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Operator
Operator
Good day everyone, and welcome to the Mercury Systems Second Quarter Fiscal 2017 Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time for opening remarks and introductions, I'd like to turn the call over to the Company's Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Gerry Haines. Please go ahead, sir.
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. With me today is our President and Chief Executive Officer, Mark Aslett. If you have not received a copy of the earnings press release we issued earlier this afternoon, you can find it on our website at www.mrcy.com. We’d like to remind you that remarks that we may make during this call about future expectations, trends, and plans for the company and its business constitute forward-looking statements as that term is defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. You can identify these statements by the use of the words may, will, could, should, would, plans, expects, anticipates, continue, estimate, project, intend, likely, forecast, probable, possible, potential, assumes and other similar expressions. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected or anticipated. Such risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to continued funding of defense programs, the timing of such funding, general economic and business conditions, including unforeseen weakness in the company's markets, effects of continued geopolitical unrest and regional conflicts, competition, changes in technology and methods of marketing, delays in completing engineering and manufacturing programs, changes in customer order patterns, changes in product mix, continued success in technological advances and delivering technological innovations, changes in or in the U.S. Governments' interpretation of federal procurement rules and regulations, market acceptance of the company's products, shortages in components, production delays or unanticipated expenses due to performance quality issues with outsourced components, inability to fully realize the expected benefits from acquisitions and restructurings or delays in realizing such benefits, challenges in integrating acquired businesses and achieving anticipated synergies, changes to export regulations, increases in tax rates, changes to generally accepted accounting principles, difficulties in retaining key employees and customers, unanticipated costs…
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Gerry. Good afternoon, everyone and thanks for joining us. I’ll begin today’s call with a business update. Gerry will review the financials and guidance and then we'll open it up to your questions. Mercury continued to deliver strong results in the second quarter of fiscal 2017. Industry trends appear to be improving and our strategy is working. Our acquired and organic businesses performed extremely well and we came in at or above the high end of our guidance on all of our metrics setting several records along the way. Mercury's total revenues for Q2 grew 62% year-over-year to a record $98 million and we continued to deliver strong growth organically. Excluding the recently acquired CES business, revenues were up nearly 56% from Q2 last year. Our largest revenue programs in the quarter were F-35, Aegis, SEWIP, Filthy Buzzard and Reaper. Adjusted EBITDA was a record up 83% year-over-year and 23% of revenue well within our recently updated target financial model. This was also a record second quarter for total bookings and backlog and our 12-month forward revenue coverage continues to be strong. Our largest bookings in Q2 were SEWIP, Filthy Buzzard, F-35, PGK which is the Precision Guidance Kit for our artillery shells and Aegis. International defense bookings including our military sales were 10.1% of total bookings versus 9.6% in Q2 last year. As we begin the second half we're expecting fiscal 2017 to be another year of solid revenue growth both organically and at a total company level. Our content and market expansion growth strategies are working well. We are targeting what we believe to be the largest secular growth opportunity in the defense industry outsourcing by the major defense primes [ph] for that was previously done in-house. We're actually seeing an acceleration in outsourcing demand across the…
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Thank you Mark and good afternoon again everyone. Before I go through the financial results, I'll note that unless otherwise stated we will be discussing the company's financial results, comparison to prior periods and guidance on a consolidated basis. This includes the CES business we acquired in Q2 of this fiscal year as well as the LIT and Microsemi carveout [ph] businesses we acquired in fiscal 2016. Turning to our financials, Mercury delivered another very strong performance in the second quarter of fiscal 2017 as bookings, backlog, revenue and adjusted EBITDA all grew to record levels. At the same time, we completed yet another acquisition and expanding our addressable market and capability set. Overall it has been a great first half on a consolidated basis and organically. Total revenue for the second quarter increased $37.6 million to $98 million up 62% from Q2 last year and exceeding the top end of our guidance of $91 million to $95 million. Excluding the impact of CES which we acquired on November 4, 2016 organic revenues would have been $94.1 million an increase of $33.7 million or 55.8% year-over-year. International revenue including foreign military sales was 15.3% of total revenue compared with 21% in Q2 of last year. Revenue from radar and electronic warfare together accounted for 67% of consolidated total revenue compared with 82% a year ago. The lower proportion reflects the larger and more diverse revenue mix for the quarter resulting from the addition of several new businesses and the associated expansion of our addressable market and revenue base. Radar revenue was up 51% year-over-year while electronic warfare revenue grew 6%. Mercury's total bookings for the second quarter were $108.5 million up 140% from $45.2 million in Q2 last year, yielding a strong book-to-bill ratio of 1.11. We ended the second…
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Operator
Operator
Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from the line of Jason Gursky with Citi. Please proceed.
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Jason Gursky
Analyst · Citi. Please proceed
Hi good afternoon everyone.
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Hi Jason.
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Jason Gursky
Analyst · Citi. Please proceed
Mark can I start with the question for you? As you have had an opportunity here to reflect on the new administration, could you talk a little bit about the potential for policy reform or procurement reform that might be coming down the horizon and what would be good for Mercury and what would be a bad outcome, if we were to see some procurement reform?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Sure. So I don't think we expect a significant change overall in terms of the focus on improving the affordability of the goods and services of the DoD procures. I think that is going to ensure just based upon what we've heard from President Trump and that ends up as we have said previously ends up actually being a catalyst for increased outsourcing because given our model, we're able to do things more quickly and more affordably than many of our customers are able to do things in-house. So yes, I think that is by far the primary driver. What could be a negative is if they decided not to focus on improving the overall affordability levels.
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Jason Gursky
Analyst · Citi. Please proceed
Okay, that is great. And then hi Gerry, just I was wondering given the recent acquisition whether you could update us on some relative ship set values for Mercury, specifically I would love to hear some updated thoughts on F-35 ship set content relative to F-18 and then ship set value on the very Navy ships just kind of rank order, where you have got the most content after the recent acquisition?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Sure. So we don’t typically comment Jason in terms of the ship sets values on any particular program or platform, but I think as we laid out at our Investor Day, we've been very successful not only expanding our addressable market which has gone from approximately $3.8 billion when we were simply a processing product provider at the Tier 3 level to today as we kind of moved into the RF marketplace and most recently with the acquisition of CES moving into more mission computing, avionics as well as platform management is that market on a global basis for just what we do is over $30 billion. If you go back to some of the examples that we gave at Investor Day, I think we have done a really good job taking either the investments that we've made internally in organic R&D or the acquired businesses and turning that into expanded content own different programs. So we talked at Investor Day about the Naval surface fleet and how we have gone from literally just providing the processing associated with the radar largely for domestic applications to now we're also providing capabilities for FMS. With SEWIP we moved into the electronic warfare suite. We now are providing capabilities for the signals intelligence on both of these platforms. We are involved in the C4I on programs such as the NMT which is the Navy Multiband Terminal and we continue to see opportunities as we made investments in our server class blade server architecture to moving to other parts of the compute architectures onboard. So I didn't directly answer your question in terms of the ship set volume, but the reason that our revenues are growing much faster than the overall industry average is because our strategy is working.
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Jason Gursky
Analyst · Citi. Please proceed
Okay. That's fair, thanks guys.
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Sure.
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from the line of Jonathan Ho with William Blair. Please proceed.
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Jonathan Ho
Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed
Hi guys, congratulations on the strong quarter. I just wanted to start out with the CES acquisition and is there any way that you could maybe help us with thinking in terms of the growth rate for that business and whether there's any seasonality either in the bookings, expenses or revenue for that business that maybe differs from your current business?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
So we obviously didn’t give up a ton of detail, it's a relatively small acquisition, so we don’t expect it to move the needle meaningfully through the year Jonathan. I guess couple of high points, CES is a profitable business, it's a growing business. We think it aligns pretty well with our overall sort of financial profile. As we said at the time of the acquisition, it is slightly dilutive on an as acquired basis to our adjusted EBITDA, but we also expect that there will be realizable synergies that will bring it into line with our operating model in the relatively short period of time. We generally look for things like that to happen within about the first year ownership. So we’ve take all of that by the way into account in issuing our guidance for the quarter and for the year, so that's why I was careful to highlight that where I was including CES and then distinguishing the changes in guidance both pre and post the acquisition. Did that help?
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Jonathan Ho
Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed
Yes, perfect. And then just in terms of the operating leverage that you're seeing in the model can you may be break it down for us a little bit more in terms of how much of this is coming from the cost synergies from prior acquisitions, how much from sort of the mix changes and sort of the royalties and then also thoughts in terms of how much additional leverage we can look for throughout the course of the year?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Sure so, I think Gerry talked about, the gross margins and just the impact that mixes had and will continue to a have in any particular period. We still think that the range that we’ve given in terms of our updated target business model is fine, but it can’t move around period-to-period. Yes, I think the benefits that we’re getting from an operating leverage perspective is as a result of our integration efforts which continue to go extremely well. As you know, we’re not a holding company. We are deeply integrating the businesses that we acquire from a channel and from a process and from a systems perspective and it’s really that, that is yielding the leverage that we've seen. And I think our belief is that we will continue to be able to grow our expenses at a rate that is slightly less than the overall top line, so we’ll continue to see some of that operating leverage manifest itself and as Gerry said in his prepared remarks, the integration activities is going well which is why we think that the second half will be stronger than the first.
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Just a little bit you will recall that at the beginning of the year we said we thought we could touch our updated i.e. stepped up 400 basis point target operating model as you heard from the guidance update that we just gave, we think we’re going to get into that model i.e. not just hit the 22 but somewhere in the 22% to 23% range for the year and that’s reflecting exactly what Mark talked about.
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Jonathan Ho
Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed
Got it and just one final one just qualitatively, I mean when we think about the new administration and some of the commentary that they have had specifically for prime contractors are you starting to see those primes come you more often is there sort of a tipping point which could maybe drive an acceleration in that interest level?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Yes so, I'm not sure whether it's directly related to the new administration because I think that is still obviously very early days, but as I said in my prepared remarks I think there are two really trends that are clearly more pronounced. The one is that we are seeing more outsourcing occurring and even in parts of our customer base that historically have tended to do more of the work in-house, which is a very encouraging sign overall. The second is what I described is really a flight to quality and our customers are really seeking to do business with a smaller number, more capable suppliers who are really focusing on affordability, higher quality as well as innovation and here Mercury is clearly one of those. I think it's like an old adage, never waste a good dancer. Yes we leaned into the period post sequestration and invested significantly in the business and I think that’s one of the reasons that we’re seeing the heightened activity level that I described in my prepared remarks.
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Jonathan Ho
Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed
Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from the line of Peter Arment with Baird Equity Research. Please go ahead.
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Peter Arment
Analyst · Baird Equity Research. Please go ahead
Hi, yes good evening guys. Nice results. Mark, could I just call out on the gross margin side specifically, really nice results this quarter, but we've seen kind of a lot of volatility if I think back over the last several quarters, I know its tied to a lot of the acquisitions and the mix. But what is the right way to think about, kind of margins in the second half of the year?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Yes, so I’ll take that one Peter. As we've said sometimes in the past the gross margin will tend to move around a little bit within the range we’ve established of 45% to 50% and that’s really driven largely by mix, some of which is offset in that mix by other changes down the OpEx line. So for example, higher and lower levels of customer funded R&D which will shift some of our costs up into the revenue and cost of goods sold line. So, we really think that it may not be the best way to look at the business tracking at the gross margin level and look more into the operating and adjusted EBITDA margins and there we’ve seen very steady progressive upticks over time and then of course the step function upward in our target model and that’s reason for that. We do see mix shifts, but even with those mix shifts and the little bit of spikiness by things like royally revenues which obviously would carry very high margin does tend to normalize over time up in way I'd like to say it is if you think about ranges 45% to 50% that we, on average will tend to hover around the middle of that plus or minus a point or 2 any quarter which is not as noteworthy as it might seem on its face.
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Peter Arment
Analyst · Baird Equity Research. Please go ahead
It’s very helpful and just follow-up on CapEx, so this year particularly the step up is there a way to think about kind of what’s maintenance CapEx for this, for the business because we’ve seen a lot of changes with the Microsemi Carve-Out and now CES?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Yes, so we haven’t forecasted CapEx to accept obviously to say what we thought it was going to be in Q3 which I did just update, but as we've noted it’s the spike or the uptick has been driven by several fairly distinct things. Obviously we’ve had some significant incremental addition through the various acquired business of each of which brings a little bit of CapEx with it. Generally speaking I would say the profile is similar to what we have done historically at Mercury on a propionate basis, but when we’re seeing separate upticks caused by investment in the acquisition synergies and the program that we initiated. And then we’ve accelerated some of that investment which has stacked it up and then of course we’ve mentioned the build out of the headquarters. So those are kind of the three factors acquired businesses, build out of the headquarters and acceleration on the synergies program that are really driving it, but nothing in the basic profile of the business has really increased its overall capital intensity.
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Peter Arment
Analyst · Baird Equity Research. Please go ahead
Got it and one last one Mark one for you just on the, the overall CR that's in place, it looks like expectations are that we're going to see that hopefully resolve in early April or at the end of March. If it lingers materially beyond that, is that - how is that affecting what you’ve allocated to your outlook?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Yes, we’ve got pretty good visibility. I think we’ve got strong forward revenue coverage, had a great bookings quarter, backlogs at record levels, so we feel pretty comfortable with the increased guidance that we gave Peter.
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Peter Arment
Analyst · Baird Equity Research. Please go ahead
Right, thanks. Nice results.
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from the line of Michael Ciarmoli with SunTrust. Please proceed.
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Michael Ciarmoli
Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed
Hey good evening guys. Thanks for taking the questions, real nice results. Mark, maybe can you just talk about, you talked about the design wins, you talked about this hit list I guess being the largest ever, can you give us a sense of may be what specific markets you’re seeing those design wins in, are you starting to see may be more of a penetration into that missile market which is going to be new and obviously an expansion for you on the Microsemi deal?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Sure, so it’s a number of things Mike. So, our two largest market segments today are radar as well as EW. We’re seeing increased investments in both of those areas. So seeing that shift from the older type radars to the more user type radars, we’ve done a pretty good job capturing the secure processing content that shift occurs, we're also capturing more RF content on those radars which historically we haven’t done. We're seeing a significant uptick in EW which is driving growth in what was formally the Mercury Defense Systems segment which is the former core acquisition on the West Coast as well as significant growth in our RF businesses and that we anticipate continuing going forward. The third area, I think is you alluded to is also in the guided missile and precision munitions domain, obviously we are expending a lot of weapons based upon what is happening in [indiscernible] right now. So I think the stockpile has been depleted, at the same time we're seeing opportunities to insert new technologies and capabilities to deal with some of the more advanced threats we see occurring and we believe that we're very well positioned there whether it be adding secure processing to some of those missile systems, whether it would be adding some miniaturized EW capabilities or just more general RF capabilities. So those are the three major trends that we're seeing and the design win pipeline is very, very healthy right now.
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Michael Ciarmoli
Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed
Got it. Given that pipeline, given what you just said, should we expect this backlog to continue to grow through the second half of this year?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Well backlog is not something that we typically forecast Mike, but we're certainly hoping it will.
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Michael Ciarmoli
Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed
Got it. And then just if we were to look out at some of these big programs within the industry, JSTARS, the trainer, ground-based deterring three dealer. What I mean, you guys still have a lot of opportunities out there, a lot of radar, I mean, should we expect or how are you guys looking at some of those programs? Are they on that sort of hit list that you currently just referenced?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Yes some of the ones, all that you've mentioned yes for sure, yes we think we're well positioned with JSTARS, just given some of the investments that we have made in the very high performance processing that was recently tested at one of the government labs where we got very, very high marks. There are other programs that maybe less well known that again are going through tech refresh whether it be in radar or EW that potentially significant opportunities for Mercury that we're also pursuing. I mean, just this past week, we were notified that three new design wins in the RF dimension that are great wins, one of which is an outsourcing and two of which are competitive displacements. So we feel actually really good about how we are positioned from a capabilities perspective, the investments that we've made in manufacturing infrastructure and the automation is making us more affordable and I think we feel pretty good about how we're located right now, Mike.
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Michael Ciarmoli
Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed
Got it. And then just Gerry corporate tax reforms you guys got 35% tax rate, I would imagine that anything would be very beneficial to you guys because can you give us same color on how you're thinking about that?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Well, I think you kind of hit it. We are a corporate taxpayer. We are mostly U.S. based revenue. So we pay a pretty hefty load. So any discussion that I've heard about tax rates is that if it moves, it is going to move down which would certainly be a benefit to us. But we're not going to model that in and hope it's not a strategy, we will hope for it and if we get it that will just be a good thing.
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Michael Ciarmoli
Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed
Sounds good guys. Thanks a lot for taking the questions.
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Thanks Mike.
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from the line of Brian Ruttenbur with Drexel Hamilton. Please proceed.
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Brian Ruttenbur
Analyst · Drexel Hamilton. Please proceed
Yes, thank you very much. Couple of questions, I hear that the growth is going to come initially maybe in readiness programs and then we've also had conversations about FMS orders and growth happening there. Can you address both of those and what you're seeing on that front and if there has been any pick-up as of yet?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
You are talking about potentially where President Trump will put any increase in Defense money, is that the question Brian?
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Brian Ruttenbur
Analyst · Drexel Hamilton. Please proceed
The question is, do you have any indications that you're going to have increased spending on the FMS orders or is there going to be an easement? I know it's only a couple of days into the administration, but I didn't know if you've seen anything, I think you've run what is your normal percentage for FMS?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
So it has changed over the last year or so it was in the high teens maybe even the low 20s. But as we kind of acquired great diversity of programs is overall percentage that number has come down. I would say it's too early to tell in terms of the new administration. But as we have seen or as we have said previously, a lot of our major programs have got FMS sales associated with it. So yes, it's our customers succeed is they are seeking to penetrate those marketplaces, so we could drive along and one of the things that you are probably aware of is that there is an enhanced intensity on making sure that is we export our technologies overseas or also refresh our systems here domestically. The security is part of those refresh and so the emphasis and the investment that we've made on our next-generation secure processing product portfolio we think bodes well to help enable those sales to occur in a timely manner.
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Brian Ruttenbur
Analyst · Drexel Hamilton. Please proceed
Okay. And then in terms of readiness, do you have any exposure in there and would you see, anticipate to see any increase in spending or orders because of maybe increased strip levels on the readiness side?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Not really Brian. Yes I think the readiness side is not an area that we as a company have really participated in historically. From what I'm reading, it sounds like this may be one of the beneficiaries of increased spending could be the Navy and the Air Force and that transfer the majority of where our revenues are coming from today and we're obviously involved in some great programs there and are well positioned.
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Brian Ruttenbur
Analyst · Drexel Hamilton. Please proceed
Great, thank you very much.
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from the line of Ron Epstein with Bank of America. Please proceed.
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Ronald Epstein
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed
Hey, good evening guys.
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Hi Ron.
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Ronald Epstein
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed
Following up on one of the topics you were talking about, you mentioned in increased outsourcing that you're using from the Defense Primes, on the contracts that have been up for bid, can you give us a feel for what your win rate has been?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
It's a good question, it's hard to specifically say what our win rate is. I will tell you that literally as I said just a minute ago on three awards that we received last week. We haven’t actually received the PO yet but we've been notified, two of those were actually competitive displacements in the RF microwave domain into pretty important programs. So I think the way in which we're being viewed is that, is one of those more capable suppliers right. We've got a very high R&D spend, which is critically important to our customers that are seeking more technology. We've invested in the infrastructure in terms of the manufacturing assets to make us more affordable and to produce high quality. And then if I step back part of the business model that we have is because we are actually at the Tier 3 level and because we're a merchant supplier, we are actually in many instances able to bid concurrently with multiple primes as they are competing for the government's business. Now it doesn’t always work out that way, but wherever we can, that is certainly a strategy that we like to pursue.
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Ronald Epstein
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed
I mean it seems like there is some momentum gaining in this outsourcing space. Are you seeing any new competitors coming to the market?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
No and not, I think if anything we are seeing in the RF domain, a shift from the primes doing business purely on the basis of trying to get a better price to recognizing that the strategy is not the best way of improving affordability in the long term and so there is kind of a move in the other direction, a shift from simply trying to procure, through the procurement process better terms to partnering for success in the long-term which requires investments and requires much earlier level of engagement and that’s really what we are seeing. So we are seeing a shift in terms of just the supply chain strategies, but we clearly feel that it's actually benefiting Mercury based upon the strategy that we’ve been pursuing.
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Ronald Epstein
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed
Great and then may be just a more technical question for Gerry, when you think about the prospects of this change in tax code, if you can no longer deduct interest does that change how you think about doing M&A?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Well, I suppose it could as a theoretical matter you'd have to consider what the impact is as you know you're not operating like traditional private equity shop turning extremely high levels of debt. I think there are frankly a lot of things to consider there, not only debt levels and/or relative debt levels turns what are the effective interest rates, how do you balance that against the anticipated growth rates and what you think you can do with the business and then the deductibility the interest. So, I’d say it’s a multifaceted equation that is not susceptible to an easy answer, but you have to consider all the factors.
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Ronald Epstein
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed
Okay. I am done, now. Thanks guys.
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question will come from the line of Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies. Please proceed.
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Sheila Kahyaoglu
Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed
Hi, good afternoon guys.
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Hi, Sheila.
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Sheila Kahyaoglu
Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed
So, what’s the, I guess I don’t know if I missed it, but could you talk about the growth outlook for that business and may be if you could give us some color on, if there were particular platforms that were attracted with the acquisition or does it just add to your international portfolio?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
So that the business itself is actually, I’m looking to name the specific progress because unfortunately I think it’s not something that we can do at this time, but they have got some broad exposure to some wide body platforms. The heart of that business is that they are providing the computing elements for many of the tactical communication systems on platforms for large communications, defense electronics company based here domestically in the U.S. So, it actually got a very broad exposure with that particular focus area.
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Sheila Kahyaoglu
Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed
So it sort of puts you in I guess the cost pit a little bit further is that kind of where it is aiming to add like that?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Yes, so in the C4I mission systems segment is where they primarily play.
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Sheila Kahyaoglu
Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed
Okay, and I guess you had a fairly large contract in October on the precision munitions side and I guess I’m assuming that is a legacy Microsemi business is there an opportunity there to, I don’t know how much you can dispose but to add on to your legacy Mercury business in terms of new potential customer anything you could disclose on that order?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Yes, sure so the, the business that we acquired from Microsemi has got a strong position, in the guided missile and precision munitions marketplace. So their own programs such as Small Diameter Bomb II which as you know is going to be the one of the missiles that goes on to the F-35 that are on the Paveway which is obviously seeing increased growth just given the off tempo, but they’ve also got other pursuits as well and literally just in the last few weeks we have introduced them give then the strength of our channel into one of our major customers missile systems, divisions where they haven’t historically done any business and we’ve already uncovered a number of opportunities. So I do think that given the capabilities of the combined companies and the strength of our channel, this will continue to be an important area certainly one of the things that attracted us to the business that we acquired.
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Sheila Kahyaoglu
Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed
Right, thank you. And then I guess just a last one if you could give us any color on the blades have the opportunity and in terms of what you're seeing in your bookings or design wins?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Yes, so the blades overall opportunity we're excited about. We're seeing some pretty significant growth in the C4I market segment as well as actually in our processing product line. Yes it's still very early days. We just announced it at one of the major trade shows, but because it's a very unique product targeting a specific application, we do think it's a part of the business and it's going to grow in the long term. We've already won some specific business with it. A number of customers have requested access to the product to test in their various facilities and we think it's got some good growth potential longer term. And it is very much in line with the trend that we've in the more embedded applications where high performance, secure embedded processing is really what our customers are looking for and we come up with a pretty unique set of technologies and capabilities for that.
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Sheila Kahyaoglu
Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed
Sure, thank you very much.
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
You are welcome.
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our last question will come from the line of Keith Curtis with [indiscernible] Capital. Please proceed.
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Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Yes, hi. Just wanted to ask about the EBITDA contribution from CES and you broke it out for this quarter but I didn’t notice any breakout on the contribution and the updated guidance for the year?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Yes, that's correct. We didn’t break it out because as you probably know we're an integrator and we integrate the businesses relatively rapidly and once we start to collapse channel and collapse salesforce as well as some of the internal support operations the distinctions very quickly go away and it becomes rather difficult to figure out where and how to measure specific contributions. So that's why and we don’t expect that we'll be breaking it out in the future.
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Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Okay and just a followup on that, earlier in your prepared remarks I think you said something about EBITDA being diluted free synergies so just looking for clarification on that?
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Yes the EBITDA percentage that it brings in the door is a little bit lower than where the organic business is on day one, but we expect and we said this at the time of the acquisition as well that we would be able to lift them into alignment with ours in a relatively short term.
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Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Got it thanks for that.
MA
Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Sure.
OP
Operator
Operator
Thank you. And our last question will come from the line of Mark Jordan with Noble Financial. Please proceed.
MJ
Mark Jordan
Analyst · Noble Financial. Please proceed
Thank you. A question relative to R&D obviously with acquisitions that aren’t - quarter R&D spend has increased pretty significantly here and with the addition of CES for full quarter probably you would expect some growth. Looking out as a normalized run right favorably towards fiscal 2018 are there synergies in that member or should we assume that R&D as a percent of revenue is going to stay around that 12% range of revenue?
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Gerry Haines
Chief Financial Officer
Yes, so we expect over the long terms that we will maintain a run rate of 11% to 13% spend annually that we call for in our target business model. If you look back in recent periods we've sometimes been a bit higher than that but we continue to invest and what's happening is that the revenue is growing at a faster rate than the spend on the R&D overall. So we expect to settle right into that range. And frankly would seek to maintain it because we see it as a significant competitive advantage for us. We have differentiated ourselves through a variety of technologies. It is one of the reasons that as we've acquired businesses we've taken a close look at what their spend is and in some cases and we've highlighted this in the prepared remarks, we've set up spending plans that actually bring them into alignment with our overall rate of spend because again we want to be at the edge of those technology capabilities, particularly as we seek to integrate them into more subsystem integrated solutions that we are providing to our customers. So it has played out very well for us and we look to continue doing that as we go forward.
MJ
Mark Jordan
Analyst · Noble Financial. Please proceed
A final question from me. With the CES being acquired obviously a Swiss company you mentioned that they sell significantly into the United States. Have you looked through, is there any export issues that you might have where their customer base is either might be restricted given the fact that they are now a part of a U.S. corporation?
MA
Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
No we don’t think that there is anything negative in terms of how our ownership of them. We think if anything we can potentially open some market opportunities particularly over time and that's why we focus on what the addressable market is, not just what business they're doing today.
MJ
Mark Jordan
Analyst · Noble Financial. Please proceed
Okay, thank you.
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Sure.
OP
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Mr. Aslett, it appears there are no further questions, therefore I would like to turn the call back over to you for closing remarks, sir.
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Mark Aslett
Chief Executive Officer
Okay, well thank you everyone for joining the call this evening. We're very pleased with the results this quarter and we look forward to speaking to you again next quarter. Thank you.
OP
Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation on today's conference. This does conclude the program and you may all disconnect. Everybody have a wonderful day.