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Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 4, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the MAXIMUS Fiscal 2016 First Quarter Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ms. Lisa Miles, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations for MAXIMUS. Thank you, Ms. Miles, you may begin.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Good morning and thank you for joining us. With me today is Rich Montoni, CEO; Bruce Caswell, President; and Rick Nadeau, CFO. I would like to remind everyone that a number of statements being made today will be forward-looking in nature. Please remember that such statements are only predictions and actual events and results may differ materially as a result of risks we face including those discussed in Exhibit 99.1 of our SEC filings. We encourage you to review the summary of these risks in our most recent 10-K filed with the SEC. The company does not assume any obligation to revise or update these forward-looking statements to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. Today's presentation may contain non-GAAP financial information. Management uses this information in its internal analysis of results and believes this information may be informative to investors in gauging the quality of our financial performance, identifying trends in our results and providing meaningful period to period comparisons. For reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures presented in this document, please view the company's most recent quarterly earnings press release. And with that, I'll hand the call over to Rick.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Thanks, Lisa. This morning MAXIMUS reported financial results for the first quarter of fiscal year 2016. As noted in the press release, we had a pending change order at December 31, 2015 related to a state health contract where we’re already performing the additional scope of work. Accordingly, the cause were incurred and recorded in our first quarter and the revenue will be recorded once change order is signed. As a result, approximately $8.6 million of revenue and $0.8 of earnings per share shifted out of the first quarter. We presently expect the pending change order will be signed in the second quarter at which time we will record the revenue and related earnings. The delay in signing the pending change order is due to the states required process which provides up to 90 days of review by the controller’s [ph] office. The pending change order is presently awaiting this final approval. As you many already know, this is very common in government contracting. I want to reassure investors that this is just a shift of revenue and earnings from one quarter to the next. Our full year results and therefore our guidance are not impacted. For the first quarter of fiscal year 2016, the company revenue grew 19% to $556.7 million as compared to the same period last year. Of this growth, organic revenue growth was 8% and was driven by the health segment. Acquired revenue growth totaled 14% and total company revenue was unfavorably impacted by approximately $15 million or 3% due to the effects of foreign currency translation as compared to the first quarter of fiscal year 2015. As we mentioned on our last call, both operating margin and earnings were expected to be lower on both a sequential basis and year-over-year basis due to several programs…

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

Thanks you, Rick, and good morning, everyone. As Rick mentioned, we have a pending change order that we now expect to be recognized in the second quarter. If the change orders have been finalized in the first quarter, we would have been in line with our expectations for Q1. As expected, several large startups are also tempering earnings at this time. As the mature, we fully anticipate that there will be meaningful contributors to our continued growth and profitability in fiscal year 2016 and beyond. We believe it’s appropriate to focus on our full year guidance range because these types of quarterly fluctuations are common in our industry and we remain on track to achieve our estimates for fiscal 2016. I’ll start my comment this morning with an update on the U.K. Assessment contract. Getting the contract in the right path to success remains a top priority for the management team and we’ve made meaningful progress. I first want to acknowledge a report issued last month from the U.K. national audit office as well as the public accounts committee meeting yesterday that discussed this report. The NAO published findings from an August 2015 audit of all the assessment contracts across the country. This included out U.K. Assessment contract. The audit only covered effectively five months of operations. As a reminder, when we took over this contract, we acknowledge that it would take 12 to 18 months before we could improve any aspects of the operations. The NAO report echoed what we said in our November call as it relates to certain performance metrics including volumes and quality. Let me bring you up to speed on our progress since the NAO audit and our last quarter’s call. Recalling that the U.K. Assessment contract is predominantly cost reimbursable was significant performance incentives.…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question. If you’d like to ask additional questions, you may reenter the queue. [Operator Instruction] Our first question comes from the line of David Styblo with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

David Styblo

Analyst

Thanks for the questions. First one would just be on the half contracting kind of coming back to the improvements that you made there it sounds like January was your best month to date. Can you kind of give us an idea of how those numbers have trend in the last few months and I think at the public hearing, you had mentioned it was at 75,000 was the volume in that month, I am curious again if there is any sort of maybe seasonality in that or anything unusual, but just the track record there and reconciling that to perhaps what is a - what is a year two goal that the government have set forth from you, I think originally it was 1.2 million assessments but curious if that part had changed at all?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Good morning, Dave. This is Rich Montoni. Thanks for the question. I would parse it to three pieces, help us understand the 75,000 per month and how is it fit with the run rate. Two, is there is any seasonality. And three, some view on year two. Bruce Caswell, our President is with us today and Bruce has been spending an awful lot of time as you might imagine on this house contract. I am going to ask Bruce to feel that question.

Bruce Caswell

Analyst

Sure. Good morning, Dave. So on the first question, the 75,000 was, yes our largest volume production that we’ve achieved. And there is a bit of seasonality in that and that December was a lighted month as you could expect because there is more holidays during that period. So December was lower than the preceding months. November, you see a little bit of that dynamic. But generally speaking, it’s been a gradual March, you know uphill with volumes and we’ve hit a new plateau in the new - actually a new peak that we are continuing to grow from with January. So - and the dynamics is we’ve explained our really driven by the healthcare professionals now that we’ve had in training that are exiting training had a very solid rate. We mentioned that our graduation rate is now about 82% for staff through the first three months whereas when we inherited the contract, it was at about 30%, so it’s a dramatic difference. And as those staffs come online, they become productive and spend more time in the business they become productive. And the staff, the very experienced staff that were training them have the ability to go back to their productive work as well. So we fully anticipate seeing our productive capacity continue to grow from that January number. You’d asked a little bit about contract year two. As you mentioned and is also mentioned in the NAO report, the volume target to contract year two is 1.2 million assessments. We are still in the process of ramping up our staff. We feel like we have adequate capacity from our recruiting channels to achieve those contract year two targets. And as I mentioned that is really a function of the staff that we have in training moving into productive use and also the seasoned healthcare professional that have been supporting them moving back into full productivity. So we feel like we are very much on a trajectory to hit the contract year two targets.

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Next question please. Dave, you got a follow-up?

David Styblo

Analyst

I did. Actually just on the Federal business and the Human Service margins are a little bit lower because of the some of the startups in the factors you had call it out there around 7.5%, can you give us a little bit better sense of maybe what the normalized margin over the long term would be in Federal Services, I suspect that might ramp up closer to 10%, but what would get you there and same thing in Human Service, I guess it’s mostly the Australia overhang how do we think about what that profit is in the first quarter versus getting 10% to 15% margin you called out for the second half?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Okay, Dave. I’m going to ask Rick Nadeau, our Chief Financial Officer respond to that question.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

Hi Dave. On a historical basis, operating margins in our Federal segment back in the fiscal years ‘13 and ‘14 were abnormally high due to the increased Medicare appeals volumes, which were really highly accretive. And we also experience the lower appeals and assessments volumes impart due to some Medicare appeals contracts that we lost. And so that back in with more normalized margin type of work and I think that you know that we had one contact center that we closed down Boise in Federal and that’s a little bit why it’s been down. The operating margin for the U.S. Federal business should normalize around 10%. You know as a reminder, if you get cost plus contracts and we do yields tend to see lower margins while performance based or transaction based contracts will tend to operate in the target range. We do also in the Federal group house, one of our startup contracts, which is tempering that margin. And yes, you are right in the Human Services, the things that’s tempering that margin is this Australia startup.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

Thanks Dave. Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Charles Strauzer with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Charles Strauzer

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning.

Richard Montoni

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, Charlie.

Charles Strauzer

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Hi Rich. Just picking up on Dave’s second question a little bit further there, if you kind of take a look at the core business excluding the startups and the change order, what is the core business kind of look like from a growth perspective?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Good question, I’m going to ask Rick Nadeau address that one and Rick maybe just address from this most report quarter of Q1.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, Charlie, if you exclude all of the startups and the pending change order that we talked about, the rest of the business is running in the middle of the targeted operating margin range that we talk about, our targeted range of 10% to 15%, which does indicates that the base business is performing as we expected. You know as a reminder, you know as we startup some material, we do expect them to become meaningful contributors to our long term shareholder values. But in the early parts of the contracts they due to press the margins as you know.

Charles Strauzer

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Great and then if you look at the guidance range, I know it’s still too early to raise the lower end of that guidance range, but you know as the year progresses, you know what would kind of have to happen from year-over-year to kind of cause of raising the lower end of that guidance? Thanks.

Richard Montoni

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, Charlie, I think that similar to the answer I just gave you, I think we’re going to have to see the startup contracts continue to mature. And as you know ours is a big chunk of that, a biggest of the startup. So as we continue to see progress toward that, you know we have made meaningful progress, but you know we still have ways to go as we see continued progress then we would be thinking that we would be going toward the upper end of the range. But it’s too early at this point.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you, Charlie. Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Tom Carroll with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Thomas Carroll

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Hey guys, good morning. Actually just a quick follow-up on the U.K. HAAS contract again, your slide five in your presentation trying to think between the lines there are a bit more in the comments and the bullets that you made about you know still running below volume targets but making progress each month and we’ve seen that in the data. Is there some probability that you can claw back any of what you have given up this year related to this contract or is that completely just not a possibility at this point in time?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Fair question, Tom. I’m going to ask Rick Nadeau address that one.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, contract year one ends on February 29th. You can claw back within a year within a contract year but once we get to February 29th, we start the clock over again. So we do get an assessed volume penalties on a month to month basis but the ultimate target is for the whole year and we could make up short falls that we had for example in March or April later in that year.

Thomas Carroll

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

But if you haven’t shown improvement by Feb 29, you lose it in the contract year, so is that - might get that rate?

Richard Nadeau

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, we couldn’t claw back anything after February 29th in that first contract year. As a reminder, so we get 7/12s of a contract year in one fiscal year and 5/12s in the next. So you know it’s - we straddle years unfortunately against our fiscal year.

Thomas Carroll

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, and then secondly just quickly, you said Acentia is essentially fully integrated, I guess what are the best practices, opportunities within that organization that perhaps who better support legacy federal business at MAXIMUS perhaps improving margins? I guess that’s the cruxes question.

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Tom, good question I think. So when we say Acentia is essentially full integrate. I think the one area that and this is normal course with an integration is really what we call revenue synergy, so what can we do to more forward and drive the revenue synergies that we felt were on the table with stenches. The other aspects which are ranged from blocking and tackling backroom functions I think are essentially complete. Either we make good progress, I think we’ve got a unified business development team, we’ve integrated all of that with our legacy federal business, we are advancing customer calls and sharing where this business development aspects, customer relationships, customer needs, compelling customer drivers and assessing what we think is out there in short term and longer term for new business development and advancing solutions to differentiate the new MAXIMUS federal. And it just take some time to drive what we think will be the ultimate price here and that’s PPO opportunities within contract vehicles that came along with Acentia.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks, Tom. Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Stephen Lynch with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Stephen Lynch

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, guys, thanks for taking the questions. My first one is related to your comments about the U.K. Health Assessment contracts running below volume target still. Can you just talk about maybe where those volume targets are in relations to the range it’s filled in the guidance, is that internal target, is it equivalent to the top end of guidance the 15% operating margin or is it closer to breakeven for that contract at the midpoint?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, I believe our guidance was pretty wide with respect to us. And I think it was $7 million of operating income on the low end and it was about $20 million of operating income on the upper end.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

It is loss on the lower end.

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, I said - okay, have loss, I said income, I missed, $7 million loss on the low end and 20 million on the upper end. Yes, as you get throughout that wide range, volumes are, this contract is very sensitive to volume. So as you creep toward the upper end of that guidance, yes you are implying that you are hitting your volume targets.

Stephen Lynch

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, gotcha. Follow-up question, you mentioned the exchange rate trends since November represent an incremental headwind somewhere the neighborhood of $28 million for revenue, is there any sense you can give us for what the EPS impact, if there is any?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

That would be much less and since - it would be not material on the earnings per share number, and that’s because you have a mix of contracts in there some in the startup area and they are having losses to them. So the currency doesn’t hurt you there.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

And you also need to take a new account that you have a meaningfully different tax rate that tends to buffer the EPS impact with the negative FX effects on the revenue side. So like we would tell, it’s not material from an EPS perspective.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you, Stephen. Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Kinstlinger with Maxim Group. Please proceed with your question.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please proceed with your question.

Great, thanks. I wanted to follow-up with that volume question as it relates to guidance. You’d mentioned yesterday that you expected about 900,000 cases could be achieved for the fiscal year, I am curious if that volume is a midpoint of low point or high point of the wide range that you are predicting for your guidance and operating income?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please proceed with your question.

As you look toward the upper end of that guidance range, you would be seeing us hit the second year volumes toward that 1.2 million range. So remember that the fiscal year ‘16 has seven months of contract year two in it. And so I think the - we know - as of this point, we have three out of five of the months in fiscal ‘16 we know what they are. I think your question and is better answered by, as you get closer to the 1.2 million volume target for a year, contract year two, you will see us go toward the upper end of that guidance range. Does that answer your question?

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, it does, much better. Thank you. And then I guess I am curious from a high level, what’s different about your Federal Services segment versus your public federal IT peers, their operating margins are well below 10%, they look more like yours? And then I guess as it relates to the DOE contract in there, is that fully ramped or is that still well below earnings contribution potential?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please proceed with your question.

I’ll answer those two in reverse. On the debt management contract, yes, we are in full revenue service but we are still in the uptick on the P&L, so we are continuing with the startup losses and that should turn profitable during fiscal year ‘16 and then continue to ramp toward a more normal profit margin. Having come from a federal IT business, yes, our margins are better than the typical federal IT margin. And I think it’s the fact that they have a lot of competition in their business and they have a lot of cost plus. Although we have cost plus, you know you are going to see a cost plus margin down around 7% on generally speaking. And so the more cost plus, the federal IT contract has in their mix, the lower you are going to see their margins. The fact that we do a lot of performance based contracting tends to give us better margins.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please proceed with your question.

Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Richard Close with Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Richard Close

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Great, first question is as it relates to the U.K. contract, can you talk about when you are able - assuming you are hitting the volume levels for year two, when you are able to recognize the performance incentives, is that come over the course of year two or at the end of the year just a little bit of clarity there?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah. This is Rick. When - we actually get assessed any penalties or any awards or any incentives on a month to month basis but there are true up. So we do recognize it overtime if that’s your question on the revenue recognition. It’s not - it is not tend to be back loaded. If we did have something like that we would smooth it in but that’s not the way the contract works, you see it overtime.

Richard Close

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And my second question maybe more for Bruce. There is an interesting article on Medicaid in the Wall Street Journal a couple of days ago talked about you know potential incentives to get the states that have not expanded. Can you talk a little bit about what you are seeing on the Medicaid side, what your - expecting any change over the course of the coming year?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Sure, I’d be happy to, Richard. So I think you are referring to basically the administration’s plan to try to get a minor change in legislation that would allow for three years of complete funding for Medicaid expansion regardless of when the state actually begins that expansion endower. So that states wouldn’t be locked into the decline from 100% funding down to 90 and so forth that ties to the current Affordable Care Act. So, yeah, I won’t comment or speculate on the likelihood of getting that through the legislative process, the regulatory process, but certainly Medicaid expansion itself remains a very dynamic environment with you know a larger number of states still contemplating it, some due to changes in administration for example on the Louisiana, where Governor Jindal turned out and we have a new Governor moving ahead with expansion. So we’ve said many times that it’s a kind of thing that will I think we see - we think we will see gradual adoption overtime as more states see the business case to it and the benefit from an economic development perspective in their healthcare industry. So we’ll continue to watch it and I guess you could say that if a change in regulation that provides that guarantee three year funding is made possible that could create and add it incentive for states to take that on. We also have spoken previously about how in 2017 there are some new tools available for the states through the Section 1332 Waivers that give them the ability to make some fairly substantial changes to their programs that could incorporate the Medicaid expansion component as well as kind of re-crafting the exchanges on a state based level. So more to come there, I think those become options to them if there is other option does not, so we’ll continue to watch it.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Next question please.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line Frank Sparacino with First Analysis. Please proceed with your question.

Frank Sparacino

Analyst · First Analysis. Please proceed with your question.

Hi guys. On the U.K. with recruiting and training seemingly in an order now, you know what’s the greatest risk going forward with the contract?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · First Analysis. Please proceed with your question.

Good question, Frank. And I do think that in comparison to prior periods, it’s very important to recognize that we’ve tackled and I think improved meaningfully two out of three tougher aspects here. I would answer the question by saying now we focus in China light on productivity and quality and getting those two aspects where we would like them to be. And I think in the call notes, we’ve talked extensively about the initiatives that we have in place to continue to improve. We have meaningful improvement here to date in the productivity side, we still think there are improvements that we can make and we have initiatives in place to achieve productivity improvements as well as quality improvements. Those would be the areas where we now focus our attention. Bruce, anything to add on that on?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst · First Analysis. Please proceed with your question.

I think you are absolutely right Rich and we I think noted that it does take up to six to eight months for the new the graduated staff to really become fully productive and so now that we are seeing more and more the stuff come through graduation at a higher rate. We’ll continue to tract for those entire levels of productivity and as we said that’s consistent with our view that by the end of the summer we’ll be able to completely raise the backlog. We did mention yesterday that the backlog is now down to a 110,000 cases from a backlog of 550,000 that we inherited at the time of the contract, so we are very pleased with that progress as well.

Frank Sparacino

Analyst · First Analysis. Please proceed with your question.

Great, thank you, guys.

Richard Montoni

Analyst · First Analysis. Please proceed with your question.

You’re welcome.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · First Analysis. Please proceed with your question.

Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Peter Heckmann with Avondale Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Shane Svenpladsen

Analyst · Avondale Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning. This is Shane Svenpladsen for Pete. Regarding the U.K. work program, recent government review suggested this program could be combined with the work choice program when the work program as we tendered this year, does that still appear to be the case, would you expect any material changes to those contracts if they were to be combined?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Avondale Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Shane, we are going to Bruce Caswell to answer that question.

Bruce Caswell

Analyst · Avondale Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Hi good morning, Shane. It’s a good question. And as you’ve noted, there has been some new guidance as a result of assessment review in the United Kingdom. Yeah, let me just begin by setting a bit of a backdrop, the U.K. is experiencing really historically low unemployment rates and high employment rates as a consequence. So the government is shifting its focus to reducing the employment gap largely for individuals of visibility. It’s interesting to note that when the work program was initially implemented, its focus was at the time on the long term unemployed and that group has decreased by about 75% since 2011. So the government is now creating this smaller, more focused program on individuals with visibilities called the work and health program and it is expected to absorb the work program and the work choice program and be focused on individuals with those specific health condition and visibilities. So first of all, it’s clearly helping individuals and visibilities into employment is a very much a core competency of our Remploy, subsidiary in the United Kingdom and we are very well positioned to accommodate and take advantage of that change in government focus and approach. The new tenders not out yet, so we really don’t have a full sense and - of the size of the contract, there are early indications as you’ve noticed that the contract should be expected to be smaller and we’ll expect to have a clear view in terms of the timing and the size of that opportunity probably in the spring time. So I’d probably just summarize by saying when we look at the work that we perform without MAXIMUS and Remploy in the work program and work choice, it’s also important to note that our profitability expectations for the combined programs in fiscal ‘16 are pretty low, so any proposed reduction that could happen as a result of that combination under a new contract would be more of a top line movement for us and relatively a material for the bottom line. Does that help?

Shane Svenpladsen

Analyst · Avondale Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, thanks. Okay back in the queue.

Bruce Caswell

Analyst · Avondale Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Alright. Good.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · Avondale Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks, Shane. Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Allen Klee with Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Allen Klee

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, hi. If we look at three of the startup contracts, Australia and jobactive U.S. and U.K. fit for work, is there a way we can quantify what the - how that can move in terms of incremental EPS for ‘16 and ‘17?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

I think that what - this is Rick. I think what you’ll see, you know I guess I look at the startups in the totality is I think all of them are in the maturing phases and I think that you will see us with our operating income margin climb steadily toward the middle of that 10% to 15% target range that we have. And I think all four of the startups will be contributing to that, now four of them will be improving toward that goal. Does that answer your question?

Allen Klee

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, thank you. And then with Medicare appeals volumes has been lower, is there any sense of if that’s going to continue to trend even lower or stabilized?

Richard Montoni

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Bruce?

Bruce Caswell

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, I think that as we noted, the volumes have come down as we lost a couple of contracts and we are seeing obviously the reflection of that. But I think we would say at this point we’ve reached a long term stead state in terms of the volumes with Medicare appeals program.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks, Allen. Next question please. Operator, next question please.

Operator

Operator

I am sorry. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Charles Strauzer with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Charles Strauzer

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, just a quick follow-up. If you look at the significant sales opportunity pipeline like 2.8 billion and versus the very light year or rebids coming up, it seems like is a fair amount of new opportunities there. If you could help kind of give a little more granularity or color into the pipeline and so you know international versus domestic. And then maybe a sense of you know which kind of you know which are the three segments they kind of fall into, maybe kind of give a percentage of you know reference of that. Thanks.

Richard Montoni

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, Charlie. Well, when I take a look at the pipeline, first off I’d say relative new work versus rebid, it’s a mix of both as you expect. And the important aspect is that a good portion roughly have the sales pipeline relates to new work. In addition from a domestic versus international, it’s really across all of our segments and international as well as domestic. I’d say well balanced, there is no disproportionate amount of opportunities in any segment or domestic versus international.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Do you have a follow-up question?

Charles Strauzer

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

No, that’s good for me. Thank you.

Lisa Miles

Analyst · CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks, Charlie. Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Our final question comes from the line of Richard Close with Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Richard Close

Analyst

Okay, thanks for slipping me in here. Two questions, one with respect to the higher salaries that you mentioned in yesterday’s meeting, can you talk a little bit how you get compensated, does that negatively impact you or just with the dynamics on having to pay higher salaries in the U.K. on that contract? And then my second question would be on the quarterly progression of earnings, we obviously have the $0.08 that is moving from first to second quarter. I think the current consensus for earnings out there for second quarter is $0.56, so if you could talk us about - talk about the progression as we go throughout the remainder of this year?

Richard Montoni

Analyst

Good. Let’s do this. I am going to - the second question will keep second and we’ll ask Rick to talk about quarterly progression and earnings and Rick if you want, you can talk about revenue as well. But before we jump into that let me take a high level stand. The first question which I understand, in the HAAS contract, I believe it has been disclosed and was discussed yesterday in the government’s proceedings that we are paying higher salaries to the workforce that we inherited when we took the contract over on March 1st, 2015 as well as to those individuals that we hired since we took over the program. In the process of bidding this work and negotiating this work, we felt that was necessary to pay higher salaries to be competitive and to be able to attract and retain the workforce. So we very much negotiated that ability and the contract. The nature of this contract is to a lot of extend cost plus, so that was factored into the cost equation and provided, we don’t exceed the cap Richard, it’s simply a cost reimbursable item and I believe that’s factored into our forecast.

Richard Nadeau

Analyst

And I’ll handle the second question. You know you are correct, when you do look at the consensus estimates by quarter, Q2 is $0.56, if you add the $0.08 it is $0.64 as you noted. From there we look at the remainder of the year and we think your consensus numbers are reasonable. Now when we look at the consensus estimates for Q2 revenue, we see it at around 594 million, I think this is a little light even after adding the 8.6 million of pending change, you’d remember it’s not just 8.6 million of operating income, it would be 8.6 million of revenue you would add to that. But I still think that’s a little light. However, I do think Q4 consensus estimate of 644 might be a little bit heavy.

Lisa Miles

Analyst

I hope that answers your question on the progression to the year. And I think that finishes the call today and we don’t have any additional question on the queue, so I’ll hand it back to the operator.

Operator

Operator

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