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Q1 2013 Earnings Call· Thu, May 2, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to our First Quarter 2013 Mettler-Toledo International Earnings Conference Call. My name is Jay, and I will be your audio coordinator for today. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn our presentation over to your hostess for today's call, Ms. Mary Finnegan. Please proceed, ma'am.

Mary T. Finnegan

Analyst

Thanks, Jay, and good evening, everyone. I am Mary Finnegan, I'm Treasurer and responsible for Investor Relations at Mettler-Toledo, and I'm happy to welcome you to the call. I am joined by Olivier Filliol, our CEO; and Bill Donnelly, our Chief Financial Officer. I want to cover just a couple of administrative matters before we begin. This call is being webcast and is available for replay on our website at www.mt.com. A copy of the press release and the presentation that we refer to on today's call is also available on our website. Let me summarize the Safe Harbor language, which is outlined on Page 1 of the presentation. Statements in this presentation, which are not historical facts, constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. Securities Act of 1933 and the U.S. Securities Exchange Act of 1934. These statements involve risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause our actual results, level of activity, performance or achievements to be materially different from those expressed or implied by any forward-looking statements. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please see the discussion in our Form 8-K. All of the forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by reference to the factors discussed under the captions Factors Affecting our Future Operating Results and in the Business and MD&A of Financial Condition and Results of Operations in our Form 10-K. One other item. On today's call, we may use non-GAAP financial measures. More detailed information with respect to the use of and differences between non-GAAP financial measures and the most directly comparable GAAP measures is provided in the Form 8-K. I will now turn the call over to Olivier.

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Thank you, Mary, and welcome, everyone to the call. I will start with a summary of the quarter and then Bill will provide details on our financial results and our updated guidance for 2013. I will then comment on current business conditions as well as update you on some of our strategic initiatives. As always, we will have time for Q&A at the end. The highlights for the quarter are on Page 2 of the presentation. Local currency sales declined 2% in the quarter, modestly below what we expected the last time we spoke. Europe and Americas came in pretty much on track with our expectations while market conditions in Asia and Rest of the World were more challenging than expected. In fact, order growth was better than sales growth overall and especially in China. However, we did not convert it to sales at the rate we hoped. I'm very pleased that despite the decline in sales in the quarter, we were able to strongly expand margins. Our cost actions initiated last year as well as our pricing and supply chain initiatives helps to contribute to this improvement. As a result of this good margin improvement, we were able to increase EPS by 11%. Uncertainty remains in the global economy, but we continue to believe that global market conditions will improve as the year progresses. We will have more to say on our outlook for 2013 in a few moments. But now let me turn it to Bill, to go over the financial results.

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · CLSA

Thanks, Olivier, and hello, everybody. Let me start with additional details on sales, which were $524.4 million in the quarter, a decrease of 2% in local currency. On a dollar basis, sales were also down 2% as we had no currency impact to sales during the quarter. Turning to Page 3 of the presentation, we outlined our sales by geography. In the quarter, local currency sales increased by 1% in the Americas, they decreased by 5% in Europe and 2% in Asia/Rest of World. On Slide #4 of the presentation, we outlined our sales by product area. In the quarter, industrial sales were flat with the prior year while lab sales decreased 2% and food retailing was down 9%. All of these amounts are local currency and organic. Turning to Slide #5 of the presentation, we show the P&L. Let me walk you through the key items. We're very pleased with the gross margins, which were 53.3% in the quarter, a 150 basis point improvement over the prior year. We benefit from pricing, from lower material cost and from an overall favorable mix. These benefits were somewhat offset by lower sales volume. R&D was $27.7 million, a 3% decline in local currency versus the prior year. SG&A was $166.1 million, a 1% decline in local currency as compared to the prior-year quarter. We benefited from our cost control measures, which were partially offset by higher variable compensation. Adjusted operating income amounted to $85.4 million, which represents a 6% increase over the prior-year amount of $80.8 million. We estimate that currencies reduced operating profit growth by approximately $1.3 million or about 1%. Nevertheless, our operating margins were 16.3%, an increase of 120 basis points over the prior year. We're very pleased with our operating income growth and the margin improvement, especially…

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Thanks, Bill. Let me start with summary comments on business conditions. Lab declined 2% in the quarter with declines recognized in most product lines and geographies. A couple of factors are going into these results. First, Europe continues to be impacted by the difficult economy. As a reminder, more than 50% of our lab business is non-life science related and it is this piece that is impacted most by the economic slowdown. Our laboratory business in the U.S. particularly at the lower end, was impacted by the start up of our logistics hub on Blue Ocean as Bill mentioned. Finally, Asia had an excellent quarter in lab in the first quarter of last year as local currency sales were up more than 20%, so they had challenging comparisons. Turning now to industrial, which was flat in the quarter, with Product Inspection up very solid mid-single digits while Core Industrial was down. Core Industrial was down in all 3 regions, reflecting the late cycle nature of our business. Retail was down 9% in the quarter. Now let me make some additional comments by geography. Europe was down 5% in the quarter, maybe slightly lower than we had expected as retail was down almost 20% in the quarter. Lab and industrial were down modestly in Europe. Americas was up 1% in the quarter, on track with what we expected. Product Inspection did very well in the Americas. We had modest decline in Lab while the retail was down mid-single digits. Finally, Asia/Rest of World was down 2% in the quarter, with strong growth in retail offset by modest declines in Lab and Industrial. That covers my comments on current market conditions. Let me now update you on a couple of strategic initiatives, starting with our strategy of expanding our product offering for…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Paul Knight with CLSA.

Bryan Kipp

Analyst · CLSA

This I actually Bryan Kipp on behalf of Paul. I just wondered -- you guys alluded to April being the strongest month you've seen this year. Can you guys give a little more color on that, in geographic, where the strengths were and maybe even the product mix?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · CLSA

So it was a strong month, the best of the year. We experienced growth in pretty much all parts of the world. We had even better order growth than sales growth in the month. U.S. was strong. Europe was -- and hey, when I say strong, I mean, vis-a-vis year-to-date trends. Order growth was strong in China. Sales growth less so, a little bit, we're continuing to see some of this order conversion topics in China partly related to some of the orders were larger jobs, so they weren't quickly shipped out. But also we're putting a little bit more emphasis on credit controls down in China. And so we're -- we're the opposite maybe in a way of channel stuffing really keeping an eye on how much inventory is in the system. But in terms of product categories, because of the -- I'm not sure I've seen all the details on that because April just finished, but probably the Lab, in particular, was one that's on accelerating trend. Because China is still weighted towards industrial, I assume, the Industrial sales numbers will be a little bit weaker than the Lab.

Bryan Kipp

Analyst · CLSA

And I guess just another follow-up. You cited the margin improvement for pricing, lower material cost and a better mix. Are these -- the lower material cost and the better product mix something you expect going forward or you think there could be some headwinds going there?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · CLSA

I think we're going to continue to have gross margin expansions throughout the year. You guys will remember though if you look at our progression to gross profit margins last year, we had quite good gross profit margin expansions in the second half of the year. So I think in terms of comparison point of view, it won't be as much expansion. But I think you can assume another 75 up to maybe even 100 bps in Q2 as well.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Isaac Ro with Goldman Sachs.

Joel Kaufman - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

This is actually Joel in for Isaac. Just on your comments on your entry-level products that you guys are looking to expand, you've made some comments on those projects reaching your margin targets. Just wondering how that compares to the total company gross margins. Should those supposed to be a drag or a benefit to gross margins?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

I actually expect for both new products that it would be similar to what we experienced in Lab overall. It's -- that's why I was referring to that we actually developed but also produced this product in China. We -- with that, we actually make sure that we have a cost effective structure, which would allow us also then to have this lower price point. And then I was also having this -- that I was talking about this non-visiting customer approach that we have to sell the product. Of course, this is also a way for us to keep the sales cost down. And then on the service side, we try to have a more self-service aspect that go with it that also allow us to maintain good margins on the product. So overall, I do not expect that this lower end product lines will change something to our average margins than we have in the Lab business.

Joel Kaufman - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Great. And then just one on China. I mean, you made some comments on some credit tightening. I was just wondering what specifically is giving you guys confidence that those trends should buck in the back half of the year?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

So in terms of the credit tightening comment, that mostly relates to more comment about order entry conversion, that maybe that's translating to us, waiting a little bit more for, depending on the product category, either advanced payments or payments, like, from distributors on open account. Once we're on a more stabilized position there, then you're -- then the sales growth will be more in line with the order growth. So we expect that to happen in the course of the second quarter. In the second quarter still, we would expect, overall, the order growth to exceed the sales growth. In fact, I think sales growth could continue to be flattish, maybe even a modest decline. But based on what we see in April year-to-date, I'd be surprised if we didn't finish with mid- to high-single-digit order growth in the first half for the full -- for the first half of the year. And then we'd likely turn to growth rates in sales more in line with that order growth rate in the second half of the year.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Steve Willoughby with Cleveland Research.

Steve Willoughby - Cleveland Research Company

Analyst · Cleveland Research

On the new lower-end products, maybe I missed it, but wondering -- are these products launched already or when will you be launching those products? And then if you could just talk about the competitive environment for those types of products.

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Cleveland Research

Actually, both products were launched. The Titration EasyPlus was really launched in the last few days, weeks, as the New Classic ME was launched already at the beginning of the year. And as always, the global rollouts, not all the markets launched at exactly at the same time. But in general, the big markets have launched and we have also received already the first customer feedbacks that are really very promising and very happy. In terms of competition, that's a little bit the nature of this entry-level markets. There, we are facing the nontypical competitors. They are sometimes local, I guess, competitors that try to enter our market, like in China, you would start to see kind of local companies trying to get into titration market because they wouldn't have really the technology to compete in the mid-tier. So we are facing different competitors there. It's definitely more fragmented. And that's actually why we want to be there. I think the benefit of us also being in that market is we set quality standards then also in the entry line markets that are very difficult for competitors then to meet. And that's, in that sense also, a strategic move why we have this product because it prevents actually local competitors to establish themselves in the market. So it's -- yes, I think, as mentioned, fragmented more local ones, and in essence, different than what we face typically in the mid and high-end.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Derik De Bruin with Bank of America.

Derik De Bruin - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst · Bank of America

So just sort of big picture question. So how much -- I guess how much is FX overall a drag on the earnings for the full year?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Bank of America

In terms of earnings per share, it's about $0.10 per share or about 1% in terms of the growth rate.

Derik De Bruin - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst · Bank of America

Got you. Okay. And I guess -- if you were sort of doing a 5% organic revenue growth number of the company, I guess what would be the incremental margin that you're getting? What I'm basically trying to say, if we sort of think about 20 -- I'm trying to look at the future as we think about a more normalized EPS growth rate and we start looking at the future if we're thinking about mids -- back to some mid-single digits, currency has been neutral, I'm just trying to get a leverage number, of course out of the growth number.

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Bank of America

So of course, we're currently benefiting, Derik, from the efforts we did on the restructuring side in the middle of last year. So that's making our incremental margins look quite high. I think on a normalized basis to '14 and beyond, we think we'll run -- if we're growing mid-single digits or better, we should be growing or having incremental margins of better than 30%.

Derik De Bruin - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst · Bank of America

Great. And I guess can you talk about was there any sort of unusual timing, any events in the quarter, did your -- any particular markets slow down dramatically towards the end of the quarter, was it pretty just choppy throughout the quarter? Was there anything unusual, orders delayed at the very last moment? I'm just trying to get a sense for were the people seemed surprised where -- that things are happening?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Bank of America

I don't really think so. I think maybe, hey, I think as implied with some of what we've written in the script, we're a little surprised that the order conversion -- the order entry conversion to sales was a little bit slower than we expected. There were a couple of things that we could, like hit ourselves in the head and say, hey, of course, Easter in Europe and we had already thought about the Chinese new year, January versus February, but it did seem to come out a little slower. And maybe the closest thing to a surprise would be we're probably having more discussions internally on this just keeping the receivables in check in China. But I think Olivier and I, if you asked us 3 months ago, you got a grow order entry 2% in the first quarter, you got to feel like you're on track and we would say very much so. And I think that the recent trends in order entry in China would probably be in line with what we would've said earlier on how things should track in China. I think it is going to take sometime if we look at Q2, I think we'll see, one more soft quarter of sales growth. But I think orders look to be off to a to a good start in China. So I think we should do okay there. And that will mean a return to decent growth in the second half there.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Jon Groberg with Macquarie.

Jonathan P. Groberg - Macquarie Research

Analyst · Macquarie

I don't know any other company that has grown their earnings 11% on a minus 2% local currency growth, so that's something to be commended for and we stand a little bit in awe of. So I guess I'm curious on some of the trends as Europe, may be some customers mentioned Europe was extremely weak and -- I'm sorry, it's competitors, that Europe was extremely weak in the quarter. Maybe just digging in, in terms of like different businesses in Europe and what your outlook is for the rest of the year there?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Macquarie

Let me take it a little bit overall and then Bill can certainly comment specifically by business. European end markets continue to be uncertain as we talked about it also on the last quarter call. But I would definitely see that conditions don't get worse. Sales in Europe in the quarter came in as expected, except food retailing that was weaker. If I look overall by the different countries, most countries actually were down in the quarter with the exception of the U.K., which was modestly up. But we had this phenomena that Bill was talking about before that order growth was positive actually in the quarter, which indicates that we are seeing some improvements. We expect to see some modest growth in sales in the second half. Often that context, as a reminder, our business in Europe is really primarily a replacement business. Customers can and do defer purchases. But at some point, purchases cannot be further delayed and they will start to buy again. So this is certainly something that we are seeing happening and that's also the reason why we see things gradually improve for us in Europe, even when you read the newspapers, you wouldn't really feel that way. But for us, it looks actually better and this is, certainly, also confirmed when I talked to the different general managers in Europe. They are starting to express some confidence that things are really starting to get better. Now Bill, you might want to comment a little bit more by business line?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Macquarie

So again, order entry trend was better overall than sales growth, and that, that continued in Europe in the month of April. If I look at it in business area, the lab business did better than the Industrial business. And I would expect that same trend to kind of continue in the second quarter. In terms of maybe specific countries, I think we see somehow some of the impact of easier or -- yes, easier comps. I think the only country that looks year-to-date to kind of jump out in a good way is the U.K. But for us, it's a small market and I wouldn't read in too much into it. But we, in the first quarter and second quarter, we did pretty well in the U.K.

Jonathan P. Groberg - Macquarie Research

Analyst · Macquarie

And just to be clear, were orders in Europe, overall, actually positive or just greater than yourselves?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Macquarie

Order growth in the quarter was positive.

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Macquarie

Both -- positive 1% and a little bit better than that in the month of April.

Jonathan P. Groberg - Macquarie Research

Analyst · Macquarie

Okay. And then I guess just going back to the issue in China, I understand you -- sounds like the quarter from a revenue standpoint was slightly weaker but, overall, wasn't too different than what you had planned. I know you planned order growth to be higher than revenue growth in particular in China. But is there anything worrying going on there? I'm just trying to think what is the reason for there being more difficulty in terms of people either getting current or being able to make the payments in order for you to ship the products that they need?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Macquarie

Let me maybe start again with some overall comments on the Chinese market. And I'm giving maybe first a little bit midterm perspective and then coming back to the short term. If I look, we have really built, overall, this year a very strong position in China. I definitely expect to continue to enjoy strong growth for many years. Our business in China is more weighted to the industrial sector as compared to the overall global business. But we expect to gradually migrate our Chinese business to the global mix over time. And so Lab business and Product Inspection will enjoy faster growth. This all is also supported by the midterm growth drivers that we see for China. Topics like overall manufacturing, GDP growth, urbanization and infrastructure at the top of the government, increasing GDP per capita growth. The government's effort to support science and one thing that we always talk about, the incredible number of scientists graduating every year and joining the workforce. And finally, this increasing effort to focus on quality as well as regulation, as well as topics like food safety that are really important driving forces for our business. So the midterm looks actually unchanged very favorable for us. For -- kind of, if I come to the short-term topic here, we expect that the sales trend will improve in the second half. We don't view the current market as robust. Infrastructure spend has been slower to develop than expected. We see less new planned developments, and we also see some tightening of the overall liquidity in the customer base as we were referring before. So the bottom line is that we expect China to improve but we do not see strong growth on the short-term horizon. However, we feel definitely positive about the medium-term for the reasons I've just outlined above.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Ross Muken of ISI.

Vijay Kumar - ISI Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · ISI

This is Vijay in for Ross. Maybe Olivier, I just wanted to get back to the guidance commentary in acceleration of revenues from the back half. When you look at sort of this back half ramp, what do you see are the confidence or what are some of the variables which could swing? What are you sort of looking at? What are the swing factors?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · ISI

Yes, so we were just talking about order entry being stronger than sales, and with that, our backlog are building up. Then we clearly have also previous year comparisons, topic that will become more reasonable for us going forward in different markets. And then we have also kind of early indicators that continue to give us confidence that things will develop as we're expecting already earlier this year that we always felt that the second quarter will be stronger, we can -- we see supporting indicators in terms lead generation quote activities and the general feedback that we get from our salespeople. So these are all factors that support our view that things will improve. And I would say the April numbers kind of just gives us an additional data point on that -- on this.

Vijay Kumar - ISI Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · ISI

I guess I was more of trying to get it, if you look at some of the variables and the number of moving parts, are there any, maybe, particular subsegment within your geographies, which you are concerned or that you would be monitoring more closely, I guess?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · ISI

New ones -- no, actually not particular. I'm just thinking about -- not particular --

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · ISI

I think the one, kind of reiterating something we said in our response to a question from Derick, I think so far the year's playing out in terms of order entry very much as we would've expected and at that time we made that one comment, maybe the one thing that's a little bit different than 3 months ago is we're probably looking at this Chinese credit topic a little bit more closely than we did. But other than that, I can't point to a product category or a geography that's requiring additional attention than maybe what we would've told you guys 3 months ago.

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · ISI

And I was mentioning on the call -- earlier on the call that food retailing came in, for example, a little bit lower than expected. But I don't think that this will be the case for the full year. I think this was more of a Q1 phenomena than for the full year.

Vijay Kumar - ISI Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · ISI

And maybe, Bill, one coming your way. Balance sheet looks very, very healthy. Can you talk what's some of the flexibility you have in terms of balance sheet -- using your balance sheet capabilities, especially if this macro were to take a turn towards the downside?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · ISI

Well, I think -- I want to reinforce what you said. I think we believe we have a very healthy balance sheet. We have a low net debt-to-EBITDA ratio. We're not in a position where we have a lot of cash trapped overseas. In fact, we have no real cash trapped overseas. We generate good cash flow. We're going to have another year of good cash flow this year. We're -- you can assume that we'll continue to repurchase shares equal to our free cash flow plus our estimated option proceeds and that within that balance sheet. We have room to, on top of that, do the type of bolt-on acquisitions that we've done in the past, not that the pipeline right now has anything unusual on it but there's certainly room to do the normal Mettler-sized bolt-ons.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Next we have a question from Richard Eastman with Robert W. Baird. Richard C. Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Bill, could you just talk to -- just give us what -- what did sales actually do in China year-over-year in the first quarter? And did that -- what's the difference between the Lab business and the Industrial in terms of how it performed from a sales perspective?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Robert W

Okay. So sales declined by 1%. The lab business did actually a little bit worse than the industrial business on the sales side, that compares to a -- just a reminder, we grew 31% in Lab in Q1 a year ago. Actually, I can tell you that our Lab business had order entry growth in the 20% range in the first quarter. And so I think that's more of a timing topic.

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Robert W

But if I recall well, China last year was a plus 16% for the whole of China.

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Robert W

For the whole of China last year and Lab was plus 30%.

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Robert W

Exactly. So we had actually Q1 was the strongest quarter in the year for China and, therefore, it was still a very good quarter last year. Richard C. Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Okay, okay. And then the other question just when we talked about the geographies, maybe we missed a little bit in China when it came to sales for the reasons you've mentioned. But when you think about the product area with the slight miss from the earlier guidance in terms of local currency, is that -- would that all be food retail or which of the product categories maybe slightly missed plan from a sales perspective in the quarter?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Robert W

Food retail was a significant part. I would say most of the other category except within Industrial, the Product Inspection did actually well.

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Robert W

Product Inspection a little bit more. Lab, probably on the orders about what we expected but a little bit worse on the sales side. And then of course, the China piece. Richard C. Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Okay. And then Bill, you had mentioned that when you talked about the gross profit margin, you had mentioned that the mix was favorable. And I'm -- I'm kind of looking at the Lab declining more than Industrial. What mix are we talking about that actually helped the gross margin? Is it service?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Robert W

It's more a comment on geography and the mix of products we sold and, in particular, on the industrial side, we didn't have a lot of big project business flowing through. I think if you go back to your notes a year ago, Rick, you'll remember that we had a lot of Chinese projects kind of being flushed through the system in a low-margin. And we're a little surprised on the downside Q1 a year ago. Richard C. Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Okay --

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Robert W

So I would say it's less a mix from like this quarter versus last quarter and more this quarter versus the year-ago quarter. Richard C. Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Okay. And how did the service business do in the quarter? Did that grow year-over-year?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Robert W

Actually, it was a good quarter. We had a 6% growth. Very, very happy how that could go. Richard C. Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: So that would've also helped your gross margin as well?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Robert W

Yes. It was actually good growth across all the regions, which is worth to highlight, including actually also in Asia Pacific emerging markets.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Jason Rodgers with Great Lakes Review.

Jason A. Rodgers - Great Lakes Review

Analyst · Great Lakes Review

Looking at the gross margin, could you break out the basis point benefit from the pricing, the lower material costs and the mix for the quarter?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Great Lakes Review

Okay. So the price increases benefited -- benefited us by more than 100 basis points, kind of in that 100 to 125 basis points range. Material costs in that 40 to 50 basis point range. And then what was left over is kind of mix and other.

Jason A. Rodgers - Great Lakes Review

Analyst · Great Lakes Review

And what's the current expectation for the pricing benefit for the full year?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Great Lakes Review

I would assume that the pricing for the full-year will be kind of in a similar range to this. As a reminder, we did some midyear price increases last year. So it will get a little bit tighter in the second half of the year. But I think there's some good programs going on in the pricing side that will hopefully lead to some lower discounting and a couple of other topics. So I don't expect a meaningful change down, but maybe a little bit down in the second half versus what you saw.

Jason A. Rodgers - Great Lakes Review

Analyst · Great Lakes Review

All right. And then finally, if you could indicate the number of shares that you repurchased in the quarter as well as your CapEx forecast for the full year?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Great Lakes Review

Okay. So we repurchased 341,109 shares during the quarter. And in terms of our CapEx forecast for the full year, you can assume something around $90 million.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from [indiscernible] with [indiscernible].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I have a quick one. With regards to the order entry conversion from order entry to sales, would you educate me on how that process works and what's the typical delay time from order entry to realizing sales?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · CLSA

Yes. So, hey, maybe just kind of stepping back. Generally, Mettler has a short cycle business. But you can imagine we have everything from pipettes that when we get the order, we ship them out the next day to bigger ticket items that need to be engineered to order to customer specifications, which could take, let's say, anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 weeks depending on the product. And then finally, we sometimes receive orders for big projects. Maybe I give an example in the retail store area where they might be expecting us to deliver to a series of different stores over a 6-month period. So each of the different business lines has different order conversion factors. But generally speaking, Mettler, if you look back over time, there's usually not much of a disconnect between the order entry and sales growth in a period of time because we just, generally, most of the sales are actually relatively short cycle items. And we frankly, don't get many really big orders that can make that look odd. What we experienced this quarter was for a variety of factors and I could go through maybe, just one more time, go through them kind of by region. We -- in China, we had a couple of impacts. One is kind of coming out of the February Chinese New Year. The orders just came in a little bit later in the quarter. And so there was some delay and push into April. But probably even a bigger impact is that China includes more projects, more to long engineered to order products, and then we had some of these credit hold topics that we talked to at several points during the call. In the Americas, we started up on our new Blue Ocean system, our U.S. hub. And so there was some delays in terms of order shipments at the end of the quarter. But as I mentioned, we've caught that backup now in the month of April. And then finally, in Europe, we had a little bit of a timing topic with the way Easter fell being right there at the end of the month of March and Easter tends to have a bigger impact on working days in Europe that you would typically see in the U.S. So this reference to order conversion is almost a way to explain how we would have some differences between our order rate -- our order growth and our sales growth.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

That's very helpful. So just a quick follow-up. Are these orders, firm orders, so in another word, can a customer change their mind and cancel the order before the product are -- before the products are shipped?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · CLSA

Hey, the short answer is that, like with most customers, we, of course, would offer them that opportunity as long as we don't work on it. In the case of anything that's engineered to order, we are typically getting deposits in advance. So it would be normal that the customer would have paid us some money to do a custom product. Do customers cancel? It happens but, to be honest, it's a very small percentage. I would struggle to -- every year, we lose a few orders for different factors after they've been accepted. But it's a really small number and just to give you a feeling, I -- I'd be surprised that the number was 1% in the course of the year.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Steve Willoughby with Cleveland Research.

Steve Willoughby - Cleveland Research Company

Analyst · Cleveland Research

I was just wondering if you could maybe explain a little bit more of what you're -- what's going on as it relates to the China credit issue. I guess I don't really understand what you're seeing in terms of -- is it just that you're concerned about customers paying you or I guess if you could just maybe elaborate a little bit more on that.

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Cleveland Research

Hey, it's just -- we just see slower payments coming from customers. And so I've not experienced as much where we're putting -- we're not shipping orders waiting for -- depending, again, if it's an engineered order products, we might be waiting for the deposits or in the case of dealers and distributors, we can, in many cases, be just saying, "Hey, we'll ship it to you as soon as you pay your unpaid balances." And we just saw a little bit more of that. I'm not reading too much into it. I just think it as much reflects we think in a place like China with such a fragmented customer base and many start up companies as you know in that part of the world that it's good if we're disciplined on the credit side. And we felt it necessary to be so. As you guys know, it's not -- in the industrial side of the business I think, China is going through some slowdown in our growth rates and probably there's parts of the customer base that is feeling that.

Steve Willoughby - Cleveland Research Company

Analyst · Cleveland Research

Okay. And if I heard you correctly, you said your order growth was up 20%. I think that was in China in April. Was that right?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · Cleveland Research

No. Our -- the comment was in the context of our Lab business, where, I think it was Rick who was asking about Lab sales growth in the quarter. And I just pointed -- Lab was down slightly. It was actually the order entry growth though in Lab was much better, it was a number in the 15% to 20% range. I think it was 20%. And that was the only thing I was commenting on. So that was first quarter Lab order entry growth. And sorry, China, not the whole Lab division, yes. Just China. Yes.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Tycho Peterson with JPMorgan. Tycho W. Peterson - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Just I guess a question on the cost saving actions that you've talked about previously. Can you just talk about how we should think about those flowing through for the next couple of quarters?

William P. Donnelly

Analyst · JPMorgan

Sure. Kind of pulling out my schedule here, Tycho. Hey, we should be -- we should have incremental savings over the last year for the programs we started implementing in the second half of around $15 million, okay? And the -- as you might remember, those should be largely offset over the course of the full-year by the fact that we're also going to have higher incentive comp just to get back to budgeted levels of incentive comp. And I think that's not a new thing. That's something we've talked about in the past. Tycho W. Peterson - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Okay. And then on the -- on the margin side, as we think about your gross margin strategy, can you just talk a little bit about, with about a 30-year business manufactured in China, how you're thinking about the cost dynamic there? Do you have to look a little bit more optimistically at second-tier cities or even countries outside of China for labor reasons?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · JPMorgan

Hey, this is something we continuously monitor. However, the way we look at it is why we see wage increases, we have, every year, very significant productivity gains also. We have lean manufacturing initiatives. We have the teams that are looking at automations. And of course, our own quality managers are helping here us to increase the competitiveness of our own Chinese manufacturing facilities. So we clearly offset the wage inflation and we are not concerned that we've -- that this is going to negatively impact our margins. I would say in contrary, I'm very pleased about the progress that I have seen. We are moving to the West also in terms of manufacturing in China. But I would say this is mainly to serve the west of China in a better way. So when we talk, for example, about vehicle scales, transport is an issue and distance. And we are in the progress of building a manufacturing capacity in the Chengdu area exactly for that reason. But it's -- we don't have, currently, specific plans that we would also produce in Chengdu for global exports just to benefit from the labor cost arbitrage or so. And with that context, there's also no plans to go into new countries like Vietnam or other low-cost countries for manufacturing. Having a good supply chain base, in particular, related to suppliers and having a good outbound logistics is very important to us. And in that sense, China is a very good manufacturing base for us. We have also a very good team and we have also R&D capability that we can leverage. So all in all, I think we have a good position also in the long term even if wage increases would go on in China. Tycho W. Peterson - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Okay. And then last one. Food retail was down of a fairly easy comp. I mean can you just talk a little bit about your visibility for that business going forward and are there things that, maybe, strategically you need to do to try to improve the trajectory?

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · JPMorgan

Yes, for a couple of years now, we have always said that our priority for the food retail business is to maintain profitability and not to focus on growth. We participate in a more selective way in the market. We are just kind of more of -- we are disciplined when it comes to large tenders, large projects but also when we look at geographic penetrations, we are selective there. So the way I am monitoring this business is less on the top line and more at the bottom line. Of course, when we have a sales drop like we experienced in Q1, it has an impact also on the bottom line. But we have been working on cost measures now for many quarters in the food retail business, we have taken multiple measures and these are good measures, and I feel that this is supporting our strategy here that we have with food retail. As also stated earlier in the call, while Q1 was below expectations of food retailing, I feel like for the full year, it should remain as expected more or less as much as we have visibility at this point. And I want -- you hinted us about the fundamental strategic thinking behind food retail. Here, I would say food retail, while it has a below group average profitability, when I look at it from a marginal contribution, it is actually still attractive and remains attractive because we have a significant cost sharing when it comes to the different producing units because at the producing units, we produce not just food retail products, but also Auto products. We have synergies in purchasing, we have synergies in engineering and, of course, we have also synergies in the front end when it comes to service and the overall support infrastructure that you need in a country. So all in all, even if food retail is a more challenging business compared to the Auto business lines that we have, we are committed to it because it has a good marginal contribution.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I turn the call back to the presenters.

Mary T. Finnegan

Analyst

Thank you, Jay, and thanks everyone for joining us this evening. Hey, just as a quick reminder, we will have an investor meeting at our Baltimore Automated Chemistry business on Friday, July 26. And in the coming weeks, we'll provide more information but just wanted to give you another reminder. Of course, if you guys have any questions, please don't hesitate to give us a call. Have a good evening, everyone. Bye.

Olivier A. Filliol

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.