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Maximus, Inc. (MMS)

Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 5, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the MAXIMUS Fiscal 2017 Third Quarter Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the conference over to your host, Lisa Miles, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations for MAXIMUS. Thank you, you may begin.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Good morning, and thanks for joining us. With me today is Rich Montoni, Chief Executive Officer; Bruce Caswell, President; and Rick Nadeau, Chief Financial Officer. I'd like to remind everyone that a number of statements being made today will be forward-looking in nature. Please remember that such statements are only predictions and actual events and results may differ materially as a result of the risks we face, including those discussed in Exhibit 99.1 of our SEC filings. We encourage you to review the summary of these risks in our most recent 10-K filed with the SEC. The Company does not assume any obligation to revise or update these forward-looking statements to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. Today's presentation may contain non-GAAP financial information. Management uses this information in its internal analysis of results and believes this information may be informative to investors engaging the quality of our financial performance, identifying trends in our results and providing meaningful period-to-period comparisons. For a reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures presented in these documents, please see the Company's most recent quarterly earnings press release. And with that, I'll hand the call over to Rick.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

Thanks, Lisa. This morning, MAXIMUS reported its financial results for the third quarter of fiscal year 2017. Overall, we are pleased with the results. In particular, the solid cash flow and strong operating margins. We also received the benefit of certain tax initiatives that I will discuss in greater detail. For the third quarter of fiscal year 2017, total company revenue decreased 3% compared to the same period last year, principally due to foreign currency impacts and the expected wind down of a Veterans Affairs subcontract in the U.S. Federal Services segment that we discussed last quarter. On a constant currency basis, revenue would have declined 1%. In addition, revenue in the Health Services Segment was somewhat tempered by our previously disclosed decision not to rebid a contract as well as a pending change order. I will provide more details about the change order in the segment discussion. Total company operating margin for the third quarter of fiscal year 2017 remained robust at 13.6%. For the third quarter of fiscal year 2017, net income attributable to MAXIMUS was $56.9 million. GAAP diluted earnings per share were $0.86 and better than expected. The over-delivery on the bottom line was primarily due to benefits for research and development tax credits in the United States and Canada. We have been actively pursuing these credits. During the third quarter, we recorded tax credits of $3.7 million related to tax returns for years prior to fiscal year 2017. This is approximately $0.06 of diluted earnings per share. We will claim R&D credits in future years, but the impact is not expected to be as material as this pickup. In addition, we had favorable results of approximately $0.01 of diluted earnings per share, principally due to other income and the gain on sale of the K-12…

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everyone. We had a good third quarter with healthy operating margins and cash flows, and we remain on pace for a solid fiscal 2017. The core business remains strong and the long-term macro environment remains favorable. Investors ask about short-term and long-term growth, so this morning, I will address some of the most common questions head on. Our view of the short term has not changed since the last quarter. We are experiencing a pause in the industry. While we still view this as temporary, it is impractical to speculate as to when we might see a break in the pause. In the United States, we are currently seeing smaller deal sizes reflecting budget uncertainty, increased delays and longer procurement cycles reflecting policy uncertainty and less deal flow of opportunities overall. Further, staffing shortfalls within various agencies continue to hinder the decision-making progress at both the federal and the state level. This leads us to believe that single-digit top line growth is a more realistic target in the short term until new priorities, legislation and programs have solidified. But longer-term, MAXIMUS possesses a healthy and stable portfolio, which is a good foundation to build upon. While we may be benefiting in the short term from our stable portfolio, we are actively planting seeds for long-term future growth. This includes new growth opportunities that allow us to augment and further leverage our core capabilities. It is our management commitment to identify and invest in these growth opportunities. When we consider our path for the next five years, the macro environment is as favorable as it's been in a long time. Governments increasingly require solutions to manage aging populations, individuals of more complex health needs and growing caseloads in a cost-effective and efficient way. So we…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Charlie Strauzer with CJS Securities.

Charles Strauzer

Analyst

Hi, good morning.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Good morning, Charlie.

Charles Strauzer

Analyst

I was hoping we could have a little discussion about the ACA and given the fail group repeal-replace efforts in Congress, maybe we could talk a little bit about this bipartisan group called the Problem Solvers. And maybe the use of waivers kind of going forward there and just getting your thoughts there, please. Thank you.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Well I think, Charlie, that's a great topic to address. I don't know if we can have a short conversation on it, but we will try. And I'm going to ask Bruce Caswell to address that for us.

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Great. Charlie, thanks. Yes, the Problems Solvers group is an interesting one. As you know, it comprises about 40 House Republicans and Democrats, and they've been working on a plan to try to fix some of the key elements of the Affordable Care Act on a go-forward basis. I'll highlight kind of the five areas, just by way of background, that are under that plan. The first is they look to stabilize the Affordable Care Act markets by providing cost sharing reductions, and that's a topic of – certainly, a larger topic that we've heard a lot about this week. But basically, locking in the cost sharing reductions for the health insurance carriers for this coming plan year. The carriers are in a process right now where they need to establish their rates by mid-September and, generally, those carriers that have been asked to price with and without cost sharing reductions have, on average, priced their plans 19% higher if those reductions do not exist. So they have the potential if they don't exist to destabilize the insurance market in the sense that there are about 7 million Americans that have relied historically on about $7 billion in these cost sharing reductions, and those are low-income Americans, between 100% and 250% of the Federal Poverty Level. The second area that they're focused on is changing the employer mandate and have that apply to companies with 500 employees or more rather than 50 workers, and also kind of a technical fix to the 40-hour workweek requirement. Thirdly, the creation of a federal stability fund that states would be able to tap into to reduce premiums and cost per people that have really expensive healthcare needs. And then fourthly, a repeal of the medical device tax, which actually is something that's enjoyed…

Charles Strauzer

Analyst

Thanks Bruce.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Jamie Stockton with Wells Fargo.

James Stockton

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess maybe there's a lot of talk about automation. You guys saw a nice operating margin improvement year-over-year if you exclude the one-timer last year. Can you give us some sense for how much runway is left there?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Good morning, Jamie. I think that's a great question. And when we think about automation, we think the following, and I'm going to open it up to Bruce and/or Rick Nadeau, and Rick's the one who constantly says, Boy, we're really delivering solid operating margins. We take a high point of pride in being really good operators of our business. And I will say that what I mentioned in my call notes about our focus on efficiency and digital capabilities and analytics, and to a certain extent, the analytics plays as a cousin to automation. I think we've really stepped up our game in the last five years in terms of focusing on our processes, identifying key metrics, monitoring those metrics and then opening the aperture for new technologies, new methodologies that can further improve those. And we've already either partnered with firms that provide that technology, so already some of that's in our process. We know there's a lot of innovation that's occurring today. So we'll continue to look at it. I think this automation issue is going to be five to 10 years in terms of really gaining steam, so it's something to watch quite closely. And we're keen to look at it, and we've made some good progress, and I think we'll continue to be very, very open-minded and proactive about the analytics and the companion automation tools that come along with it. Bruce, anything to add?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Rich, I think you've summarized it perfectly. I was thinking the same thing. Analytics are that close cousin to automation, because if you don't have good business intelligence on good management information, the phrase we use around here is understanding the health of the work in process then you can't really figure out where you need to automate. And we've made major investments in that area, and really, I think are best-in-class in many ways in that area. We also have a dedicated innovation research and development team, or IRAD team, that develops a lot of our automation capabilities, which recently led to our being awarded U.S. patents for some of the work that they've been doing as well as in our area of business intelligence or performance analytics. So I think we're seeing evidence that we're doing some very groundbreaking work in this area, I agree with Rich that there's more that can be done. We've developed relationships such as the one that we announced with Interactions to automate the IVRs and include intelligent agents in that process that can really transform the call deflection percentages. Historically, in call centers, with standard IVRs, it's not uncommon to see 15% to maybe 20% call deflection. But with much more sophisticated capabilities, you can get north of 50% call deflection. And then lastly, we're using automation and deeper analytics in the area of people management. We've launched some programs where we're looking at what the conditions are that really contribute to high levels of attrition. And obviously, ours is a people business. Labor is our most – our single largest cost element. So through better analytics, if we're able to address attrition through greater performance management and other factors that can have a big impact as well. So Rich is absolutely right. I think we're at the front end of this progress and its benefit.

James Stockton

Analyst

Okay, that's great. Maybe just one more. The Health Services business, we saw growth slow down there. Obviously, you guys called out the one-timer last year. I'm sorry, the $4 million of revenue that you weren't able to recognize. And then it sounds like you walked away from maybe a $5 million piece of business. Just at a high level, as people think about the growth trajectory for that piece of the business, was there anything else that was really notable this quarter that might change in the near-term as we think about this kind of walk to the single-digit growth you've talked about?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Sure. Jamie, Rick Nadeau is going to tackle that one for us.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

Yes, Jamie. I think you've got two of the three things I look at. I think also, there was one other item, and that is, sometimes, our contracts provide for significant upfront payments that we're required to amortize over the life of the contract. We did have one big piece of amortization that burned off and was not a factor this year, but had been a factor in the prior year. So I think you probably have another item about the size of the two that you described that really was in absence of amortization of deferred revenues. So revenue without cash, because we collected cash in the prior years. I think if you throw those together, I think that will help you. We also have a chart that when we file our 10-Q, if you read the MD&A, I think we have a very good roll forward chart to help you with some of those elements. And as I said, we should be filing that after close of business today.

James Stockton

Analyst

Thank you.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

You bet.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Brian Hoffman with Canaccord Genuity.

Brian Hoffman

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for the question. As a follow-up to the healthcare question earlier. I know in recent months, we've heard some states talk about implementing Medicaid work requirements. Curious if you're seeing any opportunities there yet or other similar type Medicaid programs? And I know earlier, you had mentioned that there's a backlog of waivers that are pending. Would work requirements be tied to those waivers or is that different? Thanks.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Good morning, Brian. I'm going to comment on this, and then I'm going to ask Bruce to comment in as well. I will say that what we hear quite frequently under the banner of personal responsibility, and it's a very common and I think popular theme, if we move forward with significant changes to the Affordable Care Act, I think there's a high likelihood that work requirements would become nationally part of the program. And I do think we have some very significant state-specific issues. And before Bruce jumps into those particular views, I would add that given the Human Services business that we have, we think we're perhaps uniquely qualified to offer some pretty significant capabilities in that space and marry those two capabilities as one service delivery. Bruce?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

I think you're absolutely right, Rich. And Brian, to answer your question about the existing waivers there, my understanding is there are, I think, six Medicaid waivers that are outstanding that kind of transitioned over from the Obama administration from states including Arkansas, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts and Wisconsin. And some of those do have, it's my understanding, work requirement component related to them. Overall, we're tracking about 10 states right now that have expressed an interest in the Medicaid related work requirement. And we expect that the waiver process will likely take about three to six months to get through approvals at CMS, and then from that point forward, we would start to see RFPs or modifications to existing work to address that. As Rich said, we do feel like we're very well-positioned as a unique company that provides not just the front-end eligibility-related services to help determine whether an individual is an able-bodied adult and would qualify for the waiver requirement, but also then, the Employment Services component on the back end. I think a critical question that states have to face is, are they going to have these individuals seek their employment services or meet that work requirement through that kind of traditional workforce investment board process, which historically has not been performance-based and outcome-oriented? Or will they look instead at some of the models like we administer for the TANF population where there's more of an outcome orientation to that, which I think aligns a bit more effectively with what we see, in many instances, the Republican governors of these states that are seeking waivers, seeking for their population. It's important also to note that the waiver process is not dependent – doesn't hinge at all on ACA repeal and replace efforts. So we'll continue to track those and, hopefully, we'll be seeing some activity in FY 2018 in that regard.

Brian Hoffman

Analyst

Great. And if I could ask one more. If you could talk a bit about the strength in Human Services margins in the quarter and how we should think about that sustainability going forward. Thanks.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Rick.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

Yes. This is due to lower SG&A costs from our United Kingdom operations. I think we previously disclosed that we had a restructuring that occurred in the first quarter of this fiscal year, and so I think you're starting to see the results of that restructuring. What I generally say when people ask about human services is that – and I would say for FY 2017, we should expect that to settle in right around 10% as far as an operating income margin for the full-year.

Brian Hoffman

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Jason Gurda with KeyBanc.

Jason Gurda

Analyst

Good morning, thank you. Relative to the last quarter when you talked about the federal slowdown or pause in procurements, just curious how you're feeling currently. Is it about the same or a little better or worse?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Well good morning, Jason. My sense is I'd have to put it about the same. So we'll just see it – again, my thoughts go back to – and I wish I had that clear crystal ball to tell you when all of this is going to break. I am almost starting to think that for the moment, we should think, at least the programs, as we know it, will remain in status quo. And I think – I don't think the pause is going to remain there forever. I think what's going to happen is these governments, if it's not the federal level, it'll be at the state level. They will figure out a way to open up the doors to basically make the improvements that we think are on the table in these programs to drive what we think is the next chapter in healthcare in this country, and that's really the quality and the cost of healthcare.

Jason Gurda

Analyst

And when we think about that state opportunity, are you primarily referring to the Medicaid waiver opportunities?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Bruce?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Yes, I think that's right. And also, the section 1332 waiver opportunities, they go much more broad, if you will, than just a work-related requirement. 1332 gives the states broad authority to kind of rethink and reshape their marketplaces. And also, just not to throw it out there as having a high potential of success, but there has been a lot of talk about a potential alternate approach to the Affordable Care Act that would create a block grant model. I think Senator Lindsey Graham had introduced legislation just this week related to a block grant model that I think is kind of a cousin to this 1332 concept. So whether it's through the Problem Solvers' effort to clarify the 1332 requirements or others, I think Rich is absolutely right, that this – the evolution of authority to the states and the ability of states to really kind of take over shape and run their insurance markets is something that we'll see if we continue to see the slowdown in the federal level in terms of decision-making.

Jason Gurda

Analyst

Is there any way for us to think about the potential size of these Medicaid waiver opportunities or the impact that it would have on the company?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

I think it's a tough one to size with any degree of specificity. I mean, I really would think on the margin. So in our growth model, if we can marginally add even a single-digit revenue to our solid base of business, that's pretty significant in terms of moving the needle from a growth perspective. I don't think any of these moves are going to, in any single year create, I'll say, a standalone 20% bump. Over time, they might, but in a single year, no. So directionally, I would think of marginal improvement, marginal spikes in the growth rate. And it's going to be a confluence of items that bring it together.

Jason Gurda

Analyst

Okay. And lastly, just to update on any M&A opportunities, whether you have a – you feel like anything could happen soon? Or any comments that you have on that area?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Yes, my comments on M&A, we do remain – it's an integral part of our strategy. We have an active M&A program and an internal group. And we do look at a lot of deals. We are quite selective. And we do have some things on the front burner, but as you know, until they cross the finish line, it's probabilistic. So we'll stay tuned.

Jason Gurda

Analyst

Thank you. That’s helpful.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Richard Close with Canaccord Genuity.

Richard Close

Analyst

Great. Thanks for getting me in here. Two quick comments, and I apologize if you talked about this. The long-term services and supports area, you have a slide in your presentation on that. Can you go into a little bit more in terms of the total addressable market for those services?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

You broke up here a little bit, Richard, so I'm going repeat what I think the question is. You're asking about long-term support services' total addressable market. We haven't quantified the total addressable market. I will say, in my mind, I think about it, our first, I'll say, our first approach to this has really been through our states in our existing contracts. So I would point to our New York contract. And I would say long-term total addressable market is – I don't want to be too specific here, but I will tell you, I think it represents hundreds of millions of dollars in the longer-term to MAXIMUS. It will be ability to achieve that will depend, obviously on the take-up. We've already seen significant take-up in New York, as we've mentioned. I know we have discussions ongoing with other states. So that's – I don't want to go too far in terms of quantifying it for you, but I would say hundreds of millions of dollars. It's a very, very huge social issue. And to a person, all they have to do is think about the number of individuals that we see dealing with long-term support type services. And as we know the majority of dollars spent in our government healthcare programs goes to those individuals. So what I mentioned earlier, about tackling the quality and the cost of healthcare, that's really right in the sweet spot. Bruce?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

I would just add one other quick item, and that is that this is obviously something we're seeing at a global basis, on a global level. So while, certainly in the United States, with the continued movement of more Medicaid – more of the Medicaid population into Medicaid managed long-term care, which has been a nice driver for us, and also, we've talked about our combination with Ascend and the work that we now do to do assessments for individuals with intellectual disabilities and folks applying for waiver programs for home and community-based services. We see that trend continuing because states are continuing to struggle with the cost structures in supporting these individuals. But in the United Kingdom, as we mentioned, with our combination with Revitalised and now having a platform that we can use to move a bit more into the telecare space, certainly, there are pressures in the United Kingdom with the National Health Service to find accommodations for individuals as they come out of hospital in local communities. And I think over the long term, telehealth will end up playing a role in long-term services and supports as well.

Richard Close

Analyst

Okay.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

You got one more question there, Richard?

Richard Close

Analyst

Yes. So we're in the status quo period, I guess with respect to the federal government and a lack of opportunities. If you were to take a step back though, have you guys had any type of conversations, maybe with the IRS, or any other different agencies that when the log jam does sort of break up here, that you see potential contracting opportunities over the next year or so or just maybe thoughts in there in terms of what agencies you could see the most opportunity with?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Bruce?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Sure, absolutely. I mean, there are ongoing conversations. One of the statistics to kind of make the point about the log jam presently that we follow as of this morning, I think of the 575 key positions that require Senate confirmation, 49 have been confirmed. So there's a big pipeline of confirmations yet to occur. And we've seen other companies comment pretty broadly on this, most recently General Dynamics and also Leidos have commented on the situation. So of course, we're out in the agencies having conversations. As I mentioned, we've recently announced our relationship with Interactions from a call center perspective, an IVR perspective that certainly could open up opportunities in certain agencies that historically have had large in-sourced customer contact center operations. And we're really just trying to follow the agenda of the administration, if you will. And so there – to the degree that work with departments and agencies like the Veterans, and certainly, as tax reform may impact the IRS and that agenda begins to unfold, we're there having conversations about how we can add value through business process services. So stay tuned.

Richard Close

Analyst

Have you guys had any conversations with the Office of Innovation in the White House?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

I don't want to comment on specific conversations, but we are well aware of the work of the Office of Innovation, and actually the way that they're collecting information from the specific departments and agencies as it relates to the executive order to look at the functioning of those agencies and whether there are opportunities to consolidate or outsource and privatize certain functions, so that's an element of how we are tracking, obviously, the new opportunities in the administration.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Yes, I would add, Richard, that our level of activity with our existing agency clients and other agency clients as well as such things as the Office of Innovation, has been, I would classify it on the heavy/intent side of things in terms of sharing thoughts, suggestions, ideas, opportunities to improve. Many of them are on the table and, hopefully, a fair share of them will also make it way – make its way to new regulation or new law.

Richard Close

Analyst

Great, thank you.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We have a follow-up question from Jamie Stockton with Wells Fargo.

James Stockton

Analyst

Hi, thanks. Maybe just a couple of more and hopefully eliminate some of the offline stuff you guys get. The two acquisitions that you guys threw a slide in there on. Are there any financial details you can give us on what you paid? How much revenue you're going to get, anything like that?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Sure. I'm going to ask Rick Nadeau to give you a little bit of color on those.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

You're asking about Revitalised. For one, yes, we paid $2.8 million. There's also a contingent consideration piece that will be tied to their future success. So sales, and that's $1.6 million. That's relatively small, but as we said, it's in the United Kingdom and it's critical types of skills that we wanted to capture. What was the other one?

James Stockton

Analyst

Just on the price...

Richard Montoni

Analyst

I think Ascend was the one that was mentioned, what's happened in prior quarters.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

Oh, Ascend? Yes, okay. Well, yes. The reason I'm confused is Ascend is – was February 29 of last year. So I'm sorry, your question on that one is?

James Stockton

Analyst

I am sorry, the slide you threw in there brought up health management. I didn't know if that was a reason.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

That was...

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

No, HML was a 2013 transaction.

James Stockton

Analyst

Okay.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

The point that Rick was making was that was an acquisition that enabled us to have the skills to bid HAAS. And so that was the reason we brought that back up.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

So Revitalised is the only acquisition in the quarter, Jamie.

James Stockton

Analyst

Okay, that's great. My other question was you guys are having a blow-out year from a cash flow standpoint. And when I look back at kind of prior years, there was kind of a consistent investment that you were having to make in working capital that isn't happening this year. And I would just love any thoughts you might have around, whether that is something that's sustainable or is this something that might just be more transitory because of this paused environment?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Well, I got to – Rick's going to answer it. I'll give you a macro or a high-level answer. And I said, it's an interesting observation you make. And what comes to my mind is the fact that our business development cycle is oftentimes multi-year in nature. And when you study the consequences, the financial consequences of that model year by year by year, you do get some very interesting fluctuations and what would you add to that, Rick?

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

I'd add to that, that we work very hard on the balance sheet, and we're pretty proud of getting our DSO to 64 days. We've disclosed consistently that our range is 65 to 80 and that we've had years where we've been above 80. But getting it down to the lower end of that range and actually going below it. I think is something that is a point of pride here for the finance group and the operations group as they work together to make sure that we stand up for ourselves and get our cash collections when we're entitled to it. So Rich is right from a macro standpoint, but we work hard on the micro side of it and make sure that we keep the DSOs effectively – as effective as we can and use as little working capital investment as we can.

James Stockton

Analyst

Okay. And I'm just going to throw one more in there. Hopefully, this will also help you eliminate some offline stuff. You gave a little more detail on the pipeline. Any color as to kind of how that current breakdown compares to the historical mix?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

My reaction is, by and large, I think the pipeline is pretty consistent on a sequential basis. You'll see some what I consider to be normal course movement within the components of the pipeline. That's my overall take in terms of where we stand on the pipeline. The other thing that I would say is when I think about that pipeline, those pipeline metrics that we disclose. I think those metrics are good indicators of short-term growth. The longer-term you're thinking, the less helpful those metrics happen to be. I think the real growth opportunities don't fall within those metrics, and as you know, those metrics reflect opportunities that we think will matriculate within a six-month period in form of a request for proposal. We also monitor a Tier 2 and a Tier 3, which would be, longer-term, often larger type opportunities. It's really kind of the big top end of the funnel. So as we think longer-term growth, our minds tend to go to the top tier of that funnel.

James Stockton

Analyst

Okay, that’s great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Frank Sparacino with First Analysis.

Frank Sparacino

Analyst

Hi, guys. Going back to Revitalised, and I guess trying to get a sense of what the opportunity is in the UK around digital health and wellness in terms of how many lives you're touching today, it would seem to be fairly large. And then I guess maybe related to that, obviously, you have a big presence in the U.S. I don't know if there are different sort of circumstances, whether it's regulatory or not, that prevents you from making a similar type of move given that opportunity exists here as well, just any thoughts there?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Okay. Well I have thoughts, so I'm going to ask Bruce to kind of tackle that first. So I think Frank is looking for some sort of discussion as it relates to Revitalised, how does it fit into our UK business. I think if you touch upon the significance to really even further add to HML, would be very, very helpful, and then the U.S. piece.

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Yes, Frank, happy to answer that. So Revitalised, as Rich mentioned in his remarks, offers a range of health and fitness and well-being platforms and coaching applications that are really designed for businesses, but also serve the public sector. And interestingly, we have found that employers that we serve in the occupational health space have been asking more and more for that type of capability for their employees. It generally, obviously, contributes to greater employee wellness, provides a lot of data as well for the employees and enabled them to participate in programs that the employer can offer and others can offer, connect their devices and so forth and generally improve the health overall of the company and its workforce. Similarly, the connection to the Health Management Limited is pretty direct. I mean, we've been working with Revitalised for some time to integrate their core capabilities and really private-label their solution into some of our key clients in the United Kingdom. So we think that, that business is a business that's got longer legs as it relates to occupational health. Where it really starts to get interesting is how that platform can then be leveraged to address some of the broader needs in the United Kingdom as it relates to population health. And I mentioned earlier, there are needs from a telehealth or telecare perspective as it relates to individuals who are coming out of hospitals and need to make a transition to home and community-based care and home and community-based services. There are certainly needs as well for large populations that are struggling with chronic conditions like diabetes and others. So we feel that there's – as opportunities evolve in the United Kingdom and local authorities and the national government create programs to address those broader population health issues, this platform provides a nice springboard, if you will, to expand our digital reach. I think it's also worth saying that the UK is not unique in that regard and there could very well be opportunities in the United States and in other geographies to leverage the capability. One of the things that made Revitalised most attractive to us is the highly secure architecture that they use and platform that they use to deliver their services. And that's something that obviously, in this age of the great scrutiny on cybersecurity that you want to pay particular attention to. Rich, any further comment?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

I would only add that I think this Revitalised acquisition is a very interesting one as it plays into what I think is a greater area, and that is this area of digital health and wellness. We've seen technology step up and play an increasing role in other industries. So we're seeing significant advancement in personalized medicines. We've seen it in the financial world where we now see machine-generated, personalized advice. And in our space, I think we're seeing the early stages of personalized public service and personalized – down to the personal – person population health management. So the technology is emerging that allows governments to do a better job in this area. Revitalised is but one element to it. We hope that it will be something that we can deploy in other areas. But at a minimum, in the meantime, it is a very, very helpful addition to our capabilities in the United Kingdom. So early days, we're very excited about it.

Frank Sparacino

Analyst

Great, it’s interesting. Thanks guys.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Okay, Frank. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Brian Kinstlinger with Maxim Group.

Joshua Seide

Analyst

This is actually Josh Seide in for Brian. Thanks for taking the questions. I did just jump on the call a little bit after the remarks, so I apologize if some of these topics have been covered. But firstly, after the presidential election, management highlighted the exposure to the ACA and Medicaid expansion. Has that exposure changed at all over the last first half of 2017? And if so, can you update those statistics? Thanks.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Josh, this is Rich. I think we touched upon it earlier in the call. Our take is that by and large, the pause remains relatively constant. So it's not greater or less than our read in the prior quarter or prior quarters, so I think it's relatively constant, Josh.

Joshua Seide

Analyst

Okay. And following the failure of the "skinny repeal" later last week, what do you think or expect the state of Medicaid expansion is in terms of the states that remain in consideration of it? Thank you.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Got it. Got it, Josh. Bruce Caswell is anxious to answer that.

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

My inter-policy wonk, it's too soon to tell, really if additional states are going to move forward with Medicaid expansion. But as an interesting anecdote, the Kaiser Family Foundation has done a poll that really finds very widespread support for Medicaid across the political spectrum. 74% of respondents had a favorable view of the program and 67% believed that it's working well. So it comes down to, if there's general support from the public, there are other factors. Will the federal funding that has been in place under the Affordable Care Act, which you may recall, phases down to 90% by 2020, will that remain in place? Also, states that obviously stood potentially under the repeal and replace or the skinny bill to lose significant disproportionate share of payments for their hospital systems, obviously, no longer face that challenge. And I guess, we're seeing also in a number of states, hospital systems and state regulators and state Medicaid agencies get together to, if you will, stitch together models to provide insurance for individuals, particularly in some of the – what they call the bare counties. So historically, we were – there was concern that, for example, in some states like Iowa, there would be a large number of counties. And in Ohio, I think 19 counties that were at risk of not having a plan offering. So with that as the backdrop, I think there's a lot of collaboration and a lot of discussion out there about the benefits of Medicaid expansion and we're going to continue to work with our clients and offer our perspective on how they can do that in a cost-efficient fashion. But I won't try to get too deeply into the politics of each individual state on that topic.

Joshua Seide

Analyst

Great. And then lastly, can you just maybe provide the percentage of the Company's bookings for the quarter that were for new – or newer expanded work versus recompete? And also, the same percentage for the company's pipeline, what is for new versus recompete work? Thank you.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Sure.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Just a second, Josh. Let me get you the award. On the pipeline, I believe that was in Richard's prepared comments.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

I think so. I think I mentioned it to be 40%, Josh.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

In the meantime, we'll go forward with the next question as we're running short on time, and I'll get back to you on that answer.

Joshua Seide

Analyst

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is a follow-up from Richard Close with Canaccord Genuity.

Richard Close

Analyst

Great, thanks. Hey Rick, going back in time, you look at the model. I think in 2013, you had peak margins, operating margin around 13.9%. As we think about the log jam currently based on the chaos with the federal government right now and lack of significant new contracts possibly that creates startup cost for you guys, do you think – is there the potential for margins to reach that peak level of 13.9% achieved a couple of years ago? I know you were receiving a lot of change order benefits, and that was high-margin business if I'm not mistaken, but any thoughts in or around margin expansion?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Yes. Sure. Going back to the period you talked about, when we hit that 13.9% margin, we also had the benefit in our federal appeals business, the Medicare appeals, and a lot of the RAC audit volumes that were creating a lot of work for us during that period in time. So I think that was a little bit of a windfall.

Richard Close

Analyst

Okay.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Margin expansion, we work hard on it. I think we – look, you can always get better. You can always do a little bit better here and a little bit better there. And I do think we lead the – our competitors, but they're quick followers as far as automation and things like that. So I think we're doing pretty well. Can we get a little bit better? You can always get a little bit better. But I don't see an opportunity for us to really break through back to the margins that we had in that particular time because we were benefited by those huge RAC volumes.

Richard Close

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

You’re welcome. End of Q&A

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session and are out of time for today's call. MAXIMUS thanks you for your time and participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.