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Microchip Technology Incorporated (MCHP)

Q2 2010 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 5, 2009

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Operator

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Microchip Technology's second quarter and fiscal year 2010 financial results conference call. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Microchip's Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Eric Bjornholt. Please go ahead, sir.

Eric Bjornholt

Management

Good afternoon, everyone. During the course of this conference call we will be making projections and other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the Company. We wish to caution you that such statements or predictions and that actual events or results may differ materially. We refer you to our press release of today as well as our recent filings with the SEC that identify important risk factors that may impact Microchip's business and results of operations. Net sales for the September quarter were $226.7 million, up approximately 17.5% from net sales of $192.9 million in the immediately preceding quarter. On a geographic basis, revenue in the Americas was up 13% in the September quarter, Europe was up 10% and Asia was up 23.8%. Revenue in all geographies exceeded the expectations we had entering the quarter. Europe was exceptionally strong in what is typically a down quarter for that region. Asia continues to be our largest geographic region, representing 51.3% of sales in the September quarter. The Americas were 24.7% of sales, and Europe was 24% of sales. These measurements are based on where the product is delivered for manufacturing purposes for our customers. That does not necessarily represent where the design activity is taking place or where the end product consumption is occurring. We are continuing to include information on our press release on various GAAP and non-GAAP measures. We have posted a full GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation on our Investor Relations page of our Web site at www.microchip.com, which we believe you will find useful when comparing GAAP and non-GAAP results. Non-GAAP net income for the second quarter of fiscal year 2010 was $53.2 million or $0.29 per diluted share, an increase of 51.9% from non-GAAP net income of $35 million or $0.19 per…

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone. I will now comment on the individual product lines. All three of our product lines, Microcontrollers, Analog and Serial EEPROMs delivered outstanding growth in the September quarter. We are seeing the results of our strategy to stay invested in our new product development and demand creation resources during the global recession. By employing a shared sacrifice of pay cuts instead of resorting to mass layoffs like many of our competitors did, we believe, we are seeing the leading edge of differentiated revenue growth and operating profit results. Let's now take a closer look at each of our product lines, starting with Microcontrollers. Our Microcontroller business delivered superb results and was up a strong 16.6% on a sequential basis. Flash Microcontrollers represented approximately 80.9% of our Microcontroller business in the September quarter. Our 8-bit Microcontroller business had another excellent quarter as all segments of our 8-bit product line experienced very strong growth. Our 16-bit microcontroller business achieved another record for quarterly revenue with very strong sequential growth of 49.1% as well as 70.3% growth from the year-ago quarter. New customers and new designs going to production continue to help drive growth as a number of volume 16-bit customers grew by 208 customers to 2,050. Our 32-bit microcontroller product line meanwhile continues to make good progress with 56% sequential growth, albeit on a small revenue base and well over 100 customers who are now involved in production. Moving to development tools, we had another record quarter with 38,086 development tools shipped in the September quarter. Development tools sales are an excellent leading indicator of continued strong design in activity and acceptance of our solutions by our customers and should bode well for future growth. Now moving to our analog business, here too, we delivered outstanding…

Steve Sanghi

Management

Thank you, Ganesh, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, I would like to first reflect on the results of the September quarter then I will talk about our guidance for December 2009 quarter and also discuss our internal plan for calendar year 2010. Reflecting on the September quarter, I want to thank the entire Microchip team for delivering a flawless quarter in every respect. We beat the upper end of our revised revenue guidance by a significant margin, achieving a 17.5% sequential growth, marking our strongest sequential quarter, growth quarter in over 15 years. We also beat the upper end of our gross margin guidance. We continued to deliver solid improvements in operating expense, executing on our plan to deliver incremental leverage in this area of our business. And on earnings per share, we beat the upper end of our guidance on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis by $0.02 per share. Our GAAP EPS grew by over 60% sequentially and our non-GAAP EPS grew by over 50% sequentially. We have been profitable for 76 consecutive quarters, and the December quarter will be our 77th quarter. Our inventory dropped sequentially by 12 days to 96 days. We begin to grow factory output aggressively in the September quarter and will continue to do so in the current quarter. We generated $96.6 million in free cash flow, prior to paying our industry high dividend. After paying the dividend, we added $34.6 million in cash to our treasury. We also resumed nudging the dividend up on a quarterly basis, as you saw in our press release today. I would also like to add that we have now returned over $1 billion to the shareholders in the form of dividend since we began paying dividends over six years ago. And that has to be a…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. (Operator instructions) And our first question will come from JoAnne Feeney with FTN.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Go ahead, Joann. JoAnne Feeney – FTN: I was hoping you could perhaps elaborate a little bit on the prices in the industry where you think you're gaining share in 16-bit. I realize you don't have great detail on your end markets, but perhaps you could let us know if it's similar to the distribution of interest you have in your 8-bit products by, say, is it consumer, industrial, automotive, or is it quite a bit different? Any details you can provide would be very helpful. Thanks a lot.

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

The composition is across a broad range of applications and markets. In that sense it’s similar to how our 8-bit business is. There are obviously certain applications where the 16-bit performance is a requirement that we're able to meet and those are the areas where we're taking some incremental share. But really it's not concentrated anywhere. It's a pretty broad base of areas we're winning our designs. JoAnne Feeney – FTN: And are you doing the same thing with 32-bit, targeting a broad spectrum or is it more focused?

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

It is, again a broad spectrum of designs that we're going up. We've always been about not trying to find a single market, a single application upon which to hang our hat and while we do see areas that are growing at different rates, it's really across a broad spectrum of applications. JoAnne Feeney – FTN: Okay. Thank you.

Steve Sanghi

Management

We're shipping to 2,000 volume customers on 16-bit. And our over 100 volume customers on 32-bit. So that alone tells you that it's very broad-based.

Operator

Operator

Chris Danely – JPMorgan: Thanks. I know you guys usually comment that whenever we ask you about end markets or regions, it's a very broad base, but given what's happened this year, can you just give us your take on what's so strong in Asia? I would suspect that it's China. And then also if you could comment at all on the automotive market and what you're seeing there?

Steve Sanghi

Management

Last quarter, we saw very broad-based strength around the world. As Eric pointed out, European business was up 10% in the summer quarter where they take the August off, so usually Europe business is down in the quarter. Obviously, from a sequential revenue growth standpoint, China was the strongest, but we grew in the rest of Asia also by very large amount and U.S. was also very up significantly and we grew in all different market segments. Yes, we did very well in automotive because for cash for clunkers and others, but similarly we did very well in consumer, industrial, communication and others. Chris Danely – JPMorgan: Thanks. I'll get back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

Next, we'll hear from Uche Orji with UBS. Uche Orji – UBS: Thank you very much. Steve, first of all, thank you very much for providing us the insight for 2010 plans. Let me just try to dissect that a little bit. How much of your 2010 plans will be driven by new products? And within the existing products, what are your assumptions for areas such as automotive and industrial for 2010, so I just kind of understand. Because you're implying I think the mid points for December guidance you're implying a calendar upside of as much as 26% for 2010. So I just like to see if I can break that down between new products and what's happening with existing products, thank you.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Well, Uche, in average, a design cycle for Microchip's microcontroller and analog products are anywhere from nine months to two years plus. We are here in November. I don't think any of our growth next year comes from new products that we don't exist today. It could be a very small number, something we're just introducing in the next month, may create a small amount of revenue in calendar Q4. So all of our next year's revenue largely comes from products that are in production, we've been incubating it for a year to two years, they're design wins and they're really proceeding down the path of going to production. Uche Orji – UBS: And then, so if you can break down for me your expectation for automotive, industrial and other markets for 2010 in terms of what's driving that internal plan.

Steve Sanghi

Management

I can't even do that for last quarter actual, forget about the next year. Don't have any ability to do that across 63,000 customers, and with 60% of our revenue coming from distributors. Uche Orji – UBS: Fair enough. Can I ask one more question?

Steve Sanghi

Management

Yes. Uche Orji – UBS: In terms of your touch product, can you give me an idea how much progress you're making there? And if I look into Q4, they're just so many other people talking about what they're doing in touch and I know you've been very active in this area, so can you talk about your competitive positioning and how you see your products progressing through Q4 and possibly into 2010? Thanks.

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

So, I think we've given you some color last quarter on the number of customers that were in production and the number that were well along the way in terms of the design in cycle. Those numbers have grown. Since that time obviously some of the customers we were working with have gone to production. So the production numbers have gone up and the number of customers that are working on design wins have also gone up. The progression is on a path that we're happy with. Our touch is differentiated from competitive alternatives in several ways. First of all, we offer customers the ability for them to customize the touch solutions using the software that we provide. Second of all, we provide the lowest power consumption when our products are used in touch solutions as compared to our competitive alternatives. So in portable and power sensitive applications, we have the best power consumption for those touch applications. Thirdly, our touch works across a broad range of our Microcontrollers, so you can pick the microcontroller that is appropriate for what you're trying to do in your applications and add touch to it, which also allows customer to cost reduce without having to have a microcontroller run the application and a separate microcontroller to run touch, which is how many of the competitive alternatives are set up to be. And lastly, we offer a broad range of touch alternatives. We have capacity touch capability, we have inductive touch capability, and we have touch screen capability. So based on the application and the need, we have multiple solutions available for a customer to achieve their objectives with touch in their application. Uche Orji – UBS: Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Moving on to James Schneider with Goldman Sachs. James Schneider – Goldman Sachs: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I guess on the 2010 outlook, put it another way, could you give us a sense of what assumption you use for either microcontroller industry growth or overall semiconductor industry growth in getting to that revenue number?

Steve Sanghi

Management

We don't care about the semiconductor industry growth or the microcontroller growth. Our results are highly differentiated. They have been in the years past and we built this much more driven by the products we have in the market, the design pipeline at the rate of winning and using the metrics that are time tested regarding what portion we win and go to production, and what time frame. James Schneider – Goldman Sachs: Understand. So, much more bottoms up driven than tops down.

Steve Sanghi

Management

That's right. James Schneider – Goldman Sachs: And then just a follow-up on the OpEx, if I look at the kind of implied OpEx GAAP dollars run rate, Eric, about $77.5 per quarter for calendar year 2010, how should we think about how that grows from current levels in SG&A versus R&D?

Steve Sanghi

Management

Well, we haven't broken that out specifically, but we're going to make prudent investments in the business that are required to grow it. So I guess the expectation would be is that sales and marketing and R&D would grow at a faster clip than G&A. But other than that, I don't think we can give you a lot of guidance. James Schneider – Goldman Sachs: Fair enough. Thanks very much.

Eric Bjornholt

Management

Welcome.

Operator

Operator

Moving on to Harsh Kumar with Morgan Keegan. Harsh Kumar – Morgan Keegan: Hey, guys, first of all, congratulations on a great quarter and great guidance. You guys are clearly doing well.

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

Thank you. Harsh Kumar – Morgan Keegan: Steve, as you look back, coming out of this recession, what were one of the two things that you think Microchip did well relative to its competitors? Was it simple case of balance sheet or new products? Anything that you think you guys are better versus your competition?

Steve Sanghi

Management

There are a lot of people in the competition, of course 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit, analog competition, so there's a large number of companies and I'm not schooled on what everybody else did in various areas so just guts to talk about what we did well. We deployed a strategy going into a recession where we're here more than a year after the global financial crisis we did not lay off a single person at Microchip anywhere in the world. And yet we gained as much expense reduction on the operating expense line as anybody. We've shown graphs in the past where we were in the top two companies or three companies of having gained the expense reductions, so we did that through lowering a lot of discretionary expenses, our worldwide, all employees were on a pay cut, we zeroed out the bonuses, so we did that through shared cuts and sacrifices rather than doing a lot of layoffs. Now, it has resulted into two advantages. Number one, in terms of employee hours spent, we stayed invested in our R&D pipeline rather than rescheduling a lot of the activities, because we kept everybody employed. And number two, we kept our demand creation effort in the marketplace and a year later as we are recovering out of the recession, we're finding a very rich, new product pipeline that we have put out in the market as well as a very large number of design wins from a significantly larger served available market through all these new products in 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit and analog. And in the manufacturing front, what we did was we gave employees rotating time off. So at the height of the recession when the capacity needs were way down, we had fab people will take every third week off unpaid. And then the following week, different one-third will go off unpaid. But everybody stayed certified. Everybody had a job. Everybody knew how to operate the equipment. We didn't layoff people. Short-term, we're getting a lot of pull-in, a lot of new orders where competitors can't supply but longer-term we're also getting new design win sockets, because they're unhappy with the competitors so they want to give the next design to us. When things are equal, we're winning it on the margin. Harsh Kumar – Morgan Keegan: That's very helpful. And Steve, I know you don't want to get into numbers on this but looking out for 2010, is there any vertical you're more excited about than the other comp, consumer, industrial, auto, any color would be helpful.

Steve Sanghi

Management

I'm excited about all of our opportunities. Harsh Kumar – Morgan Keegan: Okay. Thanks, Steve.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Welcome.

Operator

Operator

Next is Terence Whalen with Citi. Terence Whalen – Citi: Hi, thanks for taking my question. It's related to gross margin. I think you had said in the previous quarter that you thought you would get 100 basis points of gross margin expansion, both in the December and in the March quarter. My question is, do you still have any expectation or visibility into gross margin in March? Are you sticking to your expectation for at least 100 basis point margin expansion in the March quarter? Thank you.

Steve Sanghi

Management

I think if you look at the gross margin curve has been pulled in quite substantially. With the upside in revenue, our inventories became too low and all through the quarter we kept increasing our production plan. We have never increased production plans so rapidly, almost every two weeks we were adjusting the numbers as we were seeing the upside. So lot of the gross margin increase has been pulled in and there is more ahead and you can look at the difference between our December guidance to the next year guidance, there is some additional gross margin plus there is a year average, we go out of the year even higher than that. Beyond that, I don't have the granularity. It will just all depend on where we are in our guidance of 4% to 8% for this quarter and this quarter will be the very similar. We'll be changing production plan continuously, as we see any of the upside materializing. Terence Whalen – Citi: Okay, thanks, and then as the follow-up to that, I think in your $1.05 billion calendar '10 guidance that equates to about $260 million run rate plus or minus. I think in the past when you've been near $260 million per quarter, you have been right at 60% gross margin. Is there any reason not to think that you would achieve the same 60% gross margin on that level of a quarterly run rate of $262 million? Thanks.

Steve Sanghi

Management

I think I can't break it down much further. I mean, it's going to be close. I don't know if it's a little bit this way or that way. We don't expect that we will reach our peak gross margin by the end of calendar year '10. There will still be things happening. Our prior record was I think closer to 270 and the business always comes back in a slightly different mix. So some of the older capacity we have is still growing and still utilization is going up. I would think our gross margin would be rising well into fiscal year '12, most of the calendar year '11. So, I don't really have further granularity on really how close we get to that number.

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions) And our next question will come from Doug Freedman with Broadpoint. Doug Freedman – Broadpoint: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my question and I echo the congratulations on a strong quarter.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Thank you. Doug Freedman – Broadpoint: Can you give us a little bit more detail on how you go into calculating your book-to-bill numbers? I just was wondering what window of time you're looking at there.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Our book-to-bill ratio is total net orders we receive in the quarter, which is gross bookings minus any cancellations, minus any returns. So net bookings, divide that by the net revenue. Doug Freedman – Broadpoint: Your booking window, does that extend the time -

Steve Sanghi

Management

Net bookings divided by net billings. Our net billings are not equal to net revenue, because we don't recognize disti billings till they're shipped out. Doug Freedman – Broadpoint: Okay, understood. Do you accept bookings outside of a six month window? So are your bookings just the next three plus three or what are we looking at for, how far out your backlog?

Steve Sanghi

Management

We accept the bookings out sort of the six months window, yes. Doug Freedman – Broadpoint: That's what I was after. And then one other question. You mentioned that in your December quarter it has one of the fewer shipping days. How many shipping days do we pick up when we go into March? Everyone is really struggling with sort of what is seasonality going to look like this year, given that we're in such an unusual environment. Do you guys have any opinion there and just if you could offer some guidance on how many shipping days we're going to pick up in March.

Steve Sanghi

Management

So, if you look at it in round numbers, our Asia business is about half our business, a little more than half, 51.3 or something. And the U.S., Europe is other half. So, in December quarter, you missed the shipping days in U.S. and Europe. Asia usually keeps working, they don't have the Thanksgiving and Christmas, they only have one day off. Then when you go to the next quarter, U.S., Europe comes back with full shipping days but then Asia goes on Chinese New Year, large parts of Asia, China, Taiwan, Singapore, good parts of other countries, they go in Chinese New Year. Probably wash. Doug Freedman – Broadpoint: Okay. So, we would actually possibly get an impact there the first time that we're really holiday free is June, is that sort of the way to think about it?

Steve Sanghi

Management

Yes. I haven't checked the calendar where the Easter lies. Sometimes Easter is in late March, sometimes it's in April. If the Easter is in April, then you pick up a week of holidays in Europe. Good parts of Europe. Not all of it. Doug Freedman – Broadpoint: And you guys have already commented on the impact that that longer lead times have had on the availability of business for you. But can you comment on has there been any noticeable change in the landscape with the mergers and balance sheet issues that some of your competitors are facing? Are customers having those types of high level discussions with you? Any commentary you could offer there would be helpful.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Well, we talked about it last quarter. Most definitely so. And a number of incidents, where we have had inquiries, or look-ins, our designs have gone into our favor, has continued to go up. Lots of customers do not like the merger of (inaudible) assets and that's negative for them. There have been issues related to other competitors that have significant balance sheet challenges, one big one in U.S. and the other big one in Europe and so there are issues both related to that and we have won designs and people have shown concerns and all that, so yes, that's a very real factor. I think more than ever before, in 30 years of my business, customers historically haven't cared whether their supplier makes money or not. They don't care. Whether your supplier is profitable, they don't care, they just want the best price, best quality. But in the last year or so of the global financial crisis, where so many of their smaller suppliers, not necessarily in semiconductor doing whatever, so many companies have gone out of business that I think it has become a factor where companies are now asking more questions about sustainability and balance sheet and are you profitable and how will you continue to serve me. So first time ever I've seen in 30 years. Doug Freedman – Broadpoint: All right. Great. And thanks for the answers.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Welcome.

Operator

Operator

Next is John Barton with Cowen. John Barton – Cowen: Steve, maybe to follow on to that topic of design activity behavior at the customers. I guess my first question is in a business recovery, how much longer do you think customers focus on that scrutiny of the supply base, how quickly do they forget about the challenges they went through and the balance sheet challenges their suppliers had. And then secondly, in the reorgs that the customers have gone through, letting grow their own engineers, et cetera, have you seen a significant change in design win opportunity, frequency, meaning, guys trying to get new products to market, people trying to make the elder products last and I know historically you've always answered that it depends on the customer, but now that business is starting to stabilize, any new trends there?

Steve Sanghi

Management

I think you kind of answered your own question. We had significant design win activity through our multiyear demand creation efforts and we were so well positioned a year ago. We had done a record in September quarter, and we were quite optimistic about where the business was headed in 16-bit and high end 8-bit and analog and others. And when the global financial crisis hits, that's sort of what happens where all designs freeze, people get laid off and customers don't launch their products into a very, very weak market because that launch will necessarily be wasted. Essentially be wasted. So you're seeing a lot of those designs which were parked for several quarters now proceeding to production. We saw that last quarter. We're seeing that in the current quarter. We are expediting products for a number of these customers, who're taking their designs to production.

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

John, this is Ganesh. If I could add one more perspective. It's not just about are these other competitors financially viable alone. There are impacts of those folks have created on customers, where road maps have been changed, products have an end of life, factories have been closed down, and products been moved causing them to have issues, customer support has been reduced, and lead time has gone out. So there's a number of other factors beyond just financial viability that are playing into customers concerns. John Barton – Cowen: So, I think I could read into your response there that you expect that phenomenon to have a pretty significant length of time, customers aren't going to forget this and have a bias towards Microchip as a result of all the positive support, all the things you just highlighted for at least the next, I don't know, year or two, is that a fair statement?

Steve Sanghi

Management

Yes. Some last a year or two, some last five years and ten years. We have customers that we have served for a decade who we got them in the '99 and 2000 because they couldn't get the parts from somebody and we still have them. So some memories are very long, some memories are short. It's really all over the place. John Barton – Cowen: As you look into the supply chain, and your customer base, obviously, people have to build ahead for Christmas because of cycle times, et cetera. Do you have any sense on how strong of a Christmas the supply chain is preparing for and maybe some form of year-over-year comparison?

Steve Sanghi

Management

I think Christmas builds are done largely. Christmas builds are usually done by the end of September because whatever has to come on the ships has to take a six-week journey to get here before Thanksgiving. And some late products that will fly in the plane and all that are done by October or early part of November. So Christmas builds are largely down. Now, the next phase really is when the parts actually go on the floors and regarding what sells, which model sell, then you get replenishment orders for those designs on which you have to deliver on a fairly short lead time. That's sort of where some of the upsides come from. John Barton – Cowen: Last question if I could. Could you just update us on your thoughts of M&A. Obviously, you've been very clear last couple quarters, tuck-in kind of acquisitions only if they make sense. Has the business starts to stabilize? Does that story change? Any reason to be more aggressive on that front

Steve Sanghi

Management

Well, we don't really have anything on our plate. If you think we should look at something, please let us know. John Barton – Cowen: Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

And next is Gil Alexander with Darphil Associates. Gil Alexander – Darphil Associates: Congratulations. If we look longer-term, can you give us what your guidance is now for operating profits and tax rate?

Eric Bjornholt

Management

So in our calendar '10 plan we provided an operating profit, GAAP, on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis. Gil Alexander – Darphil Associates: Right. That I have. But I was thinking of longer-term. You have a longer term model.

Eric Bjornholt

Management

Our tax rate should stay in the range of 13% on a non-GAAP basis. It's just a bit lower than that on a GAAP basis, driven by some of the things that are taxed differently in the U.S. but it's in that 12.5% to 13.5% range.

Steve Sanghi

Management

On the operating profit, there should be further leverage going into the calendar year '11, mainly on gross margin, could be a little bit on expenses, so certainly we do not peak out by the end of calendar year '10. Gil Alexander – Darphil Associates: That I understand. I thank you.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Welcome.

Operator

Operator

And next is Craig Ellis with Caris and Company. Craig Ellis – Caris and Company: Thank you, and nice job, guys. Steve, I'm wondering if you can share with us some insight from the bottom of model-ish look at 2010. Can you tell, given the design wins that you have, if the growth that you'll be getting on a full-year basis means that you'll be growing every quarter sequentially and is there anything that's notable about the growth, whether you're seeing stronger either first half or second half growth?

Steve Sanghi

Management

Well, I can't break out the quarter but I guess I can confirm to you that we have growth dialed in every quarter. Craig Ellis – Caris and Company: Okay. And then, switching gears on the inventory comments, there's an intent to build backup on an inventory days basis this quarter. Will you be at target inventory levels by the time you exit the calendar fourth quarter or would you expect to be replenishing inventory in the first calendar quarter as well?

Steve Sanghi

Management

I think we'll be replenishing probably still. Our long-term target for the inventory has been 115 days. And our distributors are really holding lower inventory than historically they have or would like them to. In fact, Eric mentioned that our total inventory us plus distributors is a seven years low. So we're trying to rebuild those inventories. We put out lot more product last quarter, but it all shipped out as we had a huge growth. Our original guidance for the quarter was, what, 7% to 11% or something. And we did 17.5% so we were unable to build inventories. In fact, we depleted. We think we have ramped harder and we will grow inventory this quarter, but we do not know whether we will achieve our target, may still be growing at the following quarter. And with the existing inventory being much lower, I wouldn't mind if short-term we're able to get higher than 115 days, that would be positive for our business, especially because of competitive lead times are so long. Craig Ellis – Caris and Company: Is there any particular product area where you want to replenish inventory or is it fairly uniform across your 8, 16 and 32-bit businesses as well as analog?

Steve Sanghi

Management

It's largely uniform. You build it on all volume products where there are high frequency products that ship a lot and you don't tend to build on products that have 1C, 2C customers, and custom or whatever, so you really build on larger part types. Craig Ellis – Caris and Company: Thanks, Steve.

Steve Sanghi

Management

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

Moving on to Kevin Cassidy with Thomas Weisel Partners. Kevin Cassidy – Thomas Weisel Partners: Thanks for taking my question. I was just wondering on the analog growth being so much higher than the microcontroller growth. Is it I guess higher content on microcontroller designs or you're getting into designs where your competitors have the microcontroller and you’re coming in with the analog?

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

Remember there are three components to our analog strategy. First was the attach to our Microcontrollers, second was the attach to any Microcontrollers and the third is to any product on the other side. Doesn't have to be a microcontroller; can be a DSP; can be an FPGA; can be an ASEC, So, all three of those are contributing towards the growth that we're seeing and it's not uniquely driven just by our Microcontrollers only. Kevin Cassidy – Thomas Weisel Partners: Okay, so, do you think, following on with that strategy that having an analog component on a competitor's microcontroller design that you might eventually win the microcontroller?

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

Absolutely. Because that gives us an understanding of the customer, it gives us an opportunity to engage when their design comes up for renewal, gives us an opportunity to provide some alternatives that they can consider, so it is a strength to be able to have an analog win even when we don't have our microcontroller on it. Kevin Cassidy – Thomas Weisel Partners: And you are seeing some success there?

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

Absolutely. Kevin Cassidy – Thomas Weisel Partners: Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Moving on to John Pitzer with Credit Suisse. Shroff – Credit Suisse: This is Shroff [ph] for John Pitzer. Thanks for taking my question. As you mentioned earlier, your 8-bit MCO market share year-to-date in 2009 was higher versus 2008. However, if you look at the quarterly SIA data looks like you undergrew 8-bit MCUs for the second straight quarter in September. Are there any reasons or thoughts behind this or should we not be reading it as such quarterly trends?

Steve Sanghi

Management

What did he say?

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

The quarterly data.

Eric Bjornholt

Management

He thinks on a quarterly basis that we underperformed in 8-bit.

Steve Sanghi

Management

How do you know our 8-bit numbers? We've never broken it out for you so it's again your own estimates, which we haven't confirmed. The SIA data is erratic quarter-to-quarter. So, SIA says 8-bit microcontrollers grew 29% sequentially, okay, and so there are large amount of adjustments that usually go after three months to six months later and the vice old numbers, so SIA numbers you have to look at it over a period of time. The number I gave you was December quarter to September quarter, which I can trust a lot more than I can trust just one quarter data. Which Company have you heard so far that announced results, which will make you believe that 8-bit Microcontrollers grew 29%? Shroff – Credit Suisse: Q Yes, well, that's a fair point.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Makes sense. That's the problem with that data. But if you look at it over the year and after they have revised it and all that the data makes more sense. They maybe low last quarter and up this quarter and so don't take too much stock into SIA's number for a single quarter. There is a special problem that I have seen for decade plus in SIA's numbers on Microcontrollers, which may or may not exist. I think it doesn't exist when you look at microprocessors, you look at flash memories, you look at SBGAs. In micro processors, you look at two companies and you get the number right almost. In SBGAs you look at two or three public companies you might get the number right. But on Microcontrollers, there are 25 competitors and large amount of microcontroller data is Toshiba shipping to Toshiba, Samsung shipping to Samsung, Hitachi, for just to shipping it to their own companies, so I particularly find SIA finds it impossible to get at those numbers, because fair amount of business is really long tail and you can't take two or three companies numbers, plus we're the largest in 8-bit and they don't have our numbers, we're announcing today and we still don't break out 8-bit so how do they get the 8-bit numbers. Atmil [ph] hasn’t announced yet. And they're in the top five or six 8-bit manufacturers. So I take the data with a grain of salt. But longer-term, when I give you the data, I think it's a higher chance of being accurate. Shroff – Credit Suisse: Got it. Thank you.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Welcome.

Operator

Operator

We'll hear once again from Chris Danely. Chris Danely – JPMorgan: Thanks, guys. I'll be brief. I just have two quick follow-ups. So Steve, it sounds like you guys have plenty more room for utilization rates to move up, i.e. gross margins?

Steve Sanghi

Management

Well, correct. Utilization is nowhere close to the old record. Utilization will continue to move up, but when a big portion of the progress in percentage terms and the progress from here is slower, it will happen over the next many quarters. As I said, we don't even reach the peak by the Q4 of calendar year '10. It will continue into calendar year '11. Chris Danely – JPMorgan: Got you. And so if you look at your 2010 guidance and it looks like you guys will be close to the previous peak revenue, but I think you mentioned your gross margins might be a little bit below the previous peak, I think you said mix issues. Can you just talk about the differences and do you feel confident, you'll be able to get back to the previous peak gross margin?

Steve Sanghi

Management

Well, we just don't really know. I think when the business has gone through so much surgery where the gross margins are rising 200 basis points to 300 basis points per quarter as they have done recently, it's very hard to look out six quarters and do an estimate on exactly what mix the products will be and what your utilization would be and what your expense structure would be and so we just haven't done that yet, but there is really no fundamental reason why we should not get reasonably close to our model. Chris Danely – JPMorgan: Got it. Perfect. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Moving on to Ray Rund with Shaker Investments. Ray Rund – Shaker Investments: Thank you for taking my question. You've given so much information already; it's kind of been like trying to drink from a fire hose. I was just curious about – I may have missed these numbers, but can you just specify what your CapEx was in the quarter and what your depreciation was?

Steve Sanghi

Management

Yes. We have it.

Eric Bjornholt

Management

So CapEx was about $6 million in the September quarter and depreciation was $21.7 million. Ray Rund – Shaker Investments: Thank you. Just wanted to add my congratulations. Obviously, you had a really good quarter and looks like you're managing the business for future growth in a very good way, so thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our last question will come from Uche Orji with UBS. Uche Orji – UBS: Thank you very much. Steve, I just wanted to follow up one more time on your 32-bit microcontroller comments relative to ARM. You made a comment that you're gaining share regardless of the fact that – I just wanted to get a sense. When you compete against arm-based controllers, microcontroller companies, what are the differentiating factors? I mean it's quite impressive and congratulations for that, that you're able to continue to do well in the market that arm seems to dominate. So can you just please remind me some of the factors that continue to help you to win here and how much runway that is left in 32-bit? Thank you.

Steve Sanghi

Management

We don't want the competitors listening on this call to know why we win with our PIC32 with what features. Having said that, I can provide you some (inaudible). Uche Orji – UBS: Q. Go on then.

Steve Sanghi

Management

I mean, I don't want to give the exact answer, but we can give you some flavor. Uche Orji – UBS: Okay.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Ganesh Moorthy?

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

I think if you look at what customers buy, they're trying to buy a platform and I think we offer with the PIC platform a range of products with peripheral compatibility, with development tools that are common across 8, 16s and 32s. I mean you've heard all the key reasons from us before, and I think many of those carry through in the PIC32 domain of designs we're competing for as well. But at the end of the day, we obviously provide customers the right combination of value that gives them a choice to use our platform with confidence and to grow with us. Uche Orji – UBS: Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions. Mr. Sanghi, I would like to turn the conference back over to you for closing remarks.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Who was that?

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

Uche, are you still – is the line still open?

Operator

Operator

One moment, sir. We'll open his line.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Okay. Uche Orji – UBS:

Steve Sanghi

Management

I had a question for you, Uche, before you go. What portion of 32-bit Microcontrollers do you believe are arm based in the industry? Uche Orji – UBS: It's hard to say, but if you look at just about everybody else that is in the 32-bit microcontroller, some have their own, some use arm.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Largest fallacy. That's the largest fallacy, which I'm really surprised about, when you talk about misinformation, only 20% of total worldwide 32-bit Microcontrollers are arm based. There are a number of other architectures, which are substantially higher than some of all arm based Microcontrollers. Uche Orji – UBS: Most of these other guys also even while they sell their own microcontroller, based on their own technology, most of them have licensed arm whether has a hedge or just as a way to drive (inaudible) One of the few major companies in the segment that has no done that and I'm just curious as to –

Steve Sanghi

Management

20 years ago, it was the same situation in 8-bit with 8051. Everybody had Intel's architecture 8051. Microchip came with a proprietary architecture with PIC and where is 8051 today and where are we now?

Ganesh Moorthy

Management

Uche, another way to think about it is the core is really a means to an end. The core is not the end. Some how some of the discussions get trapped into this thing as somehow the arm core is the end result. It's just is a delivery mechanism for how you deliver an embedded control solution. If the core was that important, don't you think Microchip would have done a proprietary core for ourselves as opposed to go on with an industry standard core? We picked a core around which we could wrap our proprietary value. Uche Orji – UBS: That's clear. Thank you very much. I think I understand your point.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Thank you, Uche. Operator, anybody else queued in?

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions, sir.

Steve Sanghi

Management

Okay, we want to thank all our investors and analysts on this call. It's been a great quarter and we look forward to seeing many of you on the road. I think there are some conferences coming up. We'll be at the next conferences, CSFB conference, which is actually in our backyard here in Scottsdale, in early December, so we'll see many of you there. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

This does conclude our conference call today. We would like to thank you for your participation.