Glen E. Tellock
Management
Yes. I think it's a good question. But it's -- from where we sit, it's a pretty simple dynamic, and it really is the mix that you have between 2015 and '14. If you go back to the beginning of 2014, Mig, could go back and think of what you ended 2013, we got into 2014, people believing -- with the oil prices where they were, you started to see a lot of optimism in the market. And when you look at what we had, you had the RT business going, you had ConExpo coming up, you had a lot of the positives in the industry. And so it was -- almost across the board, the product lines that we had, pretty solid in the RTs, pretty solid in the boom-trucks, and it was a lot of the higher-capacity machines you had coming out of the AT business. And so when you put all that together and you get the absorption out of factories, you can drive the margins. And that's where -- we talked about the initiatives being implemented. What we had in 2013, as we talked to a lot of people, a lot of the manufacturing initiatives are going into what we had in Europe. And then in 2014, while you have those pickups, we also have a lot of the things that we're doing at Manitowoc and Shady Grove. So you see the combination of those, and we went through some of the reorganization of the businesses at the beginning of 2014. So I appreciate you look at it that way, but I think when you look at the positives that we've had in the business, especially throughout 2014 on the sourcing side and the manufacturing side in cranes, particularly, once we get back to Shady Grove and Manitowoc and Wilhelmshaven and the tower Cranes business picking back up, you can see what the impact that, that volumes have on our absorption. And that's why we continue to try to take costs -- fixed costs out of that business, and you heard Larry talking about agility. That's what it's all about, and that's why we continue to make those moves. And it's a little bit easier to do now when the markets are a little bit less robust than when they go up. So I think your comments are valid, but I think when you look at where we're at in the business, I think you see a different story.
Mircea Dobre - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Well, I can appreciate it. But it's just that I was under the understanding that mix has actually gotten better as you've seen some demand for crawlers, for towers and such. Maybe I understand it wrong, and maybe there's also more that you need to be doing perhaps in RTs in order to manage capacity there. Is that a fair point?