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NewMarket Corporation (NEU)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 29, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the NewMarket Corporation’s Second Quarter 2015 Financial Results Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host Mr. Brian Paliotti. Thank you, sir. You may begin.

Brian Paliotti

Analyst

Thank you Adam. And thanks everyone for joining us this afternoon. With me today is Teddy Gottwald, our Chairman and CEO. As a reminder, some of the statements made during this conference call may be forward-looking. Relevant factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those forward-looking statements are contained in our earnings release and our SEC filings including our most recent Form 10-K. During this call, we may also discuss non-GAAP financial measures included in our earnings release. The earnings release, which can be found on our website, includes a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to comparable GAAP financial measures. We plan to file our 10-Q later today and it contains significantly more details on the operations and the performance of the company. Please take time to review it. Our comments today will be referring to the data that was included in last night’s press release. Net income was $59 million or $4.72 a share compared to net income of $67 million or $5.24 a share for the second quarter of last year. Earnings for both second quarter periods included the impact of valuing an interest swap at fair value. Excluding net special item from both periods, earnings for this year's second quarter would have been $58 million or $4.65 a share compared to $68 million or $5.35 a share. Petroleum additives operating profit for the quarter was $94 million which is a $15 million or 13.8% lower than last year's record Q2 performance. Total sales for the quarter decreased 9.6% to $561 million compared to sales for the same period last year of $620 million. The decrease in revenue in petroleum additives in the quarter comparison was mainly driven by foreign exchange and shipments. The foreign exchange impacts were mainly driven by the euro and…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Ivan Marcuse with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead with your question.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Sorry, thanks for taking my questions, appreciate it. First question is, a lot of companies in the industrial materials chemical space is planning to reset North America as an area of strength relative to rest of the world whereas you guys saw some weakness. Is there, with the miles driven sort of going in the correct trend and everything else, that trend seem to be more positive. Why do you think your business was weak in North America, is this more of a timing issue or is there something else going on?

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst

Ivan, this is Teddy. We did see strengthening on the fields in North America and worldwide mainly because it's a miles driven impact you mentioned. The weakness on the lub side, we don’t read anything into it as we see it is more timing than anything else.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Okay. And then there is also a chat around China being weaker and Asian just channel, have you seen any sort of anything that's changes I guess near term fundamentals in terms of production rates coming down on auto or seeing a slowdown in demand in any way that would influence you in one direction or another?

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst

Yes, the slowdown in auto production and sales in China is having some impact on our business but when you look at it in a context of the total picture it's a minimal near term impact. China is still growing albeit not as fast as we would all like it to but it still a growing market and the near term changes really are hard for us to measure.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Got you. And then if you look at, if it's time for a finance question, but if you look at your sales didn’t really change quarter-to-quarter, raw materials, oil and few other things seem to have been going sideways I guess from second, for the second quarter, the first quarter and your currencies are pretty the same second, first quarter. Why would your gross margin compress, is there something else that was going on or something that would, that influenced that, that maybe I don’t think of?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst

Ivan, this is Brian. I think what you are seeing is raw materials flattening or stabilizing through Q2 and the FX impact that we experienced in Q2 was marginally worse than it was in Q1.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Got you. Is there anything compressing by its nature?

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst

No, sure.

Brian Paliotti

Analyst

No, anything fundamental changes, no.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Great. And then last question. Your R&D and SG&A expenses look pretty much the same in the second half as they have been in the first half?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst

Yes, we are going to continue to invest in R&D in support of the customers as we had in the first half, and [indiscernible] be any material changes.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Great. So there wasn’t any sort of big project or anything like that in R&D that you had to spend in the first half that you've don’t in the second half?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst

No.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Great. Thanks a lot for taking my questions. I appreciate.

Brian Paliotti

Analyst

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Todd Vencil with Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Todd Vencil

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Thanks. Hey Brian and Teddy.

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

How are you doing?

Todd Vencil

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Good, thanks. Brian following up on one of those last couple of answers there. Did FX represent a headwind on margins or was it really just the top-line translation impact?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Both.

Todd Vencil

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Can you give us a sense of how much margin impact?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

I can't Todd, I don’t have that in front of me. But it was impact on both sides, both on revenue and margin.

Todd Vencil

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Okay, alright. There was, you called and quantified certainly the production revenue from shipments and from currency, you didn’t really callout the pricing and obviously it was a small impact just looking at those numbers that you gave. Are you seeing your product prices adjusting either automatically or in the competitive market in response to the reduction in raw material cost or is that not really happening?

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

We've seen some of that guide in the -- throughout this year with raw materials dropping currently.

Todd Vencil

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Teddy do you think you are getting some benefit where with the lower raws, it's a little bit margin accretive for you in a sustainable way?

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Well moving raw material costs in crude oil and foreign exchange always is a normal course of the business for us and we manage through. We have seen more dramatic movements in both here in this year. But we are managing room in a normal course of business and our guidance to you about our margins being in the mid to upper teens hasn’t changed.

Todd Vencil

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Got it. That’s helpful. And it sound like I mean, can you, you are talking for a while about the higher level of CapEx over next several years. Can you just remind us of given expanding on what you said before in terms of what sort of, what level of that CapEx is going through beyond the plans that we know you've been working on in Asia for a while?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

I can directionally tell you that a lot of the increase will be new capacity. It's substantial for us, it's not currently enough to move the industry supply demand picture. But we are looking at adding beyond the current Singapore construction. And probably next time we'll have a little bit more detail for you on that.

Todd Vencil

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Got it. I look forward to that. And thanks a lot.

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Thank you.

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst · Sterne Agee CRT. Please go ahead with your question.

Thanks Todd.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from the line of Dmitry Silversteyn with Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Good afternoon Teddy, Brian. Just wanted to follow up on a couple of items. First of all on volumes, you talked about 2.3% lower shipments year-over-year but you also I think earlier in the prepared or perhaps in an answer to the first question talked about a 20 million headwind to revenue from lower volumes which actually translate into 3.2% impact. So am I missing something, are you talking about lub specifically as 20 million and there is a little bit of growth in fuels, is that why it's, there's a difference between 2.3 and 3.2?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Yes.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Okay.

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Yes, and also we are talking, you are talking dollars versus quantities.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Okay. So how do I understand that Brian because that means that there is price put there as well?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

No, there is a mix of products that we sell, we sell a lot of products across our business.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

And the mix was negative as well because you sold more fuels than lubs or just within lubs mix was negative?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

The mix in total was a little bit different than it was in the quarterly report that we're comparing to.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

So if I look at the rest of the business and let's say if we use 2.3% as the volume decline, it comes out to be about 7.4% negative I guess for the rest of the businesses, 28 million in foreign exchange gets to about 4.5%. So is the other 3% decline, was that price mix, was that [indiscernible] going to basically?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

That’s correct.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Okay. Very good. And then to follow up on a question about the sequential drop in margins, you talked about that being more a function of foreign exchange than anything else for the business and the pricing has been coming down throughout the year. Can you talk about why declining, why foreign exchange did impact on margins, again sequentially there was not that big of a change, not as big as year-over-year on foreign exchange. Are you sourcing and selling in different currencies, is that what's going on?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Yes, I mean we have a mix from a product perspective and from a geographic mix perspective as we go quarter-to-quarter which drives that change?

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

So that mean you are basically sourcing more in the U.S. versus your revenue distribution, is that the way to think about that?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Yes, that is the way to think about it.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Okay. And then final question, just you talked about I don’t know of about M&A and sort of continuing to maintain a pretty healthy pipeline, any updates there as far as progress, whether you want to talk about sort of general market conditions or seller expectations or buyer expectation, and it just seems that there is a lot more activity recently globally in lub and fuel additives area. Should we be expecting anything in the near future?

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

We are continuing to look for opportunities. We have a strong desire for acquisitions in petroleum additives. So we don’t have anything negative report to you.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Okay. And it is possible given the technologies that you posses in-house and the expertise and additive manufacturer that this could be applicable into markets and industries beyond lub additives?

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Well, certainly beyond the product lines in markets that we're in today and we're constantly looking at opportunities to expand into adjacent spaces. For most of them I would still call lubricant additives or fuel additives. There's some applications beyond that but most of our focus is on the markets we know, that are close by.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Got you Teddy. And just to sort of clarify that point, this year environment versus last year environment, are things getting better, worse from multiple point of view, from sellers being ready to sell, anything going on that you could provide some color on?

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Well it's a small universe that we're in but I would expect it to be reflective of the rest of the M&A market.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

So just about between what buyers are willing to pay and what sellers seem the businesses are worth?

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

So you could say that, yes.

Dmitry Silversteyn

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Okay, thank you Eddy, Teddy sorry.

Teddy Gottwald

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Good.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is a follow up from the line of Ivan Marcuse with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead with your follow up.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Great. A quick question on the gross margin. So as you look forward and things sort of stays, if currency sort of stays where it is now, is there any sort of seasonal impact in the back half that would impact gross margin one way or the other similar to what we saw from first quarter, second quarter or so you sort of think gross margin back in its, sort of been slate to 30% range for the past several years, is that where your target for instance the 32 days following the first quarter?

Brian Paliotti

Analyst

Yes, I think the long-term average what you stated is probably close to where we think it could be.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Great. Alright. Thanks a lot.

Brian Paliotti

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Brian Paliotti for closing remarks.

Brian Paliotti

Analyst

Thanks everyone for calling in. And we will talk to you next quarter.