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Mercury General Corporation (MCY)

Q4 2013 Earnings Call· Mon, Feb 10, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Candice, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Mercury General Quarterly Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions) This conference call may contain forward-looking statements based on current plans, expectations, events, and financial and industry trends, which may affect Mercury General's future operating results and financial position. Such statements involve risks and uncertainties which cannot be predicted or quantified and which may cause future activities and results of operations to differ materially from those discussed here today. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Gabriel Tirador. Sir, please go ahead.

Gabriel Tirador

Management

Thank you very much. I would like to welcome everyone to Mercury's fourth quarter conference call. I am Gabe Tirador, President and CEO. In the room with me is Mr. George Joseph, Chairman; Ted Stalick, Senior Vice President and CFO; Robert Houlihan, Vice President and Chief Product Officer, and Chris Graves, Vice President and Chief Investment Officer. Before we take questions, we will make a few comments regarding the quarter. Our fourth quarter operating earnings were $0.33 per share compared to an operating loss of $0.17 per share in the fourth of quarter of 2012. Premiums written grew 2% in the quarter, primarily due to higher average premiums per policy as a result of rate increases. Operating earnings improved during the quarter, primarily because our fourth quarter 2012 results were negatively impacted by Hurricane Sandy and adverse loss reserve development. For the entire year, our operating earnings were $2.18 per share, compared to $1.34 per share in 2012, a 63% improvement. Premiums written for the year were up 2.9%. The improvement in 2013 was largely the result of improved profitability in states outside of California due to rate and underwriting actions taken over the past few years, fewer catastrophe losses and asset risk development on prior period loss reserves. For the full-year, we recorded $3 million of adverse reserve development compared to $42 million in 2012. Although our year-over-year results showed progress, our quarterly operating results deteriorated on a sequential basis from $0.53 per share in the third quarter of 2013 to $0.33 per share in the fourth quarter, making the fourth quarter our worst performing quarter of the year. The combined ratio was 102.5% in the fourth quarter, compared to 99.2% in the third quarter of 2013. The fourth quarter is typically our worst performing quarter due to weather…

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from Vincent DeAugustino with KBW. Your line is now open.

Vincent DeAugustino - KBW

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. The first question would be on the auto rate decreases that you had you mentioned within the six markets. I was just wondering if you could comment perhaps on the magnitude and then what markets this should represent or at least what percentage of premiums these markets in totality would be?

Gabriel Tirador

Management

To your first question, that range is from a low of 3% to a high of 14%, I believe, over double-digit, so there's a quite a bit of range with respect to the decrease and the two biggest markets that we’re reducing rates is Florida and Texas. In Florida, the reduction was about 10% and, Texas, I think was a similar amount. Florida and Texas represent our two biggest markets outside of California.

Vincent DeAugustino - KBW

Analyst

Just what the press release noting that Florida was kind of this year a bit of a hurdle with the reserve development I assume that given the rate movement, that would kind of imply that you guys are pretty comfortable with Florida for 2014, just given the rate intentions there?

Gabriel Tirador

Management

One of the reasons that Florida results deteriorated had to do with some old litigation that the industry lost and we had to set up some reserves for that. Ted, do you want to elaborate on that?

Ted Stalick

Analyst

Yes. 2008 through mid-2012 accident year for the PIP coverage there were some adverse cases weighing against the industry on a [inaudible]versus mandatory issues for PIP, so the company went back and reevaluated those accident years, and that's where the development came from. Going forward, that's not really an issue and that's why we are able to reduce the rate.

Vincent DeAugustino - KBW

Analyst

Okay. That's good. The color there was really helpful. As far as kind of changing gears a little bit and a question with the pending case that's in front of ALJ right now. And what I am kind of curious on is, from what I understand one of the potential outcomes on the table would be suspension of Mercury's California license if the case kind of doesn't go in your favor, so for me that seems pretty drastic and I'm just wondering is that a real possibility or is that just kind of the department pounding the table at this point?

Gabriel Tirador

Management

Well, I think that the likelihood of that happening is not high in my opinion. That's something that they put into the notice of non-compliance which is what I think that you are referring to.

Vincent DeAugustino - KBW

Analyst

Yeah.

Gabriel Tirador

Management

Vincent, I don't think that the likelihood of that occurring is very high.

Vincent DeAugustino - KBW

Analyst

Okay. That's good. As far as just reading through the brief, they talk about potentially about 50 to 100 basis points, kind of the total amount that was thrown out, is that something that we should think about. Again, if it doesn't go in your favor kind of is the maximum adverse scenario then just to kind of frame the magnitude on our end?

Gabriel Tirador

Management

I am not sure what you are referring to is couple of hundred basis points Vincent to be honest with you, with respect to this, to the notice of non-compliance, I am not familiar with what you are referring to the couple of hundred basis points.

Vincent DeAugustino - KBW

Analyst

Yes. Sorry. It wasn't a couple of hundred basis points. It was 0.5% to 1% of the total calculated fine that I believe was at $1.8 billion, so you know the math will work out to be somewhere between, I guess, max $18 million-type thing, so I was just trying to look at the brief and gauge how bad could it be, which I am just trying to get some insight even though you may not be able to handicap it just yet?

Gabriel Tirador

Management

We feel pretty good about the case overall. It's hard to, as you point out, handicap. I will note that this case has been thrown out once before and it went back to the Commissioner and the Commissioner sent it back to the ALJ to hear the case. Overall, we feel pretty good where we are at and our defense of the case, so it's hard to handicap what's going to happen, but we feel good about where we stand right now.

Vincent DeAugustino - KBW

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your next question comes from Alison Jacobowitz with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Alison Jacobowitz - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Thanks. A couple of questions. I was wondering if you could talk about what other actions you are taking in the homeowners' business besides raising prices to improve those results, and I was just wondering if you could talk a little more about the expense ratio given the restructuring and how you are thinking about that going forward, and maybe other actions you are taking there generally, where you expect to see that going?

Gabriel Tirador

Management

Robert, you want to take on the homeowner and some of the things that we have done on the homeowner side?

Robert Houlihan

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Yes. We have done several things, Alison, [in addition] [ph] to the rate increases. We have also instituted some risk management measures, we look at a number of metrics relative to the concentration of the business when the concentration goes above –a threshold that we consider appropriate, we require an action plan to address that. We've also entered into the reinsurance market last year as well.

Gabriel Tirador

Management

With respect to the expense ratio on some of the other things that we have done, we have modified our commission structure outside of California, to pay our agents basically a competitive commission based on the individual relationship the agent has with the company. Currently, we pay above average industry commissions and with this change our commissions will remain very competitive, but our expectation is that overall commissions are expected to decline.

Alison Jacobowitz - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And we have no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back to our presenters.

Gabriel Tirador

Management

Well, we would like to thank everyone for listening in today on the fourth quarter conference call. We hope to bring better results in the first quarter of 2014. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.