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N-able, Inc. (NABL)

Q4 2021 Earnings Call· Sat, Feb 26, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to N-able’s Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. My name is Brika, and I’ll be today’s event specialist. [Operator Instructions] I would like to hand the call over to Howard Ma, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Sir Howard, please go ahead.

Howard Ma

Analyst

Thank you, Brika, and welcome, everyone, to N-able’s fourth quarter and full year 2021 earnings call. With me today are John Pagliuca, N-able’s President and CEO; and Tim O’Brien, EVP and CFO. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the line for a question-and-answer session. This call is being simultaneously webcast on our Investor Relations website at investors.n-able.com. There, you can also find our earnings press release, which is intended to supplement our prepared remarks during today’s call. Certain statements made during this call are forward-looking statements, including those concerning our financial outlook, our market opportunities, our continued expectations following the spin-off of our business from SolarWinds in July 2021 and the impact of the global economic environment on our business. These statements are based on currently available information and assumptions, and we undertake no duty to update this information except as required by law. These statements are also subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those related to the spin-off transaction completed in July. Additional information concerning these statements and the risks and uncertainties associated with them is highlighted in today’s earnings release and in our filings with the SEC. Copies are available from the SEC or on our IR website. Furthermore, we will discuss various non-GAAP financial measures on today’s call, unless otherwise specified. When we refer to financial measures, we will be referring to the non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of certain GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures discussed on today’s call is available on our earnings press release on our IR website. And now, I will turn the call over to John.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Thanks, Howard, and thank you all for joining us today. About six weeks ago, we had our 2022 company-wide kickoff event. Our leadership team discussed the state of our industry, where N-able is on our journey and why we feel confident about the future. I thought it would be useful to recap a few themes from our kickoff. In 2021, we rallied around the phrase, forward together as we became a standalone company and laid the foundation for success in 2022. With our 2021 mission accomplished, we’ve turned our focus squarely to elevating and accelerating our business. And therefore, our rally cry this year is earned more N-able fans. A fan is more than just a customer, what we call an MSP partner or our growing employee base of N-ablites. Fans also include prospects, strategic partners, industry analysts, media, investors and more. Earning more fans has important implications because in order to do so, we must execute on key objectives such as helping our partners solve their problems, better connect our brand to the market and enhance the overall experience for MSP partners and N-ablite employees alike. As we continue to execute, a growing fan base will be another indicator of success. Two months into the New Year, the environment in 2022, in many ways, still looks a lot like 2021. With the world learning to cope with what may become an endemic phase of COVID, the new normal for work doesn’t look like it’s going away. As such, our industry tailwinds, which include increased IT complexity, labor scarcity and rising cyber threats remain as strong as ever. I want to briefly double-click into each of these. First, IT complexity is best captured by the concept of hybrid everything. In a work from anywhere world, SMEs rely on MSPs to…

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Thank you, Tim. I want to remind everyone of our three key investment areas going into 2022, bolstering our partner success resources, expanding our multipronged go-to-market approach, and bringing powerful and secure products to market faster. While each of these investments have different return horizons, we are realizing progress on all fronts. As a result, we’re seeing steady improvement and sales rep productivity, our partner success managers have been uncovering new opportunities, and we’re happy to reinstitute a regular cadence of product launches with expected multiple new offerings per year going forward. I don’t think we’re alone in noting that the last couple of years have been difficult across the board for a variety of reasons. But from where I sit, I can honestly say I’m overwhelmed by the energy, excitement and resilience of my fellow N-ablites and the optimism and confidence of our MSP partners as we head into 2022. The industry tailwinds we are seeing indicate strength for MSPs across the globe, and we are excited to continue to execute and execute well for our partners and earn more fans in 2022. With that, operator, we are ready to take questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The first question we have from the phone lines comes from Jason Ader of William Blair. Jason, please go ahead.

Jason Ader

Analyst

Yes. Thank you. Good morning, guys. So just two quick ones. First, just on the macro. Does it feel like we’re back to pre-COVID levels of demand? And then secondly, as you think about the top line outlook for this year and beyond. What really gets you guys back to kind of, let’s call it, a mid- to high teens type of top line growth? What are the kind of one or two key catalysts that get you there?

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, Jason. Nice to hear from you again. Look, we intentionally in our prepared remarks, talked a little bit about bookings. For us – and we also gave a reference point that it predates the cyber incident, the rebrand and a couple of other things. For me, it’s a good leading indicator across our geos and our product portfolio that the demand is back and that the MSP community is thriving and growing. So across the entire portfolio, NGO, we do see a strong level of demand, and I think that’s indicative of what we did from our bookings in Q4. To your second question, we always think about the business and the business model from a point of view of land, expand, retain. And for us to get back to that those high teens and even beyond that level. It’s imperative that we continue to execute and progress as we have along those three dimensions, right? And so – we’ve done a good amount on the retained part. We’ve invested in customer success. We’re seeing gross retention and better opportunities from that part of it. So that’s been a steady progress. I think the two key things that we’re seeing now is that returned back to new product introduction for a couple of different reasons. We didn’t have a new product introduction last year, right? And so the fact that we’re out of the gate as early as we are with already a new product introduction, it brings an additional offering for our MSPs to sell to keep their end customers secure. It gives another opportunity for our partner success folks to have a conversation and our sales teams to sell another important SKU in the labor security bit. And we believe we’ll continue to introduce new products throughout the year, which will help with that expansion story, which will help with that net retention story, which will help push us to that higher growth level. That, coupled with that better view of that demand should get our new customer motion continuing to go up into the right and the coupling of all three of those things gives us that belief. And I think you can see that as we – in our guide as well.

Jason Ader

Analyst

And then where do you see NRR going?

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Sorry, Jason, can you repeat that?

Jason Ader

Analyst

Yes. Where do you see net retention rates going for the first?

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Sorry, yes. So we’ve held steady and net retention is comprised of the expand part and in the retained part. So I think the retention part will hold steady, and we should see some slight improvement there. And really, when we’re introducing these new products, that’s when we expect the net retention numbers to be better than where they were this year.

Jason Ader

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We now have our next question on the line from Sterling Auty of JPMorgan. Sterling, please go ahead.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

Yes. Thanks. Hi, guys. So thank you for the comments around the deceleration expected in the first quarter, but I want to dig a little deeper on that. Plenty of commentary about the strength in bookings, strength in demand in the fourth quarter. And what I’m wondering is how long does it take for that strength to translate or how much consistency in that strength you need to really turn the quarter and reaccelerate because I think you talked through, hey, the lower customer adds throughout 2021, but you finished strong. So is this a multi-quarter phenomenon that needs to happen before we get the real bang for the buck in terms of revenue growth.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Sterling, thanks for the question. I’m happy to give some more color. Yes. In the nature of the – the business model and we kind of hit on the drivers of the decel. The nature of the business model does cater to it taking a couple of quarters for that strong performance that we talked to on Q4 bookings to permeate into the business as a lot of the deals are set to kind of ramp over a three or four-month period. So I think if you look at Q1 guidance compared to full year guidance, you kind of see that permeating through the implied acceleration on the top line when you just look at Q1 versus full year guide. And as part of that is also the no NPIs, no new products released in 2021. And we do have a new one that’s just come out in Q1 here as well. So that’s going to be part of the story as well as we accelerate through the year.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

Got it. And then one other follow-up question. Just I didn’t catch in your commentary, the gross margins were down more than I would have expected and more than what we’ve seen seasonally. What in particular in the fourth quarter, weighed on the gross margins?

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Yes. It was primarily just data center costs, and those will fluctuate from time to time, but we expect margins to hold very steady from a gross margin standpoint as we go forward.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We now have another question from the line from Matt Hedberg of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead, when you’re ready, Matt.

Matt Hedberg

Analyst

Thanks for the questions. John, I guess going back to the new booking – the strength in new bookings in 4Q, which is great to hear. It’s probably hard for you to decipher how much of that is N-able specific versus improving MSP trends, but I guess I’ll ask the question. I mean, how much of it do you think is specific to what you guys have done sort of building up close to spin versus just we’re getting back to maybe some more sort of pre-COVID MSP demand trends?

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Thanks. So look, the – also, we had some headwinds that were specific to N-able as well, right? And so we have the SolarWinds breach. We have the rebrand, so we had what I’d call some like micro or brand-specific, company-specific headwinds last year. And so as those dissipate and as we continue to build our brand as we continue to prove to the MSP community, the strength of our security of our offering, that relationship with the MSP community, we’re seeing that performance pick up and those kind of, I’d say, micro unique headwinds to dissipate. So that’s definitely a part of it. I do believe the advancements we’ve made in our product, the security hardening, the continuing development of our offerings, in particular with our data protection offering, our integration that we have with Microsoft, but the improvements we’ve made across our portfolio on an automation level, we’re continuing to see conversion that increased, right? So we talked about sales productivity. The double click into there is conversion is also getting better, we’re winning more. And in particular, we’re winning more at the higher end of the market. As the MSPs get more and more complex, as they’re larger, that’s where we really shine in particular, and our win rates there are actually even better than our average win rates, which for me is a testament to the strength of our platform, the breadth and depth and the development efforts that we’ve done. And so the market there, in particular, the demand there in the high end is pretty strong. Why? We’re continuing to see market consolidation. We’re continuing to see what often people refer to as smart money into the space. And MSPs are getting a little bit more sophisticated. They’re rolling up companies are acquiring one another. And when they do that, that’s the right time to do a tech stack check. And when they’re doing that tech stack check, they’re looking for a platform that’s robust enough and scalable enough and we really shine in that capacity. So on that end of the market, in particular, we’re seeing strong demand and strong conversion rates.

Matt Hedberg

Analyst

Got it. That’s helpful. And then maybe one for Tim, you talked about maybe some of the components that are pressuring your 2022 EBITDA guide versus the Street. It sounds like some of it’s FX, but some of it also was front-end loaded hiring. I’m wondering if you can give a bit more color on where that spend is focused? Is it – is it R&D? Is it sales and marketing? A little bit more color there would be helpful. Tim O’Brien: Yes. Sure, Matt. A little bit of color there. It’s on both fronts. On the sales front, it’s really driving, expanding our go-to-market approach more so from a channel-led motion in some regions where we traditionally had only sold in a direct fashion. So there’s some bigger investments in sales there that investments are going to kind of lead prior to the return. And then on the R&D front, on the product side of things to drive, which John touched on, multiple new product offerings for the year, which we have one come out here in Q1 and others slated for the rest of the year. So those are the key areas of investment that are driving margin a little bit lower in the first half of the year compared to where we expect to see it in the second half of the year.

Matt Hedberg

Analyst

Got it. Thanks a lot guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We now have Mike Cikos of Needham and Company. So, Mike, please go ahead when you’re ready.

Mike Cikos

Analyst

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions here. I wanted to ask about the, I guess, the deceleration, we’ve spoken to in Q1. And I would have thought understandable with the solar wins and the pause on demand gen and the rebrand, but I want to tout we’re moving away from that. So could you help us think about how much of an overhang, when that should dissipate as we’re walking through calendar 2022? And then the follow-up questions for Tim, but do you have constant currency growth rates by quarter for calendar 2021, just to help us level set expectations, are you willing to reiterate the 15% to 17% medium-term revenue growth rates that you guys articulated for the calendar 2023, 2024 timeframe.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Mike, this is John. Tim, I’ll start maybe and then you can add a little bit more color if that’s okay. Tim O’Brien: Sure. Yes.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Mike, just to help reconcile because it’s probably – there probably two statements that probably need some reconciliation, right? In one hand, we’re saying, hey, look, bookings in Q4 are strong and the best in quite some time. And then on the other hand, we’re saying that the new customer – the impact for the new customer business is creating a little bit of a headwind in the revenue growth. The reality is, right, so our booking number that happens in Q4 doesn’t really manifest itself in much revenue in the quarter. I often refer to our business as a snowball business. And those bookings begin to manifest themselves and then they themselves grow into that cohort. And so really, what the revenue growth here that you see in Q4 is really a manifestation of those lower bookings numbers that that lower new customer acquisition performance in that Q1 and even really in some sense, that Q2 period from last year. And as we build beyond that and add better cohorts, from that, you’ll see the impact dissipate and that acceleration begin to kick in. And also, as we bring on these customers, they present obviously a great opportunity now to go cross-sell that breadth and depth of the offering that we have which would help also on the expand front. Tim, sorry, I didn’t mean to cut you off, but you can add and then you can answer Mike’s second question. Tim O’Brien: Yes. I would just add that if you think about when the impact started, it takes a full four quarters to kind of grow over some of that impact. And that’s kind of what we’re seeing here in Q1, where we expect to kind of bottom out from a growth perspective in the year where we really felt the impact of the cyber and the rebrand, a little bit in the very back half of the first quarter of 2021, but more so in Q2, Q3 and Q4. And as we grow over that four-quarter period in Q2 and the rest of the year is where we expect to see that acceleration off of kind of this Q1 metric on that new customer acquisition impact. And then on the constant currency front, last quarter, we gained 14% growth, Q4 was 13% growth and the full year was 12% constant currency growth, so the first half was closer to about a 10% constant currency growth rate.

Mike Cikos

Analyst

That’s great. Thank you. And then I know you’ve also spoken about this return towards more normal new product introductions, which is great to hear. Can you give us a flavor, given last year was a little bit – sale is probably the wrong word, but I know that you guys highlighted the platform hardening, right? So what is a more typical cadence for new product introductions on your part? Anything that would be incremental? Thank you.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Sure. So first, let’s talk about the areas, right? And then we’ll talk about the cadence. So I think it’s important. So we continue to reference these three macro trends and these tailwinds. And that’s the labor scarcity, this digital transformation, the increased risk around cyber. And when you take in – those are the tailwinds, those are also the demands of our MSP partners in the community and those SMEs, right? So we take the needs, we take the demands from our MSPs, but also their customers, and we build our road map accordingly. So you’ll see us bring to market offerings that help in all of those areas, right? So in particular, we referenced in the prepared remarks, solutions that help MSPs with cloud management and the management of the infrastructure and also SaaS part of the cloud. So we expect to bring those along. We continue to expect to bring easy-to-use, but powerful and that’s an important combination, security offerings for these MSPs for them to deploy at a scalable and repeatable way across their customer base. And we will continue to help MSPs manage everything in an automated way to help drive their efficiency up so they can do more with less in this labor kind of scarce world that we’re living in and so those are the areas. As far as cadence, Mike, we – it depends on the level of complexity of what we’re bringing to market. I expect there to be a few. We also need to be mindful a lot of the offerings that we have are in the sell-through capacity. What do I mean? We bring things to market. We actually help the MSPs with the marketing, the education, the collateral, the packaging for them to go sell on to their end customers. So we need to be mindful not to overwhelm the MSP community because they need to process, digest and sell this as well. So it’s a couple, right? I think depending on the year, depending on the demand, depending on the appetite, I expect there to be about two to four offerings per year.

Mike Cikos

Analyst

Very helpful. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We now have a final question on the line from Edward Magi of Berenberg Asset Management. Sir, Edward, please go ahead when you’re ready

Edward Magi

Analyst

Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on a strong cap 2021. First question here, some of the notable wins included MSPs based in foreign countries. A large portion of your total revenue comes from outside of the U.S. today. Can you give a little deeper international strategy, why it’s working and why we could view it as a key strength for N-able moving forward? Thanks.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Sure. Right really built in our original DNA when we really kicked the company off. We’ve had a strong presence in Europe via our both combination of our local teams in the UK and in the Netherlands, but also with these distribution partners. So we have considered an intimate relationship with some key distributors in geos that really have a strong MSP presence and that’s been our history. What we’ve done in the last, really, let’s say, 12 months to 18 months, and we’re continuing to lean in is how we somewhat refer to as a hybrid or a multipronged approach, where we’re now coupling our own sales teams with these distribution partners to go deeper into their base and to do two things: one, to win bigger accounts, larger MSPs with a little bit maybe more of a complex, say, Y because my earlier question, we do better. We win when the MSPs are looking for a more complex bit. We’re helping the distributors win those larger accounts, the more strategic accounts, number one. Number two, as it relates to data protection and security, we’re bringing that expertise that our security expertise, our data protection expertise to the distributor because that end customer really wants to talk to that expert who actually understand solution a little bit more intimately. And that’s been that winning combination where our distributors are helping us with the customer care and the management, in particular, in languages that we might not cover personally. And then we’re coming in with that expertise and that know-how to give that MSP that perfect combination that they’re looking for, the expert – that global expert with that local touch. And it’s that combination that really, I believe, has us leading internationally in the market.

Edward Magi

Analyst

Really helpful. And just one more for me. You’ve demonstrated many times the strength of the partnership with SentinelOne, which has stuck out in some key cross-sell cases. Can you quickly walk us through the approach you take to evaluating product introductions, maybe how you weigh new partnerships versus acquiring companies and developing technologies themselves? Thanks.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Great question. We start with that demand that I mentioned to Mike’s question earlier, right? And then we take a look at what is the best way to service the MSP. That is our North Star. And we have three avenues there, Ed, right? We obviously build a lot of the technology ourselves and whether that be our complete data protection suite, our patch management suite, our e-mail security suite, our password management suite. These are all our own proprietary technology and we build that ourselves. And then if we believe that we can build it ourselves, that’s what we’ll do. We will also look across and see if we should partner. And in the case of SentinelOne, what we know that, that – we believe that them to be a leading partner providing the best solution for our MSPs that are both powerful and easy to use. And we took their powerful stack, brought it into our platform, made it more MSP-friendly, did a tight integration with a tremendous amount of work to make it a little bit easier for MSP to deploy and manage and navigate through, and that’s where we would go through more of the OEM path, where we believe there’s a technology out there that it’s better to partner with the industry leader. And if it’s an area where – we believe, we want to keep our flexibility and options open if the technology evolves, we have the flexibility now to go with another vendor. And then lastly, and you brought this up, we are always looking at potential ways to bring in new offerings through inorganic means. This is a muscle that we did not flex in 2021, but now that we have the spin behind us, now that we’re squarely focused on elevating and accelerating our business, I expect us to leverage that muscle as we go into 2022.

Edward Magi

Analyst

Very helpful. We’re just been behind you. Very excited to see with new store for 2022. That’s it for me. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for that, Edward. We now have another question on the line from Mike Cikos of Needham and Company. Sir please go ahead as opened your line.

Mike Cikos

Analyst

Hey guys, thank you for getting me on real quick for this follow-up. I know earlier I had asked a pretty long-winded question, so I apologize upfront for the word, and I got to work on that. But one of the things I did want to highlight from the earlier question. You guys, at the time of the spin, discussed the 15% to 17% revenue target over the medium-term to calendar 2023 and 2024, are you willing to reiterate that? And I know I had asked it earlier, but I wanted to make sure that we had that all out there and holding for everyone on the earnings call. Thank you.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Yes. Hey Mike, it just looks…

Mike Cikos

Analyst

Yes. That’s right.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

And nothing – nothing – and I didn’t – nothing has changed on that front. I think if you go back to kind of some of the points we’ve hit on, on kind of getting new customer acquisition normalized, getting our new product introduction back into the normal cadence of bringing a couple of those to market per year, continuing to invest in our partner success team in that motion and that strategy to drive higher retention rates, we still feel confident in that kind of mid-term range that you mentioned in the 15% to 17% number for the medium-term.

Mike Cikos

Analyst

Thank you. Tim O’Brien: Yes. Mike, just to – as we look at the performance of the last quarter where we are now, for me and the team frankly, we’re right on course, right? We’ve accomplished what we wanted to accomplish. We’re quite pleased with what we’ve accomplished, and we feel we’re in the exact position we thought we would be in to move this business and begin to accelerate.

Mike Cikos

Analyst

Great. Thank you again guys. I do appreciate it.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

I appreciate the follow-up again, Mike.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. As we have no further questions registered, I’d like to hand it back to John for some closing remarks.

John Pagliuca

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for attending this conference and looking forward to talking to you all again in 90 days.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today’s call. Thank you again for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.