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Newmont Corporation (NEM)

Q1 2009 Earnings Call· Fri, May 1, 2009

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and thank you for standing by. I'd like remind all participants your line will be on a listen-only mode throughout the presentation. (Operator Instructions). This call is being recorded. If you do have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. And I would now like to introduce your host for today's call, Richard O'Brien, President and CEO. Sir, you may begin.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Thank you very much operator. Good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us on our conference call today to discuss Newmont's Financial Results for the First Quarter of 2009. With me in the room today are several members of our management team. We're also joined by Russell Ball; Guy Lansdown and Brian Hill, who are joining us in... from Nevada, where they are participating in our safety summit. All of those members of management will be available for questions at the end of the presentation. Before we get started, I need to remind you that we will be discussing forward-looking information involving a number of risks, certain of which are unique to our industry as further described in our SEC filings, which can be found on our updated website at www.newmont.com. For those of you with access to our simulcast presentation, I'd like to start with some comments on slide three. As we look at the first quarter highlights, I am pleased to report solid operating and financial results, with our ongoing focus on our operational and project execution. Our first quarter performance provides a good foundation for us to deliver on our operating plans for the full year in 2009. As we discussed at our Investor Day in March, we believe our primary driver of long term value for Newmont is cash flow generation. Our first quarter results demonstrate our focus on driving this value. During the quarter, we generated cash flow from continuing operations of $387 million or $0.82 per share. Our adjusted net income for the quarter was 208 million or $0.44 per share, and we reported net income on a GAAP basis of 189 million or $0.40 per share. This compares with GAAP net income of 365 million or $0.81 per share for the first quarter…

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). Our first question comes from Victor Flores. Sir, you may ask your question.

Victor Flores

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. I have a couple of questions. First, if I could begin with the team. I realize that not a lot of time has passed since the Investor Day, but I was wondering if you could give us a sense of what new information you've assessed in that past month or so that would lead you to be more or less encouraged with respect to the potential of the delivery team?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

I am going to turn that over to Guy Lansdown. Guy, do you want to take that one?

Guy Lansdown

Analyst

Yeah, I can do that. Thanks, Richard and thanks Victor. Victor, we haven't learned much more since we talked at the Analyst Day, but we are working very hard with the team to look at both achievements to be here. We're looking at what realistic capital cost estimates and operating cost estimates are in this current market environment. And we'll continue to do that over the course of the next several months. So, we'll partly answer, but at this point in time, we haven't run much more than what we told you during Analyst Day.

Victor Flores

Analyst

Okay, great, thank you. Second question goes to a comment made in the introductory remarks about the $60 million stamp duty on the purchase of Boddington coming through the income statement in Q2 '09. I think the comment was made that there were other items. So could you tell us what those items are, if they're material?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Yeah, I am going turn that over to Roger Johnson, our Vice President and Controller.

Victor Flores

Analyst

Thanks.

Roger Johnson

Analyst

Thank you, Richard. Victor, the main items that will be coming through other stand, so there will be some other transaction costs associated with Boddington, the normal expectation in our legal fees and advisor fees coming through. And as you probably are aware, these are result of the changes in the business combination accounting rules in the U.S. that previously these costs would have been capitalized, but the new rules require us to charge them to the earnings statement.

Victor Flores

Analyst

Okay. That's fine. And is there an order of magnitude on those transaction costs?

Roger Johnson

Analyst

I think you can use the 60 million to 65 million as a owned encompassing number.

Victor Flores

Analyst

Okay. So that would be more or less the total amount ?

Roger Johnson

Analyst

Yes sir.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Yes.

Victor Flores

Analyst

Okay. Great, thank you very much.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Thanks, Victor.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Our next question comes from David Haughton. Sir you may begin.

David Haughton

Analyst

Good morning and thank you. I've got a few questions. Firstly, at Yanacocha, the great going through the mill was pretty healthy looking. And I am wondering what sort of outlook you have for that, especially when it's combined with the previous statement that you made that you expect Yanacocha to be backend loaded on grade.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Sure, Brian Hill, do you want to answer that one?

Brian Hill

Analyst

Sure, thanks David. In Yanacocha, it's really a function of we're into some higher grades in the pits than we had predicted or expected coming through from the model. So that's performing quite well. The backend loading that we have not really related to grade, it's more related to ounce flow coming out of the pad. We're heavier in the front end of this year in terms of pad loading. So we're actually seeing more ounces come out in the second half of the year than the first half.

David Haughton

Analyst

All right.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

And then David, just to finish up on that, I would say that the gold mill continues to operate at or above capacity and with head grades, which are at or above what we'd planned on. So everything's going pretty well with respect to the gold mill.

David Haughton

Analyst

Thank you. And also through the gold mill, you'd be recovering silver. It's not mentioned in the report. What sort of grade are we looking at for the silver and your recoveries?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Brian, do you have that, I don't.

Brian Hill

Analyst

I don't have that right off the top of my head. I knew that from Analyst Day, we were sort of within that 85 to 90% range, I believe. And we're also in silver recoveries in that range.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

We can get back to you with more info on that David.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

David I'll follow-up with you on that. I mean I guess the important thing is that we're getting much higher recoveries on the silver, the grade is probably the same as it was obviously going on our leach pad. I'll get back to you with a number on that.

David Haughton

Analyst

And I'll take it that silver production's acting as a credit for your cash balances.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Yes, that's correct, that's correct.

David Haughton

Analyst

Okay. Also in your 10-Q, I noticed that you had a small acquisition, nearby property at La Herradura. Can you explain what that entails? And also the amount of holding stack was higher than what we've seen previously? I'm wondering if you can give us an outlook.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

I am going to ask David Faley, our Vice President of Development to take a look at that.

David Faley

Analyst

Sure, thanks. We acquired with our partner Brass Mills (ph), Yanacocha property which is on strike with La Herradura. It's a development opportunity and has exploration potential. And so it's within the joint venture property itself.

David Haughton

Analyst

And the increased stacking right that we saw during the quarter. Can we expect that going forward?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

I don't think we have, we don't have any answer to that. When David, we'll comeback to you at that one.

David Haughton

Analyst

All right. Well, thank you very much guys.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Our next question comes from Barry Cooper. You may ask your question.

Barry Cooper

Analyst

Yeah, good morning everyone. Just wondering if you can walk me through what you anticipate to be kind of first the steps for Batu Hijau. I know that there have been some prior agreements on valuation. And I'm just wondering how those valuations hold in the current market. Obviously, copper changed, and gold prices changed. Are you stuck with those prior valuations? Or you're going to get the benefit of those prior valuations? Or just how is this thing going to hold and fall over the next 180 days?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Let me give a little a little bit on the unfolding. And then I'll Russell to jump in on the valuation. But basically as a result of the arbitration order in addition to confirming that the contract of work is still in force, the arbitration panel did say that the Newmont, think of it this way, pretty much needs to sell to whomever the government tells us to sell to. And before we had tried to move into the business, the business phase, instead of the business, the government phase, because we've had certain periods that are expired under the contract. The panel said none of that applies. You will just sell to whoever the government wants you to sell to. And you will do it with shares that don't have any leans or pledges against them. So as I mentioned, we are in the process of removing the pledges. We will then re-offer the shares to the government. The anticipation is that the ruling from the panel we believe, suggests that the 2006 and 2007 prices are still what they were when we offer them and because we did not complete 2008 offer in the way that the panel and the government had anticipated. And we've not completed 2009 pricing. Those are probably still out for discussion. As a consequence to that, I would say that we're still in the process of confirming with the government, the right way forward in terms of valuation, but Russ, do you want to add some of that?

Russell Ball

Analyst

Yeah, thanks Richard. Barry, yeah, you have to break it into '06 and '07 which we believe the price has been agreed. The tribunal panel never ruled on that specific issue, and we're working through discussions of the Indonesian government to clarify that. But we believe the '06 and '07 price was set. As Richard said '08 to '09, given that we filed for arbitration in March last year we never actually agreed those prices with the government. So, we have a team that has begun discussions around valuation. And just to go back and refresh, remember the '06 valuation was 3.6 billion, went up to 4. It went up to 6.1 and then our most recent is around 4.9 billion. So, to your point earlier, yes we have reflected lower commodity prices, certainly in the short-term in those valuations. And that's why you see the decrease from 6.1 to 4.9. And we also have a lower valuation in that. It will be a long project which is deposit of 60 kilometers to the east. So those will be items that get discussed. And we have started that process. We have a team, the government appointed a team. And we're going to through '08 and '09, with them, hopefully the next month or so.

Barry Cooper

Analyst

Hypothetically, if somebody came up with the cash, as an example, for purchasing these. And it's hard for me to describe them, how that would happen. But would you have to go back and then repay them an awful lot of the profits that you would have generated over the past couple of years? And indeed if you would have been hedged in some of those years for the copper, would you conceivably have to wind up paying for unhedged copper production that would have occurred during those prior years?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

No. Larry?

Unidentified Company Speaker

Analyst

Barry, yeah, Richard is correct, no. We believe and this issue was addressed in some point in a claim for damages that was a part of the contract of work. And the panel ruled clearly that in addition to the contract of work not being canceled that damages were not entitled, so we believe that any transfer would then apply on a prospective basis to future earnings.

Barry Cooper

Analyst

Right. Okay. And then another and separate question, you've had Hope Bay now for a year and half or so and you spent a fair bit for it. And I think probably more than 100 million since you got it, we've had virtually no news. When do you think we are going to get some sort of information flow from that asset?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Yeah, actually we did have a brief update at the Analyst Day, where we talked about what the progress going forward was for this year, but Guy, do you want to recapture that because there we don't have a lot to add in addition to that, but Guy, do you want to bring that up?

Guy Lansdown

Analyst

Yes, I can do that sure Richard. Barry, as you've correctly said, we've invested a fair amount of money setting up sort of the infrastructure wise, so that we got a good platform from which we can work safely to continue exploration and development activities in the area. That was bulk of that effort last year. This year, we have a multi-pronged approach, where we are aggressively going after our exploration activities both on the generative side, where we're looking at the targets across the whole region, the whole 80 kilometers strike length, or belt length. And we'll continue to define the answers or the potential around the existing resources. In addition to that what we got going on is our team that we also built last year is busy looking at many options to develop the projects, looking for the optimal way to develop it. And so, through the course of the year, we'll a lot more, and we would continue to update or provide update as meaningful information becomes available.

Barry Cooper

Analyst

And any kind of changes to the prior resource numbers or anything in terms of what you found so far? Are you substantiating the numbers or better or worse or any comment that you can make on that?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Well, I'd say we're busy going through the process of confirming them. Going through the process of looking at the data, we will know more once we've drilled more, and too early to really say meaningfully whether we've got anything to report on this stage.

Barry Cooper

Analyst

Okay. I guess we'll look patiently for a while longer then.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Yes. Thanks Barry.

Unidentified Company Speaker

Analyst

Thanks Barry.

Operator

Operator

Okay. (Operator Instructions). And our next question comes from Kaushik Mitra. Sir, you may ask your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I had two questions; first, is there any provisional pricing adjustment term in your copper sales and how that might change in 2Q if copper stays above $2? And the second, you've mentioned briefly about the power situation in Ghana has improved. Could you talk about that little bit more? Thank you.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

I'll take the power one and then I will ask Roger Johnson to talk about the provisional pricing one. So on power, the improvement that we are talking about is, there is more hydro than perhaps we had expected in our -- when we set our guidance for the year. And hydro power versus diesel power for us results in lower costs applicable to sales, so that's really the reference. In terms of the going forward, the government -- new government in Ghana is reviewing energy infrastructure, but what I'd say is these are really temporary reductions in power costs because of increased hydro availability, it doesn't reflect for instance the new building of a substantial power station in Ghana. So that's probably still to come. Roger, you want to talk about provisional pricing?

Roger Johnson

Analyst

Yeah, thanks Richard. At the end of the quarter, we had approximately ₤86 million of copper provisionally priced at $1.83. So, we will have a significant amount that will be priced in the second quarter. Just to call your attention to the fact that we hit a similar favorable variance coming in the first quarter, there was about a $29 million favorable impact from the provisional pricing that was at the end of the year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from John Bridges. You may ask your question sir.

John Bridges

Analyst

Good morning, Brian and everybody. Just wondering if you could square circle. Reading one of Ventura's report last night, they were making the points that, the production at Yanacocha was similar to Q1 '08. But the difference was the build up of inventory and just the sales reduction. That's a bit different to what you're saying. Could you explain where we're going wrong here?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Yeah, let me just try square that circle. As you say, we're actually comparing to expectations, not to the prior year quarter. I think their description of the prior year quarter is actually correct. We're just comparing it to where we thought we were going to be for the quarter.

John Bridges

Analyst

Okay. So, is there any build up in inventory? Or was there a build up in the leach pads?

Roger Johnson

Analyst

This is Roger Johnson. There is a slight build in the inventory at Yanacocha. So one of Ventura's representation, we agree with.

John Bridges

Analyst

Okay and then maybe one for Brian. You, at the investor presentation, were talking about how you're able at the comfort of surveying the scene and figuring out whether you're going to go ahead with your projects, your resource projects or maybe be in the position to buy something. I just wondered from a couple of months on, any changes, any enhancements?

Brian Hill

Analyst

I think John, there are some processes we're still working our way through in terms of having a look at, at how we rate and rank both our smaller internal projects and some of the ones which Guy has spoken about. And that sort of coupled with, with some of the works that Randy's doing in terms of looking at other strategic opportunities. So that's still a work in progress, as far as we're concerned.

John Bridges

Analyst

Okay. That's understandable. Any -- have you given yourself any deadline as to when to come to conclusions on that?

Brian Hill

Analyst

No, not really. That's just going to be an ongoing process that we're just discontinuing to look at them, and advance them as best we can.

John Bridges

Analyst

Okay. Great. Congratulations on the quarter guys. Good luck.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Thanks John.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). And our next question comes from Patrick Chidley. Sir you may ask your question.

Patrick Chidley

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning everybody. I wanted to ask about particularly sort of the long-term outlook you have for Yanacocha, being as the reserve life, I don't think to be that long anymore. And whether or not -- what sort of timing we might expect on Minas Conga in terms of the development decision in the light of some of these -- indicating some of the Chinese companies in the district or --

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Couple of things, Patrick. First, the Conga decision is one that as Guy referenced on a team. We're seeing some reduction in capital cost estimates. We're still pushing that project through our pipeline and we'll continue to evaluate that one. There are some other things going on in that district. And so it's something that we're looking at as well. In addition to that, at Yanacocha, we mentioned this again at Investor Day, but we do have several projects going to continue to push the life of Yanacocha out. In particular, we're drilling the Sulfides underneath the pits, examining additional ways to process those Sulfides economically. And if that can be done, there will be a much longer life at Yanacocha. We also have the potential over time to take back from our NRM and put into reserves the Cu Leach deposit, which is going to take quite a bit of work and some social discussions that we need to have to bring that back into reserves. All in all, we continue to look at Yanacocha, which is clearly in the back half of the slides. And if we're able to put the Sulfides and Cu Leach in, we clearly have the ways to run. If we're not, I'd suggest by the mid-teens we're going to see a pretty good decline at Yanacocha.

Patrick Chidley

Analyst

Does Sulfides -- they are not in your reserve at the moment and they are not in your -- are they in your mineralized material or not?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

They are not in any, I think at this point as we continue to find ways to economically process those, and as I said, really defining the reserve base there.

Patrick Chidley

Analyst

Is there a geological resource on those Sulfides that through the years of drilling -- I know you've been drilling that for a long time in those Sulfides. Any sort of estimates?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

I'm sorry I missed the last word, any?

Patrick Chidley

Analyst

Any estimate?

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

No, that's precisely what we're doing at this point. We have not put a resource up, we're continuing to explore and investigate.

Patrick Chidley

Analyst

Yeah.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Very early stages.

Patrick Chidley

Analyst

Okay. Good work. Thanks very much then.

Richard O'Brien

President and CEO

Thank you. So, thank you all for attending today. We appreciate your questions and your attention and we look forward to talking to you again in July. Thanks.