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The Manitowoc Company, Inc. (MTW)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Fri, Aug 8, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to The Manitowoc Company Second Quarter of 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Ion Warner, Vice President, Marketing and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Ion M. Warner

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our earnings call to review the company's second quarter 2025 financial performance and business update as outlined in last evening's press release. Joining me this morning with prepared remarks are Aaron Ravenscroft, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Brian Regan, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Earlier this morning, we posted our slide presentation on the Investor Relations section on our website, manitowoc.com, which you can use to follow along with our prepared remarks. Please turn to Slide 2. Before we start, please note our safe harbor statement in the material provided for this call. During today's call, forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 are made based on the company's current assessment of its markets and other factors that affect its business. However, actual results could differ materially from any implied or actual projections due to one or more of the factors, among others, described in the company's latest SEC filings. The Manitowoc Company does not undertake any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether the result of new information, future events or other circumstances. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Aaron.

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

Thank you, Ion, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to Slide 3. To start, I'd like to express my deep appreciation for the hard work of the Manitowoc team. While the great trade reset continues, I'm really proud of how our teams continuously reacts to the ever- changing tariff landscape and focuses on finding solutions to service our customers. During the second quarter, we generated $540 million in revenue and $26 million in adjusted EBITDA. Orders were $454 million and backlog ended the period at $729 million. Our non-new machine sales were $162 million, up 10% year-over-year. In terms of tariffs, during our first quarter call, we were modeling $60 million in incremental tariffs for the year with plans to mitigate 80% to 90% of these costs. Today, we believe the full year gross impact of tariffs is $35 million. The change in our assumption is due to a combination of lower purchases and a different mix of various tariffs. We expect to mitigate 90% of these costs. Given the fluid nature of the situation and the price elasticity of cranes in the short term, we see a drag on demand in the United States. Moving to the Manitowoc Way. We recently held our annual corporate kaizen at Niella, Italy. For this kaizen, we organized 4 dedicated teams to focus on enhancing the information and material flow essential to building rough terrain cranes. As always, a good kaizen is a humbling experience. It reminds us that running a production line smoothly is only possible if all of the necessary parts are available exactly when needed. And sometimes that's a big if. Team walked away with a year's worth of action items, but what stood out most was the continued growth in collaboration and teamwork across the organization. It's inspiring to…

Brian P. Regan

Analyst

Thanks, Aaron, and good morning, everyone. Please move to Slide 5. During the period, we had orders of $454 million, an increase of 6% from a year ago, resulting in Q2 ending backlog of $729 million. The higher order intake was driven primarily by our European tower crane business, where new machine orders were up 104% year-over-year. In addition, we saw an increase in our non-new machine orders. As Aaron mentioned, our third-party dealers in the U.S. are reluctant to commit to orders at this time due to the uncertainty around tariffs. For the quarter, this slowdown in demand was more than offset by higher orders in MGX, our wholly owned distribution business as end customers place orders to lock in pricing on in-stock units. Net sales in the quarter were $540 million, a decrease of 4% from a year ago. We missed several deliveries due to supply chain constraints and last-minute commercial delays. Our non-new machine sales were $162 million during the quarter, up 10% year-over- year demonstrating the momentum we continue to build around our Cranes+50 strategy. On a trailing 12-month basis, non-new machine sales were $659 million, another record. SG&A was $87 million in the quarter, up $4 million year-over-year. On an adjusted basis, SG&A was up $9 million year-over-year. Foreign currency accounted for $2 million with the balance driven by the Bauma trade show and other employee-related costs. Our adjusted EBITDA was $26 million, down $10 million year-over-year. This was primarily driven by the lower sales and the higher SG&A. The net headwinds from tariffs in the quarter was approximately $1 million. Our GAAP diluted income per share in the quarter was $0.04. On an adjusted basis, diluted income per share was $0.08, a decrease of $0.17 year-over-year. Please turn to Slide 6. Net working capital ended the quarter at $580 million, up $63 million year-over-year, of which $43 million was due to the payment of the EPA matter in April. Additionally, foreign currency accounted for $14 million of the increase. Moving to cash flows. We used $68 million of cash in operating activities during the quarter, which includes the $43 million payment to resolve the EPA matter. Capital expenditures were $6 million, of which $3 million was for our rental fleet. Our cash balance was $33 million, and total liquidity was $238 million at the end of the quarter. As anticipated, our net leverage ratio increased to approximately 4x. We are focused on bringing our leverage back below our targeted 3x by year-end. Looking to the full year, between the tariffs and the build plan reductions mentioned by Aaron, we have line of sight to achieving the low end of our previously issued adjusted EBITDA guidance of $120 million to $145 million. With that, I'll now turn the call back to Aaron.

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

Thank you, Brian. Please turn to Slide 7. While we anxiously wait to see how the global trade reset plays out, we remain steadfast in our Cranes+50 strategy. During the quarter, we continued executing our strategy to strengthen our aftermarket business. We opened a new service branch near Warsaw, Poland, and we expanded locations in Sydney, Australia; Nance, France and Nashville. Our culture continues to evolve from being product-focused to customer-oriented. A good example of this is in Australia, where we started to offer aftermarket tires, outrigger pads and rigging hardware to our customers, providing more of a one-stop shop. Every day, we get better at servicing our customers. In terms of improving our effectiveness as an aftermarket organization, we recently went live with ServiceMax. This system replaces over a dozen different legacy systems. It enhances technician productivity, significantly upgrades our ability to manage service contracts and reduces administrative overhead. My favorite part of the tool is that it provides us global asset management so we can track every machine we manufacture from cradle to grave. It's a great repository for all of the maintenance and service work on any crane we sell, and it will keep us more closely connected to the iron when it gets traded or sold into the secondary market. Needless to say, ServiceMax is a big leap forward from the legacy ad hoc Excel-based systems our teams previously used. Our CRANES+50 strategy is driving growth in higher-margin recurring revenue streams and creating long-term value for our business. While the turbulent second quarter was hard on the ROE business, our MGX business in the U.S. posted great results. This is proof that our strategy is working. In closing, while the global political and economic situation remains unpredictable, our focus stays squarely on servicing our customers. The better we serve them, the stronger our partnerships become. When conditions improve, we'll be ready. In the meantime, we remain committed to executing our CRANES+50 strategy and creating long-term shareholder value. With that, we'll open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] our first question here will come from Steven Fisher with UBS.

Steven Michael Fisher

Analyst

It sounds like a very challenging overall backdrop. But just wanted to ask you about the backlog and the cadence of EBITDA for the next couple of quarters. Within the context of that $730 million roughly of backlog, what's the duration of that? Is that all expected to be shipped kind of within this year? Just curious how much coverage you have on your plan for Q3 and then Q4? And then if there's a cadence of the roughly $70 million of EBITDA that you still expect for Q3 versus for Q4?

Brian P. Regan

Analyst

Yes. Steve, it's Brian. We always have seasonality with Q3 and Q4 with Q4 being the better of the 2 quarters. From a backlog standpoint, I'd say most of that backlog is expected to ship this year. That's pretty normal when you look at our backlog with the vast majority of it being for Q3, and then we've got some good coverage in Q4 as well.

Steven Michael Fisher

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then just want to understand maybe a little bit more about the regional dynamics on the orders. It sounds like, obviously, pretty strong orders in Europe. Just kind of curious how to think about the book-to-bill here in the various regions within your kind of overall 0.8-ish, 0.9x. Like was U.S. like an under 0.5x and Europe was kind of north of 1x. How do we think about sort of that regional dynamics on orders?

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

Yes. So with respect to the orders, to me, the main area to focus on right now is the Americas, and we sort of live in 2 worlds because we have the MGX distribution business, which, of course, they had inventory sitting on the ground that's pre-tariffs. So demand there was really good and business was good. On the other side, the I'll call it, legacy Americas portion of the business, which is much more dealer-oriented, that's where we're closely tracking what our orders are and what the challenges is.

Steven Michael Fisher

Analyst

Okay. And then just on the tariffs, it sounds like a lower overall impact, but I guess, lower units. I guess can you talk a little bit about the sort of the per unit tariff impact and kind of price versus cost dynamics you're expecting for both Q3 and Q4?

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

Yes. So it's -- we can't speak -- we're not going to speak about every single model, but every -- literally every single model varies depending on where the crane is coming from and where the parts are coming from. So that's quite the mix. And likewise, most of our competitors are either in Japan or Germany. So there's a lot to shake out in terms of the way that the tariffs flow through and then actually hit the customer.

Steven Michael Fisher

Analyst

Okay. And then just lastly for me on the U.S. market. Can you just talk about some of the puts and takes? I mean it seems like general message from the broad value chain we're hearing, public sector is still pretty good in terms of demand on the private side, still lots of structural investment in terms of data centers and various other projects. Are you seeing those areas of strength? And is that what's sort of just causing people to buy the units that are pre-tariff, but there's just not enough confidence in that demand going forward to kind of put new orders in without knowing really what kind of the pricing dynamics are going to be? Is that how to think about it?

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

The other element you have to consider is people managing their fleets. And so they can choose to wait and see where pricing ends up. And that's what we're really seeing is folks managing their day-to-day. In terms of actual activity, crane rental houses are busy and positive, and that all looks good. It's just there's so much uncertainty around what the price of a crane is going to be. And as I said on the call, if you got a machine, it's $2 million or $3 million and all of a sudden, it's 15%, and you were hoping it's going to be 5%. That's a pretty dramatic change in terms of expectations. So and then likewise in order to financially justify, you're going to have rental rates go up. So the market needs to play out in the next 6 months before we really get a good feel for where we land.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Mig Dobre with Baird.

Mircea Dobre

Analyst

So just to pick up where Steve sort of left it here with his questions. So what's interesting to me is that in the U.S. market, right, I mean, if you're talking about this uncertainty around pricing that is impacting customers, wouldn't that create an incentive for customers to actually order ahead of these price increases and try to be a little more proactive at securing whatever units they have at pre-tariff levels. To me, it would have seemed like Q2 would have been a quarter in which a bunch of that activity could have occurred so that people can actually lock in prices before you really kind of start making your adjustments as the year progresses?

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

Well, if you're shipping from Germany, I mean and instance like all-terrain cranes, everyone is -- from my point of view, I think customers were hoping that we would end up with even the 10% tariff, and now it's turned out to be 15%. So people were holding off there. And any time you're shipping something from that far away, that creates more reluctance and concern because you didn't really lock yourself into a price whenever you cut the deal.

Brian P. Regan

Analyst

Yes. And for the vast majority of our orders, they're going to include the price adjustment because we knew during the quarter that there was going to be some level of tariff.

Mircea Dobre

Analyst

Okay. So now we have 15% tariffs. What does that do for demand? Is that -- because your commentary is obviously more cautious than it was 3 months ago. Are these tariffs -- and within the framework that you provided, you're saying $35 million as opposed to something that was much larger previously. In terms of these offsets, first, I guess, how are you offsetting the tariffs? And then second, as the customers now know that there's a 15% tariff, does that imply that demand here is going to be curtailed for a prolonged period of time? Or do you think this is just a function of we need a near-term adjustment and eventually, they're going to digest that and we're back to the races in '26?

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

Yes. Well, I think there's 2 dynamics here. One is relative to dealer inventory and then one is relative to what the crane rental house is going to buy. So in terms of our dealers, I mean, they've hit the pause button and at a certain point, they're not going to have any inventory, and they're going to have to make some decisions. So from my point of view, this is probably -- I mean, I think it's 6 months to sort of sort out. I mean, even if I look at July, July was roughly the same as the previous 3 months. So folks are making the purchases that they need to make or have to make. And if they have any more flexibility in terms of timing, which most crane rental houses do, given the nature of cranes, they're being a little more cautious. But don't forget from a pricing standpoint, when you got the end at [ 150 ], there's room for folks to eat potentially their tariffs. We don't know exactly how that's going to play out in the long run.

Mircea Dobre

Analyst

But how are you offsetting these tariffs, the $35 million? You say you're going to mitigate it at 90%. How are you doing that?

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

Price increases.

Mircea Dobre

Analyst

You're doing that with price increases. Just mathematically, if I'm looking at your Americas revenue and I'm looking at the, call it, $30 million of incremental tariff headwind, that does not appear to be very significant. We're only talking like 2.5%. So I recognize that I'm basically spreading it across the entire business while only certain products are impacted here. But my question to you would be, does it make sense to spread the tariff impact across all your products and try to sort of like minimize the drag on demand? Or are you being sort of very targeted in saying, "Hey, this model is coming from Europe. We're going to put the full boat tariff pricing on this one as opposed to something that's manufactured domestically.

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

We're very targeted. You have to remember, we have to go through piles of HTS codes for every component that goes on to the local unit. So -- and we have to go unit by unit.

Brian P. Regan

Analyst

And remember, there's different tariffs. We talked about in Q1, you've got the reciprocal tariffs that are coming from whole goods that we produce in Europe that we're bringing to customers in the U.S. So there's that aspect of it. But then there's also tariffs like the steel tariffs that we're getting that is in our product. So how we're addressing it and the percentage of impact, obviously, the ones that are -- the reciprocal tariff is on -- it's going to be that 15% on those products. So the other stuff, we're it's less of a direct offset of the tariff. It's a price increase.

Mircea Dobre

Analyst

Okay. Yes, I guess lastly for me, and I don't know if this is a question, maybe it's a comment and you can comment back. When I'm looking at your updated tariff view, it's less bad than it was 3 months ago, yet your commentary is more cautious. There's a divergence here that I think is at least to me personally, a little bit surprising. So I guess I'll leave it at that.

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

I said on the last call that I was -- I'm always nervous about price elasticity in the crane business. And that's what we're seeing right now is folks are hitting the brakes because the tariffs are 15% on the reciprocal. But of course, we have all the 232 and 301s that are impacting our locally produced stuff. So from my point of view, it's -- yes, we're in the middle of the -- we're in the eye of the storm, and we're seeing exactly how folks are behaving. And on the last call, it was more of a sort of guess at that point because we didn't have enough data to know exactly how they would respond.

Brian P. Regan

Analyst

And when we gave the information last quarter, we said, hey, this is our expectation based on current demand. We don't know what it's going to do to demand. And we've seen impact on demand during Q2, which is going to impact our full year.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from Cliff Ransom with Ransom Research.

Clifford F. Ransom

Analyst

Thank you again for the opportunity to work with your folks in Italy. It was very instructive. Look, after 50 years around the damned lift business, the recovery from cycles and going into downstrokes is very difficult. Let me ask a 35,000-foot question. If you look back, say, 3 to 5 years at Manitowoc and the institution of the Manitowoc Way, what about lean thinking has enhanced your ability to respond to rapidly changing exterior events? What do you think has happened to your culture?

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

Yes. I think a big part of what we've done, if you look back historically, we were very, very vertically integrated. And so we didn't have the flexibility to go up or go down, quite frankly, very easily or fast. So we've done a lot of work on our supply chain in order to have more access to more parts to continue to move. So if we go up 10% or 20%, we can react way faster than we could have, say, 5 years ago or 10 years ago.

Clifford F. Ransom

Analyst

I was really thinking more about what happens internally. Maybe I'm asking a mindset question, which is too hard to answer. One of the things about Lean thinking is that the whole what's the right word? The whole review process is so disciplined. You tend to discover trends faster than companies that don't exercise that methodology. Am I barking up the wrong tree here? Or is that something real?

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

No, I think it's 100% real. And what we talk about a lot of times is the feedback from our customers is almost instant. We're in a lot of industry because we talk to the owners of the people that own the crane rental houses or the CEOs because everyone is so involved in their big purchases. So in terms of how we build our build schedules and start tack times and how they run the lines, I think getting that input, we get it pretty instantly. I mean, even this morning, I was getting feedback from customers. So I think that makes a big difference in terms of how we look out the next 6 months and how we see the dynamics play out.

Clifford F. Ransom

Analyst

Got it. And you talked about making adjustments in the second half of the year to, let's call it, protect cash flow. What specific things will you be doing?

Aaron H. Ravenscroft

Analyst

Yes. So we took down our build schedules at a couple of different locations. So at Shady Grove and Wilhelmshaven specifically. And it's just dependent on the product line relative. So what we do is we track our backlog, we track the orders, we track the trends and how much dealer inventory is out there, try to guess where we think demand will be 6 months from now. So based on where current rates are, we need to start to adjust our build schedules now to make sure that our supply chain doesn't get overwhelmed or overheated as we get into the back end of the year.

Clifford F. Ransom

Analyst

And I got cut off the call twice, but I got reconnected. When you talk about getting your net leverage down, did you, at some point, give us an estimate of free cash flow for the year?

Brian P. Regan

Analyst

Yes. Our free cash flow for the year is expected to be on the low end of our original range. So we're thinking in that $10 million to $15 million for the full year.

Clifford F. Ransom

Analyst

Okay. And what was your best expectation in the year for free cash flow? Investor Relations section of our website at manitowoc.com. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today and for your continued interest

Brian P. Regan

Analyst

When we gave our plan, I think it was $45 million.

Clifford F. Ransom

Analyst

Okay. I got it. That's fine. I remember that number. I have one last question, if I may. I just have to find it. No. That'll do it.

Operator

Operator

Ion M. Warner

Analyst

Thank you. Please note that a replay of our second quarter 2025 earnings call will be available later this morning by accessing the in The Manitowoc Company. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.