Eric Hines
Analyst · Maxim Group
You and I have a lot of the same questions, right? But I think we're uncovering them. You're absolutely right that I believed in the technology, and that's part of the reason -- it was an investor, as you know, and why I came back to join the company because I just couldn't understand how something that made so much sense wasn't more widely adopted. And so when I jumped on board, I found the water a little bit deeper than I expected, but that's okay. That's normal in this world of microcaps. The good news is the technology still speaks for itself, and it does all the things that were advertised. I think the challenge for the company was that they saw this great product and they thought it made so much sense and they sort of sprayed in a shotgun approach, and we're talking about standard of care and sort of getting ahead of their skis. And I think, again, sort of stepping back and looking at the relaunch of the adviser program, where we find people that get excited about CompuFlo is probably a little bit more on the academic side. So it's not necessarily at this point, I would say, mainstream folks that are sort of treating epidurals as a bit of a -- not a commodity, but they're running epidurals through the pain clinics, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 a day. What we're seeing is, in some cases, in some of the more complex cases, thoracic, cervical, spine stim and unique anatomy, scoliosis, all these OB/GYN, right, where they started in labor and delivery. That it just makes a lot of sense. So I don't think that they kind of started focusing, okay, let's do labor and delivery. No, let's not do labor and delivery because that's complicated. Now let's go over to interventional pain and focus. I think what we will find over time is that there is an opportunity, a substantial opportunity in every aspect of the spine and to an extent, the brain. And we will find that we become a very big player or niche player within many different aspects of pain. And so I think the story unfolds that the people that embrace this first are usually the academics. And I don't know if this is okay to say, but the younger doctors who are very interested in new technology, not that the older ones are not. But sometimes the academic community kind of pushes the limits. I'm fortunate enough here to have a person here that is very familiar with some of this stuff and how things get pushed at the academic level. Her father passed away from ALS and she's here with me taking notes. But the academic community really pushes the envelope, and that's where we're going to, I think, see the initial traction. And then I think it's just going to grow because it just makes sense. I mean Dr. Sayed on our Board will tell you, it just is crazy for doctors that are going into the epidural space not to use a flashlight when they're walking into a cave. The fluoroscopy helps. So I don't know that I have the answer for you at this moment, but the feeling right now is it's very broad. We see applications across all aspects of pain. And where it ends up landing most heavily, I'm not exactly sure. I just know that the people that see it and use it believe in it. And the research supports that the reduction in problems is significant. So that was a long-winded answer with a lot of commentary, but I don't know, John, if that helps.