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Monro, Inc. (MNRO)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 30, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Monro, Inc.'s Earnings Conference Call for the Second Quarter of Fiscal 2025. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] And as a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and may not be reproduced in whole or in part without permission from the company. I would now like to introduce Felix Veksler, Senior Director of Investor Relations at Monro. Please go ahead.

Felix Veksler

Analyst

Thank you. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us on this morning's call. Before we get started, please note that as part of this call, we will be referencing a presentation that is available on the Investors section of our website at corporate.monro.com/investors. If I could draw your attention to the safe harbor statement on Slide 2, I'd like to remind participants that our presentation includes some forward-looking statements about Monro's future performance. Actual results may differ materially from those suggested by our comments today. The most significant factors that could affect future results are outlined in Monro's filings with the SEC and in our earnings release. The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. Additionally, on today's call, management's statements include a discussion of certain non-GAAP financial measures, which are intended to supplement and not be substitutes for comparable GAAP measures. Reconciliations of such supplemental information to the comparable GAAP measures will be included as part of today's presentation and in our earnings release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Monro's President and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Broderick.

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Thank you, Felix, and good morning, everyone. This morning, I'd like to share an update with you on our second quarter accomplishments. After that, I'll outline several objectives that we plan to achieve in the third quarter. Before I begin, I'd like to recognize and thank all of our teammates for their commitment to Monro and our customers. Turning to Slide 3, starting with our accomplishments in the second quarter. We drove a sequential improvement in our year-over-year comp store sales percentage change from the first quarter as well as a significant acceleration in our comp trends as the second quarter progressed. This gives us further confidence that our initiatives are taking hold. We like the progress, but we are just getting started. Importantly, our tire dollar and unit sales improved sequentially from the first quarter, and our tire category exited the quarter with year-over-year growth in units in the month of September. We continue to leverage the strength of our manufacturer-funded promotions, which allowed us to meet the needs of our value-oriented consumer. And although we continue to have more work to do to improve the performance of our higher-margin service categories, as shown on Slide 4, our ConfiDrive Digital Courtesy Inspection Process and our Oil Change Offer allowed us to drive sequential improvement from the first quarter in our service category sales as well as year-over-year growth in both battery units and sales dollars in the quarter. Additionally, we improved our attachment rate for alignments, which resulted in year-over-year growth in both alignment units and sales dollars in the month of September. Consistent with general industry trade-down dynamics, our gross margin in the second quarter was impacted by a value-oriented consumer that traded down more of their tire purchases to our Tier 3 offerings. And while this tire…

Brian D'Ambrosia

Analyst

Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Turning to Slide 5. Our year-over-year comparable store sales percentage change improved 410 basis points sequentially from the first quarter of fiscal 2025, resulting in sales of $301.4 million. Sales decreased 6.4% year-over-year, which was primarily driven by a 5.8% decline in comparable store sales. As Mike just walked through, we drove a significant acceleration in our comp store sales trends as the quarter progressed. For reference, comps were down 8% in July, followed by an improvement to down 6% in August, and we exited the quarter down 3% in September. While year-over-year tire units were flat in the second quarter, we exited the quarter with low single-digit growth in units during the month of September. We also gained tire market share in our higher-margin tiers in the quarter. Comp store sales in our 300 small or underperforming stores were consistent with our overall comp in the quarter. Turning to Slide 6. Gross margin decreased 40 basis points compared to the prior year, primarily resulting from higher material costs due to mix within tires and higher fixed occupancy costs as a percentage of sales, partially offset by lower technician labor costs as a percentage of sales. Total operating expenses were $93.2 million or 30.9% of sales as compared to $92.6 million or 28.8% of sales in the prior year period. The increase as a percentage of sales was principally due to lower year-over-year comparable store sales and an increase in advertising spend. Operating income for the second quarter declined to $13.2 million or 4.4% of sales. This is compared to $22.4 million or 6.9% of sales in the prior year period. Net interest expense increased to $5.1 million as compared to $4.8 million in the same period last year. This was principally due…

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Thanks, Brian. Our business has long-term durability in an industry that remains fundamentally strong. Our initiatives are driving an improvement in our top line results. This, along with our foundational progress to expand margins in the first half of fiscal 2025 as well as our cash flow generation will enable Monro to reap benefits as tire volumes continue to recover. We are poised to win with our scale, strategic relationships and our experienced management team. With that, I will now turn it over to the operator for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Thomas Wendler from Stephens, Inc. Thomas, please go ahead.

Thomas Wendler

Analyst

Hey, good morning everyone.

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Good morning, Thomas.

Brian D'Ambrosia

Analyst

Good morning.

Thomas Wendler

Analyst

I just wanted to touch on the American tire distributors bankruptcy filing. I think your contract with them requires you to purchase 90% of your tires and then you still have a $6.8 million earn-out from them. Can you just kind of give us an idea of the impacts there that you're expecting?

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Sure, Thomas. This is Mike. There is no impact right now, business is usual, and they're a big key to supporting us growing our tire category. So we have nothing to report anything differently than what's been filed. We're just acting as a great customer.

Thomas Wendler

Analyst

Okay. Yes. Thank you for that. And then kind of shifting gears, I think you mentioned a mix shift to Tier 3 tires during the quarter. Can you just give us an idea of where the tire mix shook out between the different tiers?

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Yes, sure. The Tier 1 and Tier 2 definitely shifted down to Tier 3. We grew approximately 30%. The industry also grew and it really shifted into Tier 3 and 30%. That's probably the biggest outlier when you look at the category. Nothing is really changed in the tire business. It's still -- the customers are trading down. I would say, without question, everything that we see, we're gaining market share in Tier 1 through 3, using our vendor -- vendors to support us with their promotions, and our teams are delivering against them. And the industry is still selling a lot of inexpensive tires at Tier 4. We are also participating in Tier 4. We're just doing it in a more balanced approach. I think it's good for units where we're showing that we're improving our units. It's good for protecting the ASP, and I think it's a better value for the customer all at the same time.

Thomas Wendler

Analyst

That was great. Appreciate you guys answering my question. Thank you.

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Lantz from Wells Fargo. David, please go ahead.

David Lantz

Analyst

Hey, good morning guys. And thanks for taking my questions. Can you talk about the buckets within gross margin in a bit more detail? And then any color you can provide around how to think about the second half would be helpful as well.

Brian D'Ambrosia

Analyst

Sure, David. If you look at the buckets, material cost was the biggest pressure in the quarter and drove the 40 bps decrease from the prior year. Tire margins were negatively affected by the trade down we just discussed from Tier 1 and 2 down to Tier 3. A secondary contributor to tire margins was just the way manufacturer rebates are landing. We had lower manufacturer rebates recognized in the quarter, primarily related to lower tire purchases over the last few quarters. And then also contributing to overall material margin pressure was the higher mix of tires relative to our service categories, especially brakes. Contributing also to the decrease year-over-year was 60 bps related to deleverage on occupancy costs on the lower sales. So occupancy costs were relatively flat versus the prior year, but on the lower sales value they de-levered. Offsetting that was -- partially offsetting that was 130 bps of technician payroll productivity, which we continue to see and deliver versus the prior year. As it relates to the back half of the year, without getting into specific kind of call for the back half, I can explain the forces that are at work. So when we think about material costs, we think the tire trade down persists. Consumer is going to continue to look for value. So that dynamic doesn't change in the back half. But we do expect related to the tire purchasing rebates that that will abate in the back half as our tire purchases over the last couple of quarters have been much more supportive to higher rebates in the back half. And then also, as we're making significant improvement in our service categories, and they're starting to close the gap in terms of performance year-over-year to tires, that will also be an abating headwind in terms of our overall mix between tire and service. We expect occupancy costs to improve as a percent of sales as we continue to deliver better top line, and we'll gain leverage on those fixed costs. And then as it relates to technician pay, as we've said for a while now, we continue to deliver good productivity, but we are starting to lap the good performance of the prior year. So we think technician productivity gains year-over-year will still be there. They'll just be diminishing in terms of the size relative to the prior year.

David Lantz

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then just for the overall business, could you talk about traffic and ticket trends in the quarter?

Michael Broderick

Analyst

David, it's Mike. The -- when you look at everything improved in the quarter, month over month over month. That's one thing and going into October, that's one thing, and it's across the board. We declared that we're going to get our tire business back, we got the tire business back. We're going to get our Oil business back, and we're going to get our Brakes business back, and we're seeing it in the results. When you look at the customers and what -- we were down approximately high-single digits, 9% in customer decline, and we did have some ASP to offset that.

David Lantz

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then last question for me. You paid down about $50 million in debt this quarter. So curious if you have any color on how to think through interest expense going forward?

Brian D'Ambrosia

Analyst

Sure. A lot of our interest expense is related to our financing leases. So that roughly $290 million of finance lease debt generates a good portion of that. But we are seeing reductions as we're bringing the debt down. We would expect in the back half of the year for interest expense to be fairly consistent with where it was in the prior year.

David Lantz

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Thanks David.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Bret Jordan from Jefferies. Bret, please go ahead.

Bret Jordan

Analyst

Hey, good morning guys.

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Good morning, Bret.

Bret Jordan

Analyst

On the ASP tailwinds, I guess, could you sort of give us some color? I mean it sounds like the Tier 3 tire shift would not be a tailwind to ASP, but obviously, real strength in batteries and maybe what do you attribute that to? And where did you see other price offset to the negative traffic count?

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Yes. I would say that it definitely -- the shift from Tier 1 and 2 down to 3 and 4 puts pressure on ASP. We are -- and we feel like that is -- that's a good guy coming -- moving forward into the quarter. I mean we've really reversed the significant traffic decline and tire decline in our organization, and we're going to be doing that across the board. I would say from a tire perspective, we're going to continue even though the marketplace is not that healthy, still not that healthy, I would say a lot of what we're doing at Monro is going to help us continue the tire trend. The second big part of the equation when you look at the service categories, I really like our batteries and how they're performing. I know I like the alignment business. The big call out really is all about wears brakes. And I would say that's the biggest opportunity. It's a big ticket item. So it's going to be something that we're really focused on.

Bret Jordan

Analyst

Okay. And I guess in October, how is the traffic versus price in that minus 1 comp?

Brian D'Ambrosia

Analyst

Yes. We're continuing to see the comp led by price mix, but with improving traffic trends.

Bret Jordan

Analyst

Okay. All right. Great. Thank you.

Brian D'Ambrosia

Analyst

Thanks Bret.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Brian Nagel from Oppenheimer. Brian, Please go ahead.

Brian Nagel

Analyst

Hey guys. Good morning.

Brian D'Ambrosia

Analyst

Good morning, Brian.

Brian Nagel

Analyst

So the question I have in, I just want to understand better kind of I guess, sort of the dynamic in the quarter between gross margin and top line. Because if you look -- I know you addressed this a bit already, but the gross margin, the trajectory shifted dramatically to the negative from what we've seen in the prior quarter. So I guess the question I have initially is, as we think about this improving, strengthening, solidifying top line trend is to some extent that coming at the expense of gross margin? And then as a follow-up to that, as we think about the business going forward, I mean, do you see a path towards simultaneous improvement in comps and gross margins? Or is there may be the -- would there be this ongoing trade off.

Brian D'Ambrosia

Analyst

I can address that, Brian. I think the first thing we have to recognize is the environment that we're operating in and that trade-down dynamics impact on our material margins, as well as the level of both manufacturer-funded and self-funded promotions that we're using to continue to attract and get guests into our stores to buy tires. So that is -- that macro backdrop is putting overall pressure at this period -- in this period of time on the overall material margins. Our path back to kind of those high 37%, 38% pre-COVID gross margins really relies on that dynamic improving. So there's not a trade-off between top line and our material margins, but there is a promotional trade down dynamic at work that's affecting it during this particular period of time. Also, at the same time, we're improving our service categories. So that's another lever where we see improved path towards higher gross margins. But in this particular quarter, with brakes down 12% and with tires only down 4%, that was a headwind to this quarter with another item that we expect in order to achieve those 38% gross margins, we need to continue to improve like the progress we made in the quarter and continue to make into October. And then ultimately, occupancy costs, to turn positive in terms of comps would take that 60 bps of occupancy cost of headwind and obviously turn it into a tailwind. So that's the way we think about the bridge up there. But it's certainly, I don't want to downplay the margin pressure created by the mix effect and the trade down that the value-oriented consumer is acting upon.

Brian Nagel

Analyst

That's helpful, Brian. And maybe just a follow-up to that then. So again, sorry for belaboring this. But if you look at, this was fiscal Q2; if you go back to fiscal Q1, so I think if I recall correctly, there was also an improving sales trajectory in that period. But then the gross margins were year-on-year, but stronger. So what changed -- what was the primary change then from -- in that dynamic from Q1 to Q2?

Brian D'Ambrosia

Analyst

Yes. The primary change, I would say, would be the material margins and the Tier 1 and 2 to Tier 3. So up until that point, we really hadn't seen is that much pressure on Tier 1 and Tier 2. We were really protecting a lot of our trade down to Tier 4 by having some really good Tier 3 offerings and trying to preserve that Tier 3 versus Tier 4 mix, which we did in the quarter. We grew Tier 1 through 3 relative to the industry. But at the same time, in the quarter, we saw Tier 1 and 2 trade down in the Tier 3. That was the primary difference between Q1 and Q2. And at the same time, we're starting to lap also the benefits of some of that technician pay improvement. So while that was a 240 basis point tailwind for us in Q1, that subsided to 130 in Q2, which was expected.

Brian Nagel

Analyst

Very helpful. I appreciate. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We have no further questions. So I'll now hand back over to Michael Broderick for closing remarks.

Michael Broderick

Analyst

Thank you for joining us today. This continues to be an exciting time to be part of Monro. We have a strong foundation to build upon to create long-term value for all our stakeholders. I look forward to keeping you updated on our progress. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for joining, everyone. You may now disconnect your lines.