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Marvell Technology, Inc. (MRVL)

Q4 2012 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 23, 2012

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2012 Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Earnings Conference Call. My name is Jeff, and I'll be your coordinator for today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host for today, Mr. Sukhi Nagesh, Vice President, Investor Relations. And you have the floor, sir.

Sukhi Nagesh

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you, Jeff and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Marvell Technology Group's Fourth Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2012 Earnings Call. I'm Sukhi Nagesh, Vice President of Investor Relations. And with me on the call today are Sehat Sutardja, Marvell's CEO; and Clyde Hosein, Marvell's CFO. We will all be available during the Q&A portion of the call today. If you have not obtained a copy of our current press release, it can be found at our company website under the Investor Relations section at marvell.com. Additionally, this call is being recorded and will be available for replay from our website. Please be reminded that today's discussion will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our results to differ materially from management's current expectations. The risks and uncertainties include our expectations about sales of new and existing products, including statements about our TD, W-CDMA PON, HDD and SSD products, statements about general trends in the end markets we serve, growth opportunities, impact of the flooding in Thailand, statements regarding our financial predictions for the first quarter of fiscal 2013 and our expectations for long-term growth. To fully understand the risk and uncertainties that may cause results to differ from our expectations and outlook, please refer to today's earnings release, our latest quarterly report on Form 10-Q and subsequent SEC filings for a detailed description of our business and associated risk. Please be reminded that all of our statements are made as of today, and Marvell undertakes no obligation to revise or update publicly any forward-looking statements. During our call today, we will make reference to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which exclude the effect of stock-based compensation, amortization of acquired intangible assets, acquisition-related costs, restructuring costs and certain onetime expenses and benefits that are driven primarily by discreet events that management does not consider to be directly related to our core operating performance. Pursuant to Regulation G, we have provided reconciliations of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our fourth fiscal quarter and full year 2012 earnings prese release, which has been furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K and is available on our website in the Investor Relations section. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Sehat.

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thanks, Sukhi, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, we reported fourth quarter revenues of approximately $743 million, reflecting a 22% sequential decrease from the prior quarter. The sequential decline was driven largely by lower HDD volumes on account of the Thailand floods, seasonality and softer demand for our Mobile & Wireless products, particularly in China. For the quarter, we delivered the following non-GAAP results: gross margin of 54.5%, operating margin of 16% and earnings per share of $0.21. In addition and consistent with our plan to return value to our shareholders, we continue to repurchase our shares. In Q4, we repurchased about 13.5 million shares for a total of approximately $186 million. Fiscal 2012 was a challenging one for the industry and for Marvell in particular. We endured product transitions at one of our largest customer, the Japan earthquake during the early part of the year and cloud-related disruptions in the later part of the year. These challenges created a perfect storm for us. We estimate these effects on our full year revenues to be about 10%. In spite of these effects, we continue to invest in new product initiatives and ended the year with revenues of $3.4 billion, non-GAAP EPS of $1.27 and free cash flow of $670 million or 20% of revenues. Over the last 6 quarters, we repurchased and retired approximately 93 million or about 14% of our shares and returning $1.4 billion to our shareholders. Before I go to our end market results, I would like to also take a moment and highlight some of the new initiatives that we introduced recently. At CES, we announced the ARMADA 1500 application processor, which has been designed into the next generation Google TV and other applications such as set-top boxes. We are proud of this accomplishment and this design…

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · John Pitzer with Credit Suisse

Thank you, Sehat. And good afternoon, everyone. As Sehat mentioned, we reported revenues for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2012 of approximately $743 million, representing a 22% sequential decrease from Q3 of fiscal 2012, and down about 18% from the same period a year ago. Our non-GAAP gross margin for the fourth quarter was approximately 54.5%, within our earlier projected range. Our overall operating expenses for the fourth quarter on a non-GAAP basis were approximately $289 million, a 4% decrease from the prior quarter as we implemented cost controls across-the-board. R&D expenses for the quarter were approximately $232 million, a decrease of 4% from the prior quarter. SG&A expenses for the quarter were approximately $56 million, also a 4% decrease from the prior quarter. This resulted in non-GAAP operating margin of 16% for the quarter. Net interest and other income was about $5 million. We also had a $5 million tax benefit for the quarter due to a tax rate change in a foreign jurisdiction. Our non-GAAP net income for the fiscal fourth quarter was approximately $127 million or $0.21 per diluted share. The shares used to compute a diluted non-GAAP EPS during the fourth quarter were approximately 606 million, a decrease of roughly 9 million shares from the prior quarter, primarily due to our share repurchase program. Cash flow from operations for the fourth quarter was approximately $69 million, as compared to $269 million reported in the third quarter. Free cash flow for the fourth quarter was $38 million compared to free cash flow of $239 million reported in the previous quarter. The decline in free cash flow was a result of a decline in revenues and changes in working capital primarily due to the Thai floods. This being our fiscal year end, I would also like to summarize…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Sanjay Devgan with Morgan Stanley.

Sanjay Devgan - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

I guess, first question I had, looking at the outlook for the storage business, you previously expected that business to snap back, and I was wondering, looking at the slope of the recovery for the HDD industry in aggregate, how does that change? What are your projection going forward? And how does that change kind of relative to your previous assumptions?

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you, Sanjay. As we discussed on our announcement earlier and today, the industry started a little bit later than we originally anticipated on our last call. But the trajectory, once it started, should resemble what we said earlier. We expect roughly 1/2 of the recovery to happen in our fiscal Q1 and the rest of it in fiscal Q2. That is slightly ahead than you might hear from some of the industry, but we tend to ship ahead of the drive guys. So start a little bit earlier, but the trajectory should be the same as we had described earlier.

Sanjay Devgan - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Great, that's helpful. And then one other question if I can. Just talking about -- obviously, you had a great deal of success in the TD market in China last year, but obviously, the success is now bringing on additional competitors. Was wondering, as you look at the competitive landscape increasing over there, what can you do to kind of hold on to the share. I think you said you have around 70% share. What can you do to maintain what differentiates your products? Is it cost, performance, power, all of the above? What's going to kind of help you guys maintain your positioning there?

Sukhi Nagesh

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

The answer to that is quite straightforward. We are on our path to introduce our second-generation device, we are already working on the third-generation device and even already start planning on the fourth-generation device. So -- okay, while initially we only have one product, so what we need to do is we need to fork the products into the high-end products, as well as even lower cost but potentially much higher volume market opportunities. So this is the typical strategy that anyone will take. In this case, we have proven portable stacks. So I mean, the things that we have to do is just to deliver the products and port the stacks into the new chips.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Pitzer with Credit Suisse. John Pitzer - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: A couple of follow-on questions. First, on the TD market, my understanding was some of the weakness in the January quarter were some inventory changes at some of the Chinese customers. Given that you're guiding Mobile & Wireless kind of seasonal, it sounds like you're not getting a benefit from any inventory restocking from the destocking in the Jan. quarter, is that true? And if so, would you expect any sort of restocking in inventory sometime throughout this current fiscal year?

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · John Pitzer with Credit Suisse

Restocking, to that level, hopefully not. Because they ended up with more inventory than we had anticipated. John, to understand that in our fiscal Q3, 2 of those 3 months we were in allocation mode. The demand far exceeded what we had anticipated going into that quarter. And as is typical in that industry, people tend to over order, and as it turned out, particularly with the tier 2 and tier 3 customers, we have indicated earlier, over 20 customers in that space and that order more than they needed. And so we didn't -- it's harder to get visibility to the tier 2 and tier 3 folks. And so we didn't see that in our Q3 so hopefully that netted out. Then you run into this quarter, you end up at a Chinese New Year, typical Q1, low seasonality. So we see stability in the TD market in our fiscal Q1, and we expect growth to resume in Q2. We've added some significant customers even as we speak, and as Sehat indicated, we added more content to those customers as we move on in that space. So it is stabilize this quarter, and we expect the growth to happen, to resume next quarter. John Pitzer - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: And then, Clyde, as a follow-on to the first question asked on the HDD space. You talked about half the recovery happening in the April quarter, the other half recovering in July quarter. How are you defining a full recovery? Would that imply that by the time you guys get to the July quarter, you'll be back above kind of $400 million run rate in revenue or how are you defining a full recovery?

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · John Pitzer with Credit Suisse

Putting aside industry dynamics, I expect that the supply situation should resume back to the preflood levels. And as you know, John, Q3 is ahead of back-to-school, and we all end up speculating as to what PC demand is, so I don't want to peg a particular number to it. But I expect supply situation to resume to normal levels by our July quarter.

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · John Pitzer with Credit Suisse

I can add some color to this storage demand. So currently, storage from -- it's well-known in the industry that the industry shipping product to the point where the inventory level is practically nonexistent. So that what limits it is it's building -- the demand always is higher than the supply. And the biggest impact really is in these high-precision CNC machineries that got flooded. So this is what I learned over the last few days. But the good thing is that I also -- we also found out that many of the suppliers, their machineries got flooded, are already bringing in new CNC machines, and it's confirming what we originally like predicted in the past, where they've got to bring advanced machinery. So that's happening. So all the base plate manufacturers, as well as the motor manufacturers, are bringing in very advanced machineries they have. They can be actually extremely useful to build the next generation's 7 millimeter -- I mean, today's -- this upcoming volume 7 millimeter drives, they will be useful for the Ultrabooks market, as well as in the future, 5 millimeter drives. So this is very encouraging in the long run.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Glen Yeung with Citi.

Glen Yeung - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst · Glen Yeung with Citi

Can one of you elaborate a little bit about the content increase that you're seeing in TD phones? Maybe help us understand what do you think your content will be on average in 2012, what it was -- versus what it was in 2011, for example?

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Glen Yeung with Citi

We are adding new silicon functionalities, not anything to move the needle in a major way, but we are adding more content to the cell phone, silicon solutions. We're actually using other people's content. Earlier, we used more of it. I expect that to continue as the year goes on. And then you have overall price. We described earlier, competition coming in. We today remain the only supplier. We have 100% share of the single chip. Now it's hard to maintain 100%. As you go down, we expect pricing to be more competitive as we go through the year. So from a dollar content point of view -- from a chip content point of view, I expect us to deliver more chips. Dollar content, we need to see how competition reacts to pricing.

Glen Yeung - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst · Glen Yeung with Citi

Okay, fair enough. As a follow-up, Sehat, you mentioned that the sort of natural disasters in 2011 robbed you about 10% of revenue. Is that something where we should think that will come back to you in 2012? Or was some of that lost revenue and we shouldn't think of it that way?

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Glen Yeung with Citi

This is Clyde, before Sehat answers. The combination of a number of things, including natural disasters, was 10%. The Thai floods, in particular, was about 4%. And as we end the year, as I indicated earlier, I expect -- as we go through Q3, we'll be back to normal production, full quarter, as we end up -- I'm sorry, Q2, we should be back to full production from the flood. So Q2 will be the full quarter effect of that. So yes, I expect that we would recover that 4%. In terms of cellular customers, if you look at Marvell prior to the flood, we had restored back to that decline already. So I expect as the year goes on we should be able to get back to a normal run rate.

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · Glen Yeung with Citi

Yes. With regards to storage, storage is -- this is an area where we have been -- this is truly our playground, our territory. If you look at the competitions from a decade ago, when we had a dozen to 20 competitors, and we only have 1 left. And that's not -- and maybe that's not so important to know, but it's more important to know that in the 500 gigabyte-per-platter, 2.5 inch drive, we are in all customers. We have design wins in all customers. And a lot of these customers are ramping up as we speak. So as to that impact, most of the ramp-up is limited by the amount of components that can be built because of the flood. These new platforms, the 500 gigabytes, use new SoC, but that's not the bottleneck. The bottleneck is the new base plates, the new motors that they're using into this 500 gigabytes per platter. But again, as these new CNC machines are being brought in as we speak, and my gut feeling talking to the base plate manufacturers, this will be completed in the next few months, as these equipments are being brought up to production. A lot of the components will be more widely available for these 500 gigabytes-per-platter solutions. So clearly, as the industry wants -- as the PC industry, so the consumer electronics, the PVRs all want more capacities, it's natural that these revenues is going to come back to us. It's going to come back especially to us because of this 500 gigabyte is, by far, we are the only one that's shipping this technology into the market.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Uche Orji with UBS.

Uche X. Orji - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · Uche Orji with UBS

Sehat, let me start with solid state drives. There are 2 questions I want to ask you. The first is you mentioned Ultrabooks as a possible driver. What is your sense of the design momentum for Ultrabooks? And do you have any sense how much will use hybrid drives and how much will use pure SSD? And essentially just describe what your competitive edge is in this market vis–à–vis other players?

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · Uche Orji with UBS

As we mentioned many times in the past, we've been investing in SSDs for almost -- more than 6 years already. We did anticipate that the SSD has certain advantages, namely the power, instant-on capability and tiny footprint, like very thin profiles. Having said that, we also know that there's a cost disadvantage in SSDs, which over the last decade -- over the last decade and a half we're looking into this. It's always about around 8:1 to 10:1 ratio. So we know that for us to be a leader in this market, we need to put our best into both sides. For people, they really care to build truly the thinnest of the thinnest laptops. The SSD will be the natural choice regardless what the price is. That's a price-insensitive market. For the billions of people in the world that wants to have, let's say, Ultrabook-like laptops, they will not be able to afford to pay more than, let's say, $399 for the laptops. In that case, somehow we need to solve this problem some other way, and you already mentioned one way to do it is to have a hybrid solution. So it's clear that the hybrid solution will be an important solution for the -- 80% of the [indiscernible] people in the world, they cannot afford to pay for the full SSD solution. So we've also been working on hybrid solution, again for the last 5 years. And not to mention, even that we thought that there will always be markets in the bottom, maybe 50% of the market, maybe even the hybrids, maybe they can afford to pay. Those other markets, they will be targeting the sub $250, $300, sub $300 laptops. So those other markets are going to be served with traditional HDDs. In this…

Glen Yeung - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst · Uche Orji with UBS

That's fine. At least it's helpful to know that [indiscernible] limited drive markets. Can I just switch gears a little bit onto the wireless segments? Outside of your TD-SCDMA, can you disclose the trends of your non-Chinese TD customers? And specifically if you can talk about -- obviously you don't talk about your customers openly, but we know the big one outside of China. Any sense as to whether we should expect any revenue drivers outside of China's TD, customers? And also any updates on TD-LTE developments at Marvell, that would be helpful.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Uche Orji with UBS

Any updates on -- what's the last part?

Glen Yeung - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst · Uche Orji with UBS

TD-LTE.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Uche Orji with UBS

So I'll answer the last part. We are developing TD-LTE. As Sehat mentioned, we announced product in Q3 last year that follows through on that. And I think Marvell will have solutions in both TD-LTE and FDD-LTE as that market develops in that space. On the non-TD customers, we mentioned in our prepared remarks earlier, we started seeing increased activity and revenues in the W-CDMA space. It's [indiscernible] traction. That's about 6 to 9 months from where we were ramping TD following similar patterns. Now that's a lot more competitive space, unlike TD where we dominated. There's a lot more competition in the W-CDMA space. So the growth in trajectory probably won't follow as TD, but it is so far growing along to the earlier TD projections. A lot more competition in that space so we need to play out a lot more pricing and the like. So we expect that and we expect that to grow. And as far our largest customer, that business continues to be stable. Obviously, it ebbs and flows with that customer and with seasonality. But that business has been stable for a year now.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Harlan Sur with JPMorgan. Harlan Sur - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: On the outlook for your storage business, my understanding is that HDD production will be growing about 20% to 30% sequentially here in the first quarter. And I've always believed that production is probably a better proxy for your chipset sales. So maybe if you could help us understand the difference between your shipment outlook of up 10% to 20% versus production growth of 20% to 30% by your customers. Are there some inventories of your HDD SoCs, and that's where the delta is? Any color there would be great, and then I have a follow-up question.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Harlan Sur with JPMorgan

So no inventory. I mean, obviously things continue to be tight. One of the biggest supplier in that space for their calendar Q1, I think units were up 12%. If they are producing much more than that, obviously, I can't comment on any specific customers. But our guidance of 10% to 20% is at least consistent with us with a bias to better than that, so perhaps that gets closer to the number where you are. If the industry or particular customers do, other than 1 customer whether you ramp it today, we pretty much have a very significant share, or 100% share of all the customer. So if their production was to grow, as you said, then we'll follow that growth. Our forecast today is more reflective and a little bit better than, say, the 12% at one of the biggest suppliers. Harlan Sur - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Great. I appreciate that, Clyde. And then on the previous call, you mentioned your view on the TD market in 2013, I think, somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 million to 30 million smartphone shipments this year. That's up about, I think, 2x, 2.5x versus last year. Is that still the team's view?

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Harlan Sur with JPMorgan

That is still the view, not just of Marvell but a number of people have published TD smartphone units in the 20 million to 30 million range.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Srini Pajjuri of CLSA. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Seymore with Deutsche Bank.

Bobby Gujavarty - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division

Analyst · Srini Pajjuri of CLSA. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Seymore with Deutsche Bank

This is Bob Gujavarty for Ross. I was curious if you think -- you mentioned your SSD controller, you kind of surpassed your expectations for last year. Do you think that, that's an acceleration of SSD adoption or just a simple perhaps pull-in in response to the HDD shortage? Be interested in your take.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Srini Pajjuri of CLSA. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Seymore with Deutsche Bank

I think it's both. About a year ago, I think on this call, we said we expect our SSD revenues end in the year, which was our last reported quarter, to more than double, to double, and it's more than doubled. So the point is Marvell is a very, very significant player in that space. What we saw in Q4 with more than doubled, part of the demand is because of HDD shortages, as you pointed out correctly. So we saw some effects of that. And obviously, as HDDs supply come into the line, you might see less of it. But I also think -- we also think that this year will be an inflection point for Ultrabooks. Once you started by a significant supply -- PC supplier last year, I think Ultrabooks, with all the benefits, some of which I had covered earlier, I think people are beginning to adopt. So I think regardless of supply situation and HDD shortages, I think calendar 2012 will be an inflection point for Ultrabooks, and we expect that to play in that space. Now how big that's going to be is to be seen. One of the key players in this space thinks 40% of laptops this year will play. That's interesting, but we don't have a prediction on it. What we predict is to make sure we play with the various players in the space. We have our controllers in there, and we feel confident that we do.

Bobby Gujavarty - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division

Analyst · Srini Pajjuri of CLSA. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Seymore with Deutsche Bank

Great. And then just a quick one on your W-CDMA traction. Curious how we should think about kind of the geography. Is it China first then maybe other emerging markets? Obviously W-CDMA is a very competitive market. Just curious how we should monitor your design win traction perhaps by geography versus -- I know you can't talk about specific customers.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Srini Pajjuri of CLSA. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Seymore with Deutsche Bank

Sure. I think what you said is a fair accuracy. But understand that a lot of the OEMs are China-based, they make it in China. But they are marketing these products in a number of countries. I expect in the near future, you would see Marvell W-CDMA products in Europe, in the South America, in other parts of Asia other than China and possibly in Australia and North America. So it's hard to predict where they market their products. A lot of design activity centers around the China region because the device manufacturers are there. But we know they are planning to deploy this in multiple geographies around the world because our engineers are working with them to do the carrier qualification.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Doug Freedman with RBC Capital Markets.

Doug Freedman - RBC Capital Markets, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Doug Freedman with RBC Capital Markets

Can you guys talk a little bit about what you're doing to improve the gross margins? Clearly, there's a recovery in your business that should help. But I believe you were also working on improving shipping more devices with copper. And how that transition's going?

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Doug Freedman with RBC Capital Markets

Yes. So there are 2 things that affected our margins. Well, there are multiple things, but 2 things that we are fixing. One of them, obviously, as business recovers. But beyond that, you mentioned copper, Doug. We are moving most of our new designs onto copper. That has started, that's going to accelerate probably more likely in the second half of this year in terms of meaningful volumes. And we feel comfortable with that, although there's always areas for us to improve on that in copper. The second area is we have challenges on the wafer side of it, and we have developed strategies last year to improve on our wafer costs by using a number of suppliers. We begin to see early results of that this quarter, very early results. But we think as the year goes on, we will see improving results. So certainly, in the second half of this year, expect us to see improving margins, putting aside mix and economic levels and the like. But from a fundamental point of view, with copper and wafer sourcing, we expect to see improvement in our second half.

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · Doug Freedman with RBC Capital Markets

Let me add a little bit. Although it's still very -- a small percentage of the impact to us, some of the advanced products that you're seeing in expensive packaging. So some of it, we are also looking in new technology to solve this problem. But that impact, more will come sometime next year -- I mean, the improvements in the site. So we are -- basically, the message is we're tackling it from multiple different angles, improving the second source, I guess what Clyde already mentioned. That's one thing, I guess, we have mentioned. We're also accelerating the development of new process technology using even smaller, more advanced technology for new products so that the sooner we can get the new products in production, the sooner that we can phase out the older products that tends to have not great gross margin due to all the shortage or whatever wafers in that process node, for example. So many different angles, copper, multiple sources and accelerating process technology, as well as developing new packaging technology to solve some of these advanced requirements.

Doug Freedman - RBC Capital Markets, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Doug Freedman with RBC Capital Markets

And all of these actions put together, expect you to return to your past gross margin targets, where you've been sort of 60%-ish, is that the right way to...

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · Doug Freedman with RBC Capital Markets

Yes, that will be hard. The reason is also we're also going into markets where -- in the consumer space, where -- think about it this way. If we are successful going into address these entry-level smartphones, to address the bottom 50% of the world population, that cannot be 60% gross margin market. That is certainly like -- but the volume will be tremendous. So what we care for that market is actually our bottom line.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Doug Freedman with RBC Capital Markets

I agree, Doug. Keep in mind, our margins today, as much as people might be concerned, the size is amongst the best in the industry. So when you're at the top, everybody takes shots at you. And our gross margin today is higher. We expect to improve that as we increase. But whether we get back to previous levels, I think is given the business we go into, is going to be tougher. We expect to improve it, particularly in the second half of this year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Srini Pajjuri again with CLSA. Srini Pajjuri - Credit Agricole Securities (USA) Inc., Research Division: I guess, Clyde, you said that your HDD business, you gained about 5 percentage points of share last year. I'm just wondering what your thoughts about your market share this year. As we go through the next several quarters, how do you feel about your market share?

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · CLSA

Post recovery, I suppose.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · CLSA

Right. So once you -- the 5 points was before any flood effects. Once you get past the flood effects -- so putting aside flood effects, which we described adequately on this call, we feel very comfortable about the other areas that we're going to go. I'm going to turn it over to Sehat since he met recently those customers, and he has a lot more color to add about that.

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · CLSA

Yes. So I happened to spend like the whole day yesterday actually, 10 hours, 12 hours talking to different people in the supply chain and one of the largest customer. So based on the data I've seen, I feel even more confident that all our design wins that we mentioned last year about our share gains in this market is going to materialize. As these factories are being built, the new factories are being replenished with new equipment, our share can only go up. Many of the design wins that we talk about are the design wins that we had like 2 years ago -- last year, 2 years ago. So this is just about to go into productions into the market.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · CLSA

I think sufficiently, Sehat, you feel very comfortable after yesterday with the design activity, the current design activity at the particular customers, new customers, that I think Sehat feels very good about those design activities after yesterday's meeting.

Operator

Operator

Our next question actually comes from the line of James Schneider with Goldman Sachs.

James Schneider - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

I was wondering if you could quantify your TD-SCDMA revenues for last fiscal year. And then maybe looking out forward, as we look forward to TD-LTE, whether you think you can maintain the same kind of share on TD-LTE as you currently have on TD-SCDMA.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

We don't disclose any revenues by product. Let's stick to end markets. So I'm sorry, I can't give you that specific. On TD-LTE, just like with W-CDMA, we expect more competition. On our TD business today, like I said, we have about 70% overall share. Competition is very much more limited in LTE space altogether. And TD-LTE, we expect a lot more competition. So I don't think the share is going to approach that level, but the market opportunity there, both FDD-LTE and TD-LTE, is bigger. So we expect that, that's not near-term. I think that's more of a next year type of growth. So smaller share but a much bigger market for any versions of LTE.

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

But having said that, also you need to understand that the TD-LTE -- there's several different markets for TD-LTE. One is to address China market, specific market, and the other part is the TD-LTE to address the rest of the world. The 2 have a completely different market. The one that address the China market must have TD-SCDMA backwards compatibility. So for that market, the competitions there that we'll be facing in the TD-LTE for China market will be the market that must have the presence in TD-SCDMA. So these are not the kind of competition that -- you normally talk about big, big companies competitions. In the rest of the worlds, where they may not need to have a TD-SCDMA backwards compatibility, that will be the market with the open competition will be against the biggest of the biggest chip suppliers in the world. But regardless, we are confident because the biggest market for TD-LTE is at this point is still China, so our solutions are being proven in the China market. So if it's good enough in China for the China market, it's going to be good enough for any parts of the world.

James Schneider - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Just in terms of the R&D spend, I think over the last 18 months, it's drifted up fairly meaningfully. I was wondering, as we go through this year, how much increase we could expect in R&D and maybe what are the top investment priorities that are driving that.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

If you look at some of the programs Sehat mentioned before, obviously TD-LTE, SSD, some of the new...

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Hybrid technology.

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

And the like. That's where we were investing. I expect our rate and pace of increase in R&D, Jim, to slow down this year versus last year. We'll still keep increasing investment but a much lower rate than we did before. Last year, we added a significant amount of engineers as we ramped up a number of new programs, Google TV microcontrollers should be put in that category. This year, you'll see a more moderate increase in headcount. But we'll have increase in new tapeout, new products and the like. So that's probably where most of the increase will come from, but much slower pace than we did a year ago.

Operator

Operator

Our final question comes from the line of Mark Lipacis with Jefferies. Mark Lipacis - Jefferies & Company, Inc., Research Division: Two questions, actually. When you talk about the Google TV design win, can you help us understand, what is the broader implications of that design win? Does this mean that you guys are -- is this product basically going to just grow with Google TV shipments? Or is there something broader going on there? And I have a follow-up.

Sehat Sutardja

Analyst · Jefferies

It is something broader than that. But it's important to address the specific Google TV opportunities. I think people could appreciate the revolutions in the smartphones, where phones used to be boring, basic feature functionalities. And then all of a sudden, it is more advanced than many PCs. In fact, you can argue the touchscreen technology, the display technology and the user interface technology in the smartphone is way ahead of the PC space. So this same technology that revolutionized the phone business is also going to revolutionize the television business, not the television business but also set-top box business. So the Google TV is to address this television business, and then there will be variants of this, they will go into set-top box business. So this is to us, to Marvell, this is a big business opportunity, because over the last 17 years we've been in the business, we have decided not to enter this business because of the entrenched competitions from the 2 top suppliers in this area. And unless we could get a differentiation, it will just be a waste of our time to enter this -- to go into this market. So we've been preparing ourselves over the last 5 years to build solutions that will intercept the future. And the future is everything smart, smart TV, smart set-top boxes, smart everything, smart appliances, smart -- whatever it is that you want. Everything that you have in the smartphones, multiply that by many times performance to fit in the display size of a TV. Mark Lipacis - Jefferies & Company, Inc., Research Division: Okay, fair enough. And then the last question on the customer inventories. I think you were pretty clear that they're below normal levels in the hard disk drive supply chain. Did you mention on the wireless and networking -- can you give us a sense where your customer inventories are in that or the supply chain is there?

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Jefferies

On networking, we don't see any inventory. Our networking business, relative to the broad market, Mark, did very well last quarter, and I think will overachieve again this quarter. So we don't see any inventory problem, certainly none that affects Marvell. But I don't see anything major there. In cellular wireless and mobile, I think there's a couple of customers that might have, and that's reflected in our forecast. But nothing broad in any broad industry way. Mark Lipacis - Jefferies & Company, Inc., Research Division: Clyde, when you say networking, you don't see any inventory, does that mean that the inventories are normal levels or below normal levels?

Clyde R. Hosein

Analyst · Jefferies

Normal from what we see.

Operator

Operator

All right. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the question-and-answer portion. I'd now like to turn the presentation back over to Sukhi Nagesh for closing remarks.

Sukhi Nagesh

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Well, thank you, everyone, for joining us on this call. We'll participate in a few conferences this quarter, and we'll talk to you again next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Have a wonderful day.