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Noah Holdings Limited (NOAH)

Q2 2014 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 12, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Noah Holdings Limited Second Quarter 2014 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following management's prepared remarks, there will be a Q&A session. During the Q&A session, we ask that you please limit yourselves to two questions and one follow-up, so that we may have further participation. If you would like to ask further questions, you may reenter the question queue to do so. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Joining the conference today are Ms. Jingbo Wang, Co-Founder, Chairwoman and CEO; Ms. Theresa Teng, company's CFO; and Ms. Frances Chia-Yue Chang, Executive Director. Before the opening of U.S. market on Tuesday, Noah issued a press release announcing its second quarter 2014 financial results, which is available on the company's IR webpage, ir.noahwm.com. This call is also being webcast live and will be available for replay purposes on the company's website. I would like to call your attention to the Safe Harbor statements in connection with today's call. The company will make forward-looking statements, including those with respect to expected future operating results and expansion of its business. Please refer to the risk factors inherent in the company's business and that had been filed with the SEC. Actual results can be materially different from any forward-looking statements the company makes today. Noah Holdings Limited does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statement as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required under the applicable laws. The results announced today are unaudited and are subject to adjustments in connection with the company's audit. Additionally, certain non-GAAP measures will be used in our financial discussion. A reconciliation of GAAP and non-GAAP financial results can be found in the earnings press release issued on the company's website. I would now like to hand the call over to Ms. Wang. She will be speaking in Chinese and her statements will be translated into English. Ms. Wang, please go ahead.

Jingbo Wang

Co-Founder

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. With me today is Ms. Theresa Teng and Mr. Frances Chang, Executive Director of the company. Theresa has tendered her resignation for personal reasons and the resignation will be effective September 10, 2014. I would like to take this opportunity to thank Theresa for the contribution she has made to the company. After due consideration, the Board has appointed Frances to be acting Chief Financial Officer and will commence the search for permanent CFO. Today, I will begin the call by briefly reviewing our performance in the second quarter of 2014 and discuss the progress of our corporate strategy. Then I will ask Frances to briefly introduce herself. Afterwards, Theresa will discuss the detail of our second quarter financials. We will be happy to take your questions after that. In the backdrop of a slowing economy, we still achieved a solid performance in the second quarter. The operating and financial metric all reached historic highs. The aggregate value of wealth management products distributed during the quarter was RMB18.2 billion or $2.9 billion, a 46.6% increase year-over-year. For the quarter, we distributed financial products to 3,538 active clients, an increase of 36% compared to the same quarter last year. Net revenue and non-GAAP net income were $71.4 million and $24.6 million, an increase of 61.4% and 52.8% respectively. We continue to provide comprehensive wealth management and asset allocation solutions to our clients powered by our asset management capabilities. Our asset management business, Gopher, grew in the second quarter with assets under management reaching RMB47.3 billion or $7.6 billion, an increase of 23.5% compared to the end of first quarter. It is worth highlighting that two real estate funds managed by Gopher matured this quarter, ahead of schedule, and realized IRR…

Frances Chia-Yue Chang

Management

Thank you, madam Wang, and hello everyone. I have been Noah's Director since August 2005 and currently the Execute Director, Chief Market Officer of Noah Holdings and the CEO of Noah Upright. I have more than 20 years of experience in the asset management industry. I worked for Greater China and Southeast Asia region of Robeco Hong Kong Limited as the CEO from 2007 to mid-2011. Prior to that, I served as China CEO and Senior Vice President of ABN AMRO Asset Management Asia Limited. During that same period, I was the chairman of ABN AMRO Xiangcai Fund Management Company Limited in China. Before the years with ABN AMRO Asset Management, I was at Kwang Hua Securities Investment & Trust Company Limited in Taiwan as CEO. I thank our Board of Directors for their trust to appoint me as the acting Chief Financial officer and precede Theresa. I would put my best effort to ensure smooth transition. Now I will ask Theresa to share with you our second quarter financial information. Thank you.

Theresa Teng

CFO

Good morning. Before updating our second quarter results, I would like to announce that for personal reasons, I will resign from the position effective September 2, 2014, and will remain at the company as advisor to assist the transition. Frances is a very experienced and respectful veteran in the field with a very in-depth understanding of the firm and expertise. I truly believe the transaction will be very smooth and she will continue to lead the team to the newer heights. With the strong demand at wealth management needs from our clients, the diversified product mix and the discrete risk controls, the overall quarterly performance including transaction value, net revenue and net income, all surged to another new height this quarter. Net revenue was $71.4 million, which increased 61.4% year-over-year. Non-GAAP net income was $24.6 million, 52.8% growth year-over-year. And the transaction value reached RMB18.19 billion, a 46.6% growth year-over-year. Total net revenues for the quarter reached $71.4 million, which is the new record of quarterly revenue the company has ever achieved. Revenue growth was driven by strong transaction volume, the increasing recurring revenue which is further enhanced by our growing asset under management. We also recognized revenue of performance fee for $11.4 million generated by two Gopher real estate funds in the second quarter. For the composition of our product in second quarter, key products increased to 29.3% of transaction value from 16.8% in the previous quarter. Equity products increased to 3.3% from 2.5% in the first quarter. Fix income products still remained the majority, accounted for 64.3% of overall transaction value this quarter. Third-party trust product accounted about 8% of total transaction value compared to about 13% in the fourth quarter of last year and 9% in the first quarter of this year. Effective one-time commission rate for…

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) And the first question comes from Michael Li with Bank of America-Merrill Lynch.

Michael Li - Bank of America-Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Bank of America-Merrill Lynch

The first question is regarding product mix. In the second quarter, we noted that fixed income transaction value was relatively flat. The major increase was from private equity. Can the management give some indication on the future part of mix going forward? And also, the relatively flat growth of fixed income transaction value, is this due to macro environment? We noticed that for the trust industry as a whole in China, the growth has also been relative flat. And in the second quarter, did we fund rate any big private equity investment manager which resulted in the large increase? And also, can you comment on the investors' appetite for private equity going forward? The second question is regarding relationship managers. We noticed that in the second quarter, relationship managers increased by 80 personnel, reaching 690. What is the strategy going forward on hiring new relationship managers? As we know, branch network did not increase. So can you comment on this please?

Jingbo Wang

Co-Founder

For the first question, since the beginning of this year, we have highlighted that in terms of product mix, we'll be focusing on equity product. For both Asia related product as well as private equity, which is more of a long-term product, we think that in this environment it will be value-added to our clients. So the product mix that you see in the second quarter reflects the strategy that we have been implementing for the first half of this year. Going forward, I remain pretty confident about the growth of our equity product and asset category. Regarding the relationship manager question, we have been rolling out and implementing elite relationship management program. So you've noted that the quality and the productivity of our relationship manager has increased meaningfully, in the second quarter, we have hired new relationship managers and we'll be training them and teach new relationship managers will be increasing or helping to increase our transaction value in 2015 and going forward.

Operator

Operator

And the next question comes from (inaudible).

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And my question is related to the performance fee we recognized during the quarter. Is this the first time that we see such income be recognized in our P&L? And I would like to know how we should expect this revenue trend to go going forward.

Theresa Teng

CFO

About the performance fee, I mentioned in our remarks that this is one-time and non-recurring and we will have some remain carries in the future, but which is not predicted in our total forecast. And we will expect that more in the future.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So we do not have the asset funds managed by us and that will be realized in the future and generate performance fee?

Theresa Teng

CFO

It will because the performance fee is in nature unpredictable. It depends on the project performance.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So this is what you said is one-time and non-recurring, right?

Theresa Teng

CFO

Yes. For example, we mentioned in our remarks two Gopher funds actually are ahead of schedule, which is better than expected. So sometimes, it will be better than expected and then we remain conservative on predicting about future carry, but there will be more.

Jingbo Wang

Co-Founder

Performance fee in part of our asset management business, so I will not characterize it as a one-time non-recurring revenue, except cash flow and the recognition of this performance fee is more typical to predict. Currently out of the higher asset management under Gopher, about $1.7 billion asset under management have carry or performance fee term. So this will help us to generate more carry or performance fee revenue going forward.

Operator

Operator

We have a question from (inaudible).

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Just one follow-up on the one-time performance fee. I couldn't find the numbers in the announcement. Can we know how much exactly did we earn on that transaction?

Theresa Teng

CFO

It's $11.4 million.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And this is included in which part of the financial statement?

Theresa Teng

CFO

Near revenue in the related party part.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And if I noticed correctly, the expenses also increased because of this performance fee. How much is the related cost related to this performance fee?

Theresa Teng

CFO

The performance fee, that comes with the direct cost, the bonus, but the percentage is not convenient to reveal at the moment. But as I said in my remarks, it excludes the effects of the performance fee and actually the profit margin will remain similar as of the first quarter.

Operator

Operator

And the next question comes from (inaudible) of CICC.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I want to confirm regarding the $11.4 million of performance fee. Is this related to the two real estate funds managed by Gopher that matured in this quarter? And also, you mentioned that there will be more investment into the Gopher asset management business. Can you give us some more color on the future development of this segment, in particular for real estate funds, what will be the IRR level that we should expect going forward?

Jingbo Wang

Co-Founder

I would like to confirm that the $11.4 million of performance fee revenue is coming from the two real estate funds managed by Gopher, which matured in the second quarter of this year. Since we have established Gopher Asset Management business in 2010, we have been focused on equity product as well as fixed income product. Now because of the effective strategies from our investment team that we have built over the last few years, I think we have culminated to a strong performance by our funds. As mentioned earlier, out of the total AUM managed by Gopher, about $1.7 billion of AUM has performance fee terms. So this will also provide a good basis for additional performance fee revenue in the future.

Operator

Operator

And the next question comes from [Bill Garrison], a retail investor.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Was wondering if you could speak to challenges you see in second half of the year with regards to profitability after a very strong first half and your decision to keep your profit guidance the same as last quarter.

Jingbo Wang

Co-Founder

A couple of points. One, we remain very confident on achieving the net profit guidance that we have given to the market. One of the main considerations for not adjusting the net income guidance for the full year is because in the second quarter, we reported the performance fee revenue, which was ahead of schedule, as we mentioned earlier in the call. Now in terms of the challenges for the second half, if you may know, China's economy as a whole is slowing down. So I think the risk or intent for us is how do we continue to focus on risk management, how do we focus on maintaining a rigorous product selection strategy to offer a quality product to our clients.

Operator

Operator

There are no more questions at the present time. So I would like to turn the call back to management for any closing comments.

Jingbo Wang

Co-Founder

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to updating you about our third quarter results in October. Thank you.