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Maximus, Inc. (MMS)

Q3 2020 Earnings Call· Sun, Aug 9, 2020

$65.19

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Q3 FY 2020 MAXIMUS earnings conference call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker for this morning, Ms. Lisa Miles, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may go ahead, ma'am.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Good morning and thanks for joining us. With me today is Bruce Caswell, President and CEO and Rick Nadeau, Chief Financial Officer. I'd like to remind everyone that a number of statements being made today will be forward-looking in nature. Please remember that such statements are only predictions. Actual events and results may differ materially as a result of risks we face including those discussed in Exhibit 99.1 of our SEC filings. We encourage you to review the information contained in our earnings release today and our most recent forms 10-Q and 10-K filed with the SEC. The company does not assume any obligation to revise or update these forward-looking statements to reflect subsequent events or circumstances, except as required by law. Today's presentation may contain non-GAAP financial information. Management uses this information in its internal analyses of results and believes this information may be informative to investors, engaging the quality of our financial performance, identifying trends in our results and providing meaningful period-to-period comparisons. For a reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures presented in this document, please see the company's most recent quarterly earnings press release. And with that, I'll hand the call over to Rick.

Rick Nadeau

Analyst

Thank you, Lisa. We continue to operate in a world affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. We are successfully working under a hybrid operational model, which maintains delivery of our services through a mix of safe, on-site working arrangements and work from home arrangements. The model enables continuity for our government customers and uninterrupted assistance for citizens at a time when their need for healthcare and safety net programs is crucial. Not surprisingly, we have been subjected to both headwinds and tailwinds stemming from the pandemic. Our outside the US segment continues to experience the greatest headwinds resulting from a temporary halt on face-to-face assessments and a general pandemic related slowdown in employment services. In our US operations, we are experiencing headwinds on various performance-based contracts as volumes and revenues are lower. This is resulting from COVID-19 response efforts by our government clients who have relaxed certain program requirements in order to ensure that the most vulnerable citizens continue to access the vital services they need. We also have a multitude of tailwinds that have provided a favorable uptick, most notably new COVID-19 response work and the extension of the Census contract in response to COVID-19. We have made meaningful progress in securing more appropriate contract terms on some employment services contracts to support the goals of our customers as economies gradually reopen and program operations resume. The net result of these puts and takes is a positive update to our revenue and earnings guidance. Revenue and earnings were better than expected, principally due to new work and the expansion of the existing work tied to the COVID-19 response including the extension of the Census contract as well as an improved outlook for our Australia Employment Services operations. As a result, we now expect revenue will range between $3.375 billion and…

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Despite the great uncertainty and significant economic disruption in the global economy as a result of COVID-19, we are pleased today to be raising revenue and diluted earnings per share guidance as a result of our demonstrated ability to modify and scale operations, respond to the priorities of our government clients and ensure that individuals and families receive uninterrupted access to needed services. At the same time, we are conscious of the fact, as Rick stated, that no one can predict the trajectory of the pandemic. While some governments are experiencing fiscal challenges with more limited budgets and yet higher demand for services, this impact has primarily been felt at the state level, while federal funding continues to support the administration of many essential benefit programs and has been a critical lifeline to states to provide COVID-19 services such as expanded unemployment insurance, contact tracing and testing. As a consequence, while we've experienced disruption in our US Health & Human Services and US Federal Services segments, these have related more to policy changes and the downstream economic consequences of the pandemic and less to fiscal challenges. That said, I'm pleased that these headwinds have been tempered in the near term by our new COVID-19 work and the Census contract. From a procurement perspective, we've fortunately seen only isolated delays on a global basis. As you can appreciate, many US state customers shifted priorities to COVID-19 emergency procurement undertaken at unprecedented speeds and from which we have benefited. For certain customers, this has meant delaying previously planned RFPs and awards. In some cases, these delays have been a net positive for MAXIMUS, leading to extended contracts and additional option year periods. At the federal level, there's been no…

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Please hold while the operator queues up the questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Dave Styblo.

Dave Styblo

Analyst

Thanks for all the color today. Very comprehensive and I appreciate all that. And I certainly appreciate how challenging it is to give us an update forward-looking for all the uncertainty. That said, I'm wondering if you can help us understand how much of the revenue increase this year, the $200 million was perhaps more temporary in nature or maybe even an aggregate for the full year, how much of the revenue is temporary in nature versus something that has more durability? Obviously, COVID has some positive impacts for higher unemployment for your job services, but then there's other things where as you guys talked about, there's a few contracts that are short of term in nature, so any way to quantify that as we're thinking about the bridge from this year to next year?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Yes. Dave, Rick will take that.

Rick Nadeau

Analyst

Yes. Dave, it's a good question. And I talked and used a term COVID response type of work. It's coming in every day and our estimates change. But I think it will be something in the $150 million to $200 million of revenue for this year. The awards number that Bruce gave you was comprehensive in that it goes past FY '21 year end and into FY '20 year end, goes into FY '21. So we will have some of this in both years. But that really is basically the level that we're talking about. This work is coming in, RFPs are coming in every day and we're bidding them every day. So I mean this is part of when I talk about the uncertainty and the variability that we face, this is a very dynamic situation. Does that help you?

Dave Styblo

Analyst

It does. Sure. And I'm just trying to think, I think investors often times are trying to understand when things do hopefully return to normal sooner than later, what does the earnings power look like? And what are some of the contracts that are under the most pressure right now? What's the rebound on those? And I guess from my outside view, I think the HAAS contract might be the one that, that could be the biggest move or maybe you guys have a different view and could share that. But maybe at least on that one, what is embedded in guidance this year for the earnings drag on that contract? And is there any early view on how that might progress to improving some face-to-face meetings in the UK? Or are we still in its whole standstill on that contract for now?

Rick Nadeau

Analyst

Well, Dave, that's a very complex question. So let me make sure I get them all and Bruce will help me with some of that. So look, in my prepared remarks I noted that there are positive and negative dynamics that we're facing as we go into FY '21. And as I said more than once, compared to our prior year experiences, we are facing a wider range of possible scenarios and much of this is COVID related. Look, the ultimate duration of the pandemic, let me give you an example. We're providing unemployment insurance assistance and contact tracing. We're sitting here asking ourselves how long is this going to last. And we're asking ourselves how much more work are we actually going to win in this area. There's a threat of worsening unfavorable pandemic-related impacts. In my prepared remarks, I mentioned a significant drop in workers' compensation claims. I think also in my prepared remarks, I talked about states that are pausing renewals and allowing citizens to stay on the health benefit programs without being challenged as to their eligibility. So those are some of the core programs that we have that we would expect to return to normal volumes at some point. But we really can't predict when they will. You can talk about student loans. I mean those things, there are people who are in default of their student loans, but they're not being challenged at this point, another example. So we really don't know what kind of budget challenges we're going to face from our customers. Our customers' tax receipts are under great pressure and that sometimes can impact us with respect to how much work they can give us. I mean there is some discretionary work that makes sense for them to do. But if the budget isn't there, then they can't do that. There are risks of supply chain disruptions, including IT and personal protective equipment and obviously, legislation and government policies. The HAAS is a great question. We've wrestled with that. We gave you guidance for FY '20. And I think we've got a pretty good sense of what this next quarter is going to be, so through September 30. After that, it's more of a question mark in our mind. But Bruce, do you want to talk about HAAS a little bit?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Yes. To add a little more color. So obviously, for all these programs, it's going to be a function of the pace at which these economies can reopen, obviously and the progression of the pandemic. And there's so much uncertainty around what the fall and winter might bring, it's difficult to speculate. But when you think about HAAS, it's a program that's historically been delivered kind of three-fourth face-to-face, one-fourth paper-based, and 0% basically telephonic or video based, right? And it's a program that's delivered through about 150 clinical locations, many of which could have narrow corridors and adjacent assessment rooms. We're obviously operating at any kind of volume and waiting rooms where people have to congregate where it's very difficult to operate at volume with respect to social distancing. So I'm pleased that we've been able to work with our customers to think through alternate delivery models and actually move a number of investment types to telephonic based assessments. And we've been piloting that for the first time ever in the program. Another historical constraint that we may have spoken to you about when we talk about video-based assessments was that historically, the networks into our assessment centers have not been sufficient to support a video assessment model. And so there's a kind of a complicated mix, if you will, between operating procedures, IT infrastructure and then the third piece I'd make is policy that have to support a movement like this or a shift to more of a remote model. Now it could be an excellent model for this program because some of those vulnerable populations that are served through the HAAS program are the long-term stick [ph], meaning it's difficult for them to often get into the location. So I think that we're on the cusp of reinventing the model a bit, but it's going to take some time. The technology will be there first, but the policy has to catch up as well. The final point I'd make was in that regard is that historically, final determinations of an outcome of an assessment could not be made as my understanding based on just a telephonic assessment for certain categories of individuals. So the policy has to be modified and then the operating model. And then obviously, the technology has to be in place. But I think that's the path towards resuming some level of volume in the program in combination with socially distance, face-to-face assessments at the appropriate time.

Dave Styblo

Analyst

Got it. Thanks and Lisa well executed too, so I'll yield.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Thank you, Dave. Operator, next question please.

Operator

Operator

Okay, next question comes from Charlie Strauzer.

Brendan Popson

Analyst

This is Brendan on for Charlie. Just looking at health and human services first, you see our model by probably $30 million, $40-ish million on top line. Is there any way you could talk about breakdown, I guess, reading [ph] versus your own expectations, what you thought for the quarter? How much was new COVID work, for contract tracing or other things versus just an expansion within current Medicaid work just because of the spike in unemployment, etc. more people looking for Medicaid?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Yes. You're talking about US Health & Human Services. Yes, their COVID response work was about $35 million to $40 million in the quarter.

Brendan Popson

Analyst

Okay. And then follow-up to that. What did you see with your Medicaid work? I know you did call out one customer who stopped doing renewals. So was there some push and pull there with Medicaid?

Rick Nadeau

Analyst

Let me just give you a little more color on that, Brendan, if I can. You may be aware that under the Federal Legislation, states were eligible for an increased match. We call it the Federal Matching Rate or FMAP rate of 6.2 points. And in order to do that, they had to suspend renewals. There were a number of conditions that had been met, but the suspension of renewals was one of them. It's not uncommon to some of the things we've seen historically, where when in exchange for enhanced funding, there's like a maintenance and other requirements, so you can't degrade the program in any way. So that was a string that was attached to the 6.2% increase in FMAP. And so the question then is, okay, how long will that last, was the 6.2%? I think the 6.2% increase is presently in place through December 31 this year. In some instances or scenarios, it could be extended. So that was clearly linked to federal policy, and it's the right thing to do, right? You want to keep as many people on the program as you can. It also means that as we go through a period where folks transition from unemployment and the loss of employer sponsored insurance into other types of health supports like Medicaid, we likely will see a period of relaxed eligibility rules, which could lead to backlogs in eligibility support requirements and ultimately, program integrity work down the road, way down the road as the economy recovers. So that's the color on that and it was really just in one specific contract where that policy impacted the renewal volumes substantially. The only other kind of Medicaid color I'd give you is, historically, our work in Medicaid is a very small component of total…

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Brendan, does that address your question?

Brendan Popson

Analyst

Yes, it does.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Great, excellent. Thank you. Next question, please.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have a question from Richard Close.

Richard Close

Analyst

Great. With respect to the Census and I appreciate you giving the expected contribution through the remaining of the year, does that include or the recent chatter this week in terms of possibly ending the Census count early? Just curious your thoughts there.

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Yes. Richard, I'll take that. Well, there's been talk about as you've noted about having the Census complete one month earlier than was previously discussed. And we're in dialogue with our customer and we've not been instructed at this time to make any kind of programmatic changes. And we'll follow their lead as that develops. It's important to note also though that two other dynamics. One is that we don't handle the boots on the ground work, the door knocking efforts, what they call the enumeration work. So to that end, we could be asked actually to ramp up outbound calling and/or retain staff a little longer as they would push toward that revised deadline in order to ensure they get the participation rates that they're seeking to achieve. Also, the second point I'd note is that it's a cost reimbursement contract. And so any modifications to our time lines that it could ultimately trigger through the WARN Act notices and severance for employees would be considered reimbursable costs. So at this point, it's too early to really say what the financial impact might be and we'll continue to take guidance from our customer.

Richard Close

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And Rick just talking about the financial uncertainty with states that you just mentioned. With respect to continued work or new work. Thinking about cash flows and DSOs and whatnot, any thoughts there in terms of the financial uncertainty in the states? And potential impact to cash flows maybe longer term. I know you adjusted your expectations for this fiscal year. But obviously, there's a logjam on the federal side in terms of whether to give support to states, so just thoughts in and around that would be helpful.

Rick Nadeau

Analyst

Sure. One thing I do feel good about is our liquidity. As of today, our draws on our credit facility are $105 million and that gives us a lot of liquidity. So if our states are struggling, I don't think that will impact ultimately our liquidity. Now you obviously saw our DSOs grow and so they're getting a little slower in some of the payments. I think that the thing I look to and that makes me feel good is that most of what we do is deemed essential and so they're going to have to use us for a great variety of the work that they do. Now obviously, some of the work is discretionary, as I indicated during a prior answer. So that will impact us going the other way. The Medicaid program is a program that is administered on a state-by-state basis. So I think it's going to get into some policy issues, as Bruce talked about. But in the long term, obviously it's early days, but I think the fact that these are essential programs gives us some degree of insulation. Will our DSO continue to be higher? Yes. That's possible. But it's only $9 million to $10 million per day. If it grows and it's $100 million worse, that's obviously not a good answer. But the interest on that is not a devastating impact to us. So I do expect some slowness, but I do think that it's not going to affect our liquidity, which is ultimately what I think people should be most mindful of.

Richard Close

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Is that all questions, Richard?

Richard Close

Analyst

Well, one last one. In terms of the 3.5% organic growth excluding I guess the Census contract, whatever the dynamics are there, was that compared to negative 0.5% in the immediately preceding quarter? Just I want to - apples-to-apples.

Rick Nadeau

Analyst

Richard, we're going to file our Form 10-Q shortly after this call. There is an excellent table that is in the MD&A section that shows you exactly how we do that calculation. And it starts with the revenue in the comparable period. It shows you what the acquisitions and we do it by segment. It shows you what the acquired revenue is, it shows you what the currency impact is and the plug is obviously the organic. So I think that, that's something that we've done for several years now, but I think that will give you exactly how we calculated that number.

Richard Close

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Thank you, Richard. Next question, please.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Donald Hooker.

Donald Hooker

Analyst

Great. And I'll go off a little bit off script here. I don't think you guys talked about the November election. I know you've been asked this question in the past, but it's always good to revisit it. It's an important question. When you look at your portfolio of projects, I mean, what would you guess would be the percentage that are discretionary or administration specific if there were a change in President?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Donald, it's Bruce. Thanks for the question. And yes, we've actually thought about that very question and not specifically offered percentages as much as maybe some guidance as the way to think about it. I mean, as Rick said, a very large percentage of the programs that we administer are entitlement programs. There are essential programs that trace back to very large pieces of legislation going back 40, 50 years and some more recently with the Affordable Care Act. We can take great comfort in that. There are other programs, I would say, probably more related to the IT services part of our business in the US Federal area, that might be seen as more discretionary or priorities of existing administration, cabinet secretaries or undersecretaries, but that's a much smaller portion of our total revenue as a business. So I thought I might just take a moment and talk about our thinking in the event of that Biden administration and walk through just a couple of points. Since you opened the topic, we've always said that Democratic administrations tend to spend more and outsource less, and Republic administrations is kind of the opposite. So generally, our sense is that social welfare and importantly, public health programs would likely see an increase in funding under Biden administration. So these are far from normal times. And there are a number of important macro issues to consider, such as what will the greatest priorities their government be at that time? How will demand for accountability and government execution, shape the decision making? How will budget constraints, particularly at the state level, like we've talked about effect procurement decisions? And what role could the private sector have therefore, as a partner in achieving those priorities in an accountable fashion? We know that access to…

Donald Hooker

Analyst

And maybe just hitting you back on that. Has there been any sense from you in anything that Biden had said publicly that he might roll back the OPM memo? I think there was some optimism over the long-term that the Trump administration sort of is giving states more flexibility to outsource, I think. We talked about this in prior calls, that memo. Has there been any commentary from the other side around the state of that? Or not?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

No, no. The short answer is no. And I think the point I would make there is look, in these kinds of tough budgets, it's obvious that kind of keeping as many of your costs variable as possible and not making long-term commitments to significantly enhance workforces to handle the kind of surge in demand that we're seeing across these programs is important. So that type of flexibility is critical. And don't forget, the OPM memo talks about giving governors the option, the flexibility to either continue kind of current course and speed or use the private sector partners. It's also worth noting that under the CARES Act, there was explicit language included to clarify that states could use private partners to help with unemployment, insurance, benefits administration. And in fact, to-date I think the total number of states is upwards of 33 with I think a recent count, 19 democratic states and 14 Republican states that have implemented unemployment insurance expansion contracts using private partners. So my view is that, our model is a model that really should enjoy bipartisan support because it's an effective model for the taxpayer and the citizens that are getting served.

Donald Hooker

Analyst

Super. Thank you for the commentary.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Thanks Don. Next question, please.

Operator

Operator

Okay, next question comes from Brendan Popson.

Brendan Popson

Analyst

Just a quick follow-up. Looking at - you gave some thoughts on FY '21. Could you just speak to the organic growth ex-Census, kind of what your expectations are given the color you guys provided?

Rick Nadeau

Analyst

Sure. It's Rick. Let me walk you through the baseline math that is in our thinking. I think if you take the midpoint of the FY '20 revenue guidance, that number would be $3.4 billion. If you normalize for the Census contract, which is expected to deliver $500 million of revenue in fiscal year '20 and less than $70 million of revenue in FY '21, you really have a baseline of $2.97 billion. We are seeing some modest organic growth potential in FY '21. I said that our expectations as compared to the consensus was that we could beat that revenue number that was in that consensus. But you have to bear in mind that the next fiscal year will be significantly influenced by volumes and the cadence of opportunities and possible erosion that we have. We do know that we will have COVID-19-related work. We do note that, that is temporary. But I think we have expectations for modest growth next year.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Thanks, Brendan. Did you have another follow-up?

Brendan Popson

Analyst

No. That's it. Thank you.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Before we wrap up the call, I just want to thank everyone for their patience this morning and dealing with some of the technical difficulties that we had early on in the call. So thanks again for the support. And with that, that wraps up our call for today, and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You all may now disconnect.