Randall Atkins
Analyst · The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Sure. So as you probably know, we filed a tracking stock, and it's got a lot of detail in the S-1 on that on our whole operations, which we kind of historically called Ramaco carbon. And in that beyond the rare earth, we've got a blanket of intellectual property, which covers about, I don't know, 60-odd patents in various processes. And they're basically properties on different types of uses of carbon from coal that we feel could be used to make advanced carbon products and materials, which have got obviously a much higher value than the use of coal for conventional purposes. The ones we're focused on right now, which we think have the most interest, certainly both in terms of potential size as well as, frankly, far along in development are the ability to take coal and use that as a feedstock to make synthetic graphite. There was a press release that we put out a month or so ago on that. We're working with Oak Ridge National Labs on that. where basically, we both have some IP around that. They have not only more of a processing secret sauce, but also a lot more equipment to do some of the testing on. So we're moving on a path with them to be able to do development, which would probably use principally met coal, but it may have some applications in thermal, but that could be a very meaningful use of coal. The other is carbon fiber. So this goes back to processes that were developed, frankly in the 70s, where you can basically take what amounts to a pitch like substance and use that as a precursor to make carbon fiber from coal instead of petroleum. That has a potential game-changing cost impact, frankly, on the materials business. If you could use carbon fiber as a substitute for steel and aluminum, that could have some important longer-term implications. So both of those projects actually we've been working on with Oak Ridge. And hopefully, some exciting stuff will come out of that in the relative near future, I would say, from a commercialization standpoint, I would look to probably a 12-month time frame to be able to have some meaningful commercial possibilities on both of those fronts. And then lastly, we are working on the ability to use carbon from coal to make graphites that can be used in such things as concrete additives as well as some ink injection. And those are not quite as far along as the first 2 that I mentioned, but potentially have other implications as well. So perhaps a bit long-winded, but it's an area that I'm obviously very interested in.