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Marchex, Inc. (MCHX)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Sun, May 7, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. Thank you for attending today’s Marchex Q1 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Cole, and I will be your moderator for today’s call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. [Operator Instructions] I’d now like to pass the conference over to our host, Trevor Caldwell, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Strategic Initiatives. Please proceed.

Trevor Caldwell

Analyst

Thanks, Cole. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Marchex’s business update and first quarter 2023 conference call. Joining us today are Edwin Miller, our CEO; and Michael Arends, our Vice Chairman. Before we get started, I would like to take this opportunity to remind you that our remarks today will include forward-looking statements, including references to our financial and operational performance and actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. Risks and uncertainties that could cause these results to differ materially are set forth in today’s earnings press release and in our most recent annual and quarterly report filed with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today and we undertake no obligation to update these statements for subsequent events. During this call, we will present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today’s earnings press release. The earnings press release is available on the Investor Relations section of our website. At this time, I’d like to turn the call over to Edwin.

Edwin Miller

Analyst

Thank you, Trevor. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I’d like to start by giving you an update on my experience over the last couple of months. When I joined Marchex in February, my first priority was getting to know the team and meeting as many customers as possible across the country. From that mission, I learned two important things. First, Marchex has world-class talent with deep industry expertise. Second, our customers love and trust Marchex to meet the urgent challenges facing their businesses. Time and again, I heard how much they lean on us to navigate big and increasingly complicated problems. I’ve been in the technology world for most of my career, so seeing these two proof points firsthand makes me certain that we are an important and valuable market. Marchex is at an interesting inflection point. Right now, several industries which are core to our business are struggling with significant industry shifts along with innovation disruptors that are redesigning their purchase funnels. And the auto vertical for instance, the entire industry is transforming because of the rise of electrical vehicles. New and more nimble competitors have put tremendous pressure on the legacy leaders to evolve. In auto, it’s Tesla, a home services, it’s new CRM systems and massive consolidation, driving disruption, and that’s just the starting point. Other dominant players and multi-billion dollar verticals are experiencing similar disruptions due to the changing consumer expectations and the arrival of AI. Here’s where it gets exciting. Every one of these companies needs conversational intelligence to unlock the insight needed to inform what is required to successfully transform their businesses. This is what will open the door to their future growth. Right now, we have a real opportunity to build out a significantly larger business. The intelligence…

Michael Arends

Analyst

Thank you, Edwin. For the first quarter, revenue was $12.2 million versus $13.2 million for the same quarter last year. The quarter was characterized by continued pressure on conversation volumes due to the macroeconomic environment impacting certain customer types. There was continued pressure with our small business listing and solution providers that mostly sell marketing services to local businesses as they faced greater customer churn compared to 2022. This trend manifested over the latter part of 2022 and has continued into 2023. On the new business front, and as Edwin noted, we recently won a new multi-year automotive brand relationship that we expect will onboard in the summer timeframe and we also extended another automotive brand relationship in a competitive process into a multi-year framework. We also won a multi-year extension with one of our small business services customers. And as we look forward into this year, we see several customer expansion opportunities and believe we will continue to build momentum as the year unfolds. We expect this will set us up well for future years. Now, I’ll dive into this in more detail in a moment when I discuss further guidance for 2023. Turning to the P&L for the first quarter. Excluding stock-based compensation, amortization of intangible assets and acquisition or disposition related costs, total operating costs for the first quarter were $15.4 million compared to $13.5 million for the first quarter of 2022. And during the quarter, we incurred certain costs associated with reorganizing and modifying operating activities totaling approximately $800,000. These were primarily in sales and marketing related to personnel, facility and systems expenditures. We expect to incur additional restructuring expenses in the second quarter. Service costs were $5.4 million for the first quarter, which decreased from the fourth quarter of 2022. Service costs increased year-over-year in…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Darren Aftahi with ROTH MKM. Your line is now open.

Darren Aftahi

Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First I guess, Edwin, good to meet you. I guess, with a few months under your belt is your – under CEO, maybe can you just kind of highlight some of the biggest opportunities you see from Marchex and maybe some of the more near-term challenges?

Edwin Miller

Analyst

Sure. I mean, I’ve probably met 20 clients now or so, and I’m booked to travel almost every week through the end of July with other clients. I think the biggest opportunity in this market we believe is the fact that you got to close the loop of invested dollars and what that drives in terms of sales and mark up through marketing. It’s not going to slow down. The pace is very high. And the second thing, I would say, it’s very exciting – is the – even as I jump between vertical markets here, the business problems are the same and the innovation needs for them are the same.

Darren Aftahi

Analyst

Great. Another one, if I may. I know Q1 a little bit challenging economically you guys talked about conversation volumes being down. I’m kind of curious quarter-to-date through April, how conversation trends have kind of better, worse, neutral?

Michael Arends

Analyst

Hi, Darren, this is Mike. Thanks for the question. I think in our commentary, our prepared remarks, we mentioned briefly that in especially with some of our small customers or the small service business listing customers that focus on solutions for local businesses. They’ve seen churn and on a year-over-year basis relative to what they were in 2022, they saw some declines especially in the fourth quarter of 2022 relative to comparable year-over-year periods. And the first quarter of 2023 and in the prepared remarks we mentioned, we’ve seen some of that continuing on. Now compensating and offsetting that, I think we mentioned some of the extensions of the relationships we highlighted one of the major relationships with a major OEM in the automotive area in the fourth quarter that we signed extended for the longest term that we’ve had in our history. We were in a fortunate position in the first quarter, again, with a major brand OEM customer where we were able to extend another one. And very importantly, we signed a new brand, a new OEM relationship that we haven’t worked with in the past and we look into the summer months of 2023 and look into the path of bringing those on board and starting to ramp, so that it’ll provide the benefit in the second half of the year. With those relationships, we now hold access with all of our auto OEM customers to touchpoints where we could reach over 8,500 auto dealerships. And we are still in the nascent stages of touching them, but we’ve made some great strides in the last nine to 12 months in terms of outreaching and onboarding direct dealer engagement relationships with our direct to dealer automotive products. Those trends are also moving in a positive direction. And what I’ll reiterate with that is, we do see progression on both the profitability side, we see progression also on the revenue side, but those trends in the automotive in particular, we think by the end of 2023, we may be at a point where we can see double-digit year-over-year revenue growth at the end of the year of 2023. And clearly, that helps set the stage for the future. And Darren, I’ll reiterate, this is all in recognition and cognition of it is a challenging economic environment out there for all companies, including us. But we’re giving those insights with visibility as we see it through 2023. So that should give some level of comfort as we do see those minimum commitment levels from certain customers.

Darren Aftahi

Analyst

That’s helpful. Mike, if I could dovetail back to some comments you made about growth throughout 2023 I just wanted to kind of clarify. Are you still expecting the same sort of cadence of a softer 4Q relative to historical trends? And then as it pertains to growth throughout 2023, is – I guess, what’s over-indexing? Is this some of these newer deals you’ve won, like, this auto OEM or is it renewals that are driving that? And I guess in terms of your commentary, like, how much line of sight do you have in that actual growth?

Michael Arends

Analyst

And this is where obviously economic environment and the impact there can help float moving things ahead if the economy improves further. But with what we see today and what commitments we have from the customers today, there’s three primary points that we see a framework for our opportunity on a go forward basis. We have the seasonal element where we do benefit generally in the summertime period relative to the fourth quarter. So yes, seasonally, that fourth quarter could be down. But offsetting that, and part of the reason why we think there can be this progress not just in the second quarter, but as we progress into the back half of the year and see growth in the back half of the year relative to the first half is because we’ve got existing customer relationships that are leaning in and need solutions to help deal with their customer experiences from an AI perspective, from an analysis perspective to help them with how to better themselves and also how to sell more. Those are the overriding thesis, and that’s not just across the automotive vertical, it’s across services, it’s across home services, it’s in healthcare, it’s in some of the other areas that we work in today. In addition to that, we’re seeing this trend where we are with a pipeline able to consummate and have been consummating some new relationships, some of them fairly significant, and some of those are in process of either onboarding or we expect to see them on board in the next number of months or the coming periods of time. And then the third, which is a very interesting area for us that we haven’t done a lot with except for the last couple of years is on the direct dealer basis or an individual retail location or dealer location, we’ve been able to sell products into that market and we’re selling more today than we have in the past. And we think that cohort and that progress there is something that can also help move us and make us progress. And so when you bring all of those things together with the minimum commitment levels especially that some of the multi-year long-term contracts have, we do see a stage where things are going to progress here and we’re hopeful that we can see some acceleration to be determined.

Edwin Miller

Analyst

Yes. No, I would just add to that, Darren, there’s a fourth component that we’re working on where we really haven’t done channel distribution in the past or partnerships. And we’ve got some good conversations I believe that will help us possibly get to market, not just with our direct sales force, but through partners, large partners and smaller partners.

Darren Aftahi

Analyst

That’s helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Darren. Our next question is from Vivek Palani with JMN Investments Research. Your line is now open.

Vivek Palani

Analyst

Hi, I’m Vivek on behalf of Mike Latimore of Northland Capital. So my first question is, there are lots of news about generative AI, so is it prompting any trials and RFPs?

Edwin Miller

Analyst

Yes. Hey, thank you for the question. I – we are actively number one, I’m excited about what’s happening around AI and space. It’s going to allow us to bring better solutions to our clients and they look for us to do that, so that’s exciting. I think the – at the end of the day, it’s a very positive thing for us. We are engaged in looking at OpenAI, ChatGPT you pick it with licenses. So we’re on top of that and excited about what can do for our client.

Vivek Palani

Analyst

So as it brought any RFPs?

Edwin Miller

Analyst

Pardon me.

Vivek Palani

Analyst

No. Is it prompting any RFPs like request for proposals?

Edwin Miller

Analyst

We are – look, what we are doing right now is I think people are trying to understand and play with it. We got that in our lab, we’re playing with it. I haven’t seen an RFP from any client around specifically that as of yet, but embedding and leveraging the technology to create innovative solutions for our clients is where we’re focused.

Vivek Palani

Analyst

Okay. So my second question is, is auto still about 25% of revenue?

Michael Arends

Analyst

Yes. This is Mike. That’s correct, yes.

Vivek Palani

Analyst

Okay. And my last question is have you had any sales via the UCaaS and CRM partners?

Michael Arends

Analyst

So I think the question was have we had any sales via UCaaS partners? And this is Mike again. Edwin was just speaking when he was talking about one of the opportunities for our future. We don’t have a lot of depth today with sales resulting from channel partnerships, but it is a key area of thought and progress and likely area that will facilitate with some of our product offerings and just the way we allow our products to be accessed for the future. And there’s multiple plays in there. UCaaS is absolutely a channel that could be one of the plays within that, but I don’t want us or you to be thinking that we’re limited in terms of that being the only channel partnership. And interestingly, it has been an area that we forayed into with discussions we’ll see in 2023, whether those discussions translate into fruitful and productive actual engagements with partnerships that can onboard and generate additional customer base for us. But it’s certainly a path that we’re looking into and believe can be a meaningful opportunity in the intermediate to long-term.

Vivek Palani

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Edwin Miller

Analyst

Yes. And I’ll just add [indiscernible] I really do believe that there’s a very viable path for partners a great question. We’ve got a motion going in inside the business now to ascertain and understand how to develop that. There have been to Mike’s points conversations in the past, and I’ll say that we have products one in particular that is very well suited for a larger go-to-market. And the last point on this is Troy Hartless who joined as our Chief Revenue Officer actually was Head of Sales and Product for [indiscernible] so he’s got great experience in the [indiscernible] and so we’re minding that as well.

Vivek Palani

Analyst

Okay. Well, that’s it from my side. Thank you.

Edwin Miller

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Vivek. There are no additional questions waiting. So I’ll pass the conference over to the management team for any closing remarks.

Edwin Miller

Analyst

Okay. Well, thank you, everyone for joining us. We look forward to updating you in the coming months with data. So thanks again.

Operator

Operator

That concludes the conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your line.