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Merit Medical Systems, Inc. (MMSI)

Q1 2021 Earnings Call· Fri, Apr 30, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call for Merit Medical Systems Inc. Please note, that this conference call is being recorded and that the recording will be available on the company's website for replay shortly. I would now like to turn the call over to Fred Lampropoulos, Merit Medical Systems' Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Thank you, and welcome everyone to Merit Medical Systems First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. I'm joined on the call today by Raul Parra, our Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer; and Brian Lloyd, our Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary.

Brian Lloyd

Management

Thank you, Fred. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that this presentation contains forward-looking statements that receive Safe Harbor protection under federal securities laws. Although, we believe these forward-looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions, they are subject to unknown risks and uncertainties. The realization of any of these risks or uncertainties, including the unpredictable effect of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic as well as extraordinary events or transactions impacting our company could cause actual results to differ materially from those currently anticipated. In addition, any forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today, April 29, 2021, and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any other date. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update such statements, except as required by applicable law. Please refer to the section entitled cautionary statement regarding forward-looking statements in today's presentation for important information regarding such statements. Please also refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ from these forward-looking statements. Our financial statements are prepared in accordance with accounting principles which are generally accepted in the United States. However, we believe certain non-GAAP financial measures provide investors with useful information regarding the underlying business trends and performance of our ongoing operations and can be useful for period-over-period comparisons of such operations. This presentation also contains certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable US GAAP measures is included in today's press release and presentation furnished to the SEC under Form 8-K. Please refer to the sections of our presentation entitled non-GAAP financial measures and notes to non-GAAP financial measures, for important information regarding non-GAAP financial measures discussed on this call. Readers should consider non-GAAP financial measures in addition to, and not as a substitute for financial reporting measures prepared in accordance with GAAP. Please note that these calculations may not be comparable with similarly titled measures of other companies. Both today's press release and our presentation are available on the investors page of our website.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Thank you, Brian. Let me start with a brief agenda of what we will cover during our prepared remarks today. I will start with an overview of our revenue performance in the first quarter, including the business trends we experienced during the quarter and the areas of our business that performed well despite the challenging operating environment. I will then provide an update on our operating progress and highlights during the first quarter. After my opening remarks, Raul will provide you with a more in-depth review of our quarterly financial results and the formal financial guidance for 2021 that we updated in this afternoon's press release, as well as a summary of our balance sheet and financial condition. And then, we will open the call up for questions. Now beginning with a review of our first quarter revenue performance, we reported total GAAP revenue of $249 million in quarter one up 2.2% year-over-year. Our total GAAP revenue growth was driven, primarily by a 4.9% growth in international sales and a 0.2% growth in US sales. Our US sales growth was driven by low single-digit increases in sales of both our peripheral intervention and cardiac invention products, which offset low single-digit declines in sales of our CPS and OEM products. Our International sales increased 4.9% year-over-year in the first quarter, all of which was driven by the benefit of changes in exchange rates compared to the prior year. Sales to international customers declined 0.5% year-over-year on a constant currency basis. Excluding FX benefits, our international sales results were driven by high single-digit growth in sales of our peripheral intervention products and mid-single-digit growth on sales of our OEM products, which offset declines in sales of our CPS and cardiac intervention products, compared to the year ago period. Total first quarter revenue increased 0.6% year-over-year on a constant currency basis, reflecting the benefit of our GAAP revenue results as a result of changes in exchange rates compared to the prior year period. Our constant currency growth results were notably better than the expectations, we provided on our quarter four call, which called for Q1 constant currency revenue to decline 6% year-over-year. Our constant currency growth performance was driven by a 0.7% growth in sales of our cardiovascular products, which partially offset by 1.2% decrease in sales of our endoscopy products compared to the prior year. Importantly, while our constant currency sales increase was only modest, we are pleased to return to year-over-year growth for the first time since the first quarter of 2020.

Raul Parra

Management

Thank you, Fred. Given Fred's detailed review of our revenue results, I will begin with a review of our financial performance across the rest of the P&L. For the avoidance of doubt, unless otherwise noted, my commentary will focus on the company's non-GAAP results during the first quarter of 2021. We have included full reconciliations from our GAAP reported results to the related non-GAAP items in our press release this afternoon. Gross profit increased approximately 4% year-over-year in the first quarter. Our gross margin was 49.2% compared to 48.5% in the prior year period. The approximate 80 basis point increase in gross margin year-over-year was primarily due to changes in product mix as well as decreased obsolescence expense and improvement in manufacturing efficiencies on higher volume. The first quarter operating expenses decreased 4% year-over-year. The year-over-year decline in operating expense was driven by a 6% decrease in SG&A expense, offset partially by a 9% increase in R&D expense compared to the prior year period. The reduction in SG&A expenses were a result of lower compensation expenses as a result of reduced head count from cost-cutting initiatives in 2020 and lower discretionary spending as a result of reduced travel, training, and shows, and conventions during the COVID-19 pandemic. The increase in R&D expenses was largely due to increased outside expenses for certain R&D projects and particularly, related to WRAPSODY and increased compensation expense related to acquisitions of KA Medical and other new projects. Note, while we were pleased with our operating expense performance in the first quarter, our expenses did benefit from some modest timing-related delay in selling and marketing spend and our investment in our WRAPSODY clinical study for a partial period in Q1. Both of these dynamics will result in a sequential uptick in operating expenses in the second…

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

It's a lot of information Raul, and I think very well presented. Thank you very much. And before we open the call for questions, I wanted to review the important considerations and key assumptions for the investment community to bear in mind as they evaluate our 2021 revenue guidance. We have two items to call out as contributors to our 2020 revenue results that represent material headwinds to the growth rate of our guidance, which is assumed for 2021. We also have a key assumption impacting our 2021 revenue expectations over the second half of 2021. Let me provide some additional color. Regarding the two areas that represent headwinds to our 2021 revenue growth expectations, first, as discussed on prior calls and disclosed in filings during fiscal year 2020, we announced strategic decisions to exit three businesses in 2020: the suspension of Merit's distribution agreement with NinePoint Medical in quarter one of 2020; the disposition of assets related to the manufacturing of Merit's Hypotube product in August 2020; and most importantly, the closure of the ITL Healthcare procedure pack operations in Australia in December of 2020. Together these businesses contributed revenue of approximately $11.1 million during the fiscal year 2020 and will not contribute to our revenue results in 2021. Second, our 2020 revenue results benefited from the sales of the Cultura nasopharyngeal swab and test kits used to test and collect transport samples of COVID-19, testing which we developed manufactured and distributed beginning in the second quarter of 2020 in response to the critical need as a result of the COVID pandemic. The Cultura swab initiative was a direct response by our organization to help the State of Utah and other states, and prepare for the swab shortage in April of last year, and we quickly directed resources to…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. And our first question coming from the line of Jayson Bedford with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

Good afternoon guys, and thanks for taking the questions.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Hey, you’re welcome, Jayson .

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

So I got on the call a little late so I apologize if these have been covered. Just on the guidance very strong 1Q that exceeded your guidance, you've integrated the full year. So I'm just wondering is there anything out there that you can point to as a reason for not raising guidance, or is this more reflective of the overall caution given the dynamic world we're living in these days?

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Yes. Well I'll comment brief and then let Raul weigh in if he wants to. But we still have this pricing issue that's unresolved in China. We don't know how that's going to shake out, and so that's part of it. There's still some hotspots out there. And so I think Jayson, it's just -- we're confident in our full year confident in that. And I think we were just -- that confidence remains. Business is improving as we discussed, but it just seems to be a little bit early with those potential headwinds out there and without that knowledge to move it up. And it's only the first quarter. I think we'll reevaluate it in the second quarter as we're able to look at how the business progresses. Raul?

Raul Parra

Management

Yes. Jayson, I think I'll just start off with saying we're really excited how Q1 panned out. We're excited about our -- feel really confident in our guidance for the year. I think really kind of came down to is we got off to a slow start for the beginning of the quarter. First couple of months, we're kind of in line with our original guidance that we had given. And then we just saw a really, really good March. And so I think what we want to do is just let's see how the rest of the quarter plays out. At the end of the second quarter, we can kind of evaluate where we're at and update guidance if we need to. But for now there's just -- still some choppiness and we want to see some more consistency before we move on from that.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

Have trends in April differed from the trends you saw in March?

Raul Parra

Management

So we gave some Q2 color. I think that's kind of where we're going to leave it at. Obviously, if you look at kind of what -- that guidance, I think you'll see that it does show no improvement, but we'll leave it at that.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

Okay. And last one and then I'm sure there's others that want to get in. When do you expect to hear about the, let's call it, the at-risk China tender the one that's impacting 11 12 months of your guide, or what's the time line on that?

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Yes. So those tenders open up in the third quarter, early third quarter. So I mean, we'll start to get a feel for it. There's – we haven't had any indications of anything at this point. But again, as we discussed in the fourth quarter and on this call, there's that risk out there and we thought it much better to point that risk out. And again, as we all know, if it happens, we think we have a number that might be a reasonable number, if not, then it's to the benefit of the business. So we – again we still stand by the fact that it needs to be there until we see otherwise. And again, as you know and we'll recall, it was really based on some trends and some other issues that you're seeing out there and with some other companies and things we were following. Maybe we avoid it, maybe we don't. But nothing – I don't have anything that would indicate today one way or the other. I think that's really the point I want to make Jayson.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Steven Lichtman with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

Steven Lichtman

Analyst

Thank you. Hi, guys. So let me first, Fred if you could talk a little bit about WRAPSODY in Europe. I know you mentioned some early data. But I'm wondering if you could just talk about the progress of WRAPSODY rollout in Europe overall.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Yes. Well listen as you all know, and everybody follows this every day, Europe is very choppy. Now there was some announcement. This was on the news today that there are certain places that are going to open up. And this – and other places are still hot. So we are selling the product. I think maybe a bigger indicator is just this evening, we were part of a symposium sponsored by the British Society of Interventional Radiology and we had approximately 130 physicians on this call. I was told that this involvement, this participation was higher than anything that they had recently. So I think it shows the interest in the product. It's being sold. We're getting new orders almost every day. But again, it's going to take a little bit more time to get this open back up, so we have more access. And I will say this also Steve is that, there's more access in the US than there is in Europe. It's still – and I think I've discussed this on other calls, but I haven't – if I haven't we're seeing right now, I'm going to use this kind of as a general number of about 50% of our sales reps can get access to hospitals. They can show products. They can do this now 50%. And that's up by the way dramatically. It's almost doubled from the previous quarter. In Europe, it's at best, 25%. So it's about half of that access. And that comes from kind of almost zero. So again, these are our numbers that are anecdotal but they're coming from reports that come from our sales force. So it's improving but – the access in Europe. But to go to the base of your question, we're selling the product. Maybe what's even more exciting is when you see people that have ordered in the past reordering. And as you know reorder is almost as important, if not more important than making that initial sale. So, I'm fine with where we are. I'm fine with the technology. I think it's still going to be everything we hope for. It's just playing itself up. And then of course as we announced in the prepared comments, we've now opened up of course the US trial. And as that starts to unwind we get more hospitals in there. We're going to see that trial move along. At the end of the day, when we get that done, it's going to be two or three years. But again, our enthusiasm for the WRAPSODY has not changed at all. And if anything, I would say, it has improved.

Steven Lichtman

Analyst

Great. Great. And then just free cash flow, obviously continues to impress. I guess given that and where your leverage ratios are, are you thinking about increasing M&A, tuck-in M&A at all, or – just wondering, what you're thinking about in terms of use of cash and to what the landscape is out there.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Yes. As we previously said, when we generate that cash, we're paying down our debt. I think you – I think you said this Steve that the – we have a very strong balance sheet and we're very capable. We're out looking. There are things that come to us. I think you have to be very disciplined in this market. You have to buy right. You have to look right. So we're there and we're actively looking around and things are coming our way and considering things but nothing of course to talk about. But again, I want to remind everybody of the discipline in the selective. And the important thing and maybe the whole question is we don't have to do anything. We're not forced to do it so we can grow. We have a full pipeline of R&D projects. As these markets open back up, things will get back to normalization. And – but if the right thing comes along, we'll be prepared to move.

Steven Lichtman

Analyst

Great. And then just lastly I apologize, if you mentioned this. I know you're keeping the sort of conservatism on the potential China tenders. When do you think you'll get visibility, as to whether those are in place or not? Obviously, I know you've already built it into guidance but just wondering on that.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Yes. It's the question of the day. We know that they'll go out in Q3. Remember, it's done province by province. So it's like dealing with each state almost. You get – these guys will do it, you'll get this in. So we'll start to have some visibility as we go into the third quarter, because we know the tenders go up from lots of things. It's not just our products or a lot of products but it will play itself out in the third quarter.

Steven Lichtman

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Fred.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

All right. Thank you, sir.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Matthew O'Brien with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Matthew O'Brien

Analyst

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question guys. One for Raul and then probably one for Fred. But Raul for starters, the gross margin adjusted in the quarter was really good but you're sticking kind of with the full year outlook for that metric. So can you talk about some of the benefits that you saw there? And then why would we kind of go back to the midpoint of the range you provided versus kind of the higher end based on what we saw in Q1?

Raul Parra

Management

Yes. Look I think as we noted product mix was -- I'm looking at it more sequentially quite frankly Matt, if you look at kind of where we came out of the fourth quarter. But the reality is we have good product mix. Our obsolescence expense was less. And then obviously with the volume that's helping also. So I think we feel comfortable with our guidance for the year and our - I think the gross margin quite frankly was kind of where we expected it. So... Q – Matthew O'Brien: Okay. Okay. Sounds like you're being somewhat conservative which is understandable. And then Fred the peripheral business I know we all want to talk about the different segments here. But if you go back to 2019 and the Q1 performance there you grew nicely in the peripheral business off of 2019. I know '20 is a little bit more challenging to look at. But that chunk of the business is doing quite well. Can you just talk about some of the dynamics that are assisting that business and how we should think about the trajectory for peripheral over the course of this year and even the next couple of years? Thank you.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Yes. I don't have that -- the numbers Matt in front of me to -- but I will just say generally as you know in our research and development, we focused on that market which is highly fragmented and one that we've invested in for years. So if you look at products like the Surfacer, you look at products like the WRAPSODY, you look at embolics, you look at all these things the SCOUT, you take a look at microcatheters, those are the areas that are getting a lot of interest. And those are the areas that Merit continues to invest in probably heavier than some of the other areas just simply because of the opportunity. So I think it's been more of a company focus. Now all of that being said, as these markets open back up we have a lot of electrophysiology products and other things that will be coming to the marketplace that would go over on the cardiac side. But clearly peripheral has been an area of interest in development and investment for quite some time and we'll continue to do so. Q – Matthew O'Brien: Okay. Thank you.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Thank you sir.

Operator

Operator

Next question coming from the line of Mike Matson with Needham. Your line is now open.

Mike Matson

Analyst

I guess first I wanted to ask about WRAPSODY. The -- just curious if you had an estimate of the cost of the PMA trial in the U.S. and kind of the timing that that will be incurred in and what that sort of means for your R&D spending as a percentage of sales.

Raul Parra

Management

Yes. So if you remember our guidance at the beginning of the year or last quarter Mike we actually included that and it's one of the reasons why our R&D expense is going up. So I won't talk to the actual dollars of the actual study, but it is baked into our guidance. Some of that was delayed I guess in Q1, so we'll start to see additional expense in Q2 for it. But again, I'll just keep it high level and just say that it is included in our guidance and it's part of the reason why our R&D expense is growing.

Mike Matson

Analyst

Okay. All right. And then very strong quarter from operating margin perspective and some of that I guess is due to the continued savings from reduced travel and conferences and things like that. So how should we think about the ramp-up in OpEx over the next few quarters? And do you think you'll get back to full kind of pre-COVID levels there, or is there any kind of permanent savings we could see?

Raul Parra

Management

Yes. So we do expect an uptick in operating expenses for Q2. I think we talked about that in our opening statements. But as far as our non-GAAP operating expenses we do expect modest increases year-over-year. Obviously there is some savings that we plan on keeping, but there's also investments we're making such as the WAVE study as we talked about.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

And Mike, I think you asked when you go back to normal and the answer is partially. There are going to be things -- in fact we've met several times this week in terms of some office issues and consolidation and things like that. And in those issues, we will continue to have a number of people continue to work at home as an example. I think we discussed this in the conference we were in, but our entire customer service department is working at home. Interestingly enough, at higher levels of efficiency, the customer satisfaction the surveys we've done have shown us that these are things that are continuing to be helpful. And in fact what we did this week is reallocated that space for other areas and moving to make it more efficient internally for departments to meet. I won't go into all of the details, but we're reallocating. And the reason I'm saying this is, your question was do you expect to go back to normal? And the answer is nothing at Merit is going back to normal. There are modifications, and efficiencies, and businesses, and SKU rationalization all the things we've talked about as part of our Foundations for Growth. I mean those things are a high priority. And some of those are now just beginning. Remember we worked all of last year a good portion of the year at least six months of that evaluating and assessing and planning and those things are starting to go and that plan is for three years. So I think that momentum and the things we're doing there would tell us that things are not going to go back to what would be considered normal and past performance. So we believe that we'll continue to improve the business across the board as we have promised to do so. And you've seen that in our plan of course. So I don't want to get too much on the soapbox but it's pretty important to us.

Mike Matson

Analyst

Its important to us. That's helpful. And we'll all be happy if the costs are lower than normal and the revenue and EPS are higher than normal.

Raul Parra

Management

I think we agree.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Anything else Mike?

Mike Matson

Analyst

Okay. I'll stop.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Okay. All right.

Operator

Operator

The next question coming from the line of Larry Biegelsen with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Shagun Singh Chadha

Analyst

Thank you for taking the question. This is Shagun in for Larry. I was hoping you could talk about the impact from new product launches. I believe a number of products -- you couldn't launch a number of products during COVID. So how significant is that backlog of new products? And then, Fred you recently hired a Chief Strategy Officer that you mentioned briefly on the call. That's a new role. So can you talk a little bit about why you added that role, what Rob brings to the table and how you're thinking about succession planning? Thank you for taking the question.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Yeah. Thank you. So let's go back to the new products. I think one of the encouraging signs of what we believe is the early stages of recovery of the industry is some of the products that we introduced essentially stalled. You introduced them and then hospitals locked down, elective procedures locked down. But what we've seen is those products come back to life. And by that I mean we're getting orders with increased access that we talked about just previously to a comment a few minutes ago. We're starting to see that those products are good products, interesting and are things that fill into the areas again that we talk about peripheral and cardiac and so on and so forth. So -- but it's still very, very early and all of these products and more to be launched. But I think the key part to all of this is the fact that we didn't stop our development of new products and that we will continue to see the benefit of that as we go forward as part of our overall growth strategy. Now, let me go to the individuals. I think you can read in there -- in the parts that are in the press release this is good people, experienced people. It's part of our succession planning. It's part of being able to build a base of experience of talent going forward in our business. These are guys that have experience or helping us for instance in the HR or in recruiting and in compensation and benefits and helping to prove and make sure that we're competitive and so on and so forth globally. And again on the operations side, let's say on the sales marketing and strategy it's -- I've been doing a lot of this myself…

Shagun Singh Chadha

Analyst

Great. Thank you for taking the question.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

You're welcome. Thank you for the question.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is coming from the line of Jim Sidoti with Sidoti & Company. Your line is open.

Jim Sidoti

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Fred, can we stick on that new products subject for a little bit? Can you give us a little color on what you have in the pipeline? And are you able to start launching those now, or do you think they'll be significant by 2022?

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Well, Jim it's a good question. Listen Merit has always been known as a company of innovation. We've incorporated the new products into our guidance. And again when appropriate -- if appropriate we'll discuss that down the road. But listen if you take a look at the business, we got here and built this business on the foundation of innovation and meeting customer needs and we've been doing a long time. It is a cultural thing that we do all the time. So again whether it be in the area with SCOUT and -- or in the peripheral area from your toe up to your head, or whether it be in the cardiac area with our electrophysiology products, Merit is building a foundation of complex and needed products for continued growth in the future. What also I think is very pleasing is to see that as things start to come back and procedures is the fact that people want these products. You can -- products sometimes sit on the shelf. But as this thing is starting to come back together, people want these products. And that for me is -- things were dark a year ago, Jim you never know if you get a chance to show people these great innovations. But we're showing them and I think going back to the WRAPSODY just in this -- this BSIR thing -- symposia I told you about. I mean to have 130 physicians spend 1.5 hours or whatever on a Zoom, Teams meeting is terrific in the evening. I mean they've been working all day, they're tired but that's how exciting that technology. So I'm not concerned that anything has changed despite the foundations for growth on the innovation side. In fact, it's the thing that we have really, really spent a lot of time making sure, it's preserved and passed on to the next generation.

Jim Sidoti

Analyst

All right. And then, Raul on working capital, I mean, it's just -- your working capital management improved quite a bit in the last 12 months. If we look a year ago, sales are higher now receivables are flat. The inventory is quite a bit lower. What's changed there? And is that change sustainable?

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Yeah. Well, listen, look, I've got my Chief Operating Officer in the room. I've got my financing staff here, properly spread out. And listen, when we announced our initial plan 18 months, 20 months ago, Raul talked about, what we were going to do with some facilities and the products we were going to move. This was really just the beginning. And then, we looked at all the other things. You get so busy sometimes that, there are, some things right in front of you. We -- I mean, I don't care whose business, we're talking about. There are nuggets, all over the so-called low-hanging fruit. So we're looking at that. And then, the stuff that's in the mid-range and the stuff that maybe is a little more difficult. So its how we get compensated Jim. And humans respond to …

Jim Sidoti

Analyst

Okay.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

…incentives and the incentives are -- these are the goals. And we meet weekly sometimes daily to talk about are we on track. And some were ahead on, some were behind on. But again, if there were measures to leave today, it's -- I don't want anybody to misunderstand or underestimate our commitment to complaining our foundations for growth. It's not foundations for being cheap. It's not foundations for lower cost. It's foundations for growing the business and growing it more profitably. And it's -- I think we've done a good job. And then, I think you will see them -- continue to see the benefits and the fruits of our labor going forward. So I'm maybe being too assertive aggressive here. But we're engaged. And we continue to be. And we'll hit those goals. That's, yeah…

Jim Sidoti

Analyst

Yeah. Okay.

Raul Parra

Management

And there's, targets every year.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

And it's fun, yeah.

Raul Parra

Management

There's, targets that we keep track of them. Ron and I, we're in close contact almost on a weekly basis. Actually on a weekly basis, we get an update where the inventory stands. Receivables, we're just -- we've got a good handle on it. We're keeping an eye on it.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

And what I would call is still a difficult -- you're talking about the goals and forecasts. Listen, there's a lot of stuff out there. Let's not forget this storm that's out there. I'm sure on other medical device calls, you guys have picked things up like, shortages that people have and transportation and Suez Canal. And I mean all these things that are going on out there. There's stuff -- it's a constant battle. But the staff and everybody have committed, working hard. And I just have to say, because you left his wide open for me, I am really pleased with the results of this quarter. And I'm pleased not just by looking backwards, but looking as to what everybody is committed to do and how we're working together. I think I don't know if we've surprised people. It hasn't surprised me, to see the things. Now the question is always well, why, didn't you do it before? And I think, we should all ask ourselves that same question on almost every aspect of our life, right? Why don't we do this? And why didn't we do that? Well, we're doing things. And I think you're seeing the results of that, Jim. So I better stop, because I could go on another half an hour. And I committed to keep this call to one hour, so, Jim, anything else?

Jim Sidoti

Analyst

No. I think, it sounds like, the -- the focus on improving cash management and working capital management and cash flow, it sounds like, that's something that's not going away anytime soon in there.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

No. No. Watching that debt go down and watching the sadness in bankers' eyes, because they're not getting as much as absolutely one of the most pleasing things that can never happen. And maybe more importantly the flexibility it gives to us. I mean I've seen grown men, bankers and women weeping, because we won't take their money. And don't need it.

Jim Sidoti

Analyst

Thanks, Fred.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

All right. Thanks, Jim.

Operator

Operator

And I'm showing no further questions at this time.

Fred Lampropoulos

Management

Well, listen, everybody. Thank you. I know it's a busy day. We'll take no more of your time. We appreciate you taking the time to listen this. Raul and I will be around for the next two or three hours, looking forward to your calls. Thanks again. We look forward to coming back to you, when appropriate to do so. See you soon. Thank you. Bye-bye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.