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Malibu Boats, Inc. (MBUU)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, May 8, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Malibu Boats conference call to discuss Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we'll conduct the question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. Please be advised that reproduction of this call in whole or in part is not permitted without written authorization of Malibu Boats. And as a reminder, today's call is being recorded. On the call today from management are Mr. Steve Menneto, Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Bruce Beckman, Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Beckman to get it started. Please go ahead, sir.

Bruce Beckman

Management

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Joining me on today's call is our CEO, Steve Menneto. On the call, Steve will provide commentary on the business, and I will discuss our third quarter of fiscal year 2025 financials. We will then open up the call for questions. A press release covering the company's fiscal third quarter 2025 results was issued today, and a copy of that press release can be found in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. I also want to remind everyone that management's remarks on this call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates or other information that might be considered forward-looking and that actual results could differ materially from those projected on today's call. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of today, and the company undertakes no obligation to update them for any new information or future events. Factors that might affect future results are discussed in our filings with the SEC, and we encourage you to review these filings for a more detailed description of these risk factors. Please also note that we will be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures on today's call, such as adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted fully distributed net income and adjusted fully distributed net income per share. Reconciliations of these GAAP financial measures to non-GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release. Finally, during today's prepared remarks, comparisons are to Q3 of fiscal 2024, unless otherwise noted. I will now turn the call over to Steve.

Steve Menneto

Management

Thank you, Bruce, and thank you all for joining today's call. Our results this quarter demonstrate solid execution in an environment that remains challenging. Both Q3 sales and adjusted EBITDA margins finished above our guidance expectations for the quarter. We are successfully navigating continued industry softness. Our premium brands and feature-rich offerings continue to resonate with customers as evidenced by our mix-driven ASP increases in all segments. And as expected, we returned to growth in the third quarter, both sequentially and versus the prior year. It is worth remembering that we were among the first in the industry to reduce our production levels in response to the elevated dealer inventories. As a result, year-over-year comparison in the second half are less challenging than they were in the first half. Turning first to the selling season. Our overall dealer inventories entering the season are healthy, aligned with historical levels and well below where they were a year ago. The retail environment remains challenging as elevated interest rates and ongoing macro uncertainty continue to weigh heavily on the consumer sentiment and discretionary spending, prompting buyers to be more cautious and deliberate in their purchase decisions. We remain actively engaged with our dealer network, continuously calibrating our strategies to closely align production levels with real-time retail dynamics. And we are committed to ensuring dealer inventories remain healthy and appropriately balanced. While our overall boat show performance was mixed, we observed pockets of strength, notably with our Pursuit brand. We also remain incredibly proud that our Pursuit once again received the prestigious Marine Industry Customer Satisfaction Award from NMMA, underscoring our ongoing commitment to delivering exceptional customer experiences. Additionally, our Cobalt brand keeps delivering impressive results. We continue to see persistent demand from cash buyers who appreciate our premium feature-rich boats. Supported by our…

Bruce Beckman

Management

Thanks, Steve. As mentioned earlier, we returned to growth during the third quarter with results above our expectations. Net sales increased 12.4% to $228.7 million, and unit volume increased 12.8% to 1,431 units. The increase in net sales was driven primarily by increased unit volumes in the Malibu segment, a favorable model mix across all segments and inflation-driven year-over-year price increases, which were partially offset by decreased unit volumes in the Cobalt and Saltwater Fishing segments and an unfavorable segment mix. The Malibu and Axis brands represented approximately 52% of unit sales, Saltwater Fishing represented 22.8% and Cobalt made up the remaining 25.2%. Consolidated net sales per unit decreased 0.3% to $159,792 per unit, primarily driven by an unfavorable segment mix, partially offset by a favorable model mix in all segments and inflation-driven year-over-year price increases. Gross profit increased 13.4% to $45.7 million, and gross margin as a percentage of sales increased 20 basis points to 20.0%. The increased gross margin was driven primarily by fixed cost leveraging and strong operational performance at our factories. Selling and marketing expenses increased 4.3%. The increase was driven primarily by higher event marketing activities. As a percentage of sales, selling and marketing expenses decreased by 20 basis points to 3.0%. General and administrative expenses increased 6.7% or $1.2 million. The increase was driven primarily by legal and professional fees. As a percentage of sales, G&A expenses were 8.7%. This represents a significant sequential improvement with expenses normalizing as expected. Q3 GAAP net income increased 119.4% to $13.2 million. Q3 adjusted EBITDA increased 16.0% to $28.3 million, and Q3 adjusted EBITDA margin increased 40 basis points to 12.4%. Non-GAAP adjusted fully distributed net income per share increased 14.3% to $0.72 per share. This is calculated using a normalized C corp tax rate of 24.5%…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Craig Kennison from Baird.

Craig Kennison

Analyst

I wanted to start with inventory. What would the goal be by the end of June with respect to dealer inventory and maybe relative to last June?

Bruce Beckman

Management

Yes. Well, dealer inventories typically come down quite a bit as we get through the selling season, typically in the -- at the end of Q4, where in the 20 to 25 weeks typically is -- where we would typically be. We are expecting to bring our dealer inventories down this year in the mid-teens percent. That's been a consistent goal for us throughout the entire year. We started talking about that at the very beginning of the fiscal year. And we would -- that will put us below where we were last year, certainly. And the dealers are telling us that's where they want to take it. They want to take their inventories below historical levels. They're also looking at the same macroeconomic uncertainty that we're looking at.

Craig Kennison

Analyst

I appreciate that. And then with respect to, I guess, the Malibu customer or the customer of your boats, do you have any insights into the behavior of that customer? How is the repeat buyer doing? How are your first-time buyers doing? I'm just looking for a profile of who's in the market today and how that has changed.

Steve Menneto

Management

Yes. Craig, there -- we're seeing retail kind of as what we expected. As you see the ramp, we're seeing some of the repeat buyers returning to the marketplace, particularly the cash repeat buyers, right? New buyers are still a small percentage of our overall retail. We've seen the normal seasonality ramp as you would expect. But as Bruce said, with the economic uncertainty, we haven't seen it come back in full force like as expectations were couple of quarters ago.

Bruce Beckman

Management

Yes. If I may add, too, Craig. I mean we have -- we continue to look at the data around percent of our sales that are going to first-time buyers, and we've seen that kind of hold pretty steady over time. There was questions I think, would that drop after we exited the COVID period, and we just haven't seen that. So that's been a positive.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Eric Wold from Texas Capital Securities.

Eric Wold

Analyst

I guess, first off, you noted that, obviously, the boat show season was mixed, something you kind of said in the past. So I guess now that we're kind of firmly past it, what are you seeing with the competitor promotional activity, especially with those brands that you feel may not be in the best inventory position? And given kind of the state of the consumer, how much are you willing to kind of chase deals against someone that's maybe overly competitive versus maybe letting some of these deals go?

Steve Menneto

Management

I think 2 respects there. One is we've been really, as we stated earlier, helped by our new products. I mean when you look at some of the new product innovations that were launched and some of the new products, those continue to do really well in the marketplace, gaining share, and we don't have to support those as strongly in the promo environment. For ours, we've been pretty consistent in our promo execution, and we're going to continue to do that and work with our dealers to make sure that we're competitive in the marketplace, but we haven't had to do anything elevated to be in our strong position.

Bruce Beckman

Management

Yes. I would just echo that, that our promotional levels have been pretty consistent year-to-date with where we were last year. And we'd expect them actually to be much less in our fourth quarter of this year than they certainly were a year ago because a year ago, we were focused on getting our dealer inventories down. So I think in the overall market, you've seen various competitors address their inventory challenges and to a certain extent, that's going to play out the way it's going to play out. You can't chase all of those deals. But we expect that the promotional environment will remain competitive, but will moderate as the industry kind of works through its challenges.

Eric Wold

Analyst

Got it. And then just last question, kind of on the follow-up on the previous question on the inventories and kind of, you mentioned that your dealers are kind of comfortable with inventories being kind of where you want to place them and below last year. Any group of your dealers that you feel are maybe in a tough position, maybe struggling a little bit out there? Anyones that you're worried about or you think is the health pretty good across the board?

Steve Menneto

Management

Pretty good across the board. We monitor every brand in all the different regions of the country and so forth, and I think everybody is in pretty good shape and pretty consistent.

Bruce Beckman

Management

The other thing we're always doing, Eric, is monitoring the overall health of the dealer network, and the dealer network from just an overall standpoint is pretty healthy. And we are always in conversations with the floor plan finance providers and checking on that and are pretty happy with where the dealers are right now, particularly given the challenging market.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Michael Swartz from Truist.

Michael Swartz

Analyst

Maybe to start just on the tariff side, I know that you have said that you don't expect any material impact in fiscal year '25, which ends in a couple of months. But as we look out further afield, I mean, is there any way to think about your tariff risk? I don't know if you have much direct exposure from international sourcing. But any way, any parameters you could give us on how to think about that as we think about fiscal year '26 and beyond?

Steve Menneto

Management

Well, tariffs in general, Michael, we're -- like you said, the direct exposure is -- we're managing every day. We're looking at what's changing. We're trying to make sure that we try to understand what the impacts are, clearly. But really, what we're working on internally is how do we take those mitigation opportunities with either reshoring, buying ahead, all the different steps that you would take, and we have a team focused on that.

Bruce Beckman

Management

Yes. From a quantification standpoint, we source about 18% to 20% of our cost of sales from outside the U.S., which relative to others in the industry, I think, is less than the overall industry, but there certainly is some exposure there.

Michael Swartz

Analyst

And are there any singular large sources within that 18% to 20%?

Bruce Beckman

Management

No. I mean I think it's distributed across a number of different categories. Some of them being pretty obvious, like outboard engines and then there are others that are maybe less obvious hinges and latches and electronics, those -- of that nature.

Michael Swartz

Analyst

Okay. Okay. That's super helpful. And then as we think about model year '26, and I don't expect you to give me your pricing numbers, but any sense of where you think maybe the industry is coming in based on your conversations with suppliers? Any -- and I guess, are you or anyone you're aware of moving model year '26 ahead by a month or 2?

Steve Menneto

Management

No, we're not aware of anybody moving model year '26 ahead by a month or 2. And no, we have not really seen anybody in the industry make a move in pricing yet. All of us, I think, are kind of wait and see what are the impacts and how we're going to deal with them. So we still have Q4 to kind of figure that out.

Bruce Beckman

Management

Yes. I would just say that I think it's probably a normal inflation environment, and this is an industry that passes along cost increases. So I would expect, absent the tariff topic, that it would be a pretty normal year.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Noah Zatzkin from KeyBanc.

Ryan Williams

Analyst

This is Ryan Williams on for Noah Zatzkin. Maybe the first one, it would just be helpful to hear kind of any additional color on how demand trended in the quarter. And then if there were kind of any meaningful step changes in April as well.

Steve Menneto

Management

No. I think, Ryan, we said the demand in the quarter kind of added the seasonal ramp as you would expect, but did not have that robust punch that we were kind of hoping for a few quarters ago. So we say it's kind of the mixed results. It keeps kind of chugging along, and we're -- we see the same thing in April. New products are doing well, and we're fortunate that we have quite a few new products in the marketplace.

Ryan Williams

Analyst

Okay. That's really helpful. And maybe just another on -- I know we're in a fluid environment. And if things were to deteriorate, how are you thinking about kind of what cost levers are available in the business?

Bruce Beckman

Management

Well, I mean, we talk a lot about the highly variable nature of our cost structure, and we would definitely be relying on that. If we were to see a further downturn, our cost structure is 80% to 90% variable above the gross margin line. And then, of course, we would look for opportunities to free up cash from the balance sheet as well to manage any downturn just like we've done previously. So we have a very resilient business model. We generate cash in all kinds of environments, and we have a very strong balance sheet. So we feel as good as you can feel coming into what continues to be a challenging market environment.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Mike Albanese from Benchmark.

Michael Albanese

Analyst

I think last quarter, you had called out some additional weakness maybe forming in the saltwater segment. Could you just comment on what you're seeing in that market specifically? Or any changes to, I guess, consumer behavior that kind of happened throughout the quarter?

Bruce Beckman

Management

Yes. We saw an improvement, I would say, in the Saltwater segment, particularly in Florida. I think in the last call, we talked about Florida being down around 20% in the second quarter. We saw that improve in the third quarter. We didn't see it bounce back to growth. I think it just kind of went back to the kind of the overall trend in the market. So some improvement, but not a different trajectory entirely.

Michael Albanese

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. So I mean, just really last quarter, I know you had called out Florida. I mean safe to kind of say, as you're looking at it through this quarter here, you kind of got a return from that and kind of back to that normal trend, if you will, that you were thinking, well, maybe 2 quarters ago.

Bruce Beckman

Management

Yes.

Steve Menneto

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

And the next question comes from Jaime Katz from Morningstar.

Jaime Katz

Analyst

I just wanted to ask about the upcoming quarter. It looks like the third quarter was a little better than we expected and then you have adjusted EBITDA pushed down a little bit. So can you talk a little bit about what has changed since your last update in that cost structure that is just leading to that pressure?

Bruce Beckman

Management

Well, it's really the units. I mean, we've taken our expectations for units down because we've changed our view on the market. If you remember previously, we were saying that we were expecting to see a little bit of improvement in the market in the second half of the year from what trend we were experiencing in the first half of the year. And as we've kind of seen the market play out through the third quarter, and then given what our dealers are telling us and just the general macroeconomic uncertainty, we're no longer expecting an improvement in the market. So therefore, we had to make an adjustment from our prior expectations in production levels and therefore, it impacts our overall financial projections for the year and for the quarter.

Jaime Katz

Analyst

Sure. And then as you think about capital allocation and share repurchases in the quarter ahead or the next fiscal year, if the environment stays this way, does it make more sense to have dry powder on the balance sheet just to navigate the environment? Or given the depressed level of shares, do you think it's maybe more prudent to continue down that share repurchase cycle that you've been on?

Bruce Beckman

Management

So what I would say just generally, we remain committed to our capital allocation priorities. And -- but we may have to modify our tactics from time to time just given the realities of the market. So I think that's what was behind the comments that I made in my prepared remarks that we're going to be modifying our level of share repurchases here in Q4. And then we still expect that we will be looking at share repurchases as part of our overall capital allocation strategy moving forward. And we're obviously looking to maximize shareholder value through the execution of those priorities.

Operator

Operator

I'm not showing any further questions at this time. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.