The Marzetti Company (MZTI) Q3 2021 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

Good morning. My name is Casey, and I will be your conference call facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Lancaster Colony Corporation Fiscal Year 2021 Third Quarter Conference Call. Conducting today's call will be Dave Ciesinski, President and CEO; and Tom Pigott, CFO. [Operator Instructions]. And now to begin the conference call, here is Dale Ganobsik, Vice President of Investor Relations and the Treasurer for Lancaster Colony Corporation. Please go ahead, sir.

Thank you, Casey. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Lancaster Colony's Fiscal Year 2021 Third Quarter Conference Call. Our discussion this morning may include forward-looking statements which are subject to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially and the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements based upon subsequent events. A detailed discussion of these risks and uncertainties is contained in the company's filings with the SEC. Also note that the audio replay of this call will be archived and available on our company's website, lancastercolony.com, later this afternoon. For today's call, Dave Ciesinski, our President and CEO, will begin with a business update and highlights for the quarter. Tom Pigott, our CFO, will then provide an overview of the financial results. Dave will then share some comments regarding our current outlook and strategy. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we'll be happy to respond to any of your questions. Once again, we appreciate your participation this morning. I'll now turn the call over to Lancaster Colony's President and CEO, Dave Ciesinski. Dave?

Thanks, Dale, and good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to be here with you today as we review our third quarter results for fiscal year 2021. I'd like to begin by extending a sincere thank you to the entire Lancaster Colony team for all their contributions and hard work during this past quarter. The record sales and strong financial results are a testament to our team's ability to adapt and deliver despite the challenges posed by the impacts of COVID-19. Throughout the pandemic, we've remained steadfast that our mission is fixed: first, to provide for the health, safety and welfare of our teammates; and second, to ensure that we continue to play our role in our country's vital food supply chain. In our fiscal third quarter ended March 31, consolidated net sales grew 11.2% to a third quarter record $357 million. Net sales in our Retail segment grew 17.1% while net sales in our Foodservice segment advanced 4.6%. Excluding Omni Baking, consolidated net sales increased 13% and Foodservice net sales grew 8.4%. Retail net sales benefited from higher demand as the impact of the pandemic increased at-home food consumption. Our licensing program continue to grow and we advanced in our efforts to attract and retain new customers for our core brands. The growth was led by Chick-fil-A sauces, Olive Garden dressings and Buffalo Wild Wings sauces. These products, which we sell under exclusive license agreements accounted for nearly 13 percentage points of growth in our retail segment during our fiscal third quarter. Chick-fil-A sauces alone accounted for about 8 percentage points of growth in our Retail segment. Our regional rollout of Chick-fil-A sauces into the retail channel continued as planned during the quarter as we further expanded distribution into the Southeastern and South Central United States, adding 11 more states from Texas to the Mid-Atlantic. Per IRI data, the velocity, buy rates and repeat rates for Chick-fil-A sauces continue to meet or exceed our expectations. and we remain very excited about the opportunities that lie ahead. With respect to our own brands, IRI data shows that we grew sale and increased market share in several of our key retail categories during the quarter. Sales of Marzetti refrigerated salad dressings grew 9% and added 40 basis points of market share. New York Bakery frozen garlic bread grew 10.7% and gained 290 basis points of market share. Sister Schubert's frozen dinner roles increased 7.6% and gained 10 basis points of market share. These results demonstrate the positive impact of our digital marketing programs that we have put in place to attract and retain new users. As we emerge from the pandemic and our retail segment begins to lap the demand surges attributed to greater at-home consumption, we believe our portfolio of retail product offerings has us well positioned for continued growth. In our Foodservice segment, sales to national account QSR and pizza chain customers remained a source of strength representing over 60% of our total Foodservice sales in the third quarter. NPD CREST data and our firsthand observations suggest that the increasing number of vaccinations and the economic stimulus programs are driving much higher demand for restaurants. Encouragingly, this includes strong growth for many of the casual dining concepts in our mix of national account customers as well. The base business for the QSR concepts we supply continues to be robust, and we are seeing a notable uptick in their limited time offer menu offerings. Our top-tier culinary team and the collaborative approach we take with our customers to develop new menu items remains a key component of the growth and success of our Foodservice segment. Despite the higher manufacturing costs related to the impacts of COVID-19, our third quarter gross profit grew 17.7% to $90.6 million. This was driven by double-digit sales growth and a more favorable sales mix. As with prior quarters, we continue to follow protocols and guidelines provided by government health authorities. We also continue to make the necessary investments to promote safe operations at all of our plants and distribution centers. I'll now turn the call over to Tom Pigott, our CFO, for his commentary on our third quarter financial results.

Thanks, Dave. Overall, the results for the quarter exceeded our expectations. As Dave highlighted, the strong top line performance in both segments allowed the company to drive improved bottom line performance. Third quarter consolidated net sales increased by 11.2% to $37.2 million. Excluding Omni Baking sales of $5.3 million in the prior year quarter, consolidated net sales increased by 13%. Omni Baking sales were attributed to a temporary supply agreement. The supply agreement ended on October 31, 2020, as planned. Consolidated gross profit increased by $13.6 million or 17.7% to $90.6 million, margins expanded by 140 basis points. The growth was driven by higher sales volume in both segments. Gross profit growth also benefited from lapping of the prior year Foodservice finished goods inventory charge of $4.5 million. In addition, we experienced approximately $3.5 million in lower benefit costs in our cost of goods sold for the quarter. These lower costs were driven by 2 factors: First, medical benefit costs were down by approximately $2 million. This decline was driven by reduced claims during the period as well as a more efficient medical benefits plan. We also made our revision to our vacation policy to make it consistent across facilities. This change benefited gross profit by approximately $1.5 million. We expect the vacation policy change will continue to provide about that level of favorability for each of the next 3 quarters, and then costs will return to historical levels. Partial offsets to gross profit growth were higher manufacturing costs, including costs related to the impact of COVID-19 as well as increased costs for outsourced production at coal manufacturers and commodity cost inflation. The COVID-19-related items included about $3.5 million in frontline worker pay and other hard costs for shift separations, expenditures for personal protective equipment and sick leave expenses. We also incurred soft costs totaling an estimated $1 million. These costs were driven by increased demand and mix changes related to COVID-19. More specifically, these expenses included higher internal freight and distribution costs and utilization of some less efficient production lots to help meet demand. For your reference, we incurred approximately $1 million in COVID hard costs in the prior year quarter. Selling, general and administrative expenses increased $6.3 million or 13.3% driven by higher -- primarily by higher spending for Project Ascent. Consolidated operating income increased by $7.4 million or 24.7% to $37.4 million. The key driver of the operating income growth for the quarter was a strong top line performance and the resulting gross profit improvement. Our affected tax rate was 22.6% this quarter versus a tax rate of 27% in the third quarter of fiscal '20. This quarter's rate benefited from an increase in our research and development tax credit. We estimate the tax credit -- tax rate for the fourth quarter to be 24%. Third quarter diluted earnings per share increased $0.24 to $1.05. The increase was driven by the underlying performance of the business and the lower tax rate, offset by the investment we're making in Project Ascent and lower interest income on our cash holdings. The Project Ascent investment reduced EPS growth by $0.17 per share. With regard to capital expenditures, first, fiscal year-to-date payments for property additions totaled $55.6 million. For our fiscal year ending June 30, we are forecasting total capital expenditures of $110 million. This forecast includes spending related to the expansion project at our Hardscape, Kentucky facility. This expansion will allow us to meet the fast-growing demand for our dressing and sauce products. The total cost for the expansion is estimated at approximately $130 million, with expenditures of $30 million planned for this fiscal year. In addition to investing in our business, we also returned funds to shareholders. Our quarterly cash dividend paid on March 31 was $0.75 per share, a 7% increase from the prior year amount. Our long-standing streak of annual dividend increases reached 58 years in December. Even with the investments we're making and the increased dividend payments, our financial position remains very strong as we finished the quarter debt-free with $211 million of cash on the balance sheet. So to wrap up my commentary, this quarter featured strong growth in both segments and solid execution of our strategies across the business. We continue to monitor and adjust to the impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak, while investing for the long-term potential of the business. Now I'll turn it back over to Dave for his closing remarks. Thank you.

Thanks, Tom. As we look ahead, Lancaster Colony will continue to leverage the combined strength of our team, our operating strategy and our balance sheet in support of the 3 simple pillars of our growth plan: number one, to accelerate our core business growth; number two, to simplify our supply chain to reduce cost and grow our margins; and number three, to identify and execute complementary M&A to grow our core. In our fiscal fourth quarter, we expect to continue to drive net sales growth. As the country comes out of the pandemic, we anticipate a shift in our net sales mix from retail to Foodservice. Nonetheless, we expect our retail net sales will continue to benefit from growth in our licensing program. We are also making great progress with expanding distribution of Chick-fil-A sauces in the retail channel and are pleased to share that last week, we began shipping Chick-fil-A sauces to retail locations nationwide. The impacts of COVID-19 will remain a headwind for our manufacturing cost in our fiscal fourth quarter, while commodity costs are projected to remain on an upward trend. We expect our net price realization efforts and ongoing cost savings programs will help to offset these higher cost. Specific to that price realization, at this point, I can share that we've developed a plan to help offset inflationary costs for our retail segment through a combination of pricing and reduced trade spending. In the Foodservice segment, as most of you are aware, our contracts are tied to ingredient costs, so increased commodity costs can be offset with inflationary pricing. Also of note, with the distribution of COVID vaccines now broadly available throughout the United States, we have notified our frontline teammates of our plans to discontinue the COVID-related temporary wage increases at the end of our fiscal fourth quarter. Our ERP initiative Project Ascent is progressing with implementation planned for fiscal 2022. As we look ahead, I want to share with you some insight regarding our plans for the reporting of Project Ascent cost. When we go live on the system in fiscal 2022, costs such as software maintenance and application management services will be reported as part of our base SG&A expenses and no longer included as part of our Project Ascent cost. The cost attributed to our ERP implementation activities, most notably the fees paid to third-party systems integrators and wages and benefits for our personnel assigned to the ERP implementation, will continue to be specified as Project Ascent expenditures until the project is complete. Moving on to our supply chain strategy. Our significant investment in production capacity at our dressing and sauce facility in Horse Cave, Kentucky is moving forward as planned with a target completion time frame in the first quarter of fiscal 2023. We also broke ground on another expansion project for 1 of our facilities located in Columbus, Ohio. This expansion will provide us with 3 new packaging lines to support growing demand for dressing and sauces in our Foodservice segment and has a target completion date near the midpoint of fiscal 2022. In closing, I would once again like to thank the entire Lancaster Colony team for all that they have done and continue to do to fulfill our mission despite all of the unprecedented challenges imposed by this pandemic. This concludes our prepared remarks for today, and we'd be happy to answer any questions that you might have. Casey?

[Operator Instructions]. Your first question here comes from the line of Todd Brooks from CL King & Associates.

Congratulations on the sales results in the quarter. It's just really great to see that type of acceleration. So congrats.

Well, thank you, Todd. We really appreciate it.

A few questions for you, and one, I don't know if you're willing to do this for us or not. But can you kind of dimensionalize what the move from regional to national over the course of this upcoming quarter should mean from an incremental revenue stream for Chick-fil-A on top of the good performance that you're seeing in the states that you're in?

Well, Todd, obviously, it's going to depend on the timing of how fast the product gets on the shelf. So it's a little bit hard to estimate. What we can tell you is, just in the most recent quarter, if you look at IRI data, Chick-fil-A sauce was probably around $15 million of net sales in the period. So If you think about it, that's 10 states, 1 quarter, and now it's going to be expanding throughout the remainder of the states. So the hardest part to project here is just the timing within which it's going to get on those shelves. So it's a little bit difficult for us to do that. We can certainly tell you that we expect it to continue to grow and for the growth to be robust. But to try to call it closer than that's difficult. We expect retailers like Kroger and Walmart and those with national reach to become, at this point, quite efficient at cutting it into the shelf. Some of the smaller players, what we found in the markets where we've had it out so far, it just takes a little bit longer. But suffice it to say, it's going to be making an impact in the quarter, and we're really excited about how it's performing.

That's great. That's really helpful, Dave. And then just I know you talked about this with some of the margin gives and takes going forward. But you talked last quarter about pulling back on trade promotions and advertising and it wasn't really an expense management move. It was more of a demand management move. Are we still in that kind of state here in the third quarter? And is that a longer-term kind of chasing demand type of state that's allowing you to look at maybe repurposing some of those trade promos going forward?

Sure, Todd. So as you look at it sequentially, there was not as big a trade back -- pullback in Q3 as it was in Q2. We are starting to reinstate support to basically attract and retain the new users as we come out of the pandemic. And so appropriately, we didn't see as much sequential quarterly improvement, but we were favorable overall on trade versus the prior year.

Okay. Great. And then 1 final one for now. If we look at kind of gross margin outlook going forward. The puts and takes, you talked about inflationary pressures probably accelerating, but you also talked about your success with net price realization and the contract structure in retail allowing you to pass through. Do you have an outlook for incremental gross margin pressure in Q4 relative to what you saw in Q3?

Yes. I think we're expecting, as Dave mentioned, higher commodity costs as we go into Q4. On a full year basis, our PNOC will be favorable. But in Q4, there may be some giveback given the higher commodity pressures we're seeing. I think longer term, we do have -- the retail team has done a wonderful job of putting together a plan to help us offset the commodity inflation that we expect to see next fiscal year.

It's worth noting that we're going to continue to have the COVID-related hero pay in there as well. The COVID card cost in this period also.

Your next question comes from the line of Bill Newby from D.A. Davidson.

Congrats again on the quarter.

Thank you, Bill. Nice to speak with you.

Yes. So Dave, I guess just first, do you mind giving us kind of the update on Foodservice customers kind of across your customer base now that we've kind of been lapping COVID for around a month now, just, I guess, what you're seeing across that landscape there would be super helpful?

Yes, absolutely happy to do that and share it with You, Bill. What I would tell you is really through probably, let's call it, the first half of March, what we were seeing was what I would describe as a fundamental lead recovery driven by an increase in vaccination rates. And it was sort of across the board. And I would -- rather than talking about comps versus prior year, maybe just talk about the sales information and traffic, right? Because the comps start to get walked -- a little bit wonky. If you look at really the sales and the traffic rates across all the segments, QSR, casual and mid-scale, they were all improving sequentially. Once we get to mid-March, we seem to hit an inflection point, not just we here at Lancaster Colony, but the entire foodservice space, honestly. And we're hypothesizing that, that was driven by these stimulus checks that dropped into people's pockets and all of a sudden the abundance of discretionary spending that they had. Because at that point, we started to see a real uptick that was across the board, right? You could see there wasn't a material change in the fundamentals, there was a sequential improvement in vaccination, but there was a step change and increase in traffic and sales. And it was at QSR, it was a casual, and to a lesser degree, even in mid-scale. We didn't see those sorts of moves in the non-comp accounts, as you might imagine, schools have reopened, but it's a little bit mixed as you look across the countries. Universities are kind of in the same place. The stadiums and outdoor venues remain closed. So this change, this step change really seemed to take place in mid-March, and we're theorizing it was driven by the stimulus checks. And that has only recovered. So if you were to sort of draw a graph and show it, you see sort of a smooth line increasing if you look at just -- and again, not versus comps because it would be wonky, but you would see a line increasing to the right driven by these fundamental improvements. Mid-March, boom, step change, and we've seen that trend only continue into early April, through April and now into early May. And what we're trying to understand inside and I think a lot of our partners and our supply chain and peers out in the industry are, how long is this going to last? We expect that certainly this spike is transitory in nature and driven by stimulus. We expect there might be a little bit of a pull back off of these crazy comps and then a resumption of a smooth increase as we work our way out of the pandemic.

Right. That's super helpful, Dave, very detailed. And then I guess just 1 more on Chick-fil-A. Super helpful if you guys -- if you could give us maybe a little bit of a compare and contrast as you have continued to roll out into new regions. And I guess, how the repeat rates and velocities that you're seeing in new regions compared to those same initial data points that you saw in the Southeast and Florida? I'm wondering how much variance there is in as you roll into a new market, if these new regions are going as successfully as those first kind of more core display market bid?

Sure. The short answer is they're very consistent. And we're finding that they're actually consistent across customers as well. Like we were able to give more detailed data for Walmart and Kroger, for example, and we're seeing the performance is quite consistent and -- now mind you that the data -- certainly, the panel data that we could look at things like repeat and buy rate is limited to the Southeast region where we've been the longest, right? We're not going to have that for the last week where we started to ship nationally. But if you look throughout the Southeast and into areas in the mid-Atlantic, what we're noting is that the trial rate, the repeat rate, the velocities of the product seem to remain quite consistent with some of the areas that we've had in the Southeast. Now there's a novelty question that's hanging out there on this, right? How long, we're still only, in the case of the Southeast, about a quarter into the launch. And the question is, will it continue to run at these rates? But so far, It's -- as we said in the script, it's meeting and exceeding our expectations. We're carefully monitoring it. We're obviously in active discussions with our retail partners and with Chick-fil-A. But it's where we thought it would be and the good news is we have the capacity in the supply chain where it needs to be, just to provide for deliberate sequential growth and then we'll see how high is high on this.

Right. That's super. And then I guess just one more follow-up in terms of potentially layering on additional licensing agreements here. I mean we get the question a lot, like what could be the next Buffalo or what could be the next Chick-fil-A? And I'm not sure you guys really need it with how Chick-fil-A's going. But I mean, can you guys even -- do you have the capacity to entertain another agreement right now with how this ramp is going? I mean you're continuing to announce additional expansions presumably to satisfy this demand. I mean, I guess, what is your capacity like to take on another licensing agreement with somebody?

In some respects, Bill, we view this like we would look at M&A. And I would tell you, the way increasing we're thinking about is we have organic growth and we have the inorganic growth. In many respects, this is another form of inorganic growth, and we cultivate a pipeline of potential partners in the same way that you would in a traditional M&A sense. And when it comes to taking on the next deal, we might think about it the same way as well. In many respects, When we're ramping up something as big as, let's say, Chick-fil-A sauce right now, obviously, there's a lot of stress and strain on the supply chain as we make sure that we have the capacity in place to roll this thing out. Really, it's no different than a merger integration in many respects. In some areas, particularly In terms of the startup, it's slightly more complicated. But what I can tell you is we have an active and ongoing pipeline of discussions with current license partners for where we can move horizontally into other categories that would be a fit for us. And then we're also looking at adding altogether new partners. I would tell you I feel safe in saying don't expect a big announcement in Q4. We're going to come out another one because our plate is pretty full right now, just making sure that we have the capacity online, and we can safely operate our factories as we exit the pandemic. But as we move into next year and Chick-fil-A starts to really get in place in terms of distribution and Buffalo Wild Wings, we feel like things will open back up, and we can be in a position to get aggressive again and look at traditional M&A for that matter.

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Bell from Consumer Edge Research.

I know you don't provide guidance, but could you maybe provide a bit more context on your expectations for fiscal 2022? The dynamics in the upcoming year obviously going to be a lot different than what we saw in fiscal 2021. Foodservice this quarter came in pretty strong from what we saw and it seems to bode pretty well for a strong recovery. How should we think about the growth opportunity given the upcoming easier compares? And also given the fact that national accounts actually performed reasonably well, all things considered during COVID. And so, to see how much room there is for growth in fiscal 2022 for the national account section versus the branded and other?

Sure. Ryan, we haven't given guidance traditionally. And given the circumstances of all the complexities surrounding the pandemic, we certainly don't see -- believe this is the time to start. But maybe what we can do is just sort of provide you with a little insight on how we're thinking about the business on a go-forward basis. So as you nicely pointed out, We expect to see the first thing, this reversal in terms of channels, right? We expect to see pretty strong growth coming out of our Foodservice business as consumers return back to normal. And we expect to see some element of a pullback on our retail business for the very same reasons. Now the X factor that we have in that equation is that we do have a lot of new items that we've rolled out, namely Chick-fil-A sauces that'll be out on a national basis and then Buffalo Wild Wings which we're going to be expanding as well. And if you think about it, this next year, fiscal year '22 will be a full year for all intents and purposes of both of those products. They're pretty close to a full year. That should give us a nice tailwind on the retail business. So what we expect to see happen generally is the ability to continue to post positive comps on our retail business despite this pullback. Now there'll be modest growth net-net, but we expect to be able to post growth. And then obviously, given the softer comps in Foodservice, we expect to see some continued growth as well. So I think compared to others in the industry, we feel fortunate in that our portfolio allows us to continue to deliver sequential growth as we've sort of weathered the pandemic and now as we come out of the pandemic. On the cost side of the ledger, it's most -- a much harder sort of thing to call right now. As you've heard from some of the others on the call, and I'm sure other companies that you're tracking, Ryan, there's just a lot of cross winds that are out there right now, right? So first, close to home for us, we have this shift in mix of the 2 channels. As our Foodservice business grows and our retail business pulls back, that's a negative shift in mix. Now our retail business, given the new items, will help [indiscernible] that somewhat. We expect to see significant inflation. I mean we're looking at inflation that's clearly in the mid-single digits, driven by soybean, corn, wheat, corrugate, flexible packaging as well as transportation. That's going to be weighing on the period now to counter that, another cross wind. We have pricing activities. We have pricing activities in Foodservice that are mark-to-market based on inflation. And then we have our own pricing intentions that are laid out we talked about here on the call for our retail business. We expect to see a bit of a boost coming from the fact that we did or we have announced that we're going to be stopping the hero payments going out to our teammates. That will be after 14 months, I believe, that we had those in place. But now that the country is fully vaccinated, we feel like there's an opportunity to do that. So there's a mix of different things that are going on in the space, but it sort of netted all out. We like where we stand. We see the opportunity for sequential growth. We think it's going to be healthy growth across both elements of our portfolio. And we feel like there is inflation, but we have plans in place to manage it, right? So we're going to continue to work our playbook. And if you go back and you look at it, we have a strong innovation process that we use to drive new items, whether it's with a licensing partner or a core brand. We have a really, really terrific commodity and risk management process that's been in place now about 3 years that gives us both visibility and the ability to hedge on increases. We have a great operations management process that helps us manage our cost within our facilities and create fuel to invest back in the business or drop to the bottom line. And just an experienced leadership team that's really, we've talked a lot about the teammates, sort of writ large. I probably haven't talked enough about the leadership team here in the segments, Foodservice and retail, the supply chain team, the innovation team, strategy, just Tom and our CFO, that have really bound together through this to just help navigate the company through these times. So as you kind of look forward on the horizon, and that's really where we're keeping our eyes fixed rather than just on the front of the ship per se. We like where we stand and we see the opportunity for sequential growth as we come out of the pandemic. Period by period, we're going to have to wait and see how some of these things shake out, but that's how we view it.

I appreciate the color. And I know you answered a few key questions so far on Chick-fil-A, but it's an important part of the story. If you're thinking about where your ACV is currently, I mean, we're seeing, I think it's somewhere in the 25% to 30% range in the latest data. How should we think about the expansion and potentially a ceiling on where that can get over the next 1 to 2 years?

Well, obviously, we would expect, by the end of certainly '22, to have it at 100% ACV. The questions is going to be then where are we going to get in terms of our TDPs right? Do we start to think about moving into different sizes and things like that. So I'm assuming that when you're doing this, you're comparing our products versus other peers in the segment, right? We certainly are and we're using it as a means by which to triangulate and think about how big this can be for our planning purposes. And our goal is to get it out on every shelf and our retailers are very excited about it and they're cutting it in. So I think it's full speed ahead.

And I think the last one for me. In terms of capital allocation, can you talk about your thinking you take the M&A landscape is big now? And then maybe what the opportunities might be over the near to medium term?

Sure. I'll take that one, Ryan. So today, we're keenly focused on executing against the opportunities in front of us that Dave highlighted. We're also in the midst of our ERP implementation, Project Ascent, which is going well, and we expect it to go live in fiscal '22 on that. So in the near term, we're monitoring. We're looking at things, but we're not as active as maybe we've been historically. Now going forward, we see -- post Project Ascent, we see the potential for us to look at maybe larger transactions than we've looked at in the past, given the potential we could drive both top line growth as well as synergies once we're on the Project Ascent platform. From what we're seeing today, we are seeing transactions go at very high multiples, given some of the funds that are in the market and they grow the spack. So we're going to be disciplined buyers as we change our stance going forward. So in the short term, nothing, no immediate plans. Longer term, we do see some potential there.

And as you're looking out to that point, is there a leverage ratio that you would feel comfortable with?

So obviously, we have a pristine balance sheet today. We don't, we don't -- we honestly don't anticipate maintaining a conservative balance sheet going forward into the long term. But certainly, obviously, capital allocation really depends a lot on the opportunities. And if we can drive good shareholder return on a transaction we feel very good about, we're certainly willing to take on some leverage. But overall, we continue to want to be underlevered relative to our peers and maintain our conservative capital structure.

And if there are no further questions, we will now turn the call back over to Mr. Ciesinski for his concluding comments.

Thank you, Casey, and thank you, everyone, for your participation this morning. We look forward to sharing our fourth quarter results with you in late August. Have a great day.

And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.