Selim Bassoul
Analyst · BMO Capital. Your line is now open
Joel, I will tell you one thing, which is fascinating for me, is that where Middleby's sweet spot has been has been literally in the chain business. We've not been strong in the fine dining. We've not been strong as an institution as much. So if you look at the chain business, it is something happening in the fast casual and the QSR. Casual dining -- you think things like chef-driven fast casual is becoming a big part of the restaurant movement, which is fantastic for us. So if you look at literally what is happening with all those chefs opening fast casual, and they are all flocking to us, because literally, they don't have the R&D that they need. They want to open restaurants. They know how -- the menu they want, but they are coming back to talking to us. And as I visit around the country, if you look at Paul Kahan with his Big Star. You look at Rick Bayless with Xoco. We look at Tortas Frontera and Frontera Fresco, and you looked at Danny Meyer with [indiscernible]. And I can name them. I can call Bobby Flay. We can talk about dozens of other high-profile chefs. And basically, you look at -- that movement has become very attractive for us. Now, interestingly enough, you start looking at QSR like Taco Bell, who has been inspired and infused by chefs, and continues introducing unique menu items. So that bodes well with us, because they don't hire a chef to do salads. They are hiring them to create some exciting menu items that include unique ingredients, fresh, local foods. And I look at that and I say, this movement has become so strong that it is most probably one of the hottest trends out there that affects us incredibly. So now, you're looking at fast casual and casual dining, looking at their menu, and the ingredients that goes into it in a different way. They are looking at the way they cook in a different way. So I'm looking at literally a huge explosion of what I call multi-concept restaurants, or big quick-serve restaurant operators, either relying on creative chefs, or those creative chefs continue to expand into that space, which is excellent for us. From that interesting part, I look at it as an exciting thing. So I spoke earlier about breakfast. I spoke earlier about, basically, the pizza business. The pizza business continues to do very well, and we're a very dominant player in it. And the reason I like it is, I always thought, where the pizza will go, and I think the pizza operator reinvents himself all the time. And whether it is Dominoes, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, they've done a great job reinventing themselves. And I will say that literally, I will see -- just to give you an example, I will see our pizza oven business to double again in the next three years. I am not talking $10 million here. We are talking, it's a big, sizable size of Middleby. I'm not going to reveal the number, but it is multi-million dollar initiative that will double in the next three years. I look at our Combi oven business, growing in the chain business, which we've done extremely well, because we're not a big player in the fine dining, except maybe a couple of our divisions. Our Combi oven has doubled in size in the past 18 months. So our revenue from Combi ovens has doubled in the last 18 months. I think it will double again in the next 18 months. We are most probably growing fast our Combi oven. It's our ventless Combi oven that's doing well. I am going to give you another trend. From an equipment standpoint, more on oven, when to talk to customers, I talked about the kitchen of the future, and I told you today, we have over 300 stores, beyond Chili's. And it's all over the spectrum, from casual dining to fast casual, and to QSR, thinking of kitchen of the future. But -- and it's seafood, and it's steak, and it's burger, and it's chicken. So I look at it and I say, literally, our broiler business, today, is around $40 million. I expect that business to double in the next two years. We have so many rollouts involving broilers that will most probably double in the next two years again. So you look at ventless, our ventless business today is around $200 million. It's over $200 million, when we talk about our ventless, incremental, it is more than that. I am talking incrementally, since 2009, we increased our ventless business by $200 million. I expect that business to most probably double again in the next five years, which means it will most probably double again in the next five years, which means it will most probably go from $200 million to another $200 million, in the next five years. So if you add up all those things, this is a huge runway for us, on foodservice. So, from that perspective, when I sit and talk to our customers, from the restaurant operator -- I just met with one of the largest restaurant operator in the world. I just met with their top management last week. Me and our COO were there. And what we've done, they are seeking solution from Middleby. And I asked them, I said let me ask you, what can we do more for you? They said, Selim, you continue changing the way the back of the kitchen is done. One of the issue is, they've done a great job marketing. They've done a great job branding. They've done a great job franchising. They've done a great job opening up China, India, the world. But one of the things they have not done a great job has been making that kitchen more efficient. And that was the topic of the conversation. How do we make that kitchen, in the back, run like a factory? So, when they talk to me, they said, Selim, when you go to your factory, and we look at how much productivity you run out of factory, and you come here, you see how lean we are, how effective we are And I say to them, it's a combination. It's a combination of equipment and layout. We have done -- what's in our factory, we've re-laid our factory many times, to extract the most efficiency we can out of our factories, and we say we can do the same for you, in your kitchens. And we can do it in a very efficient way. That's what has made Middleby unique. And I don't think the sentiment will change with the macro. I'm not affected by, literally, what's happens in the macro trend in the U.S., because literally, those customers are baked. They are going to find ways to figure out how to manage the slowdown, and they've found ways to introduce menu items, and doing all of that. I think one of the biggest things we talked about, when we were in that meeting; one thing is not going away. People are going to continue eating out. Now by 2025, I will tell you that the number of people eating outside the home will be bigger in emerging markets than the developed world, by 2025. So, we are seeing a lot of opportunities for us, and the runway is still pretty solid and pretty long for Middleby. I remain very excited about the long product sector, mainly on the foodservice side. Then, we can talk about food processing. We can talk about industrial bakery, where we are just reinventing ourselves in industrial bakery, which has become a very large part of our business. I look at the emerging markets, as rising middle class goes up, and they are basically doing the same thing, husband and wife working. They are sending their children to music school, to soccer games. They have no time to cook at home. They are basically going into prepackaged food, precooked food, and that's a trend that I see. When I go visit my home country of Lebanon, the amazing amount of prepackaged -- I know from my sister, because she has basically kids still in school, and she's busy. Her husband's busy. She's busy. She's basically increasing the amount of food she brings in the house, or eating out. She's been a big supporter of Chili's. Many-many years ago, I remember when her children, Ross and Jeff, were very young, she was at Chili's that opened in Lebanon; she was probably there twice a week. Today, she is basically going out and bringing food in that is pre-prepared, precooked. And you are seeing -- I know a friend of mine who now opened -- he started opening -- he opened the first basically fresh milk in Lebanon, called Candia. And he just opened up, is in the process of opening up, the first ham, salami and sausage factory in Lebanon, and he's using our equipment. So it's very exciting to see where is the emerging market going, and where we are well positioned.