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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to The NASDAQ OMX Second Quarter 2014 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now turn the call over to your host Ed Ditmire, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Ed Ditmire

Management

Thanks Stephanie. Good morning everyone and thanks for joining us today to discuss The NASDAQ OMX’s second quarter 2014 earnings result. On the line are Bob Greifeld, our CEO; Lee Shavel, CFO; co-Presidents, Adena Friedman and Hans-Ole Jochumsen, Ed Knight, General Counsel and other members of the management team. After prepared remarks, we'll open up to Q&A. The press release and presentation are on our website. We intend to use the website as a means of disclosing material, non-public information and complying with disclosure obligations under SEC Regulation FD. I'd like to remind you that certain statements in the presentation and during Q&A may relate to future events and expectations, and as such constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from these projections. Information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from forward-looking statements is contained in our press release and periodic reports filed with the SEC. I now will turn the call over to Bob.

Robert Greifeld

Management

Thank you, Ed, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our second quarter 2014 results. I am pleased to report another strong quarter driven by solid organic growth across all of our business segments. To be more specific during the quarter, we experienced a 4% organic revenue growth rate, a 9% organic growth rate in our three non-transactional segments combined. Truly a strong performance. Some of the highlights driving our performance during the quarter which I’ll comment on more a continued exceptionally strong IPO environment. In fact, we are on pace to eclipse our strong 2013 IPO totaled by Labor Day of this year. Strong growth in our information services and market technology business segments and materially year-over-year market share gains in our U.S. and European cash equity operations. Revenues during the quarter reached near record highs at $523 million and non-GAAP diluted EPS was $0.70, up 13% year-on-year. Those who follow us and listen to these calls, know that we live by the belief that good execution is what drives our success. So when you see, we match the previous quarters operating profit record and had our second best quarter ever in terms of non-GAAP EPS, net income, and net revenue it’s clear that we were executing well quarter-after-quarter. Because of our strongest execution, we have position ourselves to complete our de-leveraging ahead of schedule and restarted our stock repurchase plan. We returned $93 million of capital to shareholders this quarter in buy backs. In addition to our $25 million in quarterly dividend payments. While we are executing well, it’s important to note that in no way are we satisfied and what’s truly exciting for us and the rest of the management team is, there is substantial room for improvement in the execution…

Lee Shavel

Management

Thanks, Bob. Good morning, everyone. The following comments will focus on our non-GAAP results. Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP results can be found in the attachments to our press release and in presentation that’s available on our website at ir.nasdaqomx.com. I will start by reviewing our second quarter revenue performance relative to the prior year quarter as shown on Page 3 of the presentation. Net revenues increased 16% to $523 million. Contributing to this increase was a 19% increase in subscription and recurring revenue, primarily from acquisitions, but also from material organic growth. Subscription and recurring revenue represented 74% of total revenues. Transaction-driven revenues rose $8% due mainly to the inclusion of eSpeed, which closed at end of the second quarter 2013 period. On an organic basis, and assuming constant currency, and excluding acquisitions, total company net revenues rose 4%. And if we move to Page 4 in the presentation, we show how that organic growth breaks down between the Non-Transaction, Information Services, Technology Solutions and Listing Services segments and the volume sensitive, market services segment. Non-transactional segments showed continued strength with 9% organic growth this quarter and also continuing a positive trend, each of the three segments had positive organic growth. Market services had a 2% organic decline for the quarter, reflecting the impact of more severe industry volume declines in the period. For example, U.S. Options and U.S. Equity volumes fell 10%, versus the prior year period on an industry wide basis. On the bottom of this page, we reiterate our views on the medium term organic growth outlook for the Non-Transactional segments. We realized that the last few quarters had been running a bit above these projections, but these views were meant to reflect multi-year cross cycle periods, and natural growth in shorter periods can be above…

Ed Ditmire

Management

Thank you. Stephanie, could you please open the call to Q&A now.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Rich Repetto with Sandler O'Neill. Your line is open. Richard Repetto – Sandler O'Neill & Partners: Good morning, Bob. Good morning, Lee. Congrats on a very strong quarter given the volume environment. And I guess the first question is, Lee, on the buyback. We’re surprised it was that aggressive, seeing that you started mid-quarter. Just a little bit more detail or color on how you’re going to evaluate the amount. Before, you used to guide to $50 million to $75 million per quarter. Is that still a good range, now that you’ve hit a gross debt to EBITDA ratio? Or, how are you looking at the quantity of buybacks going forward?

Lee Shavel

Management

Yes, thanks, Rich. We’re not going to provide specific guidance on the buyback. What we said, I would reiterate our focus on the capital that we’re generating each quarter as I indicated after dividends of $95 million to $100 million at our current year-to-date run rate. And as we have in the past every quarter, we’re going to look at the capital we’re generating, we’re going to look at the opportunities to deploy that capital through buybacks, internal or external investments and determine where we think the best returns are. We certainly think at the current share price that there are very attractive returns for us in buying back shares. And so, that’s really the extend of what we can say at this point other than to reiterate our focus on putting that capital where we see the best returns. Richard Repetto – Sandler O'Neill & Partners: Okay. That helps. Thanks. And then, I do want to welcome back Adena and congratulate both Adena and Hans-Ole on their promotions. My one follow-up would be on the merger expenses, Lee. If you look at the first half, we’ll get about $42 million. It’s pretty a lot higher than the first half of last year. And can you give a little bit more detail of what you are excluding from the operating EPS with these merger expenses?

Lee Shavel

Management

Yes, certainly, Rich. So what you see is about $14 million of overall merger and strategic initiative expenses. And to give you some color of the composition around that that about $5 million of that $14 million is due real estate consolidation. Thomson Reuters had real estate in London. We did as well. We’ve consolidated that into a new facility. So there’s about $5 million of reserves that we are taking on that front. From a severance standpoint, we have severance expenses associated with Thomson Reuters and eSpeed. That’s approximately $3 million associated with that business. We have legal and consulting fees. As we’ve talked about the integration of these businesses, given the geographic scope, are fairly complex. So we have legal expenses of about $3 million as well. We also have some transition services arrangements with Thomson Reuters that will phase out over time. Those are not – they are duplicative expenses currently that fall within that merger category. That’s about $1 million as well. And then, we also had expenses related to the integration of the NOS clearinghouse with our Nordic clearinghouse in Stockholm. So, those are the elements and the rough amounts included in that $14 million. Richard Repetto – Sandler O'Neill & Partners: Okay. Thanks for the color. And, again, congrats on the strong quarter.

Robert Greifeld

Management

Thank you.

Lee Shavel

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jillian Miller with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Robert Greifeld

Management

How are you doing, Jillian? Jillian Miller – BMO Capital Markets: Good. With respect to the treasury business, Dealerweb launched its electronic on-the-run platform in June and they’ve said they are trading about $30 billion a day, which looks to be almost half of what you guys did in the second quarter. So, just wanted to get a sense from you, what you are hearing from clients about the platform. And any additional color on the new competitive dynamics you are seeing in the space would be helpful.

Robert Greifeld

Management

Yes. That’s a number I haven’t heard, but I would say this. One, we track our market share and it’s obviously not like the equity market where you have a consolidated tape and you have a known number, but still it’s important to track it over time and obviously it’s the same denominator you use. So in the quarter we saw a minor increase in market share for our U.S. treasury operations. So, not nearly what we wanted, but it was an uptick. So we feel we’re on a positive trend line here. Jillian Miller – BMO Capital Markets: Okay. Great. And then on the Tech segment, you’ve got the margin target of 20% by the end of 2015 and there is still quite a ways to go at 8% now. So I was just hoping you could give us an idea for like when we’ll see the bulk of the Thomson Reuters synergies flowing through, and I guess, related to that, when we’ll see most of the improvement in the segment margins – maybe 2015?

Robert Greifeld

Management

Definitely. And tying back to my prepared comments, it was a very strong quarter and somewhat exceptional in the light of the transaction business challengers we had. But what’s really exciting is that we’re really not hitting on all cylinders at this point in time and each and every one of our businesses has room to improve upon its execution. Clearly in the Corporate Solutions business we are making progress, but we have a long way to go. So we’re on a proper live path. We feel good about where we’re going and we’re primarily excited about the great opportunity. So I think you should not say 2015, but we expect quarter-after-quarter to make improvements and the team is in place and doing a very good job about that. Jillian Miller – BMO Capital Markets: Got it. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Carrier with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open. Michael Carrier – Bank of America Merrill Lynch: Thanks, guys. Bob, just two questions, just on the U.S. cash business, given some of the regulatory debate and the market structure and then also just the pricing. What drove price in the quarter? And, then, when you think about the different paths that we can move forward in, on the market structure side, just how does NASDAQ fit in? Because it definitely seems like there’s some opportunities depending on how things ultimately play out. But kind of getting there, there can be a lot of uncertainty. And so, just wanted to get your take on where you think things stand at this point.

Robert Greifeld

Management

I would say, first, if you look at the broad scope of history, you see markets tend become more transparent over time. So we just know that that will happen again in the equity world. That’s going to happen obviously in over-the-counter world. And with respect to uncertainty, clearly I think last three to four months you’ve seen increased focus on the need for transparency in the equity markets. We feel very positive about the way the discussions are going and what are likely to happen from a regulatory outcome point of view. I would say this though that the regulatory changes, while probably in process take a while, and I think there are many opportunities for us to continue to move forward with how we run our business today where we can see gains in share and/or capture. And to the extent we can bring real value to this business, which I think we can, I think you’ll see both share and cash continue to have positive momentum. So, one, we think the regulation is moving in a positive direction. We’re not going to wait for that. We have plans in place. I think you’ll see some positive impact on our businesses in the near-term. Michael Carrier – Bank of America Merrill Lynch: Okay. Thanks. And then, Lee, just as a follow-up, I guess just two number things. I think you’ve mentioned in market data that there was an audit. I just wanted to make sure I got it right. I think you said that the first half was running at about $15 million and I think full-year last year was around $20 million. So, there are going to be some additional, but we would expect that to just moderate a bit. And then just on the charges, you guys have done a lot of deals and so you have these charges. You paid down debt, so that added to charges. When we think about moving forward, is there a steady state without the acquisitions that we should start to see the adjustments start to normalize to a lower level?

Robert Greifeld

Management

So on your first question, I think you’ve got that precisely correct in terms of the expectations that the audit fees will moderate for the balance of the year. In terms of the charges, and I would just emphasize that particularly with the Thomson Reuters deal, this is a large, complex, global integration. And so, as we work to integrate and migrate onto new product platforms, new building systems and we integrate the employees there is an ongoing level of associated one-time charges. Now, our expectation is that really that will begin to phase out over the balance of 2014. And then once we’re through that the bulk of those expenses will be done and will be into a steady state at that point. So, that would be the direction I’d give you in terms of what we view as reaching a normalized level of operating expense and you won’t see as much of a gap at that point between our GAAP and our non-GAAP numbers. Michael Carrier – Bank of America Merrill Lynch: Okay. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Allen with Evercore. Your line is open. Chris Allen – Evercore Partners: Morning, guys.

Robert Greifeld

Management

How are you doing, Chris? Chris Allen – Evercore Partners: I was wondering if you could just give us an update in terms of how much of an EPS drag was NLX this past quarter. I know you guys have put in recent pricing changes around the rebates that were paid out and the time frames during which they could be incurred. So, wondering what impact they’ve had on the rebate levels. And obviously they’ve been playing well from a market share perspective.

Robert Greifeld

Management

I’ll start with the second part of your question, let Lee answer the first part. So, we started with a general rebate, which was applicable through the entire day. And, then, as we evolved we broke it to a morning session and an afternoon session. And just in the last week we evolved to the point where the rebate is tied to basically an hourly contribution to our liquidity and it has had the desired effect. If you look at the graph, now we have a more steady state of liquidity in the market and it does mirror the incumbent market share with respect to how liquidity is distributed. So, we feel very good about that change.

Lee Shavel

Management

And on the first question, the NLX initiative continues to have approximately a $0.04 to $0.05 impact per quarter for the business. Chris Allen – Evercore Partners: Okay. And then, I was just wondering if we could hear from Adena exactly what drew her back to NASDAQ from Carlyle?

Robert Greifeld

Management

Sure.

Adena T. Friedman

Analyst

Good morning. As you know, I’ve spend a long time at NASDAQ. I was here for 17 years before I went to Carlyle, and I think Carlyle is a spectacular firm and I had a wonderful experience there. But as I look at opportunity set here at NASDAQ and the businesses that I’m having the opportunity to come back and manage, I’m thrilled with the opportunity set that we have with the Technology Solutions business, within the Listings business and the Information business. So, I’m excited to have P&L. I’m excited to be able to manage a large aspect of the NASDAQ market and so I’m excited to be back. Chris Allen – Evercore Partners: Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Kenneth Hill with Barclays. Your line is open. Kenneth Hill – Barclays Capital: Good morning, everyone.

Robert Greifeld

Management

How are you doing?

Lee Shavel

Management

Good morning, Ken. Kenneth Hill – Barclays Capital: Good. How are you?

Robert Greifeld

Management

Good. Kenneth Hill – Barclays Capital: Okay. I wanted to start off just on a follow-up to the regulatory question earlier. I think in the past you guys had talked about pushing some of your mid-point liquidity offering a little bit more aggressively as the regulators focus on some of the off-exchange market share. So is this going to be a continued focus for you guys? And what can we expect for that in the coming quarters here?

Robert Greifeld

Management

Yes. I kind of hint to that at the last question .So, the point I will make is that you have on the Reg ATS today DART trading and DART governance and the two do not have to be joined at the hip. So, certainly we think there is opportunities for us to bring two customers some of the darkness in the marketplace where it’s appropriate, but more importantly, allow for lid governance. So you’ll see us positioning our products along those lines. Kenneth Hill – Barclays Capital: Okay. And follow-up here on Alex to so you mentioned the first 12 months you’ve got some great market share there over 15% in the LIBOR, I was hopping if you give some color on some of how the customer base is shifted overtime. And how you can kind of grow that customer base I guess further out on the curve where they could really benefit from some of the cost margin potential.

Robert Greifeld

Management

Yes, the first thing is we do have to continue to diversify our customer base, we obviously have a core group of customers who support us. And I think in the second quarter we made substantial progress and basically advancing the dialog with expanded base of customers. Clearly the buy side is where we have to resonate with our message. And what the market share does for us, it’s really in many ways your advertising budget, because there’s not a person in the community who is not aware of what NLX is doing, and that can generate positive reinforcement cycle where more people get interested, more people get interested and the market share goes higher. So we’re in that process right now. So we’re making progress, we have a long way to go, but we’re happy with how it’s progressing. And with respect to your second part of your question, clearly the open interest has to build for us to provide real cross margining benefits to our customers, so I think that’s a second order impact of having success in the core product. Kenneth Hill – Barclays Capital: Okay, thanks for taking my question.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Niamh Alexander with KBW. Your line is open. Niamh Alexander – Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. And I could go back to I guess the securities or the accurate market structure, and I felt that it was the Chicago side governor had to put out some recommendations about market structure changes. One of them specifically was about providing different trade information within some of the co-location services and it was primarily recommendations, but that’s just, is that something that you think exchanges including yourselves are providing today, is that something that you get paid for, that we need to kind of think about in terms of forward revenues?

Robert Greifeld

Management

I’m not quite sure I understand the question, but I would say that clearly we’re regulated by the SEC we focused with respect to where they want to go with the regulation. But if you could repeat that back a little bit? Niamh Alexander – Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.: Yes, sure I mean, it was quite a detail it was interesting because it wasn’t from your primary regulator, it was side governor I believe who put out the report. And one of the suggestions was that exchanges may be stop providing trade information or trade confirmation that different speeds or different levels within their data centers. And I was – I didn’t know if that something that NASDAQ provide and if it is, is it something that we should think about may be in terms of potential risks of the revenue going forward?

Robert Greifeld

Management

Okay. I’m going to have to plead a little bit ignorant on this and let us take that offline, and we’ll get back to you than publicize it. Niamh Alexander – Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.: Okay, sure. Fair enough. Thanks. And then the market structure in equities, I guess you already kind of said, look you’re pleased so far in what you’re hearing in terms of the potential for market structural changes. I assume you’re part of the – you’re soon to be proposed why your tech side’s pilot is that potentially a good thing for exchanges? It should be a good thing for issuers if you get more liquidity in the stocks. Is that a good thing you think for exchanges as well potentially?

Robert Greifeld

Management

I think so. And certainly we’re pleased to see that we’re going forward with pilots, I think the information there will be I think quite useful and hopefully drive market structure forward on a data driven basis. I certainly believe that transparency wins and you see I think based upon what’s happening in the industry today and really around the world that people generally come to that conclusion, and that we will be good for our business model, and as I said before, I think in the interim there are great opportunities for us and we intend to pursue them aggressively. Niamh Alexander – Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.: Okay, I’ll get back in line. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ashley Serrao with Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Ashley N. Serrao – Credit Suisse: Good morning, guys.

Robert Greifeld

Management

How are you doing Ashley?

Lee Shavel

Management

Hi, Ashley. Ashley N. Serrao – Credit Suisse: Doing well. I just want to start off on the NASDAQ private market. It’s definitely an exciting initiative for you. I was hoping you could quantify how much you invest in today and then as we think about you coming up the possibility curve and that longer term, is it fair to expect similar margins to your core listing business.

Robert Greifeld

Management

Well, obviously there’s one we think the revenue opportunity in NPM for a given market cap size companies is larger than it is in the public market based upon the suite of product and services we’re bringing to market. So if I have a company that has a theoretical $50 million market cap, it might represent a 1x opportunity as a public company, we think as a private company could represent a 2x opportunity for us. We also recognize that the market size is dramatically larger than the market size of companies who want to become public. I think in our Investor Day, we showed in the order of magnitude approaching 10 to one. Whether it’s 10 to one or five to one, it’s just a large opportunity for us. The progress we made in the last six months with the Bruce and Nelson leading the effort has been, I think outstanding and as I said in my prepared remarks, you’ll be hearing more about some of those successes in the not-too-distant future. Ashley N. Serrao – Credit Suisse: Okay. Switching gears to your other growth initiatives on the index business it has been a good business for you for the past few years. But if I just look at asset growth what the – call it like past few quarter, two, three. It seems like it’s slowing down a little, so I just want to get your updated thoughts on the way you are looking at your opportunity set there and what should we expect.

Robert Greifeld

Management

Well, I think, one, it’s been an incredibly strong performance from the Index business over the last number of years, and it’s definitely a opportunity set that knows no bounds, and I think it ties back to one of the reasons of being sitting here, because we do have a great opportunity in that business and in others. So we certainly think that a passive investing is a trend line, it’s a growth driver over a long period of time and we’re properly positioned, as we said before we’ve invested in the technology, we have the ability to go toe to toe with any competitor on a global basis, so we are excited about that. So our long term forecast of this business is continued strong growth and being increasingly important to us as the years go by. Ashley N. Serrao – Credit Suisse: All right, thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Akhil Bhatia with Rosenblatt Securities, your line is open. Akhil Bhatia – Rosenblatt Securities: Hi, good morning.

Robert Greifeld

Management

Hi, Akhil. Akhil Bhatia – Rosenblatt Securities: Just a question to follow-up on eSpeed. You’ve talked about having completed the data center migration, when can we expect to see some meaningful growth that eSpeed given in the new product launches and what’s the targets there.

Robert Greifeld

Management

That’s a great question. So, as I said we are edging up in market share, we think it’s correlated with the data center move and the improvements in the technology. We have launched the bills product less than two weeks ago, I mean last week really. And to go over 1 billion approaching 2 billion (indiscernible) first couple of days is very strong, so we have a series of product planned after – after bills, another products what I call instantaneous home runs, but will build up on the franchise, we also operate with the belief that as we deliver more value-added solutions to our customers such as the bills product that has the ability to have a somewhat halo effect on us in the core benchmark treasury operations. I think as new products are successful, that successful we’re down back to our core benchmark treasury operations, and so we are happy, and it’s also changing the dynamics of our customer relationship. Because we are in fact delivering to them in their challenging times products they can dramatically reduce their cost associated with their voice brokerage operation, and they are appreciative of that, so it’s working. Akhil Bhatia – Rosenblatt Securities: With the new products are you changing the fees schedules to be paid by based on activity or just on contract base.

Robert Greifeld

Management

So the bills price so, one we only have one product out, it’s been out for a week So, it’s certainly early days but it’s a separate fees schedule for the bills product independent to the benchmarks. Akhil Bhatia – Rosenblatt Securities: Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Patrick O'Shaughnessy with Raymond James, your line is open. Patrick O'Shaughnessy – Raymond James: To follow up on the eSpeed line of questioning to what extent do you think tapering has been or will be a catalyst for overall treasure trading volumes. Or do we really need to see a pickup in rate volatility for those volumes to start to take off?

Lee Shavel

Management

I think rate volatility is clearly the largest driver instantaneous driver of volume in the market place. But tapering will be a helpful contributor to increased volume in the marketplace. So we expect after October that’s a more positive environment for us and then the fuels of the fire will be rate volatility. Patrick O'Shaughnessy – Raymond James: I got you. And then for my follow up on NLX how patient do you guys want to be here? It’s obviously still a pretty significant dilution – source of dilution for you guys $0.04 to $0.05 per quarter. If we look at the open interest, it looks like you, your short-term rate open interest is more less than flat, since the start of the year. You haven’t really built a long-term interest rate, open interest. And a lot of the value proposition is feeling cross margin the short versus the long end of the curve. So, what specific, achievements do you want to target may be and when do you want target and by to say, you know what either this is working or it’s not working?

Robert Greifeld

Management

Right. That is a very good question. So, one is, I think we have recently seen some uptick in the open interest. But to me it’s fairly straight forward to the extent that we have new participants and new meaningful participants who want to come onto the platform and are sincerely expressing that desire to us. And the amount of these participants would get us to a step function change to where we are today. Then it’s our job to provide that platform to them. To the extent that, the participants, the customers – potential customers are saying they are not interested and where we are today is not sustainable then that’s clear-cut. So the good news side is that we are still engaged with, engage customers or prospects who want to talk to us, who want to get involved with the platform in many respects cheer us on. They want to see a competitive dynamic in the marketplace. And as I said previously our market share is starting to resonate with the buy side community and at the end of the day that is really the source of sustainability the efforts. So as the balloon is filling with air our job is to help that happen to the extent that is not the case. Then we know what we have to do. Patrick O'Shaughnessy – Raymond James: All right, thank you.

Ed Ditmire

Management

Thanks Patrick.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ken Worthington with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Kenneth Worthington – JPMorgan: Hi, good morning. Just first on volumes you mentioned only in low cost products and geographies. Just share your views on how much the weakness is cyclical versus secular. You’ve one to two factors that you think are weighing most heavily on volume and volatility. And how do see the factors impacting U.S. versus European activity.

Robert Greifeld

Management

All right, so that’s the question we resolute all the time and never come up with an answer. And that is what should volumes be and what really be. So, we have educated guesses that we use internally as we through our budgeting process. Kind of measure that clearly drives volume is volatility. But once you get the volatility you say okay what is making volatility change in the marketplace. So our volumes are strongly correlated to volatility. And if you are looking for one measure but that only gets you the first step. Having them predict what volatility will look like. Then you get into questions of what drives volatility and certainly we see consumer confidence is a number that tends to correlate. Further you always volume over time. But so we don’t really know, we have guesses, we think with respect to the volumes we see in the marketplace today, I wouldn’t call a perfect storm, but you have a lot of bad drivers in the marketplace today, so if we change any of those it will have a positive impact on volumes and so we certainly operate thinking what the low end of the cycle. Kenneth Worthington – JPMorgan: Okay, great. Thank you. Obviously, I'm circling, too, which is why we ask. Then, NLX, open interest for Sterling and Euribor are similar at NASDAQ, but you are trading 60,000 or so contracts a day in Euribor but 2,000 a day in Sterling. Why the big success in Euribor and maybe it’s a lack of volumes in Sterling?

Robert Greifeld

Management

Well, I think, actually, the sterling volumes have been relatively robust as compared to Euribor, but I would say that the incentive schemes originally probably drove people to Euribor as opposed to sterling at that time. So, I think it’s customer will and also how the platform was positioned. Kenneth Worthington – JPMorgan: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Rob Rutschow with CLSA. Your line is open. Robert Rutschow – CLSA: Hey, good morning. A couple questions on the corporate services business. One, can you give us any color on the quarter-to-quarter dynamics since you had a little bit of a decline in revenue there? And then, longer term, what does the competitive dynamic look like? How long is the sales cycle? And do we need to see you roll out the new billing platform completely before we would see a pickup in cross sales?

Robert Greifeld

Management

Lot of information to cover there. So one is we clearly will become more efficient and effective when the new billing platform is out there and it’s rolled out in Europe. It’s going to Asia in very short order and then coming to the States in the couple of months. So far so good with that. The organization is anxious to have that. And we’ve completed some of the transition services agreement with Thomson, which puts more things under our control. From a competitive point of view, the way I look at the world is that we are unparalleled in the breadth of products we bring to market. So there’s nobody who can compete with us chapter and verse. Our job is to make sure that each of our products, one, are integrated together and add synergistic value to each other. And that’s what our new platform efforts will bring to us. We do that. Then we’ll standalone. I also believe that we will always have point solution competitors. Some will be coming out of the garage, small focused software companies that come up with a great point solution. Our job is to make sure we’re as nimble as they are and are responsive to them. They will never represent a broad threat, but they are there and whatever revenue they want, we want to make sure we get it ourselves. So I think that’s the world we kind live in for the number of years. If we execute successfully, we get to define our own future and we’re focused on doing that. Robert Rutschow – CLSA: Okay. And just a quick follow-up. For the same business, what are the pricing trends with your clients at this point?

Robert Greifeld

Management

I think it’s relatively stable. We have some pricing power in some other products. We use some of that in the second quarter. But we make sure that we’re delivering value to our customers is kind our hallmark here. So to the extent that we have pricing power, it should be because we’re delivering superior value to our customers there, but I think the pricing trends are relatively stable. Robert Rutschow – CLSA: Okay. Thanks for taking my question.

Operator

Operator

Our final question comes from Gaston Ceron with Morningstar Equity Research. Your line is open. Gaston Ceron – Morningstar Equity Research: Hey, good morning.

Robert Greifeld

Management

How are you doing?

Lee Shavel

Management

Hi, Gaston? Gaston Ceron – Morningstar Equity Research: Doing great. Thanks for taking my question. Just a quick one, going back to the whole issue of M&A, I mean you’ve had obviously some busy times these last couple years with these two big deals you made, and the integration and all the post-deal work to make everything work. And now you’re deleveraging and getting back to the buyback. But I’m curious, as you look forward, you’ve always been a fairly acquisitive company, how would you sort of rank any future M&A opportunities in your uses of capital vis-à-vis other things that you might do?

Robert Greifeld

Management

I think Lee said, well, in the beginning, Gaston. It really depends. I’ve said previously that seems to me it’s a good time to be a seller. Some of the evaluations from our point of view seem to frothy. But to the extent there was a good acquisition opportunity that represented compelling value to our investors and certainly we would be interested. But we also know in the normal course of business share buybacks and dividends are standard practice here. But I would just leave you with a dominant thought that I started with in my comments. Gaston Ceron – Morningstar Equity Research: Great. Thank you.

Robert Greifeld

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That concludes the Q&A session. I will now turn the call back to CEO, Bob Greifeld for closing remarks.

Robert Greifeld

Management

Well, thank you everybody for your time today. As I said, this is a very strong quarter. We continue to execute across different business segments and we’re excited about what the future has to bring. We have an incredibly strong, disciplined management team and we will continue to deliver to you, our investors. So, thank you for your time today and look forward to getting together with you during the quarter and certainly in the call at the end of the third quarter. So thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today’s conference. You may all disconnect and everyone have a great day.