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TPG Mortgage Investment Trust Inc (MITT)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 5, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the AG Mortgage Investment Trust's Third Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. My name is Hilda, and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded.I will now turn the call over to Mr. Raul Moreno. Mr. Moreno, you may begin.

Raul Moreno

Analyst

Thank you, Hilda. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the third quarter 2019 earnings call for AG Mortgage Investment Trust, Inc. Before we begin, please note that the information discussed on today's conference call may contain forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements made during today's call are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, which are outlined in the Risk Factors section in our most recent annual and quarterly SEC filings. The Company's actual results may differ materially from these statements. We encourage you to read the disclosure regarding forward-looking statements contained in our earnings release, in our earnings presentation and in our SEC filings.During the call today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our SEC filings for reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures. We will reference the earnings presentation that was posted to our website after the market closed yesterday. To view the slide presentation, turn to our website, www.agmit.com, and click on the Q3 2019 earnings presentation link on the home page. Again, welcome and thank you for joining us today.With that, I would like to turn the call over to our CEO, David Roberts.

David Roberts

Analyst

Thanks, Raul, and good morning to everyone.I'd like to begin by briefly reviewing our comments on last quarter's call. We discussed then, our intention to recalibrate our dividend to $0.45 from $0.50 per share, to better reflect our expectations for core earnings over the near to intermediate term.We cited the yield curve compression that we were experiencing and the relative stickiness of our funding costs, as the Fed lowered rates versus our asset yields. As we expected, we did declare a $0.45 quarterly dividend and we can still say what we said last quarter, that the $0.45 dividend rate continues to reflect our view of core earnings over the near to medium term.Core earnings for the third quarter was $0.40 per share after a negative $0.02 per share retrospective adjustment. GAAP book value for the third quarter was $17.16 per share, down about 1.5% from the prior quarter.Some of the book value declines, includes expenses of successful securitization transactions during the quarter, which Brian will provide more detail on.In T.J.'s comments, he'll discuss the quarters activities. And in particular, he'll share several investment highlights, underscoring our view, that the opportunity set and credit for MITT is broad, diverse and growing.As we've mentioned in prior quarters, our opportunity set also reflects the value proposition of being part of the broader Angelo Gordon platform. For example, during the quarter, MITT added non-U.S. exposure, leveraging the expansion of our investment team into Europe.Finally, we are pleased that during the quarter, we raised net proceeds of approximately $111 million through a preferred stock offering. We fully invested the proceeds into Agency RMBS. But as has been our historical practice with capital raises, we intend to rotate much of those proceeds into credit over time.With that, I will turn the call over to T.J.

T.J. Durkin

Analyst

Thank you, David. Good morning, everyone.As David mentioned, the third quarter continued to challenge levered investors, as the spread between 10 year swap rates and the three month overnight indexed swap or OIS, tightened another 26 basis points, to bottom out at 48 - negative 48 basis points in late August, just before the second of 225 basis points cuts by the Fed during the third quarter.On a positive note, the spread improved after the second Fed cut, to finish the quarter unchanged, at approximately minus 20 basis points. And has once again widened into positive territory, post quarter end, with the Feds third interest rate cut this year.While this period proved difficult, resulting in a $0.23 decrease in our undepreciated book value, we did produce a positive economic return during the quarter of 1.3%, generating an 8.6% economic return on equity for the first nine months of the year and 11.5% annualized year-to-date.Increased Agency MBS supply, low TBA carry in the face of elevated prepayment speeds, and disruption in the funding market for liquid assets, such as, agency mortgages, near quarter end, all contributed to underperformance of Agency MBS spreads during the quarter.This underperformance was minimized by the high percentage of quality specified pools in our Agency portfolio and was partially offset by strong performance in our various credit portfolios.Book value was also negatively impacted by marked-to-market losses on our mortgage servicing exposure, given the rallying rates, as well as the shortfall between our core earnings and our dividends.I'd like to highlight a few slides in our presentation. Turning to Slide 6 of our earnings presentation, our third quarter activity. Our overall agency MBS exposure increased into quarter end, as we have temporarily deployed the proceeds from our September capital raise into Agency mortgages, while we continue to source…

Brian Sigman

Analyst

Thanks T.J.Overall for the third quarter we reported net income available to common stockholders of 6.3 million or $0.19 per fully diluted share. Core earnings in the third quarter was 39 million or $0.40 per share versus 11.8 million or $0.36 per share in the prior quarter. There was a negative $0.02 retrospective adjustment is third quarter versus a negative $0.04 retrospective adjustments in the second quarter.As described on Page 5 of our presentation, net interest margin remained relatively unchanged for the quarter at 2%. This was comprised of an asset yield of 4.6% offset by total cost of funds of 2.6%. The declining yield was driven mostly by increase prepayments on our agency portfolio, as we previously mentioned, offset by decreased financing costs as a result of the Feds reduction in rates.The deployment of the proceeds from our preferred raise into agencies also contributed to the decrease as they carry lower yields and lower costs to financing than our credit portfolio. As T.J. mentioned, we executed on two securitizations during the quarter. One, including our first rate deal where MITT is consolidating the assets and liabilities on its balance sheet, and another three JV were MITT and other funds affiliated with Angelo Gordon, to sell senior tranches conscious to third-parties and retain the most subordinate tranches.As David alluded to these two transactions had upfront cost of 3.8 million or $0.12 per share, this was expensed directly into book value this quarter as we elect the fair value option and therefore do not capitalize these fees. However, these fees are excluded from core earnings. These fees do flow through our income statement, a portion in the G&A line item and the remaining portion in equity and earnings, given one of the securitizations occurred in a JV.We expect that these upfront…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have a question from Doug Harter from Credit Suisse.

Josh Bolton

Analyst

This is actually Josh on for Doug. Can you just talk a little bit about the pace of asset rotation that you expect for the preferred equity raised and how long that might take to fully deploy into more target assets? Thanks.

T.J. Durkin

Analyst

Sure I mean, I think, using on the residential mortgage side, if we're looking at pools that are out in the market, whether they be seasons, re-performing, non performing pools they're typically taking 45 I would say to 90 days to settle once trade date is awarded and on new originations its probably inside that, probably within 60 days.So I think, by call it within two quarters, I think we should be able to get a fair amount of that capital rotated into some credit assets, when you just think about the settlement process on the loan side. On the commercial side, it’s a little bit more episodic in terms of how we're getting new assets on the book, so it's a little bit harder to handicap that.

Josh Bolton

Analyst

Great, thanks, T.J. that makes sense. And then just given the plan to be serial issuers of securitizations, you did the first RPL and then the non-QM opportunity. How much additional capital, if any do you think you need to support the current run rate or any thoughts around just the current non- QM market and the opportunity to scale up that piece of the portfolio? Thanks.

T.J. Durkin

Analyst

Yes, I think we're - on the non-QM side, I think we have a more well defined roadmap in terms of scaling. I think what we're trying - we aim to be quarterly issuers and that effectively lets us rotate that capital that's in the, the equity in a warehouse and we get a fair amount of that post securitization. So you'll see effectively the retain credit that we securitize, go on the books and that kind of constant equity capital in the warehouse will be there as we fund new origination.So, I think we have plenty of capital to rotate and fund that sort of business over the next, coming years.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Eric Hagen from KBW.

Eric Hagen

Analyst

Just the announcement this morning to sell the SFR portfolio. Can you just shine some light on what drove the sale right now and where the cap rate is on that portfolio?

T.J. Durkin

Analyst

Yes, sure. So, Eric will be in a better position to discuss the details next quarter post-closing. I guess the few comments I'll make today are, we still agree with the original macro thesis that there's a shortage of affordable housing stock in the U.S. We're a year into this investment. And we haven't found ways to scale this as a bigger part of the portfolio in a meaningful way like we had hoped when we entered this.So, I think given all that we thought it was prudent to basically redeploy the capital into the other target asset classes, both agency and credit, which I would say over the last 12 months have been producing higher ROEs for the shareholders.

Eric Hagen

Analyst

And if I'm looking at it correctly, it looks like about $30 million to $35 million of capital get freed up from that sale?

T.J. Durkin

Analyst

Yes, exactly.

Eric Hagen

Analyst

And then just switching over to the agency segment actually agency and residential credit. In the deck, you guys note that the ROEs there are between 9% and 14% on agency and 8% and 14% on residential credit. I mean, that's a fairly wide range. I mean, can you just give us a sense for where the ROEs in that each of those specific buckets are currently falling?

T.J. Durkin

Analyst

Yes, so on the agency side, it really depends on how much leverage you want to use. I think that's probably the biggest differentiator where we're running the book today with the current leverage is probably in the low double digits, call it 10 to 12. And when we look at, something - just taking like non-QM as an example, when it's in the warehouse and that carries probably around 10. I think post securitization, those retain credit pieces are probably in the mid-teens from an ROE perspective.

Eric Hagen

Analyst

How are you guys thinking about leverage overall in the book going forward? I mean, I realized there's going to be some transition maybe into agency over the near-term, which could pick leverage up but on a kind of organic basis, the way you guys think about increasing or decreasing leverage, irrespective of the mix. How are you guys thinking about that?

T.J. Durkin

Analyst

Sure. I mean, I think we're generally focused on getting higher yielding assets that require less leverage. We're probably at the higher end of our leverage range given that we did deploy at the end of the quarter, or near the end of the quarter the capital raised into agencies and I would expect that to, you know, start to come down over the next coming quarters. So I think we're probably at the higher bound of what we've been running from a leverage perspective on a portfolio basis.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Trevor Cranston.

Trevor Cranston

Analyst

Just first a question on the gap between the core earnings number in the dividend this quarter. You had the comment in the press release that the dividend still reflects your expectations for core earnings in the near term, intermediate term. So I was wondering, if you could maybe provide a little bit of commentary around kind of what you think the primary drivers are there expected to close the gap going forward. I know there's the earnings, obviously, on the preferred capital, but I was wondering if there's any other key things that we should be focused on it driving that, thanks?

David Roberts

Analyst

Well, it's David Roberts. As T.J. noted, and as I commented, there's a stickiness to our funding costs that takes some time to be reflected. So that is - that's part of what our expectation is. And as well, as T.J. just commented on, as we find and rotate into credit, we expect that to be a positive. So I guess I would highlight those two factors in answering your question and, T.J., I don't know if you want to add anything?

T.J. Durkin

Analyst

You know, I just - I think, you know, now that we're through three Fed cuts, that just the profile for us is as any other levered investor, I think has gotten a bit easier. So I think that part of the calendar or at least 2019 was the most stressful part of earnings. And based on where we are in the rate market and where we are now through the Fed cuts earnings profile just looks better than it did in August.

Trevor Cranston

Analyst

And then you guys also noted that you deployed a little bit into some non-U.S. dollar opportunities. I was wondering if you could add some additional context around that if that was sort of a one off thing you guys found or if you're finding enough opportunities outside the U.S. where you might expect that to, to grow a little bit going forward. Thanks.

T.J. Durkin

Analyst

Yes. So in a whole, I think we have seen an uptick in activity and securitization activity out of Europe, and particularly the U.K. some larger portfolios. We are being refinanced. And so that was the majority of the capital where we deployed, this past quarter, we wouldn't say that was one off we would look to continue to deploy capital there on a just risk adjusted basis if we think it's compelling.There's probably a little less competition there and the credit part of the capital structure on the downside, some of the securitizations themselves tend to be smaller. So it can be a bit harder to put capital to work. But in June of this year, we had a full time employee, starting out in London office, which is helping us access more investments coming out of the various jurisdictions in Europe.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] At this moment, we show no further questions. Mr. Moreno, do you have any final remarks?

Raul Moreno

Analyst

Thanks, everyone. Look forward to speaking with everyone next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. We thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.