Jerry Jabbour
Chief Executive Officer
Sure. So letâs start with BioNTech, and obviously, you always anticipate that everyoneâs listening at all times. So the -- what Iâm not going to do is negotiate over the phone with our partners. So, as far as sort of framing out the positions of the parties, Iâll put it in the context of what you typically see in these delivery platform deals. And at the end of the day, BioNTech came to us, because we have something nobody else has. And there is obviously a lot of competition in IP, confusion in the lipid nanoparticle space, number one. And number two, from a technical perspective, our technology facilitates delivery in a way that none of these other technologies could ever imagine. So thatâs number one. What makes this relationship a little bit different is, the amount of competitive sensitivity that is going on now in the messenger RNA space and the potential to sort of lock out competition from an oral delivery of a messenger RNA in a way that does not generate an immune response, allows for repeat dosing and can completely change your cold chain, that desire to exclusively sort of wrap up our technology for an entire field. As I think, the biggest opportunity, itâs also I think, the biggest challenge for the parties to get their arms around typically in this area. Bert, as you know, what you see is youâll see licensed arrangements, which are based upon targets or product candidates. Weâre a little early for that, because most of what weâre doing on the research side with BioNTech is preclinical proof-of-concept. But that desire to maintain that competitive advantage is real and something thatâs of key interest to BioNTech. The challenge for us is how you value that. And even at an early stage, you have to be careful or anticipate just how large this opportunity could be. And so you design a number of different scenarios that would take into account both product candidates and exclusivity, and you try to find some magic formula where the parties ultimately feel comfortable, that what theyâre signing up for makes sense, both today and in the longer term. But thatâs where the spirit of the discussions and the level of the discussions become really important. And so as a smaller company whoâs approaching big pharma, what you want to have is you want to have visibility at the highest levels, you want to have an open dialogue and you want to be able to be supported by precedent. And I think thatâs whatâs happened over the last two years or three years, is you see the emerging importance of delivery, and deals between smaller companies and larger companies, and the value being attributed to a unique and differentiated delivery technology and weâve named some of those deals in the past. So I donât want to go through that. But we have time on our side. I mean, one of the advantages of having already -- have an ongoing relationship with BioNTech is that the science is not stopping. Thereâs no delay, while the parties figure out what the future looks like, in terms of advancing the platform and the delivery of messenger RNA and other nucleic acids. And we want the right deal, we want the right deal for our technology, we want the right deal, we obviously have a fiduciary obligation to our shareholders. We think the precedents there. Weâre confident that a deal is going to get done and itâs really about putting ourselves in position where we can maximize the opportunity be able to participate in a downstream way and incent BioNTech to create as many product candidates as we can. So that you do have an opportunity to have a meaningful commercial participation as they advance the field of messenger RNA. So I donât know that I can say more than that, but where -- we have a sense of urgency, so today. As we mentioned in our press release, the discussions are at an advanced stage, and hopefully, we get to a point in the near-term here when we have something meaningful that the market can digest and hopefully appreciate.