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Montrose Environmental Group, Inc. (MEG)

Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 9, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Montrose Environmental Group, Inc. Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Today, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note, that today's event is being recorded. At this time I would like to turn the conference over to Rodny Nacier, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Rodny Nacier

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome to our second quarter 2023 earnings call. Joining me on the call are Vijay Manthripragada, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Allan Dicks, Chief Financial Officer. During our discussion today, we will be referring to our earnings presentation, which is available on the Investors section of our website. Our earnings release is also available on the website. Moving to Slide 2. I would like to remind everyone that today's call will include forward-looking statements that are subject to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ in a material way due to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that should be considered in evaluating our operating performance and financial outlook. We refer you to our recent SEC filings, including our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2022, which identify the principal risks and uncertainties that could affect any forward-looking statements as well as future performance. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. In addition, we will be discussing or providing certain non-GAAP financial measures today, including consolidated adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income and adjusted net income per share. We provide these non-GAAP results for informational purposes and they should not be considered in isolation from the most directly comparable GAAP measures. Please see the appendix to the earnings presentation or our earnings release for a discussion of why we believe these non-GAAP measures are useful to investors, certain limitations of using these measures and the reconciliation thereof to their most directly comparable GAAP measure. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Vijay, beginning on Slide 4.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst

Thank you, Rodny and welcome to all of you joining us today. I will provide you with business highlights, Allan will provide you with financial highlights and we will then open it up to Q&A. I will speak generally to the second quarter earnings presentation shared on our website. Before we speak to Q2 specifically, I would like to reiterate that our business is best assessed on an annual basis, given demand for environmental services is typically not being driven by quarterly patterns. We manage our business on an annual basis and it is how we recommend you view our results as well. I would also like to thank our approximately 3,500 colleagues around the world to whom these stellar results belong. Without their efforts, we wouldn't be here today. To all of you listening, thank you. With that context, 2023 is off to a very strong start, which is a core part of why we are taking up guidance for the full year and Allan will expand on that further in a few minutes. Our Q2 revenue was $159.1 million and our Q2 consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $21.2 million. The second quarter saw continued outperformance, which built on our first quarter strength and momentum. The strength in our business is due to several key factors and themes, which I'd like to highlight further. First, given our highly accelerated organic revenue growth over the past few years, we have focused 2023 on optimizing adjusted EBITDA margins. Our long-term organic growth opportunities are just as attractive as they have always been and our objectives and strategy have not changed. During Q2 2023, operating segment adjusted EBITDA and the consolidated adjusted EBITDA margins were 19.3% and 13.3%, respectively which represent an approximately 2% increase in margins versus last year. This improvement in…

Allan Dicks

Analyst

Thank you, Vijay. The strong organic growth across most of our service lines continued in the second quarter, reflecting strong economic and regulatory tailwinds and the success we're seeing, with our integrated environmental services business model. We continue to see the themes we've discussed, since our IPO three years ago, play out as the need for environmental solutions has gained significant momentum around the world. Our growth drivers remain intact, as we continue to harvest the benefits of our M&A and cross-selling strategies, which helped drive our strong revenue growth and margin expansion during the quarter. Moving to our revenue performance on, Slide 8. We saw growth across most of our business lines drive revenues to record levels in the second quarter. Our second quarter revenues increased 13.7% to $159.1 million compared to the prior year quarter. Year-to-date revenues were up 5.8% versus the prior year period to $290.5 million. The primary driver of revenue growth in both periods was organic growth in our Assessment Permitting and Response and Measurement and Analysis segments, an increase in CTEH revenues and the positive contributions from acquisitions. This was partially offset by lower revenues in our specialty lab, we are discontinuing and the timing of projects in our remediation and reuse segment. Growth in our year-to-date revenue was also impacted by our planned exit from legacy O&M contracts in 2022. Excluding revenue from discontinued businesses, revenue was up 14.8% to $156.7 million in the second quarter and was up 7.9% to $286.6 million, year-to-date. Looking at our consolidated adjusted EBITDA performance on, Slide 9. Second quarter consolidated adjusted EBITDA was a record $21.2 million or 13.3% of revenue. This compares to consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $15.6 million or 11.2% of revenue in the prior year quarter. The year-over-year improvement was driven by higher…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Today's first question comes from Jim Ricchiuti with Needham & Company. Please proceed.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Hi, good morning. I was hoping to get a better sense of the expected contribution from Matrix and the legacy Montrose if you will just as it relates to the changes in your full year guidance?

Allan Dicks

Analyst

Jim, this is Allan. Matrix runs at $75 million to $80 million of revenue on an annual basis and about $4.5 million of EBITDA. That tends to be back-end weighted just in terms of the seasonality of that business, so a little more than half of that $4.5 million is baked into the updated guidance.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

You may have given it. Did they -- did you provide any contribution number for Matrix and the portion of the quarter was in? I think it was one month right?

Allan Dicks

Analyst

Yes. That's right. Yeah, one month. We didn't -- it's about $8 million to $9 million of revenue running 4% to 5% margins in the month of June.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Got it. And just a follow-up question. Just as it relates to the timing issues around some of the projects and the remediation and reuse segment, I'm wondering if you could elaborate on that a little bit.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst

Yeah. Jim this is Vijay. We have -- we're primarily referring to the ECT2 business when we talk about that, which is a combination of our water and biogas business. And so you have to look at that more on an annual basis because quarter in quarter out some of these projects would either roll on or roll off, which may cause some slight variance in what the quarterly comparisons look like.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Got it. And as you think about the ECT2 business looking out over the balance of the year, how are you feeling about that? And I also wanted to just follow-up as it relates to ECT2 is just on the acquisition you announced yesterday in Denmark. Even as I went through the Google translation function, I'm sure the combined benefits of this business and ECT2 are maybe more apparent than the cursory look that I had on their website. So I wonder, if you could just give us a sense as to what you're seeing in that part of the business, Vijay?

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst

Sure, yeah. Let me take the first part of the question, which is when we provided guidance at the beginning of the year Jim, we talked about that business being flat this year, the combination of our water and biogas business. And we spoke over the last couple of quarters about our desire to pivot the biogas part in particular towards more of a technology anchored long-term solution. So we're doing exactly that. So that business will be flat. And if we fully pivot to the technology solutions, the biogas part in particular will be down year-on-year, but the long-term outlook for us is as bullish as ever Jim. And that's just part of our ongoing margin optimization efforts. And then as it relates to Vandrensning, which we just announced it's a very small team slightly outside of Copenhagen. And it's -- they're just a very complementary group to our ongoing efforts already on the ground in Scandinavia. And we're really excited about not only what they're doing with PFAS today, but how they can continue to grow with our team, utilizing the technology that we've talked about with you before.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Got it. I'll jump back in the queue. Thanks.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst

Thanks Jim.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tim Mulrooney with William Blair. Please proceed.

Sam Kusswurm

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

Hey. This is Sam Kusswurm on for Tim. Thanks for taking our questions here guys. I guess to start, I know you shared you expect to bring Matrix margins up to low to mid-teens range by 2024. Now that you've had some time to work with the acquisition more, would you mind sharing what changes specifically you're trying to make to drive that margin expansion?

Allan Dicks

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

Sure. Yes. Hey Sam, it's Allan. The Matrix business is very similar to many businesses we have in the US and to a lesser extent a smaller business that we run in Canada. And so the margin profile really should be similar to those businesses and they tend to run in the mid-teens. So aligning pricing we've done a pretty deep dive on pricing aligning KPIs. And then the benefit of cross-selling and cross-utilization should enable us to improve some of those key performance indicators for them. And if you combine all of that, you get their margins up to where we run all of our other businesses. So that obviously, early days but we've been incredibly impressed by the caliber of the Matrix team and the innovation activities are on track and going well.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

Sam, I would just add Allan's exactly right. I would add that we've historically talked about how this is a revenue synergy story and not a cost story. And what's particularly compelling about the Matrix narrative is that the management team there is not only exceptional but 100% aligned with these efforts. So this is a very collaborative effort and we're really excited to share more of this with you and we expect to do so when we report Q3 earnings.

Sam Kusswurm

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

Got you. Appreciate that. Maybe pivoting on the Biogas, just in relation to Biogas business. I was wondering if you or your clients even had any thoughts on the EPA's recent finalization of the renewable fuel standard and what that might mean for your business going forward through the year and maybe even beyond?

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

Yes. They -- that has a broader effect on the market right now Sam. And our business today is primarily the conversion of ag waste to the negative CI R&G. With the investment in TreaTech, we are pretty excited about the fact that gives us access to many more waste streams, including industrial waste streams. And so we just see broader -- you're exactly right, we see broader kind of tailwinds in the market and a broad-based demand cycle here, which is why we've been in it we've been talking about it. And we're pretty bullish on what that looks like for us over the next couple of years.

Sam Kusswurm

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

Got you. I’ll leave it there. Thanks guys.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed.

Thanks, Sam.

Operator

Operator

Today's next question comes from Andrew Obin with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Andrew Obin

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Yes. Good morning. Can you hear me?

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Hey Andrew, yes.

Andrew Obin

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Hey. How are you? Just switching to PFAS. I think recently there's been these settlement talks in the news DuPont, Chemours and of course the big one, 3M was water authorities, right? And I think the structure of the settlements they're upfront-loaded in terms of state water authorities actually want to do remediation sooner rather than later. Are you having any conversations with the water authorities about these sort of cleanup projects? And any sense of the timeline? I appreciate this is not sort of next quarter, but we're finally starting to see a large amount of money coming into the system notwithstanding the issues you sort of highlighted about the fact that nobody can detect PFAS. That aside there are actual money for remediation coming in. Can you just give us some color how you expect this to play out over the next two, three years? Thank you.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Yeah. We -- so a couple of themes that I think are worth highlighting Andrew. We are close to many of the folks you talked about. And so we are engaged more broadly in treatment efforts. The settlements primarily impact municipal drinking water mix season. That's just not an area we've historically been focused in. So no the short answer is that's not a key focus for us Andrew and hasn't been and likely won't be. Where our technology will really play well is when there's high concentrations of PFAS and concerns around short-chain and long-chain molecules and a desire to kind of focus on a lower footprint and impact as part of the treatment process. So the short answer is that's not a key focus. It hasn't been and is not a key focus for us. But we do think there's sustained push. One of the interesting themes that Allan, Todd and I have been talking about is the regulations that have come out have very much been in favor of kind of our broader technology portfolio. But how our clients react to the uncertainty on the regulations and the ability to measure, it is going to be something we watch closely. So, short answer is no, the settlements don't really swing our outlook all that much this year or next.

Andrew Obin

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Got you. Thank you. And just a follow-up for Remediation and Reuse. I think just looking at our model, it just implies material acceleration into the second half. And just sort of -- I think you've touched on it but just to confirm you have visibility obviously on the projects to sort of support this view. A, is that the right way of thinking about it? And B, how is the pipeline near-term?

Allan Dicks

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Yeah. Hey, Andrew, it's Allan.

Andrew Obin

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Yes. How are you?

Allan Dicks

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Good. Thanks. We do expect the back half of the year for that segment to be up over the front half but it's Matrix is driving, a pretty substantial part of that. As Vijay has said, our Biogas business with the pivot will likely be down year-over-year. And then the ECT2 business the Water business is likely to be -- have a similar back half to the front half of the year.

Andrew Obin

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Okay.

Allan Dicks

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

So, no. Yeah. They have the building work.

Andrew Obin

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Yeah, I'll take it offline. Thanks so much.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed.

Thanks, Andrew.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Stephanie Yee with JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Stephanie Yee

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Hi. Good morning.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Hey, Stephanie.

Stephanie Yee

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed.

I wanted to ask about the comments around some of the PFAS projects being pushed out by the clients. I think maybe I missed it last quarter but I thought some of the project timing shift was due to the tremendous growth that you guys saw in the prior year and so giving the team time to kind of absorb some of those projects. So I'm just wondering if kind of the project timelines that we're hearing about this quarter it was something that developed in the quarter, or was it just something that was ongoing that you didn't necessarily call out in the prior quarter?

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Hey, Stephanie, this is Vijay. Why don't I take that one? So you're exactly right. We grew call it over 100% organically in 2022. So when we talked about at the end of last year and the early part of this year even as part of the guidance discussions what this year would look like. We wanted to make sure that that team got their legs under them, just given the incredible growth last year and the fact that they -- the team's size almost tripled and the project's scale and scope and geographies expanded materially. And our desire was really not only for team reasons, but also for quality and systems control reasons. So that is absolutely still true. What we were alluding to regarding the regulations is that, as the certainty around those continues to expand which has happened right not only in Q1, but also in Q2 and there's more clarity on how the EPA has been regulated, being able to measure at four parts per trillion or lower or getting down to all the short-chain and long-chain compounds, the analytics capability there is a little stretched. And so, what our clients are talking to us about is, even with these compliance standards, how do I know I'm there? And how is this going to get regulated? And how do I think about these solutions going in as a result of that? Even though, our demand cycle is higher, the execution and start of these projects is slower if that makes any sense. And it's largely around -- it's largely around trying to react to not only what the standards are which absolutely favors us, but now a more practical question of like how do I get there? And how do I even measure it and know that I'm there?

Stephanie Yee

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Okay. Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then just on the acquisition that you announced in Denmark. Does that kind of double the size of ECT2 presence in Europe? And does it kind of give you a platform for further [indiscernible] in Europe?

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Yes. Our European footprint is still very small. So we're talking about kind of a dozen people or so working on various select projects. We've been very cautious Stephanie, as you know, expanding into the European geography, more for operational reasons really. There's a lot of demand there clearly and they're very forward-leaning on regulations, particularly PFAS regulations. But the short answer is, yes. It does increase the size of that team, our project reach and our ability to continue expanding there. Absolutely.

Stephanie Yee

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Okay. Thank you.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Thanks, Stephanie.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Wade Suki with Capital One. Please proceed.

Wade Suki

Analyst · Capital One. Please proceed.

Good morning, everyone. I've got worse -- just hate to dwell on Matrix too much. But I was wondering, if you could talk a little bit more about revenue top line synergies. And I gather there may be parts of the business -- I might be misunderstood on this, but maybe parts of the business that are more or less attractive and just trying to think about that sort of in the context of growth looking out to 2024.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · Capital One. Please proceed.

Yes. I'll talk conceptually about the revenue side and then Allan certainly jump in on kind of what the outlook looks like. We -- this team is an exceptional team of scientists and engineers weighed a lot like what we have on the remediation and consulting side here in the United States. And so, as we look at -- I'll give you a couple of simple examples. As we look at our energy and utility companies on the West and some of the expertise that we need, as we continue to meet demand cycles in the United States. Or we look at some of the energy companies and the work we're doing, both stateside and in Canada. These teams are very complementary to each other, right in terms of the depth of expertise and understanding as to how the hydrogeology works or how the environmental regulations work. And so when we talk about revenue synergies, we're talking about cross-utilizing staff for our clients in projects that kind of switch between both the Canadian and the U.S. marketplace. Does that make sense?

Wade Suki

Analyst · Capital One. Please proceed.

Yes, absolutely. That's great.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · Capital One. Please proceed.

Okay. And then they also -- and when you say parts of the business that we find attractive they are -- we find all of the business attractive. I mean, they are not only remediation experts, but they also have a depth of expertise and a growing portfolio with things like greenhouse gas assessment and mitigation with water and water resource management. And so we talked a couple of quarters ago about acquisitions we had made. Small, but very strategic ones in Northern California focused on very similar issues. And so that's another example of where there's going to be complementarity between the two teams. So, we're really bullish for a host of reasons, and we continue to see that as a platform for us to expand both in the Canadian and U.S. markets. As far as outlook for next year, our focus right now, Wade, is really more on getting their margins to where the rest of our business is. But the revenue synergy is already in flight. There are -- the teams are already working really well together and we expect that to continue.

Wade Suki

Analyst · Capital One. Please proceed.

Okay. Perfect. Thank you. And just switching gears a little bit here. You've put a couple of teasers out here in the press release and presentation on software. I'm wondering if you could expand a little bit more on what you're doing on that front. That would be fantastic.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · Capital One. Please proceed.

Yes. It's a fair question. We haven't talked about it as much. We -- with the acquisition of Sensible EDP, we began more formally talking about the aggregation of data and the presentation of environmental data for our clients across environmental media starting with air, Wade. And what we're seeing is that on the real-time measurement of greenhouse gases and other contaminants like ethylene oxide that capability is really playing to our advantage. And so what I mean by that is we are one of the largest air testing firms in the world and we're able to put together our source leak fence line ambient capabilities, and we're able to present that information in real-time to our clients and as needed to communities that the clients are around. And so that's a pretty substantive technological advantage and it's manifesting itself in our numbers. And the reason we talk about it more now is because it's starting to show up in a more meaningful way and it's moving the dial on our Measurement and Analysis segment. Does that make sense?

Wade Suki

Analyst · Capital One. Please proceed.

Absolutely. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Congrats again.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst · Capital One. Please proceed.

Thanks Wade. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is a follow-up from Jim Ricchiuti with Needham & Company. Please proceed.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst

Hi, Jim.

Operator

Operator

Hello, sir. Your line is live.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Sorry about that. Allan I just want to ask about the step-up in SG&A in the quarter. How much of that just possibly due to the increase in M&A activity, or just maybe in broad strokes how we might be thinking about SG&A going forward?

Allan Dicks

Analyst

Yes. Jim, there's a pretty robust breakdown in the Q that will be `d later today. But at a high level, it's driven by G&A from acquisitions. It's driven by -- there was a change that we've made in the classification of certain of our back-office folks that used to be very decentralized. And as we've centralized those functions, they're acting more like G&A than as an operational cost of sale. And so there is a switch this year versus how it was classified in the prior year. And again, those numbers are broken out. And then yes, acquisition costs are higher than last year, just given the higher activity this year?

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

And then on a go-forward basis, is there anything we should keep in mind about your SG&A just with the scaling of the business?

Allan Dicks

Analyst

Yes. Again, the way we look at it, Jim, is separating out kind of the corporate SG&A. And again, our commitment has been to keep that at or below 6%. And for the full year this year, we do expect it to be lower than 6% and declining, as we've said in the future years. And then the SG&A that resides within operations, that is slightly more fixed, right, again, given the nature of fixed rentals and the back-office support folks that still reside in operations. They really just got inflationary increases that drive those. It's not so much driven by an increase in revenue. So you should see that also be a more modest increase year-over-year going forward.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Final question for me, and I apologize if you gave this. I've got a couple of calls going on. But just wondering about, if you can if you gave any color on the nature and the contribution of the emergency response work that contributed to the performance of CTH in the quarter. And I guess the other thing to keep in mind here is the profile, the margin profile of this business, the work that they're doing is better margin certainly than we've seen in the recent past. Is that correct?

Allan Dicks

Analyst

Yes, that's right. That's right, Jim. The environmental response work is higher margin than last year, right, particularly in the first half when we had COVID that was more prominent service stream. I mean these numbers are in the queue, Jim. But if you think about kind of their typical cadence at 85 midpoint of kind of low 20-ish million of revenue a quarter, they were closer to 38% for the quarter, right? So they're substantially elevated and those margins are much more similar to the normalized 25% margin levels that we would expect for them. And do you expect them to return back to that normal cadence of kind of 20 to 25 a quarter in the back half of the year, Jim.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Allan Dicks

Analyst

Thanks, Jim.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Vijay Manthri Pragada for any closing remarks.

Vijay Manthripragada

Analyst

Thank you. Thank you all for the time and for the interest in Montrose and we're really excited about the rest of the year, and we're looking forward to our next conversation with you. Thank you again

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect.