we talked about would love to have captured pricing at or before actually the price increases, but pulp pricing has just been stubbornly increasing all year from that standpoint and I mean you have to go back a lot of years to find the last time we announced 2 price increases in the same year. So I think it was a challenging low margin for the quarter for that group, but by no means is it expectation that it steps out of that 14% to 16% EBIT margin.

Steve Chercover

Analyst

I mean pulp has been extraordinary so you’re right there. I guess are you investigating the opportunities to maybe partner with some shippers in your localities so that you can be part on the backhaul or something? I mean there’s got to be… John O’Donnell: I think that no stone unturned is probably the best way to think about from our distribution. So, we are really challenging the ways we’ve thought. How much do we keep in spot market to get flexibility with customers? Do we need to change the way our customers think about the lead times associated with their adding significant cost? How much do our customers participate in that transport? Those are all things that we’re going to absolutely look at whether they -- it’s in their order quantities or so on. So, I think no rock’s unturned. We’ll definitely be talking about this I think in the quarters as to what changes we’re making and you’ll definitely be able to see if we’re able to fully offset it, which is our intention.

Steve Chercover

Analyst

Okay. And can you please remind us how many years of growth will the new filtration machine provide? John O’Donnell: We’ve historically grown I think over the last 10, 13 years at that 8% CAGR from that. So, our perspective is that 5 years of that 8% CAGR that asset should continue to support.

Steve Chercover

Analyst

Okay. So five years’ worth, got it. All right, that’s really all I had. I guess Bill owes me a beer on the name change. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And the next question will come from Dan Jacome of Sidoti & Company.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

I’m going to miss the old name as well, but makes a lot of sense in that I don’t think it’s going to be too much of a surprise given what’s been going on with the business the last couple years. First, Appleton and then back to Coldenhove. So just for Appleton, it looks like you doubled from 7 to 14 qualified customers, I think the goal was 28 going back a couple of quarters. So just incrementally, what did you learn this quarter versus 2Q? If you could just give us a high level view on that first. John O’Donnell: So, you’re referencing numbers that I mentioned last quarter and I appreciate that diligence and that follow up. That 40% is the one I wanted to kind of grant you and I was thinking how can I help communicate how we’re moving along this process if you will. So, the biggest learning is that I do not control my customers’ qualification timing. So up to here when we were in the start-up phase of the asset, how quickly we were able to staff it, how quickly we were able to get salable product, meet specifications of products that we knew we were going to transfer throughout our systems; all of that was more in our control. As we move forward, there’s been a number of consolidating acquisitions in the filtration space. I have a tendency to kind of consume people’s attention from that standpoint, but the enthusiasm of customers continues to be there. So if I’m guilty of anything, I’m guilty of optimism not on a poor investment in this. And that likely this customer phase might spread out our startup from what I was hoping, but we’re still saying and we still believe very firmly that we’ll be at that breakeven point by the end of next year with the rest of the quarters continuing to have improving topline and improving bottom line results.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Not to harp on that, but was that always the goal that late 2018 breakeven or I have a feeling it was second half communicated earlier? Just want to make sure nothing’s changed too much. John O’Donnell: No, late is still in the second half. That’s the good news from me in my consistency. But what I would tell you is that when you ask my learning, it really is as much as I want it to be earlier. My customers are going to drive that qualification process and that I can’t control. So, I’m trying to make sure that I’m establishing realistic objectives and realistic fence posts for you all to keep focusing on how we’re coming up on this project.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Well, you double the customers qualified, I mean so big picture that’s what I’m looking at. That looks encouraging. I wanted to talk about Coldenhove. So, really interesting acquisition I think here. Just a couple of questions. How are you going to use what you acquired? I mean I think you -- if my math is right, you already had 7% of the digital transfer addressable market; now you’re going to 30% so going up for the -- on the market share. How are you going to use what you acquired to complement what you’re already doing? And then I was wondering if your current digital transfer business before the acquisition, was that also mostly based out of Europe? And then on the last question on Coldenhove, just underlying growth rates for some of these markets? I’m not too familiar with printing images on apparel, but is that kind of like 3% to 4%? How should we think about that? John O’Donnell: Now think of this as growth rates in the high single digits so that’s 5% and above. That certainly in the higher single digits. And then we were predominantly in more of a technology of heat transfer in the United States and have a leading position in it. They are predominantly in dye sublimation. So heat transfer enables the image to transfer on to more of a cotton base where dye sublimation on to a synthetic base, both have the goal of that transfer. So we have strong U.S. distribution, they would have strong European distribution. We actually were creating a dye sublimation in one of our assets. With their capabilities and the capacity that we have, and one of the opportunities is to continue to utilize their capacity, we see that as a big opportunity for us in balancing the global capacity. And they were a two paper machine mill, we have 18 other paper machines across our system so that for us to look and say how can we optimize that. So we see 30% sitting today, growth mid-teens or mid-single digits going forward, complementary distribution basis. Those are the big priorities.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

All right. So, now you’re going to be in the U.S. and Europe. Is there a cross selling opportunity there or should we just think about the heat transfer and dye sublimation as kind of like two separate animals here? John O’Donnell: There are two product solutions, but they’re not regionally constrained. So, we’ve not had the infrastructure to really support increased distribution in Europe, which Coldenhove will bring us. They’ve been challenged in driving their U.S. distribution, which we’ll be able to deliver for them. They typically sold two different product solutions through similar customer basis.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Okay. That brings me to my last question. You’re not going to like the question. But you acquired a company with 23% share, I think you paid one-time revenue. Any color on that? I mean how should we think about it? You’re engaged with this company for quite some time and it just made the most sense for them to go with you, is it a competitive bidding process, anything there? It feels like you got a great price. It feels like you got too good of a price, I’m just curious. John O’Donnell: Yes. And I’m trying to figure out in that question what’s the part I’m not going to like. So, here’s what I would tell you. The market size itself is 200 million for the digital transfer. To some people, that’s not enthusiastic. I’d look for meaningful, profitable, growing categories and building those. We with our ROIC focus for us, whenever we have capital in our plans, we look for a market solution where we can acquire something more capital efficient that we could build it and that happens to be the case here. So for us, we were uniquely pointed towards them where we are at and it made obvious. We were exclusive with them in this whole process so I think that’s really a key thing. And if you look back quite candidly in most of our acquisitions, especially ones of this size, it’s because we focus on the market back from a solution not getting a book for sale to that end. So, that’s why. They found a good home because we believe in the strategy and can deliver some real meaningful value with them. We’re able to provide value to our shareholders immediately with the acquisition price. As you know, I always say friends don’t let friends overpay for companies. So, that’s what our disciplined acquisition process is about.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Okay. Pretty addressable market, the digital transfer -- I think the answer is no. But the digital transfer of 200 million, that’s not included in the 650 million graphic imaging addressable market that you have outlined, right? John O’Donnell: Yes, that’s exactly right. The 650 million we have outlined is the graphic imaging from the Fine Paper & Packaging business, it’s typically on the fine paper side of the business, retail and commercial combined.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Okay. That’s good. I mean so your addressable market if my math is right, you have 200 million for the digital transfer, 650 million for the fine paper and then 450 million for the premium packaging so 1.3 billion. That sounds about right? John O’Donnell: Yes. I never add them up like that together. But what I would tell you is you highlighted the growth markets and that’s exactly our strategy is finding markets that are continuing to grow, we can get increased share.

Dan Jacome

Analyst

Okay. Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t double counting. All right.

Operator

Operator

And at this time, we will conclude the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Bill McCarthy for his closing remarks.

Bill McCarthy

Management

Once again, thank you all for your time and your interest today. Please feel free to reach out to me if you have any further questions or if you’re Steve Chercover to collect your bet. Thanks again.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference call. We thank you for joining. At this time, you may disconnect your lines.