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MannKind Corporation (MNKD)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 10, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the MannKind Corporation Second Quarter 2015 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, instructions will be given for the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded today, August 10, 2015. Joining us today from MannKind are President and CEO, Hakan Edstrom; and Chief Financial Officer, Matthew Pfeffer. I would now like to turn the call over to Matthew Pfeffer, Chief Financial Officer of MannKind Corporation. Please go ahead.

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

Good morning and thank you for participating in today’s call. I’ll discuss our financial results for the second quarter of 2015 as reported this morning, elaborate on the August 15 convertible notes strategy, and then address a number of key investor relations questions I received. I’ll then turn the call over to Hakan for a review of our Afrezza business and the company’s development portfolio, as well as an exciting announcement regarding our executive team. Before we proceed further, please note, that comments made during this call will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. It is possible the actual results could differ from these stated expectations. For factors, which could cause actual results to differ from expectations, please refer to the reports filed by the company with the Securities and Exchange Commission under the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934. This conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast August 10, 2015. We undertake no obligation to revise or update any statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. Now, turning to the financials, the net loss for the second quarter of 2015 was $28.9 million or $0.07 per share, compared to a net loss of $73.4 million or $0.19 per share for the second quarter of 2014, and $30.7 million or $0.08 per share for the first quarter of 2015. Total operating expenses declined $45.7 million compared to the same quarter in 2014, reflecting the commercialization of Afrezza in 2015 and reduced non-cash stock compensation expense. The slight increase of $2.4 million in total operating expenses for the second quarter of 2015 compared to the first quarter of 2015 is primarily due to increased product manufacturing cost in the second quarter of…

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

Thank you, Matt, and good morning. I will now transition to review and update on MannKind’s manufacturing operations, the Afrezza business, and MannKind’s development program plans. But let me begin with an exciting announcement regarding the MannKind’s leadership team. I’m pleased to announce Dr. Raymond Urbanski, has joined MannKind as Chief Medical Officer effective today. Ray, come to us within impressive clinical research and pharmaceutical industry expertise across oncology, cardiology, endocrinology and immunology. He’s led the development and approval of numerous new drugs and new indications across several therapeutic areas. And I’m confident, he will help accelerate our development efforts and do the same for us. Ray has held CMO roles at Mylan and Metabolix. Previously he was Vice President at Pfizer, and Vice President and CMO at Suntory Pharmaceuticals. He earned both his MD and Ph.D. in pharmacology and toxicology from the University of Medicine and Dentistry in New Jersey at New Jersey Medical School. Dr. Urbanski is a critical hire for us, as we aggressively move forward to exploit the Technosphere technology in new therapeutic areas. We are excited to welcome Ray to our team. Now, I will speak to manufacturing in our Danbury, Connecticut facility. As announced on July 31, 2015 production lines two and three have been successfully validated, increasing our production capacity and providing manufacturing redundancy to ensure supply to Sanofi. Concurrently in this effort we have completed all validation work in support of commercial manufacturing demand of the Afrezza 12 unit cartridge strength. This would allow us to cover a greater patient population, especially those who need a higher doses cartridge. And it will also minimize multiple inhalations for some patients. You will see this cartridge offering being introduced to the market by Sanofi during the next couple of months. And while I’m on…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Adnan Butt from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Adnan Butt

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. First, Hakan, that – product shipments have increased, MannKind also announced expansion of the Afrezza supply lines. Is that something that the companies are seeing, or is that part of a pre-agreed-upon expansion? Can you expand a bit on the rationale behind expanding supply?

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

Well, a part of it is certainly a critical component is to be able to start the manufacturing of the 12 unit cartridge. We needed to add a line beyond what we had. So from that point-of-view in building kind of the commercial capacity for us it was important to add these two lines to the existing line that we had.

Adnan Butt

Analyst

And can you – so would you be able to say anything more about the commercial efforts? Is the sampling program still ongoing and in terms of the supply, how much of the supply is going towards the sampling program?

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

I don’t have a specific number for you and the sampling program is certainly ongoing. And we are supplying the need from the sampling program’s point-of-view. So, yes, particularly since Sanofi decided to expand the target physician targets, so with those also to get them and get them familiar with the opportunity to try out Afrezza, yes, the sampling program is still underway, and it’s actually quite active.

Adnan Butt

Analyst

Okay. Just a couple more, and then I’ll get back in line. I think in the prior calls, it was mentioned that the pulmonary function test and scheduling the appointments was a gating factor. So how has that flow improved since the last update?

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

Yes, let me take that one, Adnan, because I recently saw presentation on that very topic from our partner.

Adnan Butt

Analyst

Okay.

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

So, it’s not an issue that’s completely gone away. But they track very closely the number of doctors who have this equipment, or have ready access to it, or they’ve set up some interesting programs to provide access to this kind of equipment, or this type of work quickly and easily and simply for the doctor. And based on the statistics they’re tracking now, while it’s not completely gone, the numbers were still an issue or small enough that it isn’t believe that it’s significantly impacting our sales. The sales get high enough and get pervasive enough, it may have to be readdressed, but we’re not quite there yet. So at this point, that doesn’t seem to be the issue that’s holding things up very much. It slows things down, but it’s not a blocking issue [Multiple Speakers] prescriptions.

Adnan Butt

Analyst

So, Matt, in your view, sorry, in your view at this time, the bigger hurdle is permanent formulary inclusion, or is it the PFG?

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

It seems to be insurance coverages is a bigger factor than they switch around. I think it started off the opposite and now it has become more insurance reimbursement issues. So the good news is, we’re right in the midst of – it’s a typical process that you don’t – as Hakan mentioned, you don’t see a review of these permanent formulary placement until, at least, six months and often 12 or sometimes even longer until that you get permanent formulary placement. So we’re kind of coming into that period. Now, most of the plants have not made that determination, but they should over the coming months, and that should make things simpler. We hope – we don’t, we can’t guarantee where we’ll end up in the formularies. But the current practices were a small number of plants don’t cover at all and the majority will put it into two or three, but require significant restrictions usually in the form of prior authorization is a big pain in the neck frankly for everybody concerned, and if we can ease some of those things, that will have a significant impact.

Adnan Butt

Analyst

And then lastly, when did the DTC campaign begin? And I think you mentioned it might be broadened, so what would be the scale of broadening it? Thanks.

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

Actually, I think what was said was, it would be – it’s going to continue. We have to be a little bit careful about what we say. It just started. It’s been in a few different publications, mostly print at this point. We have said there is money budgeted for TV production, but I won’t expect it to do at anytime real soon. It’s – we always – Sanofi was always pretty open that this was going to be a focused and stepped sort of process, and we’re kind of coming into step two with DTC and broadened sales force efforts and position targets and so forth. So we’re kind of coming into that second phase, it only started a few weeks ago. So certainly, we haven’t seen the impacts of it yet. But obviously and it could take some time yet, but we do expect to see those eventually.

Adnan Butt

Analyst

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Cory Kasimov from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Brittany Duffy

Analyst

Hey, guys. This is actually Brittany in for Cory. Thanks for taking the questions. So I understand that you said the adoption of Afrezza, obviously, take time. Just curious what your thoughts are on when we can see an inflexion point? And then just wanted to get a sense of your thoughts on your current cash runway was only $28 million left under the Sanofi agreement? Thank you.

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

So, well, let me address that last one, because it kind of startled me when you said. We actually have quite a lot available under the Sanofi agreement. It was intended to go up to $175 million, which we thought at the time was an outlandishly high number. But clearly, we pick that, so people wouldn’t have any concerns that we would run out of cash under that agreement. So I’m not sure, where we confused you with the numbers. We’re just talking about what was outstanding about the total amount that was available. And I’ll leave the other part of the question to Hakan?

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

Yes, it’s hard to give you a specific inflexion point. I mean, certainly we’re doing, say, the DTC campaign right now and the expanded target in terms of an increased sales – the number of people on sales-force promoting Afrezza and going to more doctors. So hopefully that will translate into certainly a faster uptake by the patients and also if we can address more of the reimbursement issues and getting more – better and confirmed placements, that should accelerate. But I would say that you probably still are looking in, I would say, hopefully during the, say, late September through the end of the year you would see a significant uptick in terms of the uptake.

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

That’s always really hard to predict. We can see the factors that we think will cause that uptick you’re talking about, but translating that is when you see it in script numbers is a little harder, because we’ve already shown that there are factors in place that slow down the actual receipt and the filling of the prescriptions in our case, including spirometer requirement, which is we don’t see it preventing the prescriptions any longer. But it does still slow it down, so all these things tend to make it harder to predict exactly when you see that uptick. It could be faster or it could be slower. We’re obviously optimistic. A lot of it will also depend on the degree to which words spreads and the fantastic results people are seeing become more widely known which could accelerate it. So there’s a lot of wildcards here, then – we’re keeping our fingers crossed and hoping it’s sooner rather than later obviously.

Brittany Duffy

Analyst

Yes, that’s helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Jay Olson from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Jay Olson

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I had a few. Starting off with the product shipments, you had $7.1 million of Afrezza shipments in the first quarter, and $5.9 million of shipments in the second quarter. Can you just help us understand why it declined? Was there some initial stocking that took place in the first quarter? And I’m assuming that those product shipments are mostly going toward samples. Does it mean that Sanofi is giving out fewer samples?

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

No, I think it’s exactly what you said, Jay. Obviously, we needed to fill the channels initially, so we filled them up and including a lot of samples which were delivered, for the most part, upfront, and then it becomes more of normal course replenishment.

Jay Olson

Analyst

Okay. And then just on the refinancing, you spoke about offering certain bondholders conversion to equity. Can you talk about what percent of those bonds would – or have been today converted to equity?

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

No, I think it’s premature, because we’re right in the middle of it, and I don’t want to jinx the process by saying anything prematurely. Once it’s completed, we’ll be in a position to be more specific about that.

Jay Olson

Analyst

Okay. And then, thanks to Hakan for the additional color on the development work in your pipeline. It sounds like pulmonary hypertension is the lead program and you mentioned it would take six months to get into animal models. How long should we think about it taking to get into clinical studies? And when might we expect you sign a partnership for that program?

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

Oh, well, this gets into, say, qualified guessing. I would say and certainly this is why I certainly welcome Ray Urbanski onto our team, because he can certainly help us make a much better assessment. But I would assume that after we’ve done the initial component, I mean, I would hope that within the next, say, 12 months, so maybe about 18 months from now, we would be in some type of clinical assessment of the product. And the reason I mentioned that first, this was one of the programs that came out of the kind of major undertaking we did with a consulting company in looking at areas and came out of that one. And the API is readily available; it’s in-house. So from that point-of-view, yes, we’ve been able to pursue that aggressively and we’ll certainly continue to do so.

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

Yes, Jay, the only thing I would add is maybe correcting a little bit your statement, has that been the lead program, I think that’s – I’m not sure that’s a fair characterization. In some ways it perhaps is, but if you note from Hakan’s remarks, the other program in pain has actually been in animals already, so it’s a bit ahead in that regard. But that one is a little different because we have multiple APIs we’re evaluating. We haven’t selected one yet and all of us coming from that animal model preclinical, pre-human work, but that’s already underway.

Jay Olson

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Keith Markey from Griffin Securities. Please go ahead.

Keith Markey

Analyst

Good morning and thank you for taking the question. I was just wondering if you can tell us a little bit about your Sanofi’s plans for expanding Afrezza into international markets?

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

Oh, Keith, I’m actually really glad you asked that question, because we get that one a lot too. I can’t be terribly specific, but I can tell you that this is a very active area of discussion and investigation for them. They have spent a lot of time and probably a lot of money, although I haven’t seen those members, doing market research in the various countries of the world. And they’re really intending to do this as a global marketing plan as opposed to picking out an area like I get – we get a lot of questions about Europe, for example. They want to look at Europe in the context of the whole world. And so, that work is underway, it’s nearly the completion we understand, and it’s anticipated to be presented to us at our next during Afrezza committee meeting. So we’re all looking forward to that as well. But I think we get a lot of inquiries about it. I know, they’re interested in as well. So we’ll have to stay tuned. I can’t give you specifics at this point, except to make sure you it’s something we’re all looking forward to.

Keith Markey

Analyst

Thank you. And I had one other question. I was just wondering, not too long ago, some of the larger players that have already established in the diabetes space created or signed deals with some of the insurance companies regarding exclusive rights to – for their formularies. I was just wondering has that posted much of an issue for Afrezza in getting listed on the formularies so far, or do you anticipate that being a problem?

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

Well, Keith, I feel like I might be able to answer your questions very forthrightly. We know it clearly is an issue. I know that – I don’t want to tip our hand too much, but I know Sanofi has some strategies for dealing with that. And given that most of the larger players haven’t come to decisions, I’ll see how successful they are. But, yes, it certainly is an issue, we’re aware of it, and we have strategies to deal with it and stay tuned.

Keith Markey

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Shaunak Deepak from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Shaunak Deepak

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to know a little bit more about Sanofi’s efforts to increase marketing? And if you could provide a little bit more about the decile of prescribers that they are looking to reach with their current sales force?

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

Yes, basically, initially, the target was endocrinologist and I mean, very, very, kind of high, say, diabetic prescribers in kind of general physician community. I think we’ve demonstrated to them and they’ve also realized that, we’ve been contacted by the number of patients that have been trying to obtain Afrezza prescriptions with their physician and their physician based on, say, the profile and their prescribing have – may not have been part of the target group. So this is a way to expand the reach out to more physicians to more kind of GP-type, again, higher prescribing physicians in reaching out. So that is ongoing right now and there’s actually also a specific plan in place by Sanofi in bringing their people together to further put emphasis around this one. So that’s as much as I can say at this point in time.

Shaunak Deepak

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. And then just on the DTC effort right now, I was wondering if like what we’ve seen so far in terms of the print advertisements and publications you guys are reaching, if that’s something which we should consider reflective of like DTC effort for the foreseeable future before a possible ramp up into television and so forth?

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

Well, I’m going to try to answer that. I guess broadly, yes, but I mean, I’m not going to run the same answer over and over every time. They – I mean, they’re pretty good at the stuff and they have a lot of interesting plans, and I think it would be a mistake to talk about them in too much detail in it.

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

Yes. I mean, it certainly is a significant DTC effort over a number of media, whether it’s magazines, online and other approaches. So it is a significant batch of programs and activities that you will see, I would say, over the next quarter, before any type of, say, TV would be considered. The decision there by the, say, joint management team is that the investment into producing a, say, commercial would be taken right now, and then eventually they will have to sit down and make a determination of when it will be appropriate to utilize that as part of the promotional programs.

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

And I’m really glad Hakan mentioned the online stuff, because that’s often overlooked and maybe underemphasized, but that’s a really important area to focus in, and I know Sanofi is very active there. And I want to – if you haven’t seen already, you will start to seeing that more and more, because these days, people rely on online things to find this kind of information much more than they used to. So it’s a huge focus area. It isn’t as visible as, say, a three page spread in Time magazine; it’s easy to point you. But it’s one of the bigger areas we’re focusing on.

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

Right, right, great. And also as I had mentioned, it is targeted by – in some of the doctor’s office, as you sign in, you basically are entering a kind of an electronic kind of registration process. And there again, Sanofi is out right now in, say, producing, say, promotional messages as part of that one. So there is – even in the doctor’s office there is the reminder of the fact that patients, hey, there is a new approach here, that you might be able to address in terms of dealing with your diabetes. So they are, I would say, playing on many different instruments in trying to reach both physicians and patients?

Shaunak Deepak

Analyst

All right. Well, thanks for the color.

Matthew Pfeffer

Analyst

Thank you, Shaunak.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Hakan Edstrom for closing remarks.

Hakan Edstrom

Analyst

Right, right, well, thank you so much for listening this morning as you hopefully will hear that we are aggressively pursuing certainly both the Afrezza part of our business which is certainly very, very critical; and we are encouraged by the efforts that being put forward by Sanofi in bringing that to a really successful – not really conclusion, a successful going forward into the future; as well as the – or now much higher emphasis on the new product development components utilizing the Technosphere platform; and the hiring of Dr. Urbanski, which I see as a significant component. And we will continue into recruiting significant staffing in that level to further up the opportunity. So with that I would like to conclude today’s call and thank you for you – thank you for listening in. Goodbye.