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MSA Safety Incorporated (MSA)

Q1 2014 Earnings Call· Wed, Apr 23, 2014

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Executives

Management

Ken Krause - Executive Director of Global Finance Bill Lambert - President and CEO Stacy McMahan - SVP and CFO Nish Vartanian - President of MSA North America

Analyst

Management

Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird Walter Liptak - Global Hunter

Operator

Operator

Good morning. Welcome to the MSA First Quarter Earnings Call. My name is John and I will be your operator for today’s call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Please note that the conference is being recorded. And now I’ll turn the call over to Ken Krause. Ken, you may begin.

Ken Krause

Management

Thank you, John. Good morning everyone and welcome to our First Quarter conference call for 2014. I am Ken Krause, Executive Director of Global Finance and joining me on the call this morning are Bill Lambert, President and Chief Executive Officer; Stacy McMahan, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Ron Herring, President of the MSA Europe; Kerry Bove, President of MSA International; and Nish Vartanian, President of MSA North America. Our first quarter press release was issued last night and is available on our website at www.msasafety.com. This morning, Bill Lambert will provide his commentary on our quarter. Stacy will then review our financials and then Bill will conclude with his closing comments. After that, we will open up the call for your questions. Before we begin, I need to remind everyone that the matters discussed on this call, excluding historical information, are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements, including without limitation, all projections and anticipated levels of future performance, involve risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those discussed here. These risks, uncertainties and other factors are detailed from time to time in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recent Form 10-K which was filed on February 24th, 2014. You're strongly urged to review all such filings for a more detailed discussion of such risks. Our SEC filings can be obtained at no charge at www.sec.gov, our own website and many other commercial sites. In addition, we have included certain non-GAAP financial measures as part of our discussion today. These non-GAAP financial measures should not be considered replacements for GAAP results. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP statements are included in our press release and on the Investor Relation section of our website. With that, let me introduce MSA’s President and Chief Executive Officer, Bill Lambert.

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Thank you Ken and good morning everyone. As always, I want to begin by saying thank you for joining us today on this conference call and for your continued interest in MSA. Your support is something we never take for granted. Presumably all of you have seen our first quarter press release and have our financial figures with all comparisons corresponding to the equivalent period in 2013. I’ll begin this morning by reviewing the highlights of our first quarter results and I will update you on the issues surrounding the U.S. fire service market. I also will share further details about some important cooperate initiatives we executed in the quarter. And briefly expound on our upcoming Investor Day event. After that, I will turn the call over to Stacy for a review of our actual Q1 results, then we’ll open it up for your questions. While we had a number of a bright spots in the quarter, our overall financial results reflected challenging business conditions across several geographies as well as the continuing regulatory delays affecting new product approvals in our SCBA business. Despite these headwinds we continue to successfully execute the pillars of our strategy responsible for ongoing value enhancement. As disclosed in our fourth quarter earnings release, we are in the midst of divesting our South African distribution business and our Zambian operations, which were previously reported in the international segment of our business. First quarter revenue of $265 million as reported on our press release, financial statements and discussed on this call today reflects continuing operations only and excludes $10 million of discontinued operations. Accordingly, my comments today exclude the impact of discontinued operations in all figures and in all comparisons. Sales from continuing operations of $265 million reflect a 2% decline from 2013. However, when you…

Stacy McMahan

CFO

Thank you Bill and good morning everyone. I will now share further insight into our first quarter financial performance. Additional information will be available when we file our Form 10-Q with the Securities and Exchange Commission later today. As Bill mentioned, sales of continuing operations in the first quarter were $265 million, down $5 million or 2% from the prior year on an as reported basis, but flat with the prior year in local currency terms with stronger growth in head protection and portable gas detection offset by lower level of self-contained breathing apparatus sales primarily in the United States. Order activity remained healthy during the quarter and backlog is up nearly 20% from the end of the year. About two thirds of this increase is associated with a large ballistic helmet order from the French military that will not ship until the end of this year and the beginning of next year. We saw an uptick in backlog in North America, Latin America, in Asia and throughout emerging Europe at the end of the quarter as the order pace picked up. Backlog growth was demand driven with no issues in our supply chain. We have streamlined our detailed discussion on sales and will comment on two views of our sales performance, by geographic reporting segment and then by product group. When we consider our sales by product in the quarter, local currency sales in our combined five core product groups were relatively flat as represented 73% of sales, to strong results in portable instruments up 12%, head protection up 6% and fixed gas and flame detection up 3% were largely offset by weakness in breathing apparatus and fall protection products. A strong turnaround season in the U.S. oil gas and petrochemical market boosted sales of portable gas detection and…

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Stacy. As you can see, despite challenges associated with the SCBA market, other key end markets such as the oil, gas and petrochemical industry grow solid performance in a number of core product lines for us. We also continue to improve the profitability of our business as our strong and increasing gross profit performance reflects the value that our customers [indiscernible] our products, as well as an organization like dedication, to lowering costs through operational excellence. Difficult business conditions and other challenging exogenous factors cannot obscure the health of our business. I believe our strategy is sound and is being validated by the market. I also believe MSA setbacks in the North American fire service are merely temporary and will work their way out over the coming quarters. I want to assure, our shareholders we are attuned to the balance necessary to drive near term performance while simultaneously making the right investments in innovation, product enhancements, capital and equipment, employee development and technologies that enhance our customers' experience. It is our commitment to these investments that we believe will sustain growth and value creation over the long term for MSA and for our shareholders. Thank you for your attention this morning. At this time, our three geographic Presidents, Nish Vartanian, Ron Herring and Kerry Bove have joined, Stacy McMahan and me. And we are happy to take any questions that you might have. Please remember that MSA does not give what is referred to as guidance and that precludes most discussion related to our expectations or future sales and earnings. Having said that, we will now open the call to your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you (Operator Instructions). And our first question's from Edward Marshall from Sidoti & Company. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: So I wanted to ask, if I could first on the revenue side. If we look at, and I know you gave SCBA down 22% but I know that’s not all of your fire service sales. Can you tell me what U.S. fire service sales was on a year-over-year basis or if you have the absolute number that be helpful?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Stacy do you have that absolute number, I don’t have that here. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: You want to move on while we take that out?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

[Multiple Speakers]

Stacy McMahan

CFO

We'll look at that for you, Ed. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: Okay. Okay. Then if I look at the standout in the quarter, the SG&A and I was curious I know Stacy gave some commentary surrounding it, but I was curious if this was related to maybe some of the timing of compensation like it was last year’s first quarter, Were there any costs for realignment in that number and was there anything else related to maybe the G1 marketing efforts as we move forward and kind of what’s temporary and maybe what’s kind of the go forward look on SG&A not asking for guidance.

Stacy McMahan

CFO

Yes, I understand, the more temporary things were the things that I outlined in my script which was essentially that we had a $2 million of professional service costs associated with the work that we did on our corporate reorganization as well as the centennial branding and marketing efforts that we have going forward and some work that we’re doing actually on our corporate strategy. Then we have $1 million of investment that was non-restructuring in your 2.0, as we invest in the infrastructure for the organization in Europe going forward. So those sorts of things would not repeat. I think that probably answers the question that they were the, oh I am sorry the stock compensation expense. We’re in sort of a -- for the foreseeable future a pattern where Q1 expense will have a majority part of our stock comp recognized given the demographics. Recipients of this in this equity program, so you will see a Q1 level that is elevated versus the remainder of the year, for our foreseeable future until our demographics change, so that’s why it’s very consistent with the prior year. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: So there’s some seasonality in that SG&A that’s going to be recurring on an annual basis.

Stacy McMahan

CFO

Yes, that’s correct. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: And as we move forward to I mean, the one comment I guess I'd have on the quarter, there’s been some very -- most of the highest gross margin that I’ve seen in the business since at least we picked up coverage and it seems to me as you pair down some of that SG&A expense, throughout the remainder of the year, you see some additional leverage assuming sales comes back. I guess a portion of its removing that 23% gross margin peripherals business and the distribution in South Africa and Zambia. Is there other kind of low hanging fruit that you can kind of target and look at and maybe in this gross margin range that can actually enhance the margin as we go forward from a gross margin perspective.

Stacy McMahan

CFO

Well, as has been the case in our recent history, the mix is a huge impact. So our core products are hot, are more favorable in margin and as we continue to sell core products and even within the core products, the mix within core products in this quarter where you had a very strong performance of portable instruments and head protection, actually was favorable as the self-contained breathing apparatus is a slightly lower margin in the mix even though its core. So that gave it some lift in the quarter and that’s the highest contributor to margin improvement. The other thing to see… Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: I am sorry.

Stacy McMahan

CFO

I’m sorry, the other thing you’ll see affect us from time to time that makes it a little choppy is the mix of large orders and actually the larger orders contributed, the large order mix in the quarter contributed a little bit of a headwind versus the prior year’s quarter. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: Okay, okay.

Stacy McMahan

CFO

But just a little bit which is because we had a good amount of large orders to ship in Q1 of this year.

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

: So there’s potential some plus up as we move forward with the headwinds kind of going off to the side, assuming that the mix on and I assume it’s related to what’s going on in the Gulf region if that mix continues to be there, [indiscernible] headwinds (besides) [ph] there’s potential upside in that margin of that. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: When I look at and I’ve seen -- we saw the G1 mask, you know I guess two weeks ago now and I was curious if maybe it’s too early and too preliminary but have you noticed that some of the firefighters want to wait on the M7XT before purchasing and having a chance with the G1 or is there going to -- I know there’s going to be some carried delayed impact into 2Q, I was kind of seeing what may be the preliminary kind of assumptions are there surrounding what firefighters might be thinking.

Nish Vartanian

Analyst · Sidoti & Company

Yes, this is Nish, you know we saw some of that. There are departments who are leaning towards the M7XT and certainly the G1. You saw the excitement at the conference and they got caught up in that excitement. So there are a number of departments who are taking a look at the G1 as a possibility. So, we do have some departments who are excited about the product and waiting for that approval so they can do some field evaluations to do a comparison, so they got caught up in that excitement as everyone else did.

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Yes, I think that there’s some risk on the M7XT, the orders being switched to the G1 but I think that risk and what we’ve seen so far is relatively low. I think where the greater excitement is quite honestly and what we have absolutely seen are folks holding off competitive SCBA purchases waiting for the G1 and that’s probably the more exciting part for us, because we see the G1 as really providing us with a platform where we can take competitive market share in the fire service. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: I mean, it’s a high-class problem to have, I guess, having your own customers waiting and I assume that what’s you wanted anyway to begin with or what you hoped for, so that’s good news. Last question and then I’ll move on. In the fall protection business and you said it was down I think 5% on U.S. weakness due to a recall, and I’m just curious I mean that’s one of the areas of focus, I know it’s a smaller portion of the business, but one of the areas of focus for kind of improvement overall, as you see a lot of plus upside there. I am kind of curious, where are we in that kind of bringing it up to the industry kind of standard and what you see for that business on a go forward basis?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Yes, I think that our first quarter results in fall protection were disappointing but were hampered by the recall that we had last year and implementing that recall and whatever residual effects that we had from it in the North American market. It doesn’t dissuade us though from what we see as great potential in this market. This product line is literally our fastest growing product line over the last 15 years when you look at 15 year compound annual growth rate. We see it as great opportunity going forward with adoption of standards worldwide increasing. It’s a very fragmented market on a global basis which provides both obstacles and opportunities, and so I think that as we look at the market we’re still very much interested and expanding our presence in fall protection and making it a strong bigger part of our core. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: When you say adoption of safety product standards worldwide, is this to imply that maybe the share in U.S. isn't necessarily what you’re targeting and maybe you’re targeting more the emerging market growth and securing that business or what did you mean by -- I mean I understand.

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

That’s exactly right, Ed. I think that there -- when we look at the market here in North America and the U.S. in particular, it’s very crowded space with a couple of really large leaders, but when you look internationally at the growth potential that exists we see some great opportunities internationally. Edward Marshall - Sidoti & Company: And with the liquidity that Stacy discussed earlier, you have a lot of fire power if necessary?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

That’s very accurate.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Walter Liptak from Global Hunter. Go ahead Walter with your question. If your line is on mute, un-mute your line. And we’ll move onto our next question from Richard Eastman from Robert W. Baird

Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Hi, just a couple of sales related questions. In North America, how did the industrial piece of North America perform, industrial sales?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Yes, so the industrial sales were robust, Rick. We obviously led by portable instrument sales up by 22% and then obviously head protection were up 13%. So overall our industrial piece was very strong and that was driven predominantly by the energy market along the gulf coast. So we had good sales in North America on the industrial side.

Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Again, if fall protection was a bit of an issue and then the fixed flame and gas I think you might have had some tough comps with some larger orders, but was that business, was the industrial up at least -- was it up 10 or mid singles?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Yes, it was up about 8.8% I believe is the number on that.

Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Okay, thank you. And then also just a question, similar question on Europe. Given in local currency it was maybe down a little bit -- was the industrial and fire service businesses that they both performed about the same or did we get some growth out of the industrial piece of Europe?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

I would say that the significant part of the growth came from the military side of the business in the first quarter. When we looked at the ballistic helmet business for example, it was up considerably but then also in the Middle East we saw a bit of a recovery in the Middle East with respect to fixed gas and flame detection, it was a bright spot for us over in the Middle East. So, it was somewhat of a mixed bag with strength in Western Europe driven by ballistic helmet and the Middle East business driven predominately by the industrial base.

Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Okay, but are we seeing -- on the industrial side of the business, are we seeing any signs of life just within industrial demand? Or is it probably -- is it too early?

Stacy McMahan

CFO

We characterize it as modest.

Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Okay, okay.

Stacy McMahan

CFO

: Not anything to get excited about, but it’s not declining.

Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Okay. And then just I wanted to circle back for a minute on the SG&A line. I think without restructuring, it was about 85 million of SG&A in the quarter and I maybe a little surprised that we’re putting SG&A investment in the Europe with Europe 2.0 well underway, but the one timers that’s you called out there Stacy maybe about 5 million in what I guess I would think of is maybe one timers, I think that was the message you are sending. And so you know, sequentially is it appropriate to think that maybe in, Q2 we’re going to be closer to 80 million all in?

Stacy McMahan

CFO

You know, what I would say, the characterization, that and when I was speaking with Ed, about non-repeaters, essentially this was new investments in the quarter that didn’t appear in the prior year's quarter. The product liability settlement, those can appear, it can be choppy, from quarter-to-quarter it’s very difficult for us to predict when that’s going to happen, so that one is just a variable, okay. The professional service cost, we still have ongoing corporate projects that we’re supporting throughout the year. So and they may be throughout than we will repeat. We don’t necessarily say that they will repeat into next year, all right. And then the 2.0 investment really relates to setting up again the new headquarters and infrastructure for the future structure of Europe, that’s why it’s not in restructuring charges. But you have an offset of a lot of the savings that are going to hit from those restructuring charges that we take in to reduce the footprint overall.

Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

So as we talk about those, year-over-year, you know I am thinking more quarter-over-quarter and your commentary maybe to end your comments during the conference call was kind of managing the discretionary expense side.

Stacy McMahan

CFO

Right.

Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

But is that 85 million a good run rate on a quarterly basis going forward?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

I am surprised that number is that high, I mean again our revenue kind of missed which means our selling expense should be, maybe a little bit less. But the 85 million run rate on a quarterly persists through the year, through this year.

Stacy McMahan

CFO

At the stock compensation -- stock compensation expense drives it higher in the first quarter. So 85 million is high from that, but we continue to launch new products, as we still have those new product launch expenses and we’ll continue to have -- fund our corporate projects. So, but it will -- it is a high quarter is what I am saying. Richard Eastman – Robert W. Baird: And is it -- the product liability of the 2 million for product liability, why would I think that would more of a reserve than it would be an ongoing quarterly expense?

Stacy McMahan

CFO

If you’ll refer to some of the footnotes and our 10-K filing, we can -- it explains it more completely than I can explain it right now. But the product liability for this type of, what we call a toxic torch, is something that we have very difficulty coming up with an estimate of what you reserve. And its explained, related to how the -- we don’t know when a case comes to trial, we don’t know exactly what they are asking for, we don’t know how the jury is going to decide. So traditionally we have had great difficulty estimating that. When we know it, we estimate it, we put a reserve on. But this is one of those we weren’t able to estimate.

Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Okay. All right. Can I just ask you Bill, I mean when you look at this first quarter and we all know there were lots of puts and takes both internationally in U.S. but -- do you -- how far off of your sales plan for the full calendar year. Do you feel that you are after this quarter? Because you know again, you have the commentary about the backlog and the order flow being good. But how are you assessing this quarter relative to your full year sales plan?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Yes, it’s a good question, Rick. And I’ll try to provide you a little bit of insight here. Actually, we put together a time phased planned internally here that we run the business to. And we just about hit our time phased sales plan quite honestly. I mean we are really close to our time phased sales plan. And actually we’re better in our time phased operating margin and operating income performance. So I am not perhaps as disappointed with the quarter, as the comparison between consensus estimate and our actual performance was. This was going to be -- we knew this was going to be a challenging year in the sense that the first half would be much more difficult in the back half of the year and it’s playing out that way. But just as we said, I mean the biggest impact was on sales volume with the majority of that miss and SCBA compounded by some of the sales volume miss in China, Russia, Sub-Saharan Africa, those part of the emerging markets, all well documented as to some of the struggles that are going on in those geographies. And then you add in the SG&A expense that was a little bit lumpy and a little bit heavier in the first quarter and the effective tax-rate and that tells the story of how the first quarter went and what the issues work for us.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) And we have a question from Walter Liptak from Global Hunter. Please go ahead.

Walter Liptak - Global Hunter

Analyst · Global Hunter. Please go ahead

I just have a question on the portable instruments. You guys had strong growth there. Is there any sense on how sustainable that is, whether that was possibly an inventory build at the distribution level or an indicator of stronger demand?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Well I think as we’ve talked about in the past, we knew that the spring season in the refinery turnarounds and gulf coast turnaround area was going to be strong. So a part of that is associated with that very strong turnaround season that we see in oil and gas petrochem industry. I don’t believe it was due to inventory build. I think it was due to some strong turnaround season factors as well as MSA gaining competitive market share.

Walter Liptak - Global Hunter

Analyst · Global Hunter. Please go ahead

Okay, great. And then on SCBA, should we be thinking about Q2 more in line with Q1 or can the M7XT make an impact from the start with a full quarter?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

I’m sorry, I’m chuckling there Walter. It borderlines on providing guidance but we don’t see the second quarter as Stacy indicated in her commentary as being significantly different on the SCBA front than the first quarter. We are shipping the M7XT now. We are shipping the M7 SCBA, so fire departments do have those choices, but as we indicated with the new G1 SCBA, we have certain decisions that are being pushed out and that’s not until the second half of the year product.

Walter Liptak - Global Hunter

Analyst · Global Hunter. Please go ahead

Okay, great. Can you talk maybe a little about just the feedback you guys got from customers at the show on the technology in the G1 probably relative to your competition?

Bill Lambert

Chief Executive Officer

Sure, it exceeded our expectation. The feedback at the show was overwhelmingly positive and exceeded our expectations. I think we’ve really hit the mark there and those who were able to attend the show kind of confirmed that for us.

Operator

Operator

And I’ll turn it back over to you, Ken, for any closing remarks.

Ken Krause

Management

Great. Thank you, John. Seeing that we have no more questions that concludes this morning’s call. If you missed a portion of the conference call, an audio replay will be available on our website for the next 30 days as well as the transcript of the call. On behalf of our entire team here, I want to thank you for your continued interest in MSA and we look forward to talking with you again soon. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That concludes today’s call. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect at this time.