Ed Campbell
Analyst · Sage Asset. You have the floor, sir.
First of all, I’d say that of these big systems, capacity is probably one of the last reasons that people by systems from Nordson, more typically, they tend to buy them for capability reasons. For example, I’ll start with technology, but I can move to the industrial coating segment as well. They tend to be bought because there is something about their product, whether it is a new cell phone or it is a new pacemaker, or it is a new powder painting booth, there is a capability that they don’t have, and in order to have features, or in order to be able to make it smaller or faster, or there’s an economic payback, that is far and away the largest reason to people make the investments they buy these systems. And so, we have for example today, large powder painting systems that we’re continuing to sell. Some of these – I’ll give you a couple of examples, that are other than capacity. One has to do with a customer who is interested in reducing overall production cost in their relocating factories from high-cost regions of the world to a low-cost region of the world. And as a result of that, we’re replicating their entire painting capacity. In another example, there is merchandising and marketing reasons that multiple colors are necessary, as compared to a product strategy in the past. It might have a more limited color spectrum and they need the latest technology that enables them to rapidly change colors from one to another in small batches. And so again, they’re replicating or adding capability, and thus, we sell the system. And these are though, nevertheless, influenced by whether it’s pure cash conservatism on the part of customers, or, in some cases, they’ll make due because they don’t have the need. But, nevertheless, there is a component of our demand that has to do with capacity and I would say that it’s probably tied to the specific economics of the cycle where they operate. Portions of our business are consumer durable goods and if it is a capacity to use that reason that some people buy, then it would lag the recovery. In our adhesives and more standard product businesses, because the dollar cost is relatively low, it would probably be current with the cycle. And then, I’ll tell you the technology products really are in a much higher case, they are tied to the next generation product that they’re releasing. To get consumers to be interested and continue to buy cell phones, or what every other product may be, they’re embedding new features, and those new features, frankly, require them to have new capability that we can offer. And it’s not often that it’s capacity driven.